Mini 573 - Darkstalkers Mafia - Game over!

[Dead Rikimaru]

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Lord Raptor

VOTECOUNT #42

armlx

(1): Claus

springlullaby

(1): armlx

Not voting

(5): springlullaby, Mokina, Alabaska J, gorckat, Xtoxm

Deadline is on

June 16

Needed for a lynch: 4 votes
If by deadline no one has 4 votes the player with more votes is lynched
If two players share the top score of votes lynch is decided by

duel

[Xtoxm]

Also, i've been thinking there's something dodgy about 2 jailkeepers. Especially when i'm a roleblocker.

[Mokina]

Claus is the cult leader. He managed to get armlx at some point. Together, they pulled a crazy gambit this morning. First of all, Claus fished for info on N3. Armlx then claimed a cop result, and...

I roleblocked Armlx.
Mokina has obviously roleblocked Xtomx, since he didn't kill.
Gorckat got a real watcher result N1.
Xtomx has killed flameaxe N2.
Alabaska is clear as per Rogueben.

Armlx wasn't blocked, so his cop result is probably genuine. In fact, all of this is true except for his own action. As such, it's easy to want to join the coming wagon:

Propose: Cult and Mafia resign. Town wins.

And just in case the mod does not recognize the request:

Vote:Armlx

(Alphabetical priority).

As mentioned earlier, it's impossible that DR would allow a resignation.

Claus suggests that the cult give up, but also casts a vote. The "alphabetical priority" disclaimer masks the fact that he's throwing his cultie under a bus. That leaves him free to convert someone else tonight, and when we lynch Xtoxm tomorrow, he converts again. Instant cult win, just add water.

I won't vote until everyone has had a chance to talk, but I believe I have found our cult. SL, Alabaska, gorckat... as the remaining innocents, this is in your hands.

[Mokina]

I roleblocked Armlx.

Almost forgot about that. This claim was, of course, because of gorkcat. If he'd been tracking Claus, he would have seen him visiting Armlx last night.

Also, i've been thinking there's something dodgy about 2 jailkeepers. Especially when i'm a roleblocker.

QFT; my thoughts exactly when I found out you were a RB.

[gorckat]

Also, i've been thinking there's something dodgy about 2 jailkeepers. Especially when i'm a roleblocker.

Like ooba, I am a JOAT. That is what made me willing to believe two jailkeepers in the setup, and I have at least one power duped by others (investigation, somewhat).

The multiple factions makes duplicate roles very plausible.

[Claus]

Guys. You're waaaay to untrusting.

What would I gain by saying that armlx is the CL, him being a cultie, and bussing him? REALLY?

Suppose for a second it is true. You kill armlx. It is revealed that I'm lying. Mokina roleblocks me tonight, and you kill me tomorrow. What kind of gambit is that? If that was REALLY a gambit, I would be trying to lynch Xtomx, not Armlx.

No, that makes no sense. Armlx was simply caught on a lie, and now knows he can't win.

It is not some devious master plan. Town won. Just that. The setup had two roleblockers (me, mokina), two JOATs (Gorckat and Ooba), two mafia (Xtomx and DP), A SK and SK cop, a Cult and cultcop, a vigilante and a survivor.

The cult leader tried to recruit mafia D1, Flameaxe D2, and was roleblocked today.

Now, let's end this game, please?

Over and out.

[Claus]

About DR not allowing a resignation, nobody has seconded it, of course he won't consider. Just quicklynch armlx.

[gorckat]

Yes, i'm essentially a pro-town vig at this point, and you blocked my kill. (And my RB).

So you can do both at once?

I do believe armlx is the CL. If there is a cultie, its Claus given his reaction to the unculting of recruits.

[Claus]

Gorckat. Suppose that Armlx has a cultie.

We lynch Armlx, then we lynch xtomx. Game is not over. Then we go no-lynch until SL has investigated everyone.

Xtomx can do both at once, but he is can't do any if he is roleblocked. I asked DR that last night, to know if it was necessary that both me and mokina roleblocked him, or just one of us.

[Xtoxm]

Xtomx can do both at once, but he is can't do any if he is roleblocked. I asked DR that last night, to know if it was necessary that both me and mokina roleblocked him, or just one of us.

This is correct.

[Mokina]

Gorckat. Suppose that Armlx has a cultie.

We lynch Armlx, then we lynch xtomx. Game is not over. Then we go no-lynch until SL has investigated everyone.

Xtomx can do both at once, but he is can't do any if he is roleblocked. I asked DR that last night, to know if it was necessary that both me and mokina roleblocked him, or just one of us.

Airtight, unless you consider my suspicion that Armlx

is

the cultie...

...I don't know. I've been told I jump at shadows. I'd like to hear from SL.

[Mokina]

Suppose for a second it is true. You kill armlx. It is revealed that I'm lying. Mokina roleblocks me tonight, and you kill me tomorrow. What kind of gambit is that? If that was REALLY a gambit, I would be trying to lynch Xtomx, not Armlx.

Fair enough. I would be willing to vote for Armlx and roleblock you if you're lying.

[Claus]

If Armlx is the cultie and I'm the CL that would've been even more stupid, because SL cleared me yesterday - so unless SL is lying, I'm not the CL.

What do you want to hear from her again?

[Xtoxm]

We could be looking at a 3 member cult here with armlx, Claus and SL.

[Mokina]

...because SL cleared me yesterday...

Stupid. Me.

Town, would a cult population of three win at this point? They'd be equal to the number of innocents, but below half of the total population. I'm hazy about how cults work.

[Mokina]

We could be looking at a 3 member cult here with armlx, Claus and SL.

Ha! Simulpost. We really are thinking alike.

[Xtoxm]

They'd deft need to atleast be the same number as the size of rest of town, regardless of rest of town's alignment.

And interesting case would be with me alive, 2 townies and 3 cult...Town/Mafia could still win with a NL, so probably they need to outnumber town.

[Mokina]

FoS: Claus, Armlx, SL

, with Claus as leader.

Then we go no-lynch until SL has investigated everyone.

Scumvenient, isn't it?

[Claus]

But Gorckat tracked Armlx to SL tonight, right? So if that were true, the CL is still armlx.

[Claus]

Mokina. Stop listening to caught scum. Why don't you lynch armlx to see if I'm lying. You know you can roleblock me if he turns out non-CL.

But please, please, if he DOES turn out CL, block xtomx, ok?

[Xtoxm]

A recruited townie would still be able to retain his powers, I think.

[Xtoxm]

Stop listening to caught scum.

You'd like that?

In cult games, it gets to a point where town and mafia need to work together. Preferably for the mafia not with him outed.

[Mokina]

But Gorckat tracked Armlx to SL tonight, right? So if that were true, the CL is still armlx.

Neh... wrong... if Armlx is a recruited cultie, he could just mafiacop investigate SL as a blind.

Not buying it.

[Claus]

Xtomx, then please explain to me what is wrong in the

Lynch armlx
- If CL block xtomx
- if not CL block Claus

plan.

[Xtoxm]

I'm not part of the cult, but the way you are pushing for it makes me uneasy.