Mini 573 - Darkstalkers Mafia - Game over!

[armlx]

You are confirmed scum and could be lying, and they won't roam free if Claus is cult b/c he is blocked by Mok again.

[Drunken Piper]

Ok, DP is the right lynch. He could be lying CL. If he shows scum, Claus gets jailkept and stopped from doing anything.

What else will I show?
Do you know?

(sip) Well, at least we know where the jail keeper's action will go.

[armlx]

This is interesting in context of the whole DP-SL thing yesterday as Claus (well RossWilliam) was the one who took a side, but I was wrong about neither being scum of SL-DP.

[Mokina]

I will gladly protect/roleblock Claus tonight... unless we're hoping to vig him.

[Mokina]

Sure, I targeted Alabaska and

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he's still alive

Fixed hehe.

Sorry 'bout that. Names that end in -a confuse me. Hope you don't get that often.

If Drunk Piper is to be believed, we lynch him today and he turns up scum. I roleblock Claus (presumably the cult leader) and he gets lynched tomorrow.

Meanwhile, the scum make two nightkills. Slightly worrisome.

[Dead Rikimaru]

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Lilith

VOTECOUNT #30

Claus

(2): GhostWriter, Drunken Piper

Drunken Piper

(2): armlx, Flameaxe

Flameaxe

(1): Xtoxm

Not voting

(5): springlullaby, gorckat, Claus, Mokina, Alabaska J

Deadline is on

May 30

Needed for a lynch: 6 votes
If by deadline no one has 6 votes the player with more votes is lynched
If two players share the top score of votes lynch is decided by

duel

DEADLINE

14 more days is probably too much time. I'm considering moving the deadline to May 23.
DR

[Flameaxe]

Yeah. There are two different people named Claus.

MOD EDIT: Fixed!

[Mokina]

The cult was contained last night because of OF/Mok, you want the cult to roam free again?

Wait a minute. You are saying Claus is the cult, but also that I contained Alabaska and the cult didn't spread. I'm not sure of DP's motives here, but I am going to look a little closer. Assuming he's scum, he isn't just going to keel over and die like this. This feels terribly, terribly wrong.

Fuck it, may as well just say it at this rate. I'll be dead/culted tonight if I don't.

I'm John Talbain, a cop. No specific faction here, which is why I was still suspect of Alabaska post claim yesterday. I have a guilty on Drunken Piper. I debated leaving some kind of bread crumb somewhere but figured I wasn't a high profile kill for the mafia and could afford to not do that rather then have the scum notice and act on it. I was hoping DP would help fuel my suspicions of Flameaxe in some way as well, but that obviously didn't happen.

I was pretty sure of a mafia based on the ambiguity of my role PM as to what alignment I find (just anti-town, not cult/mafia/sk) and even more so once the info was revealed from Gorckat.

And with that, Unvote, Vote DP. I guess cross-blocking is fine as I can assume both resolve in the same layer.

Picture this hypothetical situation, town. Armlx/DP mafia scumpair. They have both seemed protown all day, okay. You want to know why? Because they are going after the cult, just like everyone else.

But now people are talking about a mafia. So armlx pulls a gambit, calls out his own scumpartner while simultaneously shifting attention towards going for the cult. If we lynch DP and he comes up scum (true in hypothesis), armlx will never have to worry about town suspicion

or

the cult again.

Maybe this is completely wild, but... thoughts?

[armlx]

Meanwhile, the scum make two nightkills. Slightly worrisome.

Assuming both lynches are correct, its a 1 cult, 3 town, 2 mafia scenario maximum, more likely 1 cult, 4 town, 1 mafia as quite frankly 5 scum one of which is a cult is excessive. Both of those are winning situations.

[Claus]

Ok, DP is the right lynch. He could be lying CL. If he shows scum, Claus gets jailkept and stopped from doing anything.

Vote: DP

The cult-cop can always check me or Mokina up tonight.

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The "safe claim" claim of DP is extremely funny:

- He said he had 2 _role_ safeclaims, not _rolename_ safeclaims. Also, the TWO role-safeclaims he said he had are roles that already appeared in the game: those safeclaims are not "safe" at all! (nevermind that the two safeclaims are the roles that have appeared in the game so far!)

I'd expect safeclaims to be main character names who are not in the game, not roleclaims that would tell the mafia which roles are in the game or not.

[Mokina]

Meanwhile, the scum make two nightkills. Slightly worrisome.

Assuming both lynches are correct, its a 1 cult, 3 town, 2 mafia scenario maximum, more likely 1 cult, 4 town, 1 mafia as quite frankly 5 scum one of which is a cult is excessive. Both of those are winning situations.

Reconstructing game... please wait...

The game began with one cult leader, one SK, and two mafia. A single-person mafia is unlikely, what with "informed minority" and all. That's a 4 out of 12 (or 1:2) scum ratio, which seems perfectly acceptable given the fact that the antitowns may war against each other. That leaves 8 townies.

The first night, there was no SK. The cultist was roleblocked by my predecessor (given that there were two mafiosi, a single block wouldn't prevent a kill) but the mafia shot the JoaT.

Great. Now we have a single cultist and two mafia, plus 7 townies. If we lynch the first mafia and the cult is blocked and protected by me... no extra cultists, but the scum make a nightkill. Probably me.

Townie count: 6

We wake up the next morning, scared... but we lynch the cultist anyway.

Night falls. Scum kill. Townie count: 5

We wake up D4 and have no clue where to look, but we sure as hell aren't going to vote for armlx. He's the cop; we gotta protect him! Someone gets lynched.

Night falls. Scum kill. Townie count: 3

Endgame. Armlx comes up with a fake cop result. Scum win.

[Mokina]

Ok, DP is the right lynch. He could be lying CL. If he shows scum, Claus gets jailkept and stopped from doing anything.

Vote: DP

The cult-cop can always check me or Mokina up tonight.

I think Alabaska is the cultist. Not either one of us. I protected/roleblocked him last night and the cult didn't spread, so unless there's another roleblocker out there doing good work for the community, I suspect Alabaska's the one.

Other roleblockers who did stuff last night, please claim. I want to get to the bottom of this.

[armlx]

Your scenario is pretty worst case of me being scum, etc. Obviously when it gets to that point you consider other things (and BTW 3-1 scenario is always a no lynch).

[Claus]

The cultist was roleblocked by my predecessor (given that there were two mafiosi, a single block wouldn't prevent a kill) but the mafia shot the JoaT.

Bzzzt. Wrong.

1- Your predecessor targetted Alabaska. I targetted Alabaska as well.
2- We both said that the mod was ambiguous regarding whether our powers block culthood or not.

IF me OR you are a lying cult leader, the culting was not blocked.
If we're both telling the truth, then the CL is someone else, and we have no information on whether the culting was successful or not.

We wake up the next morning, scared... but we lynch the cultist anyway.

Except that we don't know who the cultist is.

Endgame. Armlx comes up with a fake cop result. Scum win.

I don't think Armlx is a fakecop, not just yet. If us two are the only protective roles (and we both agree not targetting Armlx), Armlx is going to be dead fairly soon. A cop living 3 nights until endgame would be fairly suspect.

[Claus]

(given that there were two mafiosi, a single block wouldn't prevent a kill).

What???

[armlx]

I can agree with not sucking up jailkeeps, I'm pretty useless jailkept anyways.

[Mokina]

Vote: Armlx

Legit townies, please look at my suspicions very carefully. I believe them to be airtight. I cast my vote on armlx today; if he turns up scum, then I will roleblock Alabaska (the cultist) again and Claus can roleblock DP (the other mafioso). Town wins via attrition.

[Claus]

Why is Alabaska the cultist again?

[Claus]

DP-SL thing yesterday as Claus (well RossWilliam) was the one who took a side.

Are you reading it right? I replaced SirT, not RossWilliam.

[Mokina]

Your scenario is pretty worst case of me being scum, etc. Obviously when it gets to that point you consider other things (and BTW 3-1 scenario is always a no lynch).

Sorry. Town no-lynches, and thus finds out nothing. Armlx fakes a guilty result. Scum win.

There's something seriously wrong with DP's martyrdom.

Bzzzt. Wrong.

1- Your predecessor targetted Alabaska. I targetted Alabaska as well.
2- We both said that the mod was ambiguous regarding whether our powers block culthood or not.

IF me OR you are a lying cult leader, the culting was not blocked.

Or if both of us are legit. See? DP's even fooling me. He said:

The cult was contained last night because of OF/Mok, you want the cult to roam free again?

He wouldn't know, unless he's the cult leader (unlikely that he'd pull a suicide move, then). Just more scumpair lies.

I'm sorry, but I'm convinced.

[Mokina]

Why is Alabaska the cultist again?

I'm really sorry. I just read DP's post and he states that I prevented the cult from spreading. I blocked Alabaska. Leads me to the logical conclusion that Alabaska was the cultist, but I forgot about the fact that a self-confirmed mafioso could also be a liar.

[armlx]

DP-SL thing yesterday as Claus (well RossWilliam) was the one who took a side.

Are you reading it right? I replaced SirT, not RossWilliam.

Hmm, I am indeed. Thats even more interesting, if only because I was actually 100% wrong.

[Mokina]

I don't think Armlx is a fakecop, not just yet. If us two are the only protective roles (and we both agree not targetting Armlx), Armlx is going to be dead fairly soon. A cop living 3 nights until endgame would be fairly suspect.

Makes sense. So we go ahead and lynch DP, a definite mafioso in either circumstance... but let it be known I don't trust armlx any more for it. If there's a real cop out there, they should probably investigate him N2.

So far so good.

Unvote, Vote: DP

[armlx]

Hmm, DP may have inadvertently revealed something about one of the jail keeps by saying the mafia had a jailkeep safe claim. Not worth worrying about it now though, something to consider later.

[Flameaxe]

Hmm, DP may have inadvertently revealed something about one of the jail keeps by saying the mafia had a jailkeep safe claim. Not worth worrying about it now though, something to consider later.

This gets BBM's stamp of "HMMMMMM".