Er....something's going to change; specifically, we're not unlikely to lynch Primate.EmpTyger wrote: Why can’t the town consider that when we’re ready to evaluate TSN’s claim? Nothing’s going to change between now and then regarding Primate and him.
Speaking of which...sorry, Stoofer, I'll get back to you later.
vote: Primate
Huh? I was against Primate (but voting Stoofer) until TSN came forward, and am still against Primate, but wih TSN would give me something useful. I don't consider TSN more suspicious than Primate is -- but I do consider what he's given us so far completely useless in terms of proving Primate pro-town.EmpTyger wrote: For that matter, why are you against a massclaim? Because, it sounds like you were against Primate until TSN came forward, and now are thinking Primate innocent and TSN guilty.
Yes, I expect it to give us something to go on re Primate. I'm fine with vague supports in general -- "Internet stranger is supciious" "dude, don't heckle IS; he's cool" "ok,, if you say so dude" -- but given the solid claim I want something more solid (and note upthread what I actually -asked- -- which TSN never answered).EmpTyger wrote: If you don’t think claims could be useful, how do you explain your switch on Primate? Are you expecting a fuller claim from TSN to be any different than the Primate situation?
What is this, strawman-building day?EmpTyger wrote: You’re making a broad generalization without any support whatsoever for your position. Would you oppose a massclaim in lynch-or-lose? D4? D2?
D1 is not LoL, and not D4. A well designed game doesn't favor town in a too-early massclaim, because the scum, with extra info, can pick out info they find useful and ignore the rest, whereas the town cannot pick out mafia claims from town claims.
In a badly designed game, a D1 massclaim can prove to be a breaking strategy -- but it's still not all that much fun to see all the magic too early, and usually, "BW-till-claim, then evaluate claim" is the right approach to achieving said massclaim anyway.
Regardless, this is a meta; it has nothing to do with judgement within a game, I just don't like D1 massclaims.
I also don't think they're a good strategy here, but I'll particpate in one if the majority wants to enforce one. Is anyone counting votes?