Mini 591: Re-Infiltration - GAME OVER!


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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:11 am

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Eight become seven...

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, is dead.

Looks like the situation here isn't as simple as some could have suspected...


It's now Day
4
3.
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:09 am

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VOTE:TM
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:51 am

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Vote: Xtoxm
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:30 pm

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Poj and Xtoxm are the final 2 scum based on Ythill's posts:

Xtoxm first:
Ythill wrote:I will second the
FoS Xtoxm
for lurker hunting too early.

@ rofl: Why attack Xtoxm for this but not attack Rice?
First off, as I've said earlier, a FoS is absolutely useless in terms of discussion. If you post your opinion, people will get the idea of who you find suspicious. An FoS is just a "safe" way of voting, and in this instance, it seems very likely that Ythill is distancing himself from Xtoxm while not actually putting him in a situation of danger.

In addition, Ythill's FoS is a claim of suspicion towards Xtoxm, but in the same post he immediately asks rofl why he attacked Xtoxm. It makes no sense.
Ythill wrote:I like rofl's double-barbed attack at Xtoxm: challenging him to back up the lurker-hunt strategy with meta shortly after X claimed a meta-heavy early game style. I don't know that this is a town-tell on rofl, but I like his argument style. If he is scum, he'll be dangerous.
Here it seems like Ythill is encouraging an attack on Xtoxm, but that's really not what's going on. Again, Ythill seems to agree that Xtoxm is suspicious, but he still fails to vote. On top of this, he paints rofl as dangerous, making any of rofl's future arguments look suspicious by nature. It's a pseudo-defense of Xtoxm.
Ythill wrote:
FoS poj
for rushing the day. We have very little decent information.
Poj enters the spotlight with a scummy post and Ythill immediately jumps in AGAIN with the FoS nonsense. In a game where we talk with our votes, why is Ythill so non-committal to these two players?

After the FoS, Poj piles up the votes and Ythill comes up with this gem:
Ythill wrote:Poj is @ L-2 already, so lets be careful.

Rofl is awfully antagonistic, which seems counterproductive if he's scum. Does anybody have a good meta read on him?

In Mini 539, Xtoxm was town. He didn't pressure lurkers early, but he did help hang a lurker at the end of D1. That lurker was the doc and the game was recent. I'd like to think he would have learned his lesson.
3 things of note here.

-Ythill finds Poj to be scummy, yet is afraid of him being lynched. Why is that? In addition to this, Poj was only at L-3 at that point in time, which Ythill later corrected. To me, this sounds like he was having anxiety about the potential lynch of Poj (again, despite Ythill finding Poj scummy).
-Ythill again undermines Rofl, who has gone after both Xtoxm and Poj thus far in the game.
-Ythill pushes the idea that Xtoxm is scum, despite the earlier and future FoS he would apply.
Ythill wrote:@ Coug: Two of your suspects rely on the assumption that poje is scum. Careful with that: confirmation bias.

C'mon people... post.
Another pseudo-defense by Ythill, this time for Poj.
pojedinac wrote:I say go for it guys. I want to see a lynch, and I don't care if it's my own.
pojedinac wrote:
If MrB turns up town, I'll wholeheartedly support my own lynch
As for Poj himself, why is a townie so apathetic here? In my few games of experience, I've only ever seen scum use phrases like these. It's a pity defense and it's absolutely useless to help the town.


Finally, the only interaction Xtoxm and Poj have had was these posts:

Two in the joke phase
Xtoxm wrote:
vote poj


Cos I don't like cats with guns...
Xtoxm wrote:
pojedinac wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
vote poj


Cos I don't like cats with guns...
You're just jealous because my cat with a gun could take your albino with a katana to the cleaners any day of the week. :P
Ohhh, you've crossed
the line
.

You're going down.

Apart from that, not a chance in hell.
And an agreement with Poj about who the town should lynch:
Xtoxm wrote:Poj you pretty much brought up what I was going to say. I mentioned this yesterday and Ythill still didn't expand on it much, I suggested a SF-Ythill pairing, and the fact that Ythill has come up scum increases my suspicions of him.

Xtoxm said absolutely nothing about Poj's lynchwagon.
Poj didn't even acknowledge the Xtoxm suspicions on Day 2.

Odd, huh?

vote Xtoxm

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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:07 pm

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Riceballtail wrote:
VOTE:TM
alvinz95 wrote:
Vote: Xtoxm
Neither of you give reasons for your vote. Explain please.

FoS: Riceballtail, alvinz95
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:45 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Riceballtail wrote:
VOTE:TM
alvinz95 wrote:
Vote: Xtoxm
Neither of you give reasons for your vote. Explain please.

FoS: Riceballtail, alvinz95
Obviously reasons stated on day 2. I want him LYNCHED, and no bogus claim, regardless of how much you guys will blast me.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:50 pm

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Do I have to repeat what I've already said?
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:16 pm

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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:59 am

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Riceballtail wrote:Do I have to repeat what I've already said?
I'll do it for you, since it's such a foolproof case. :roll:
Riceballtail wrote:
VOTE: TM


Knowing ythill is indeed your scumbuddy, you are obliged to be next.
Riceballtail wrote: TM: Liked by ythill, either pet townie or scum. Didn't like being voted earlier.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:14 am

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alvinz95 wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:
Riceballtail wrote:
VOTE:TM
alvinz95 wrote:
Vote: Xtoxm
Neither of you give reasons for your vote. Explain please.

FoS: Riceballtail, alvinz95
Obviously reasons stated on day 2. I want him LYNCHED, and no bogus claim, regardless of how much you guys will blast me.
Riceballtail wrote:Do I have to repeat what I've already said?
If you have to remind me, then do so. If you don't give a reason (or at least a reference) in your vote post, then I will assume you don't have one. Sorry, but that's me. For example:
So and so wrote:
Vote: StrangerCoug
for reasons given at post #1,226.
That's my cue to look at post #1,226 and look at said reasons. There aren't 1,226 posts here and nobody in this game is called So and so, so that post is purely hypothetical. You get my idea, though.

Un-FoS: Riceballtail, alvins95
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:12 am

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Eh, keeping notes sometimes causes you to forget if other people do it too or not. No worries, and I'll try to remember for next time.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:54 am

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vote alvinz
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:55 am

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Xtoxm wrote:
vote alvinz
OMGUS.
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:57 am

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Right. Whatever.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:19 am

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UNVOTE
VOTE: Xtoxm


That attitude is anti-town, and I don't like it. Also, TM makes quite a compelling case. You have nothing to say about it?
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:25 am

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Riceballtail wrote:
UNVOTE
VOTE: Xtoxm


That attitude is anti-town, and I don't like it. Also, TM makes quite a compelling case. You have nothing to say about it?
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:28 am

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You can't you are already voting me, scum.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:48 am

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Xtoxm wrote:You can't you are already voting me, scum.
Riceball was voting Talmadge Monroe. Now he is voting you. L-1 claim.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:27 pm

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*booooo.... eerie sounds.... ghosty voicees.....*

will you mod PM when this game ends? I'm not watching this thread (keeping only the games where I'm alive) but I wanna see the final results.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:49 am

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alvinz95 wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
vote alvinz
OMGUS.
Xtoxm wrote:Right. Whatever.
Way to be flippant. I'll wait for a claim before deciding on anything, but
HoS: Xtoxm
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:56 am

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Fine, i'm the doctor. I'm pretty sure alvinz is scum, now.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:09 am

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You're the doctor…?

*lays hammer on table*

I'm not going to counterclaim unless and until someone else does, so
Unvote: Xtoxm
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:16 am

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unvote
for now.

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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:17 am

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Xtoxm wrote:Fine, i'm the doctor. I'm pretty sure alvinz is scum, now.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:22 am

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Talmadge Monroe wrote:
unvote
for now.

Who did you protect and why?
Who do think? The one i've said i've found most pro-town, poj.

And rice, I was doctor there too, yes.
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