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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Wed May 28, 2008 3:14 am

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VOTECOUNT #44 (FINAL VOTECOUNT OF DAY 4)

armlx
(4): Claus, gorckat, Mokina, armlx


Not voting
(3): Xtoxm, Alabaska J, springlullaby

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Day 4 - The fall of the Dark Messiah


springlullaby
: So, we still have a cult and a mafia to defeat. Who should we lynch first?
armlx
: Lynch meee! I'm the cult leader!
Xtoxm
: No, lynch meee! I'm the last mafioso!
Alabaska J
: Why don't you guys decide with rock-paper-scissors? :roll:
Claus
: I have an idea! Why don't you both resign and we finish the game at once!
armlx
: Fine with me.
Xtoxm
: Sure!
Mokina
: NO! It's a trap, STOP IT! What if armlx is a recruit? What if Claus is the Cult Leader? What if Drunken Piper is not dead? What if? What if? WHAT IF?!?!?!
Claus
: If anyone has Valium please give it to her... :roll:
gorckat
: armlx, if you are really Jedah why have you created this dimension? what do you want? what is your business with our souls?

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gorckat
: WTF is that giant baby-monster?
springlullaby
: It's Shintai. Jedah needs our souls in order to feed him, once he is strong enough he will destroy everything that exists.
Alabaska J
: No way! My soul is no baby food!
Mokina
: What are we waiting for? LYNCH HIM!!!!

Very few would sacrifice their lives even for a good cause. NO one would sacrifice their immortal souls. Specially to help Jedah with his mad dreams. Jedah is lynched by the other players and now his own soul lurks in oblivion...waiting for the time... the time he will once again be brought back to life and will finally fulfill his destiny...


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armlx
was lynched on Day 4
He was
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, A-Class Darkstalker and Cult Leader


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The flavor in this post is just a humorous summary of the conversations during the game. No alignement and no portion of the setup is revealed there.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Wed May 28, 2008 3:14 am

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It's now Night.
I see no reason why it shouldn't be a short night.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 1:09 am

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Night 4 - Snapshots


Nobody died on Night 4

Boring, I know. So let's take this opportunity and check what Darkstalkers do when they are not...darkstalking. :twisted:

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Baby Bonnie Hood
: Here. Have an apple!
Felicia
: Why thank you! I laaaaahhhhhhh!

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Q-Bee
: What's the color? Can you see?
Jon Talbain
: She... er, isn't wearing any... :oops:

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Sasquatch
: Why are you shooting at those ducks?
Huitzil
: I'm perfecting my aim so I won't miss you!

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Anakaris
: Take It Away! Take It Away!
Felicia
: What are you afraid of? My lunch?

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Morrigan
: Stoh! oh! oh! oh! op!
Lord Raptor
: Didn't you say I have no backbones? I'm "introducing" them one by one. :twisted:

IMPORTANT!!!

Did you like the little animations above?
So be prepared for my next game: "
GIF MAFIA
" (Large Normal). Soon on Mafia Scum!

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wikipedia wrote: The snapshot concept was introduced to the public on a large scale by Eastman Kodak, which produced the Brownie box camera around 1900. Kodak encouraged families to use the Brownie to capture moments in time and to shoot photos without being concerned with producing perfect images. Kodak advertising urged consumers to "celebrate the moments of your life" and find a "Kodak moment."
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 1:13 am

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It's now Day 5.
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline in 18 days.
Game on.
Play with honor!
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 1:17 am

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vote: Xtoxm
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:19 am

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vote: Xtomx
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:33 am

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I didn't block Xtomx. It follows that Claus is a legitimate roleblocker.

Vote: Xtomx
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:41 am

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Well, I didn't actually kill anyone as I didn't expect it to go through.

vote Xtoxm
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:42 am

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Highlight of the game was watching Claus's frustration over Mokina yesterday. :P
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:43 am

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*shakes hand at xtomx* I knew you did it on purpose, xtomx!
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:45 am

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Lol, ofcourse I did! ;)
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:47 am

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Gorckat is not cult.

Vote: Xtoxm


Now the one big remaining mystery, who is Xtoxm. I say he should be Donovan. I hope he is, I always loved beating the crap out of him.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:52 am

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Yeh you missed the bandwagon.

And yes, you are also wrong. Try again!
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:53 am

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Claus wrote:*shakes hand at xtomx* I knew you did it on purpose, xtomx!
I got wise eventually when I realizedXtomx was replying to every single post I made... =D
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 2:59 am

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OMG, it was very fast.
Now I'm supposed to lock the thread again and make a lynch scene. :roll:

I'm closing the thread to make the scene, explain the game mechanics, display roles and nightactions.
Hopefully in less than 24h the thread will be open again for the "final discussion".
Bear with us. ;)
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 3:16 am

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VOTECOUNT #45 (GAME'S FINAL VOTECOUNT)

Xtoxm
(4): gorckat, Claus, Mokina, Xtoxm


Not voting
(2): Alabaska J, springlullaby

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Endgame - Kaboom


A new Day is born. The Darkstalkers wake up wishing for a special breakfast: Xtoxm's guts!


springlullaby
: Kill him!
Claus
: Lynch him!
Mokina
: Hang him!
Alabaska J
: Poison him!
springlullaby
: Rape him!

silence


Alabaska J
: Let's not exaggerate, ok? :roll:
gorckat
: Sorry. :oops:
Xtoxm
: Stupid Darkstalkers. You will never take me alive!
Mokina
: Actually, we didn't mean to... :twisted:

A panel opens on Xtoxm's arm. He types a code, and a blipping sound starts:

BIP

BIP

BIP


Claus
: Oh, no! It's a bomb!
Xtoxm
: We will all die together! Mwhahahahahaha!
springlullaby
: Wait, look at that!

springlullaby points to a portal, similar to those that brough the players into this dimension, that just opened nearby.
Is it a coincidence?
Was it opened by someone else?
It really doesn't matter to the Darkstalkers.
They cross the portal and are sent back to their places of origin. Leaving Xtoxm sitting on a bomb in an dimension ready to collapse...

BIP

BIP

BIP


Xtoxm
: Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM


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Xtoxm
was lynched on Day 5
He was
Huitzil
, not a Darkstalker (robot) and member of the Darkhunter Mafia


GAME OVER


Town (springlullaby, Mokina, Alabaska J, Claus, gorckat, Flameaxe and ooba) wins the game!
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 3:20 am

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ROLES


Written in black is the role as sent to the player.

Written in red are mod notes about the role.


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Morrigan – SKcop (Alabaska J)

A-Class Darkstalker
You are Morrigan Aensland
You sense the presence of Demitri Maximoff in this dimension.
You know that he is evil and must be stopped.
Every Night you may target a player. You will be told if that player is Demitri Maximoff or not.
You win when all threats to the demon world have been defeated, even if you are Resting In Peace.


If at any moment in the game Lilith’s soul is sent to R.I.P. Morrigan turns into “S Class” and inherits Lilith’s power.


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Lilith – cultcop (springlullaby)

B-Class Darkstalker
You are Lilith
Having a body created by Jedah you are able to sense his power, even if it’s within another darkstalker.
Every Night you may target a player. You will be told if you feel Jedah’s evil power in that player. You won’t know if it’s Jedah himself or not, but you want players under his influence dead too. ;)
You win when all threats to the demon world have been defeated, even if you are Resting In Peace.


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Felicia – JoaT (gorckat)

B-Class Darkstalker
You are Felicia
During you travels around the world you met some other catgirls that now travel with you and whom you may summon at Night to complete tasks for you:
- Pico: Will follow a player to see who he/she visits at Night.
- Alto: Will watch a player and see everyone who visits him/her at Night.
- Nana: Will lick a player to see if he/she tastes like a darkstalker or not.
- Mimi: Will smell a player to see if she feels the scent of blood in him/her
You can only summon one catgirl per Night, and you can only summon the same catgirl once in the game.
You win when all threats to the demon world have been defeated, even if you are Resting In Peace.


Nana will identify Darkhunter Mafia as not darkstalkers.
Mimi will feel blood scent on any player that performed a nightkill previously in the game.


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Hsien-Ko - JoaT (ooba)

B-Class Darkstalker
You are Hsien-Ko
You have a variety of weapons hidden under your sleeves that you may use at Night:
- Gong: Any actions that target you that Night will be directed back to the actor.
- Chinese Bomb: A powerful bomb that can kill even a higher level darkstalker. Only detonates on the following Night.
- Spikes from heaven: Summons giant spiked balls that surround a player and roleblock him/her for that Night.
- Soul Sister: The ward paper in your hat transforms into your sister Mei Ling and protects a player from night kills during that Night.
You can only use one weapon per Night, and you can only use the same weapon once in the game.
You win when all threats to the demon world have been defeated, even if you are Resting In Peace.


Gonged investigations will give the investigator the same result as if he targeted himself.


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Anakaris – doc/roleblocker (Claus (Sir Tornado))

B- Class Darkstalker
You are Anakaris
You have the power of summoning magic coffins.
Every Night you may choose a player to seal inside a coffin.
While locked the player will be protected from harm for the rest of the Night, but won't be able to perform night actions either.

You win when all threats to the demon world have been defeated, even if you are Resting In Peace.


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Rikuo - doc/roleblocker (Mokina (OpposedForce (RossWilliam)))

B- Class Darkstalker
You are Rikuo
You have the power of creating gigantic bubbles out of your fins. Those bubbles can become as hard as pearl, trapping other players inside them.
Every Night you may choose a player. That player will be trapped inside a bubble for the rest of the Night. While in the bubble the player will be safe from all harm, but will not be able to perform night actions either.
You win when all threats to the demon world have been defeated, even if you are Resting In Peace.


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Bishamon - vig (Flameaxe (RangeroftheNorth))

B-Class Darkstalker
You are Oboro Bishamon
With Kien, the blood-sucking sword, you are able to cut through the souls even of higher level Darkstalkers.
Every Night you may choose a player and kill him/her with your sword.
You win when all threats to the demon world have been defeated, even if you are Resting In Peace.


IMPORTANT

Inside Bishamon's soul there is an everlasting struggle between Hannya, the armor of hate, and the will of Oboro, a man.
Every time you spill the blood of an innocent Hannya will take over, and you will turn into a selfaligned SK.
If you manage to kill two evil players in a row Oboro will rise again and you regain your initial win condition.

Killing a protown player will turn Bishamon into a SK.
Bishamon will earn a level every time he changes alignement.
After reaching S Class Bishamon won't shift alignement anymore.
Bishamon's final win condition will be the one he has at endgame or when he dies.


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Q-Bee - survivor (GhostWriter)

B-Class Darkstalker
You are Q-Bee
As the queen of the hive, it's your duty to collect nutritive souls in order to feed the other Soul Bees.
Every Night you may select a name under the R.I.P. section of the status page. The soul of this dead player will be collected.
You have no interest in the matters of other races, you only want to collect some souls and go back alive to your hive.
You win if you are alive by endgame and have collected at least one soul

Unfortunately you have no room for an infinite number of souls, so as an alternative:
You win if at any moment in the game you have collected four souls


SAFE CLAIM

I don't think you really need one. Also because Q-Bee is not really evil (just hungry). :P
You can claim survivor, or make up an ability. Use your imagination. ;)

Souls collected by Q-Bee are sent to B.I.H section of the status page.
If Q-Bee wins all players that had their souls collected by her lose the game, regardless of their team's performance
Q-Bee gains a level after collecting three souls


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Demitri - SK (Rogueben (Ration))

A-Class Darkstalker
You are Demitri Maximoff
In order to have the power to fulfill your desire of ruling the Demon World and having your revenge agaist the Aensland House you need to feed on the blood of other darkstalkers.
You have the following abilities:
- Midnight Bliss: Every Night you may target a player. You will suck the player's blood and as a result he/she will die. If you target a darkstalker of a Class higher than yours the action will fail.
- Demon Billion: If you are targetted by a killing role your body turns into a band of bats and the kill fails. Demon Billion works automatically, but it cancels your use of Midnight Bliss.
You win if by endgame you are the only player left alive


IMPORTANT

Morrigan Aensland's blood has a special taste. It was her deceased father, Belial, who defeated and banished you from the Demon World.
If you target and kill Morrigan you will reach S-Class and will be able to use Midnight Bliss and Demon Billion on the same Night.

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SAFE CLAIM

This role was not used in the game.
Use it as safe claim if you want:
Donovan Baine - vig.
You use your magic sword Dhylec to cut evil darkstalkers in half

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Jedah - cult recruiter (armlx)

A-Class Darkstalker
You are Jedah Dohma
Your created this dimension and summoned the other players. Now all you need is to collect their souls.
Every night you may use ONE of the following abilities:
- Recruit: You choose a player and try to steal his/her soul. If you succeed the player becomes your follower.
- Hide: You choose one of your followers and hide behind him/her. Any nightaction directed at you will affect that follower instead. Of course you must have at least one follower alive to use this.
You win automatically when at least 50% of the players are cult members and it’s impossible to stop them from winning.


RECRUITING

You can only recruit darkstalkers as followers.
If you have no followers alive you can only recruit B-Class darkstalkers.
If you have at least one follower alive you can recruit A-Class darkstalkers.
If at any moment in the game you have two followers alive you raise to S-Class. After that you can recruit A-Class darkstalkers regardless of how many followers you have alive.

FOLLOWERS

Your followers share the same win condition as you.
You don't get to know their role names. When you try to recruit a player you are just informed if it worked or not.
When a player is recruited by you he/she receives the following PM:
You have been recruited by Jedah (Player), the cult leader.
Your votes against him will not be counted.
You CAN'T talk to him. You may receive messages from THE MOD ONLY.
Your win condition has been replaced:
You win automatically when at least 50% of the players are cult members and it’s impossible to stop them from winning.

Any doubt please send me a pm.
COMMUNICATION

The cult has NO night talk, but every Night you can send ME a pm with instructions for the day. I will send the pm to all followers.

IMPORTANT

If you die, you lose. All the players who had the soul taken by you, dead or alive, have their original win conditions restored. THEY DON'T KNOW THIS. I'd suggest that you don't inform them, otherwise they may metagame a way to win the game by throwing you under the bus.

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SAFE CLAIM

This role was not used in the game.
Use it as safe claim if you want:
Jon Talbain - cop.
Use your accurate sense of smell to detect non darkastalkers.

Dead cultists go to B.I.H. and are out of reach to Q-Bee
If Jedah dies the win conditions of all cultists, dead or alive, are restored to what they were before recruitment.
If Jedah dies the souls of dead cultists are freed and go from B.I.H. to R.I.P.


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Baby Bonnie Hood (Drunken Piper) and Huitzil (Xtoxm (DeanWinchester)) - Darkhunter Mafia

Not darkstalkers
You are Baby Bonnie Hood and Huitzil
You two have different reasons, but the same objective: kill all darkstalkers. Therefore you join forces and form the "darkhunters".
Every Night you can choose a player to kill. The kill may be performed by either of you, so please specify who is being sent.
Huitzil has the ability of using his powerful magnets to hold a player, roleblocking him. Huitzil is unable of roleblocking and killing at the same time, so if at any point in the game he is alone he must choose either to kill or roleblock.
You win automatically when at least 50% of the players are dark hunters and it’s impossible to stop them from winning.


IMPORTANT

You may communicate freely during the NIGHT phase of the game. For this communication you will use this forum: http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/U5fg9bHbyQtP
Use it to inform me of your night choices too. Don’t worry, no one else will have access to that forum. Since the game starts by Day you may make ONE post to introduce yourselves and discuss strategy. After that you will only be able to talk again when the game goes to night.

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SAFE CLAIMS

These two roles were not used in the game.
Use them as safe claims if you want:
Sasquatch - doc/roleblocker.
Every Night you can freeze a player with your ice breath. The player will be locked inside an ice block and will be protected from nightkills, but won't be able to perform nightactions either.
Victor von Gerdenheim - JoaT
You can increase the size of your body parts at will, earning special abilities:
- HANDS: Protect a player.
- FEET: Kills a player stomping on him.
- EYES: Investigate a player.
- BUTT: Deflect a nightkill.:P
You can only use each ability once, and only one every night.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 3:26 am

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NIGHT ACTIONS


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Night 1


01- Morrigan (Alabaska J) -investigate nobody (x)
02- Lilith (springlullaby) -investigate OpposedForce (blocked by Xtoxm)
03- Anakaris (Claus) -protect/block Alabaska J (no need)
04- Rikuo (OpposedForce) -protect/block Alabaska J (no need)
05- Felicia (gorckat) -Alto (watch) Alabaska J (sees Claus and OpposedForce)

06- Hsien-Ko (ooba) -Soul Sister (protect) sprinlullaby (done)
07- Bishamon (Flameaxe) -kill sprinlullaby (protected by ooba)

08- Q-Bee (GhostWriter) -take the soul of nobody (x)
10- BBHood (Drunken Piper) -kill ooba (done)
11- Huitzil (Xtoxm) -block springlullaby (done)
12- Jedah (armlx) -recruit Drunken Piper (not a darkstalker)

Ooba stopped the kill of an innocent and prevented the vig from becoming a SK. Good job.
GhostWriter asked me if he could to skip collecting a soul afraid of conflict with other “soul catchers”. There is no such thing but I was afraid if I forced him to act I would be favoring a player by forcing him to come closer to meeting his winning condition, so I agreed to skip (because no night action is mandatory). I also didn’t like when Twonz skipped a Mafia kill on Mafia 69 (it also worked against him). I will consider making all night actions (except for vig) mandatory on my future games.

Night 2


01- Morrigan (Alabaska J) -investigate nobody (x)
02- Lilith (springlullaby) -investigate Claus (not cult)
03- Anakaris (Claus) -protect/block Flameaxe (blocked by Mokina)

04- Rikuo (Mokina) -protect/block Claus (done)
05- Felicia (gorckat) -Nana (lick) Xtoxm (not a darkstalker)
07- Bishamon (Flameaxe) -kill nobody (x)
08- Q-Bee (GhostWriter) -take the soul of Rogueben (done)
11- Huitzil (Xtoxm) -kill Flameaxe (done)
12- Jedah (armlx) -recruit Flameaxe (killed first by Xtoxm)


Due to order of actions Mokina blocked Claus and he failed to protect Flameaxe.
Also due to order of actions Flameaxe died BEFORE being culted and died as town.

Night 3


01- Morrigan (Alabaska J) -investigate nobody (x)
02- Lilith (springlullaby) -investigate Mokina (not cult)
03- Anakaris (Claus) -protect/block armlx (done)

04- Rikuo (Mokina) -protect/block Xtoxm (done)
05- Felicia (gorckat) -Pico (track) armlx (targets springlullaby)

11- Huitzil (Xtoxm) -kill springlullaby (blocked by Mokina)
12- Jedah (armlx) -recruit springlullaby (blocked by Claus)


Night 4


01- Morrigan (Alabaska J) -investigate nobody (x)
02- Lilith (springlullaby) -investigate Gorckat(not cult)
03- Anakaris (Claus) -protect/block Xtoxm (done)

04- Rikuo (Mokina) -protect/block Alabaska J(no need)
05- Felicia (gorckat) -does nothing (x)
11- Huitzil (Xtoxm) -kill Dead Rikimaru(blocked by Claus)
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 3:27 am

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GAME MECHANICS


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Here I explain the decisions I took while designing the game, what I expected to happen and what actually happened.
The fun of making setups is to give players a myriad of paths to choose and see the game be defined by the paths they choose.
This game in particular had many possible outcomes and a different set of players with different choices could make it walk a totally different way.
I surely intend to run similar games in the future.

1- Game Balance

My MAIN concern for this game was not balance (not that it was not a concern), I wanted to make a FUN game with lots of night actions, alignment changes and where anything could happen.
All sides had a shot at winning. Town had an "easy" win due to a combination of events, but
if ooba, for example, didn't protect springlullaby on Night 1 town would reach Day 2 with only 4 members and there would be an extra SK. :P


2- Too much protection?

The game had 2 Doc/Rb, a Mafia Blocker and a JoAT with one shot protection and block.
It also had a Mafia, a SK, a Vig and a JoAT with one shot kill.
The reason for this was to make the number of deaths by night unpredictable and with varied killing methods.

There were few Night Kills because:
- SK got lynched on Day 1
- Vig decided not kill on Night 2 (I expected the vig to kill without worry since if he killed townies he would not win with town anymore) :twisted:
- JoAT used protection but died before using kill
- Cultist failed to recruit (recruitees would lose abilities)

The game had a lot of potential to be a 2-day bloody massacre, it was fun to see how each individual action contributed to the final result.

3- Jailkeeper or Doc/Roleblocker?

All players automatically considered doc/rb = jailkeeper. They didn't even question themselves if there could be a difference.
I decided to name the roles doc/rb because in "my" action order jailkeeping is considered a one single action that works on the blocking turn. Due to the multiple protecting and blocking in the game I wanted the blocking to go first, so I broke jk into doc/rb.

- If Rikuo and Anakaris protected each other both would be blocked and neither protected.
- If Rikuo protected Anakaris (for example) Anakaris would be protected but would fail to protect/rb

4- Order of Night actions

Game after game my standard rules section becomes larger and larger.
I'm always finding out things that would better be explained in the game rules. In this game it's the order of nightactions. My standard order would be:

1- blocking
2- protecting
3- killing
4- recruiting
5- investigating

- Flameaxe died as town because killing goes before recruiting.
- Claus failed to protect Flameaxe because blocking goes before protection
- If springlullaby investigated a player that had just been culted she would see him already as guilty because recruiting goes before investigating

5- Repeated roles

I used repeated roles for several reasons:
- It helped safe claims to look real
- It helped to increase the town's paranoia
- It was fun to design the JoAT's with several different powers.

6- Safe claims

A decent mode must always be prepared against mass claims in themed games.
For this game I prepared very detailed safe claims. It's a shame most of them were not used.

If the players decided for a D1 mass claim it would look like this:
Doc/Rbs: Rikuo/Anakaris/Victor(Mafia)
JoATs: Felicia/Hsien-Ko/Sasquatch(Mafia)
Vigs: Bishamon/Donovan(SK)
Cops: Morrigan/Lilith/Jon(Cult)

- The Mafia claims would make trios with the real Docs and JoATs, making them hard to confirm and to trust.
- The SK received a vig claim with a sword killing method, the same method of the real vig.
- The Cult leader received a tricky claim. It was a Darkhunter Cop to combine with the SK Cop(Morrigan) and Cult Cop(Lilith). This claim had a high risk/high return as it was very believeable but made the claimer a target for the mafia.

7- About the Survivor

I didn't give the survivor a safe claim because making the most to survive was his responsibility.:P Also it was not a scum role and was recruitable.

8- About the Mafia

It was hard to select the characters, Darkstalkers has lots of potential for SKs but little for Mafia. In the end I decided to mix BBHood and Huitzil because they had different reasons to kill the others and no reason to kill each other. :P

Two reasons for a two-man mafia:
1- To open space for a cult and a SK without adding too much scum.
2- Because if many kills connected a 3-man Mafia could win very fast.

Both darkhunters were found due to "investigations" but I think it was a mistake not to use the safe claims. They didn't even try. :(

9- About the Cult

An inflating scum faction was dangerous in a mini with so many killing roles, and could win the game very fast. To make the things more interesting I gave the cult some features:
- The Cult Recruiter had two possible actions: Hide or Recruit. If he selected Hide he would not fear a nightkill, but would not be able to Recruit.
- If the Cult Recruiter died the cult would dissolve and he would lose. This was to make him fear nightkills enough to actually consider using Hide.
- To make things even more interesting Jedah's power increased with more recruits. I was looking forward to seeing how would the player deal with such choices. (in the end he didn't have to. Since he never managed to recruit anyone recruiting was always his only choice)
- Only the mafia was totally immune to recruitment, even Demitri and Morrigan could be recruited as long as Jedah had already a living recruit.

The cult recruiter was a counterpart to the survivor, and an undisclosed survivor himself.
While Q-Bee stole the souls of dead players, Jedah stole the souls of living ones, and both needed to be alive in order to win.

armlx played well, but was very unlucky with night actions.
On Night 1 he could recruit 7 out of 10 possible targets. He went for one of the three that he couldn't.
On Night 2 he went for a recruitable, but the Mafia killed that player.
On Night 3 he went for the best possible choice: the cult cop. That choice could have won the game but Claus blocked it and killed the cult.
:P

10 - Memorable moments

- Demitri was lynched on Day 1 and Morrigan became the same as a vanilla townie in a game that was supposed to not have vanillas. :P
- Thriller! :twisted:
- Drunken Piper rhymes and making scenes with them.
- The Replacement virus failed to destroy the game
- Xtoxm "helping" the town on Day 4. :lol:

THANK YOU FOR PLAYING


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Thanks you very much to all who played the game from the start or replaced into it.
I hope you had as much fun playing as I had modding.
Cheers
DR
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 10:08 am

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ckd wrote:Gorckat, I have not been impressed with gorckat’s scum hunting abilities in any game he has been in. But you fire a shotgun enough times in a forest, you eventually will hit a tree.
:o :evil: :lol:

I've never impressed myself either, FWIW :P

I suppose bagging the SK Day one made things a lot easier, as well as the cultcop surviving long enough to reveal. Before the role and night action reveals, I was actually thinking town was overpowered (even with a sk and cult out there) but it looks more like we got lucky making all the right moves.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 10:20 am

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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 10:23 am

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Both JOAT and Jailkeeper are very underestimated roles. I'm surprised a single kill actually went through though, what with 2 jailkeeps, 1 protective JOAT, a mafia RB, and an NK immune SK.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 10:25 am

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Good game. Sorry for jumping at shadows.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 10:41 am

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gorckat wrote:I suppose bagging the SK Day one made things a lot easier, as well as the cultcop surviving long enough to reveal. Before the role and night action reveals, I was actually thinking town was overpowered (even with a sk and cult out there) but it looks more like we got lucky making all the right moves.
This game may look like it had too many protective roles.
It did.
But it also had too many killing roles. One of the worst case scenarios was the game ending on Day 2 for excessive killing.

But the decisions the players took made it go the other way.

1- The SK was lynched on Day 1, having no chance to kill.
2- ooba's incredibly lucky choice of protection on Day 1 saved the Vig from killing the Cult Recruiter and becoming another SK.
3- Mafia's REFUSAL to use the SAFE claims didn't bring town the paranoia that was the purpose of their creation, so the real protectors were easy to confirm and coordinate actions to avoid kills even more.

Those three factors plus the Cultist lack of luck in choosing targets gave town a big advantage.

If ooba protected someone else on Night 1 town would have had little chance.

If Claus didn't block armlx on Night 3 he would have recruited spring and cult would be in a very good position to win.

Also Gorckat made excellent use of each of his one-shots. Specially the investigation on Xtoxm on Night 2. Looks like you hit your tree, Gorckat. :P
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 10:49 am

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armlx wrote:Both JOAT and Jailkeeper are very underestimated roles. I'm surprised a single kill actually went through though, what with 2 jailkeeps, 1 protective JOAT, a mafia RB, and an NK immune SK.
But there was a Vigilante, a SK, the Mafia, and a killing JoAT.
And players recruited by the cult (even the SK could be recruited) would lose their power.
All of this was taken into consideration (Night 1 could have had up to three deaths) and the events mentioned on my last post turned the game into the direction it went through.
Actually I didn't aim for a game with too many kills or too little kills. I aimed for things that would confuse the player's logic. Like having 1 death in one Night and 3 deaths i other and multiples of the same role making hard to see through fake claims.
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