Mini 599: Rwandan Genocide - Game Over

[armlx]

Sorry Jathan, your set up is broken beyond belief.

No lynch 2x then mass claim of citizen/not citizen. Both nights troops are rallied and 2 Tutsi are revealed. Mass claim leaves us with 2 unfound Tutsi, based on numbers we proceed from there.

[armlx]

Vote no lynch

More discussion of my plan is needed.

[armlx]

Sorry Jathan, your set up is broken beyond belief.

No lynch 2x then mass claim of citizen/not citizen. Both nights troops are rallied and 2 Tutsi are revealed. Mass claim leaves us with 2 unfound Tutsi, based on numbers we proceed from there.

but what about if one of the leaders is killed?
also, doesn't the Tutsi Leader have a 1 shot disruption (IE will be able to stop a Tutsi from being revealed to a Hutu)?

This is why we claim AFTER 2 nights of rallying. The Leader is shooting in the dark.

[armlx]

Sorry Jathan, your set up is broken beyond belief.

No lynch 2x then mass claim of citizen/not citizen. Both nights troops are rallied and 2 Tutsi are revealed. Mass claim leaves us with 2 unfound Tutsi, based on numbers we proceed from there.

but what about if one of the leaders is killed?
also, doesn't the Tutsi Leader have a 1 shot disruption (IE will be able to stop a Tutsi from being revealed to a Hutu)?

This is why we claim AFTER 2 nights of rallying. The Leader is shooting in the dark.

but so are the ralliers

No, the ralliers know the other one will rally each night, and their ability doesn't target. It simply reveals a name of a scum to a random townsperson.

[armlx]

Meh, we could reveal the result tomorrow and lynch them to be sure it doesn't.

[armlx]

Right. They both rally tomorrow after a NL, then both rally the next night after a NL or lynch of the revealed Tutsi, then we mass claim. We assure both investigations on top of the claim.

[armlx]

The leader only chooses 1 person to RB, so if they choose not a leader or the receiver (2/3 chance) its all good.

[armlx]

Yeah, I read it like that the first time, but on the second read through to break the set up I saw it wasn't.

[armlx]

No, worst case is a little bit worse then that, but still good.

[armlx]

No, worst case is a little bit worse then that, but still good.

what's the worst case then?

Actually, I just realized its the same as what you said. 1 dead rally role, 1 investigated Tutsi, 1 RB left on the Tutsi leader, 9 others.

[armlx]

General is a 1 shot kill. Rather have a 1 shot cop then a 1 shot vig.

[armlx]

oh yeah, misread it. thought it meant once the game actually started, not one shot. either way, i'd still like the general alive at that point over a rallier

Point is if one rallier dies tonight I'm not sure the other works the following. So if the Leader tries to kill tonight and hits a rallier we lose a cop result the next night and a townie, as opposed to a future vig kill and a townie. Cop shot > vig shot in a nightless game, and usually over all.

[armlx]

1/4th scum in nightless is even odds. The point is for it to end up 8/2/1 which is in town's favor.

[armlx]

Gosh, what don't you all understand about this?

There are only going to be 2 nightkills maximum this game. Read the roles, there's only 2 one shot vig kills. Only one of those is anti-town.

[armlx]

Also, another thing to note is the general should NEVER use his NK. We lose nothing by just lynching instead of NKing, and the general wins an end game vs. 1 Tutsi.

[armlx]

K, remember:

Both rallying roles MUST rally tonight. The general must NOT kill.

Vote No Lynch

[armlx]

No one claims roles tomorrow. The only thing that gets claimed tomorrow is the "investigation" result.

[armlx]

Bah. Well, not really, I kinda expected that.