Hot Potato Mafia - Game Over

[Rally Vincent]

/confirm.

/confirm
Also, I'm not a Cult Recruiter, yay!

That's what all cult recruiters say...

[Rally Vincent]

everything's a song reference. why say anything? you'll get it sung for you sooner or later.

Even this game is... because someone's Riggin' Our Potatoes.

[Rally Vincent]

Also, even if we all think Player X is scum, how do we force him to keep the potato?

Through sheer willpower...?

If there's a way to find out what triggers the explosion, this is our way to kill scum. One potato must have a time-related trigger, so by just not tossing them around, we could see which... unless there's a potato that explodes if not being tossed around for X posts.

[Rally Vincent]

Since we're already tossing the potatoes, we should circulate them as fast as we can on Day 1. If scum doesn't know the triggers as well, they'll avoid tossing the potatoes to their buddies. The tossing pattern of scum will be interesting, if at last one of 'em is caught in an explosion.

fake vote: Rally Vincent

Hands up, who knew he's even in the game?

Just because everyone's ignoring me does not mean I... hey, wait. Hello...?

[Rally Vincent]

I shall stick to my own suggestion.

Hurling the potato over to Riceballtail

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[Rally Vincent]

If Russet Potato is triggered by # of tosses, the magic number is eight (not counting the original toss to the first holder).

Russet Potato:
Porochaz --> M4ahem --> Luigi Gangsta --> DarlaBlueEyes --> DGB --> Rally Vincent --> Riceballtail --> q21 -->

Skruffs

[Rally Vincent]

Oh snap.

If it's page numbers, he died on page twelve

There won't be a page again, but... Potatoes were originally passed on page 3, so it could be a toss on page

>

9 after origin.

[Rally Vincent]

Oh snap.

If it's page numbers, he died on page twelve

There won't be a page twelve again, but... Potatoes were originally passed on page 3, so it could be a toss on page

>

9 after origin.

Fixed BWOP.

[Rally Vincent]

How about we stop speculating about what caused Skruffs' death and start more speculation on who is scum?

Both are connected. If we know a trigger, then the one triggering a potato on a townie has some explanation to do. Triggering a potato by choice is one of the scumtells that we're looking for.

[Rally Vincent]

What if we kill anybody who gets a townie killed? In other words, we throw to the person who threw to Scruffs (q21), then if he turns out innocent, we kill the next person who kills a townie.

Don't like that idea. We (probably) know the trigger for Russet potato. If we get another, we'll finally have a working weapon. The more triggers we know, the more likely we can direct them at scum - and we can choose our suspects by voting. Then there'll be no need for random tossing.

So right now we need to identify the triggers, and we should make plans how to do so.

[Rally Vincent]

How about we stop speculating about what caused Skruffs' death and start more speculation on who is scum?

Both are connected. If we know a trigger, then the one triggering a potato on a townie has some explanation to do. Triggering a potato by choice is one of the scumtells that we're looking for.

But there's nothing that says the potatoes will be the same every day, or that the triggers will be every day.

So, again, the speculation is pointless.

We will see that if we get another Russet Potato. They have a name for a reason, until I see otherwise, I think we can assume that the triggers don't differ. Otherwise, this game would just be a bucket of randomness.

[Rally Vincent]

What i dont understand is the bit in italics. Can you please explain?

BM

Sure. If someone blows off a potato with a known or at least assumed trigger on purpose, he'd better have a good reason.

[Rally Vincent]

...Q21 is probably town in my eyes anyway.

How so, BM???

He blatantly and openly declared war on Skruffs. Regardless of whether he knew it would kill him, he brought himself right out into the open- something i could not see him doing as scum in a game like this.

BM

Wouldn't it be exactly what scum would dare to do in a game like this? Because, you know... we cannot punish behaviour like this on the spot. [/i]

[Rally Vincent]

But there's nothing that says the potatoes will be the same every day, or that the triggers will be every day.

So, again, the speculation is pointless.

So, what's your plan then? Sit and wait?

[Rally Vincent]

I didn't say that. What I did say is that we should be wary of any plan that involves tossing explosives to people hoping to blow those particular people up--- as I said before, we're also possibly throwing them a weapon.

Nevermind the fact that if you throw the potatoes to the scummiest candidate, what happens if they don't explode on him? Is he expected to keep them in his hands for all of eternity? Naturally, scum or town, he's not going to just hold them and say, "Well, guess it's my time!" He's gonna throw it at someone.

For example, I think we're on a good track keeping track of who throws what to who--- scum won't be likely to risk killing off their partners, for instance. Once we know more of the triggers, this may even get easier.

First you're telling us that we shouldn't throw the potatoes because they may not explode and it could mean handing scum over a weapon. It's just that there won't be a throwing pattern if nobody throws the potatoes. You're telling us that we need to make better plans, but that's about all. Again - what is a

better

plan then the things we had in mind until now? Besides townies holding on to the potatoes until one of them blows up?

[Rally Vincent]

I see less votes on me then either TSS or Kuribo.

Because the people who agree with me are probably the "fakevoting is pointless" crowd.

fakevote: kuribo

Just so nobody puts me in your "agreeing" crowd.

[Rally Vincent]

I see less votes on me then either TSS or Kuribo.

Because the people who agree with me are probably the "fakevoting is pointless" crowd.

fakevote: kuribo

Just so nobody puts me in your "agreeing" crowd.

And disagreement is a legitimate reason to vote (even if the vote is fake)? Yays!

No, the reason is that kuribo is scum. All he did before TSS made his case was "(But) Suppose this, (but) suppose that; we'll only give scum a weapon". Criticism without any input.

[Rally Vincent]

In my irrelevant opinion, criticism can be just as valuable input as any other comment.

It can - but it wasn't. First, he just said things that were totally obvious, and second, if we followed him, we'd just had hold the potatoes and done nothing. It's not like he came up with a better plan up to that point - or any plan.

[Rally Vincent]

In my irrelevant opinion, criticism can be just as valuable input as any other comment.

It can - but it wasn't. First, he just said things that were totally obvious, and second, if we followed him, we'd just had hold the potatoes and done nothing. It's not like he came up with a better plan

up to that point

- or any plan.

Please pay attention to the game. My thought was that analyzing WHO THROWS POTATOES AND WHERE will get us MUCH further than pretending that this is a normal game of mafia and insisting that the lead vote getters hold on to potatoes or meekly allow their own lynch.

Please stick to your own advice. For your convenience, I bolded the part which I refer to. You had constructive input

after

TSS accused you.

Before

that point, you were just against anything. That is why I think you are scum - not because you oppose fakevoting.

[Rally Vincent]

Well, that makes me feel pretty good about kuribo. (Yeah, yeah, WIFOM, whatever)

Why's that?

[Rally Vincent]

We should be careful with the Baked Russet Potato... will a "baked" (compared with a not "baked") Russet Potato hold out longer or shorter?

[Rally Vincent]

...

Where'd the Yam go!?

Baked Russet Potato went off after one (!) throw. It must have been the Yam that triggered it, considering that even the Insatnt Potato took two throws to explode.

[Rally Vincent]

I kill 1 person and my self. The hook is I need to be holding a potato to do it.

And how do you do that?

Well, he already did it - without the "dying himself" part.

[Rally Vincent]

Well, whether he's telling the truth or scum, it works, right?

I'm losing some interest in this game, so I can't remember who's scummy. I need to reread before I vote.

How about DBE or DGB? Didn't hear much from them lately...

[Rally Vincent]

Are you going to throw the potato to RBT if DBE stays alive?

[Rally Vincent]

Bake:Potato

I can't contain my curiousity anymore. I'd better claim; I'm a potato baker. Baking potatos changes their trigger somehow; I don't know any more than that.

RiceTailBall- If I give you this potato, who will you pass it to and why?

Why are you baking the potato whose trigger we know? Seriously, what are you expecting from this? Besides robbing the town of an effective weapon, I mean?

[Rally Vincent]

M$yhem -

If the same laws as yesterday hold true the baked Russet will kill with a single throw. Even though all potatoes that go RBT's seem to hit me next, please throw it to RBT.

If you state that you won't throw to RBT, or if he survives it I will throw my Potato at him.

TSS held a yam when he blew up with the BAked Russet. We don't know if that afeected the Baked Russet, but it's very likely it did.

[Rally Vincent]

Throw whatever potato I have to kuribo

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[Rally Vincent]

Potato potato, where art thou?
Goin' back to kuribo.

[Rally Vincent]

6 throws of the yellow now.

Is there any chance of getting some reasoning with those votes?

I already explained my reasoning for going after Rally:

For starters, I don't like his opportunism in going after me when my sig stated I was away.

I don't read sigs, and I went after you because you're scum. If you remember, I said that on Day one. "Adjusting" facts to your liking (read: making others believe your "away time" being the reason for the throw) is adding to your scummyness.

Throw baked yellow potato to kuribo.

Throw blue potato to RBT.

If you don't want it, put it in the trash.

[Rally Vincent]

Throw blue potato to RBT.

[Rally Vincent]

I don't buy that you didn't see my sig.

And I don't buy that you aren't scum.

Bottle-mail baked yellow potato over to kuribo.

Why hello there, Riceballtail,
there's blue potato in the mail.

Deflect blue potato to RBT.

[Rally Vincent]

This is getting ridiculous...

After receiving a call from the emergency room, donating the baked yellow potato to kuribo for his vital potato transplant.

Tipping RBT with the blue potato on account of poor service.

[Rally Vincent]

11 throws. If current trends continue, I believe kuribo will be dead in four throws.

No, he won't. He'll throw it to one of his scumbuddies on the 14th throw to get me killed on throw 15. His reasoning will of course be that he doesn't give it to me on throw 14 because he tells people I am scum...

[Rally Vincent]

This is getting ridiculous...

After receiving a call from the emergency room, donating the baked yellow potato to kuribo for his vital potato transplant.

Tipping RBT with the blue potato on account of poor service.

I never did like blanket statements. You've yet to give a reason that you think I'm scum, simply stating "you're scum."

Wrap Baked Yellow Potato in a blanket and stick it in the back of Rally Vincent's pants

My reasons haven't changed.

Fed-Ex baked yellow potato to kuribo.

[Rally Vincent]

Riceballtail and Luigi Gangsta are kuribo's scum partners. This should be obvious to anyone with eyes.

TSS was two-thirds right. I'm interested in testing the third part.

So am I.

Throw blue potato to RBT.

But there must be more scum, considering the number of players. Possible candidate on my list is DGB - or Wizardcat, who hasn't posted here since Aug 14!

[Rally Vincent]

So am I.

Throw blue potato to RBT.

Just so the mods don't get a rage attack - RBT threw the blue potato to one post before (#883) the kuribo-explosion post, so I think I had it.

[Rally Vincent]

I wonder if Wizardcat picked up the prod?

[Rally Vincent]