Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Dannflor]

Current top scumread is PB

Why?

The case on him looked solid, his response looked too well timed, and the drop of pressure on him didn’t seem natural.

Who did the case on him? I didn't read most of yesterday.

These are all reasons outside of his actual play. What about his play do you find scummy?

Menalque. And do you want me to summarize the case or write my own thoughts?

I want to hear it from you, either what part of the case stood out to you or what part of PB's play has

just saying "the case on him was good" kind of shifts responsibility for the read to Menalque

[Alisae]

Wooper Icon was being voted by Ceph and Dann D6
MariaR was voting Dann
Gamma and Icon were voting Fire

[Gamma Emerald]

You tried this shit in V’s variety hour and I didn’t give a single fuck and my read never changed.
Want to contribute to the thread?
Post funny pictures and gifs.

No I am not “trying the same thing”. I’m not trying to get you to plain change your mind, I am trying to get you to rethink things. If after that you still think the way you do now then whatever. You act like you’re so right when one of your scumreads JUST FLIPPED TOWN. WAKE THE FUCK UP!

[Alisae]

Also wooper, we already established that scum was super okay with bussing LLD.
MariaR, Krazy, Dann, GE, all voters on that wagon (from memory)
Why would Icon decide to defend LLD. He’s the odd-man out in this situation.

I think it's rare a scum team all takes the exact same stance. Unless the situation really calls for, generally a scum team that large can have players all over the different sides of a wagon/issue.

You are also scum

Fucking stop this shit. It’s not helping.
And I wouldn’t mind your reads as much, if you would show that they actually are thought out. You don’t need to read the whole damn game back over but please don’t just jump off a cliff here.

Lol dude can you just lolcat already?

Let me ask you this: what do you think is more likely, strictly by probability? You actually did catch the entire team and I’m trying to damage control, or you’re wrong somewhere, and I’m trying to fix that?

no one asked you to do damage control

[Alisae]

I’m not trying to get you to plain change your mind, I am trying to get you to rethink things. If after that you still think the way you do now then whatever. You act like you’re so right when one of your scumreads JUST FLIPPED TOWN. WAKE THE FUCK UP!

Excuse me what

[Dannflor]

and the drop of pressure on him didn’t seem natural.

also going back to look, the only one pushing PB seemed to be Mena??

What about the switch away from PB looking unnatural? And what does that even mean? Like do you think Mena and PB are partners?

why would this be scum indicative

[Wooper]

Also wooper, we already established that scum was super okay with bussing LLD.
MariaR, Krazy, Dann, GE, all voters on that wagon (from memory)
Why would Icon decide to defend LLD. He’s the odd-man out in this situation.

PP wasn't onwagon
I don't think it's clearing; d1 scum directive clearly wasn't "DROP A NUKE ON OUT TEAMMATE THE STRONGEST SCUM PLAYER ONSITE WHO HAS A STRONG SCUM POWER ROLE"

I'd rather talk about the way he defended and spoke to her and ignored when he was called to reconsider his read on her rn. I think it was a fake read; don't think I can guess the exact scum plan of attack to d1 but I know to lynch a phoney read on flipped scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Now I’m gonna have to go soon so don’t fuck the game up ffs

[Alisae]

Go to bed Ali.

trying its hard to turn my ipad off

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I don’t want to shit on the IC but it’s damn clear e’s not playing the game to win. I feel like Ciera Easton in Survivor Second Chances rn

Alright let's put it this way.
How many slots are in the game?
How many slots do you have control over?
Is Alisae that one slot?
No.

Shitting on em for not having a perfect solve when you're POE scum for doing sweet fuck all isn't a pot/kettle situation. it's either shamefully disrespecting the effort Ali is putting into the game, or it's scum manipulation (which is admirable, but truly shockingly bad play here).

If you're not happy with the gamestate, you have the power to fix it. And you fix it by being productive and playing to your wincon. Not by shitting on other people for playing to theirs.

duckie OUT *drops mic*

dude he’s desperate and he’s scum stop engaging with him

[Gamma Emerald]

and the drop of pressure on him didn’t seem natural.

also going back to look, the only one pushing PB seemed to be Mena??

What about the switch away from PB looking unnatural? And what does that even mean? Like do you think Mena and PB are partners?

why would this be scum indicative

Yes I do think Mena and PB are partners. It looks completely choreographed.

[Dannflor]

Now I’m gonna have to go soon so don’t fuck the game up ffs

yo next time you're in here please do something that's not whining at Ali thank you

I feel like getting content out of you here is like pulling teeth

[Alisae]

Now I’m gonna have to go soon so don’t fuck the game up ffs

when did you start caring?
You haven’t cared since D1.
D4 you just gave your vote to pine and whatever, and since ur not actually doing anything.

Ur scum dude

[Something_Smart]

Ali I'll sheep whatever you want tomorrow but only if you go to bed right now.

[Wooper]

The one point for town!Ico here is that his presence was so low that I can't believe he actually thought he'd have any sort of affect on the LLD wagon. Striking out on his own is ballsy.

it's a point. I considered the vote somewhat towny on reread until I realised he vanitywagonsits Chenn who he cased in extremely bad faith while defending LLD and refusing to check that read. it's not sitting right rn.

[Alisae]

Now I’m gonna have to go soon so don’t fuck the game up ffs

yo next time you're in here please do something that's not whining at Ali thank you

I feel like getting content out of you here is like pulling teeth

he’s scum didn’t you know this

[Gamma Emerald]

Go to bed Ali.

trying its hard to turn my ipad off

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I don’t want to shit on the IC but it’s damn clear e’s not playing the game to win. I feel like Ciera Easton in Survivor Second Chances rn

Alright let's put it this way.
How many slots are in the game?
How many slots do you have control over?
Is Alisae that one slot?
No.

Shitting on em for not having a perfect solve when you're POE scum for doing sweet fuck all isn't a pot/kettle situation. it's either shamefully disrespecting the effort Ali is putting into the game, or it's scum manipulation (which is admirable, but truly shockingly bad play here).

If you're not happy with the gamestate, you have the power to fix it. And you fix it by being productive and playing to your wincon. Not by shitting on other people for playing to theirs.

duckie OUT *drops mic*

dude he’s desperate and he’s scum stop engaging with him

Hey brainiac. Town can be desperate too, it is LyLo, get a fucking grip. I wouldn’t be this cheesed at you if you were confirmed town, but you are and I made sure of it.

[Dannflor]

and the drop of pressure on him didn’t seem natural.

also going back to look, the only one pushing PB seemed to be Mena??

What about the switch away from PB looking unnatural? And what does that even mean? Like do you think Mena and PB are partners?

why would this be scum indicative

Yes I do think Mena and PB are partners. It looks completely choreographed.

You think the whole Menalque/Pine debacle was staged?

[Alisae]

Ali I'll sheep whatever you want tomorrow but only if you go to bed right now.

I’ll try to turn the ipad off and not reopen it

[Wooper]

11104 i don't knowwww if i have any feelingssss about thissss

It can be written off as NAI either way but also works as a form of PR fishing for a portion of the setup the scum team would be greatly interested in

or just derpy!town but I feel like it's a stretch to read all of Ico as derpy!town

basically yeah I feel like it should be AI but idk which one it is

[Something_Smart]

Put in a bunch of random passcodes and lock yourself out for 5 minutes or something.

[Gamma Emerald]

Now I’m gonna have to go soon so don’t fuck the game up ffs

when did you start caring?
You haven’t cared since D1.
D4 you just gave your vote to pine and whatever, and since ur not actually doing anything.

Ur scum dude

I started caring Day 5 thank you not at all. And do you really hold me giving Pine my vote against me? Despite it ending up on who you wanted votes on?

[Dannflor]

The one point for town!Ico here is that his presence was so low that I can't believe he actually thought he'd have any sort of affect on the LLD wagon. Striking out on his own is ballsy.

it's a point. I considered the vote somewhat towny on reread until I realised he vanitywagonsits Chenn who he cased in extremely bad faith while defending LLD and refusing to check that read. it's not sitting right rn.

yeah...

I'd consider it townier if the vote had been someone with a less LHF status

[Gamma Emerald]

and the drop of pressure on him didn’t seem natural.

also going back to look, the only one pushing PB seemed to be Mena??

What about the switch away from PB looking unnatural? And what does that even mean? Like do you think Mena and PB are partners?

why would this be scum indicative

Yes I do think Mena and PB are partners. It looks completely choreographed.

You think the whole Menalque/Pine debacle was staged?

Yes

[Wooper]

Menalque. And do you want me to summarize the case or write my own thoughts?

Own thoughts on this would be gr8 pls

[Dannflor]

Gamma!

Please stop arguing with Alisae! It's not going to make this game easier! What can make this game easier is you focusing on playing it!

Thank you!