Mini 622 - Mind Screw Mafia - Das ist alles!
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"Captain, if I were you, I'd quit while I was ahead. Back on Minbar, there was a saying among the other Rangers: 'The only way to get a straight answer out of Ranger One was to look at every reply in a mirror while hanging upside down from the ceiling.'"
The Twentieth Vote Count (aka the "Less Talking, More Voting, or Fail the Deadline Review" Vote Count):
Vote Count:
Battousai (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Not Voting (9): Battousai, remussaidow, MafiaSSK, Musher333, Macavenger, Cavebear with a toothache, Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2
Votes required to lynch: 6
FoS Count:
Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Current Deadline:July 18, 2008
Next Mod Deadline Review:July 11, 2008User out of ambit.
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Battousai Mafia Scum
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Typically, on D2 I would look over the posts of the person who was killed and see who would target them. But in this case the person who was probably supposed to be dead is alive, and everyone who would target them is already dead. So I think Yos was picked because he seemed the most protown (against roleclaims and the likes). That's the only thing I see from that.
Iamausername: What do you mean rule 29 would verify you?-
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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Well, if it later appears, it will demonstrate that I have the ability that I say I have. It's probably not an ability that has any inherent townliness, so it's not a particularly useful verification, but it's something.Battousai wrote:Iamausername: What do you mean rule 29 would verify you?Elapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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Battousai Mafia Scum
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Ok, just wanted to make sure you didn't say this to prove your towniness (and to help pass the mod review ).
Tar: Is it against the rules to state your character name?
Role name is the one and only part of the role PM that may be directly quoted. - Tar
If not, then I think we should have a mass name claim. Now I know some of you have stated that you don't like it, but I feel it could help us later rather than help the scum. If your against it, state your reason why and if your for it just say you are (majority yes then I say we do it, and vice versa.)-
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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I'm against the idea of a mass name claim, because I don't think there's likely to be an obvious link between role name and alignment, so it doesn't seem like we'd gain anything, and scum might be able to make educated guesses about which role names would be most likely attached to a power role that's particularly dangerous to them. Can't see how it would help the town.Elapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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Cavebear with a toothache Goon
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I agree with Macavenger that the attempted murder of Yosarian2 makes him look more town. Unless of course he's the SK and knew of the redirection rule. For now, I'll work with the theory that requires the least complications (Occam's razor; Yosarian2 was targeted because someone wanted him dead). Occam's razor might not work very well in this particular game, but it'll do for now.
It would seem apparent that Jenter's mafia group tried to kill him without knowing the redirection rule, though. At least until there's reason to think there's a redirector somewhere.
Rule 29 is interesting. I don't have any reason to doubt iamausername for now (no reason to trust him either, mind you, apart from that it would be silly for him to fake that). I'm guessing there's either someone who can activate new rules, or that there are certain things in the game that leads to new rules being activated.
I'm against a mass name claim. I agree with iamausername's points, and I don't see what good it would make. I don't see myself voting anyone simply because of their name anyway, especially not in a setup like this.
I think we should vote more. Not necessarily lynch anyone, but vote.Tarhalindur wrote:The Twentieth Vote Count (aka the "Less Talking, More Voting, or Fail the Deadline Review" Vote Count)
Vote: MafiaSSK(Battousai). This is a "It's apparently good to vote, so I'm voting you. Why are you so anxious to get everyone to mass claim, anyway?" vote.-
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Macavenger Goon
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This really doesn't make much sense. As best we can tell, Yos was targeted by two killing roles. That rather definitively makes someone who would target him alive, even ignoring the fact that Jenter almost certainly had buddies. Further, how is your stance that he was picked because he looked the most town consistent with your earlier adamant belief that we shouldn't consider him likely town because he was targeted?Battousai wrote:Typically, on D2 I would look over the posts of the person who was killed and see who would target them. But in this case the person who was probably supposed to be dead is alive, and everyone who would target them is already dead. So I think Yos was picked because he seemed the most protown (against roleclaims and the likes). That's the only thing I see from that.
I'm also against the mass name claim, because chances are that it would be far more likely to help scum find dangerous powers than help the town determine scum. This is doubly true with the town namecop dead.
Vote: MafiaSSK(Battousai) for the moment."By far the towniest player in the game. Very good scum hunting, doesn't let anyone off the hook. All in all I find Mac's posts insightful and thought-provoking. " - Vel-Rahn Koon-
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vote: mafiaSSK(batt)
I'm against the mass claim because scum could have fake claims, and then that leaves the scum with far far more info than the town. That's just not really terribly sensible, and it seems to me like you might be trying to dig for info, especially seeing as Jenter's role had a little bit of game flavor in it- as someone pointed out that the rules to the game that he was from were to be kept hidden, and poof, now that he's dead, no longer hidden.Now, life is civilized. Once there was a city, barbaric in its ways. Yet, they were an empire. But even before that, they were two brothers. They fought. Remus said ow, and it all began.-
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"This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays.'"
The Twenty-First Vote Count (aka the "Submarine Aircraft Carrier. How Very Japanese." Vote Count):
Vote Count:
Battousai (3)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1) - Cavebear with a toothache, Macavenger, remussaidow
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Not Voting (6): Battousai, MafiaSSK, Musher333, Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2
Votes required to lynch: 6
FoS Count:
Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Current Deadline:July 18, 2008
Next Mod Deadline Review:July 11, 2008User out of ambit.
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Tarhalindur Mod Screw
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"... and you seemed like an honest man..."
Twenty-four hours with no non-Mod posts = very unhappy Mod. Expect your deadline to be a short one. Also, Musher333 has been prodded.
The Twenty-First Vote Count (aka the "Window of Opportunity" Vote Count):
Vote Count:
Battousai (3)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1) - Cavebear with a toothache, Macavenger, remussaidow
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Not Voting (6): Battousai, MafiaSSK, Musher333, Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2
Votes required to lynch: 6
FoS Count:
Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Current Deadline:July 18, 2008
Next Mod Deadline Review:July 11, 2008User out of ambit.
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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Jex Goon
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I'm not claiming a power role at all. I simply asked if anything happened because I have no idea what my role does. At this point I have no idea if the action was caused by me or someone else and I don't want anyone to say if they targeted him because i don't want to out anyone. My role is the most confusing thing I've ever read in a game of mafia and I'm trying to start making sense of it if I can.Yosarian2 wrote:Why do we have Jex and Nocmen claiming power roles here?"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that don't have the brains enough to be honest." ~ Benjamin Franklin-
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Macavenger Goon
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Interesting, I didn't have any problem understanding my role. I wasn't under the impression that the roles were particularly confusing, rather the rest of the game; did I just get lucky there?"By far the towniest player in the game. Very good scum hunting, doesn't let anyone off the hook. All in all I find Mac's posts insightful and thought-provoking. " - Vel-Rahn Koon-
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remussaidow Goon
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I'm gonna with not necessarily confusing, but def not normal. And that made things a bit difficult to understand.Now, life is civilized. Once there was a city, barbaric in its ways. Yet, they were an empire. But even before that, they were two brothers. They fought. Remus said ow, and it all began.-
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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Macavenger Goon
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