Mafia 79 - "The Amish Mafia" GAME OVER... WHO WON?

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/confirm

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Uh, Evilgorillaz, isn't Sabbath on saturdays?

Different religions celebrate the Sabbath on different days. Most have chosen Sunday as the day of rest and worship, but Saturday is used in others as well.

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Original Roll String: 1d20

1 20-Sided Dice: (16) = 16

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RANDOM VOTE:Rigel

Sometimes, you must trust the highest power of them all.

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UNVOTE

VOTE: ValiantValant

I say he's posting too much; almost seems like he's trying to defend himself over every action.

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I guess I just find it funny that there are so many posts from you, while others are quite clearly lurking. I don't think that it's wrong to be highly active (especially if sick), but it seems out of place when it seems like there's more lurking than posting. Should have seen everyone post at least once since we've started.

OOC: Family trauma sucks. Hope it gets better.

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I guess I just find it funny that there are so many posts from [VV], while others are quite clearly lurking. I don't think that it's wrong to be highly active (especially if sick), but it seems out of place when it seems like there's more lurking than posting. Should have seen everyone post at least once since we've started.

Unvote, Vote: Riceballtail

for complaining about VV's talking too much. Attempting to prevent/lessen discussion is scummy. FoS: Mellowed Man for the same reason.

I never intended to prevent discussion, I just wanted discussion to involve more than just four or five people. As you may notice, these posts invoked quite a bit of discussion, so why would I have made such a clearly scum-filled post "Hey, scum-post here, don't talk anymore!", knowing that I would command that much attention, drawing scum-glares?

Yeah, it drew attention. Risky? Quite. Worth it? Gotten a lot of replies from people who were being quite silent before. That's what it wanted to do.

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To me it basically says that he's not going to get involved until there's an opening for him to get involved without looking scummy at all. Anyone agree/disagree with me on that?[/u]

/agree

FoS: Celebloki

Also curious as to Rigel, whom has been quiet (computer trouble is a good excuse, but it didn't really stop me). Still waiting to see something else to make any real judgments though.

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MOD: can we have a vote count please?

Seconded. But I believe L-5 is correct. Also, prodding may be in order for the lurkers.

And actually, too much discussion can sow seeds of doubt amongst the townies.

So does not enough.

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Dear God... Why did I just set myself up like that?

Because you want to get lynched? Taking one for the team no doubt.

UNVOTE

Vote: ZS

Don't worry, we'll see to it that your scum buddies follow shortly.[/b]

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ZS: So long, and thanks for all the wine. Smart townies shouldn't have any need to use a WIFOM in the first place.

Also:

FoS: Mellow

Partly for hammering, partly excuse-lurking.

FoS: Babygirl

Also excuse lurking, although this time in advance.

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By the way, if no one has noticed, Psychatrog confirmed, but has not posted a single post since the game has started...

That is a point. Add to it Killa Seven, whose none confirm post count is an incredible... 1. These lurkers must speak.

And has been active in the last 48 hours in other games... lurking or flaking definitely.

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Backup mod summon time?

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Post 2229 in V/LA states that KScope is on LA until June as well. Boo!

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First: Welcome replacements!

Second:

VOTE: babygirl86

I want to hear some explanation too. Mellowed would be wise to follow suit, especially after the lynch.

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First:

UNVOTE

Mellowed, you're failing at being less scummy than you want to be. I didn't like you D1, considering how much you lurked D1. Then you gave a crap reason for hammering. You even blamed it on your lack of participation!

I do feel contrite that I hammered ZS, I guess my absence led to stupidity, but I am NOT making any pathetic excuses for myself. Furthermore, those accusing me of making up an excuse for not posting can look and see that I had not before today posted in ANY of my ongoing four games in the same amount of time (4 days) as this one, and that I did indeed post in the Vacation/Limited Access Thread the first time I had just a short period of spare time yesterday.

Here you admit not participating, and also failing to make the notification that you were going to be V/LA until the day before you decided to "come back". IMO you've just reached the top of my scum charts. You and BG are taking this to a personal fight, similar to what you seemed to disapprove of BM and Fonz doing. Since you can't make up your mind, we'll help you.

VOTE: Mellowed Man

Also, don't lurk D1, then decide to call others out on lurking D2. It looks really bad.

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Here you admit not participating, and also failing to make the notification that you were going to be V/LA until the day before you decided to "come back". IMO you've just reached the top of my scum charts.

VOTE: Mellowed Man

Also, don't lurk D1, then decide to call others out on lurking D2. It looks really bad.

I was on V/LA during D1, so how is that lurking? I didn't post in any of my games. That's crappy logic there Riceball. FOS for following my wagon, and repeating what everyone's said, except in a paradoxical way.

So it would be legit for everyone to FoS you when you did the same to BG? And it's not that you went V/LA, it's that you did it at the END of your V/LA period. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been a problem.

Also interesting that you have to OMGUS my vote, especially after you did the same to BM. You reek of scum, and it's time for you to go. Too much OMGUS and too much WIFOM.

CONFIRM VOTE: Mellowed Man

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He's been dropping too many WIFOM and OMGUS for me. My vote stays.

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FoS: Celebloki

You just can't wait to get to your night choice now can you?

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Yeah, I probably did reach. I've just been hounded in other games because apparently I "parrot talk" too much, so I wanted to get the first word in to avoid that. So, I may have screwed up, but I was only trying to avoid everyone disregarding my comments because of this supposed trend I've had in posting. Wagon me if you choose, but I already learned from this.

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Checking in, classwork has kept me busy the last few days. Hoping to get a good read soon.

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Incrediball: Are you saying you know of a second doctor role? Would you like to, perhaps, explain how you know?

BM: Stop aggravating the situation, it doesn't look well on your part.

MM: Now that you are off V/LA, which you never seemed to have been on in reality, and not being hammered either, you're quite confident in your claim. Too bad for you I don't buy it.

Alabaska: I understand what you are trying to say, and I do think BM is intentionally pushing people around. Otherwise, last two days are Neutral/Townish

Fonz: Sympathies, as you to must suffer under the BM's mind games. I do think you did a reach on that post, but I also realize that you may not be wrong either. Neutral feelings.

BG: Flaking, not liking it either.

nsw, marmalade, JL, K7, Rigel: Either lurking or flaking. Part of why the game isn't progressing as much.

FoS

for all of you.

Anyone not mentioned above: nothing particularly new to say.

Overall: MM and BM are showing to be quite scummy, and I don't like it. I think MM almost deserves policy LAL, especially saying he wasn't going to have access, then posted more frequently than the rest of the game. I still want to know what happened to VV.

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Hey MM, if you're going to quote me, you mind either quoting ALL of what I posted, or putting the quotes with the proper things they were in reference to?

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Due to RL issues, will be LA for a while.

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After a quick read, still think MM is quite scummy, but too many people want to see him prove by a NK. The flaw I see is that he could do this NK as either a vig, scum (by having a buddy do it, as he may be RBd), or as an SK.

Alabaska is neutral, leaning scum to me right now. Not convinced enough of a lynch though.

Interested to see what Kuribo and Dizzy turn into. I'm still neutral with those two.

BG really seems scummy, and I think she's earned the lynch.

With that

UNVOTE; VOTE: BabyGirl86

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VOTE: MM

LAL. That is all. If he is not lying, then we shall see. But I do not believe it.

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Now that Mellowed Man's on the way, I'm looking pretty hard at Riceballtail. Here's why:

Day 1: He accuses ValiantValant of posting too much, as if he has to defend everything that comes up about them. One, how is posting too much scummy? Two, why shouldn't he have defended everything? Was he supposed to sit there and ignore the accusations, and God knows what misfortune befalls him?

Day 2: Bandwagon much? He gave a very weak reason for voting for BabyGirl86, and it seems like he was backing her into a corner and forcing her out of the game. Bullying bankrupts your credibility if it gets you anywhere at all,

Day 3: His only post is to vote for Mellowed Man because of the lynch-all-liars strategy. Granted, I eventually hammered MM for LAL too, but this is all you have!? Come the heck on!

Vote: Riceballtail

Day1: He posted 5 times in a day. He took a very defensive stance, and I found it scummy when it was very random at that stage of the game.

Day2: I would say that it could easily have been seen as weak reasoning, but I find it frustrating when people act that way. You seem to be picking pretty hard with making that a big case of it. Her play was very scummy, so why do you call my reasoning weak?

Day3:See all my reasoning from D2. There was already a strong case, and I'd pointed it out then. This is a bad justification. D3 didn't have a lot of discussion, it was mostly decided from D2 he was the lynch of the day if there weren't two kills.

VOTE:Coug

, you only have a decent case from D1, and that's still a bit of a reach.

well...

RBT's main antagonists are dead. they are town. one or two of them was nightkilled.

he's been wagoning, and opportunistic.

he's had little input, and next to no defence.

he is scum.

vote RBT.

Yes, my antagonists are dead, I guess I'll just have to fish up some new ones, won't I? Hmm, funny you are pointing this out though. It's quite easy that someone has been doing this to set me up, possibly you?

HoS:Mr.I

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Lol at rbt. that is very unlikely.

Oh, but wouldn't that make quite a nice gambit?

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That's great, but my primary concern with you about Day 3 was your activity. Pop in, vote, pop out. That's all you did.

That was my finals time. I was on LA, so I didn't have much time to make a real elaborate post. Also note how much time the day took in pages, many people only posted once, or not at all. I feel that making me scum from that isn't very considerate of the circumstances.

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RBT's defence is weak. Coug's case is pretty good and I agree with mr. incrediball's assessment. I think a

vote: RBT

is in order.

Explain how so? (PS, I still think you're scum)

Is this to me or Izzy?

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MOD: Can we get some mass-prod action?

nswhorse, Surye, Inquisitor JL, Marmalade, and Sensfan have yet to post today. This game can't move forward much more from here with five people out after almost a week.

As to kuribo, I was referencing the idea as to who you thought was scum, but I'll assume you meant Izzy in that too.

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I agree with Coug's ideals.

Also, I will be inactive most of the next two days (travel) and when I get back I should be able to be off LA. I don't really see any lynch candidates right now, so...

UNVOTE

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VOTE:Marmalade

Page 26 lurker hunt ready go.

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Only voting to get people to post. Unless you're afraid you and your scumbuddies are going to quick-hammer.

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I'm just fairly suspicious as to how all of my enemies/people who found me suspicious are dead, but yet I haven't killed anyone. Him bringing that fact up makes me think he's trying to peg me with the crime, when I haven't done anything.

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I feel so abandoned with this game. It almost makes me want to cry.

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@modkills: I guess it's okay. We can just say today had a super triple lynch spectacular or something. I've never been in this position before, so I can't say I know exactly what to do.

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Sounds like you're worried about your scumbuddies getting modkilled there killa.

FOS:Killa

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Well, I'm trying to actually make some level of discussion.

Thought behind it: he is attempting to say that the two are absolutely going to be town, which I doubt (based on the probability that at least one of the two is scum, which is why I think he's trying to be defensive of them). I could be wrong, but this is my thought. As far as we know, they could both be scum, and he's just attempting to protect them. If they're one of each, it would be a lynch/nk tradeoff for a scum. Either way, there's no way to say what they're roles are unless they get killed.

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CLAIM: Nurse

Protected MM N2, even though I didn't believe it. Figured if he really was a vig, he would have not been so self-destructive to the town.

Protected Kuribo N3. Felt he was pro-town enough to protect.

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Now, I'm no first-class protective role, but I would see it generally wise to protect a un-countered vig claim with a group this size. I could be wrong on that, but I was willing ot take the risk. I'm guessing either everyone wanted BM dead, or I made a successful protection N2.

As for N3, I really just went for someone that I didn't find suspicious at all. Kuribo fit that quite well, and so I chose him.

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That way leads to huge piles of WIFOM, killa seven. Huge piles.

Piles of wine? How would that even work?

Pyramids, I'm guessing. Maybe those fancy wine racks? </notgame>

UNVOTE, VOTE:Coug

One good backstab deserves another...

Sidenote: Today feels as horribly difficult as D1.

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I am also still here. Still suspicious of Coug, but I'm not convinced enough on anyone for a lynch. Did a good analysis, giving town-vibes, but not fully convinced yet. Vote stays for now, may remove if it becomes out of control on the wagon. My top three fall into Mr. I, Coug, and Dizzy. No real order to it, just my top three suspects right now.

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unvote; vote Dizzy

It's time to try and get this game going again...

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This is sadly true. Granted, I've said that already today too.

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Only one NK last night, compared to our seemingly usual two.

I would also like to see something come out of UROE, see what his thoughts are. He did replace at the end of the day, so I can understand wanting to read it through a few times before making any rash posts. It was rather long though...

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Sorry about the long night.

q21, townie, is dead.
The Fonz, townie, is dead.

Day four is go.

That was N3, which occurred after MM was lynched.

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Last night, I had a hard decision, but I went with UROE, I couldn't do Kuribo again.

I protected MM N2, as said before.

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I don't know, there could be another RB too.

I imagine the person who did kill SC was an SK, based on xyzzy's description. I could be wrong though, of course.

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Vote: Surye

D5 lurker hunt gogogo.

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Unvote; Vote: Mr. I

MOD:

Prod Mr. I please.

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Actually,

UNVOTE; VOTE K7

Mr. I has probably disappeared from the site (he doesn't seem to have posted in any threads as of late, so he probably isn't even here to defend himself. K7, however, happens to be frequently posting in other games, and has done a fantastic job of going under the radar so far this game. I get a fairly bad sense of active lurking coming out of him, and I'm beginning to think he's scum because of that.

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Unfortunately, this lurkish style is present in

everybody's play this game

.

Edited to encourage more posting, as I think we all seem to be really neglecting this game.

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Can we lynch K7 now?

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I'm sorry my posting has been pretty sparse lately, I have a whole pile of projects and assignments to hand in which has left me with no time for online recreation. On the weekend (Friday night/Saturday morning) I should be able to catch up properly and respond to what's happened and to anything that's been thrown my way.

Life happens. Just vote K7 and I'll forgive you.

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For one thing, if the modkilled is scum, we can go back to look for connections.

Why are you assuming that the modkilled will be scum? Statistical likelyhood shows he's more likely to be town.

I would be against it too, because if he is town (which I doubt, but) then it could end the game or put us into some other weird situation.

I still think K7 is scum and should be lynched though.

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More votes on K7! DO IT!

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Rice is scum.. wagon hopping, lurker hunting with no scum hunting all game, poor logic (im beeing set up with the nk's the whole game)
Inquiring about NK's (classic sum tell, see tars scum tells)

VOTE RBT

I would like to hear everyone thoughts on rice and my case on him

I think it's an OMGUS because you know I've caught you red-handed scum.

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Any thought on the rice case?

Too little, too late. We shouldn't have to drag you kicking and screaming into playing with us.

FOS: Kuribo

This is scummy beyond belief. He's discarding a well laid out case only on the basis of his previous activity level, rather then on the basis of the argument.

And It's a case I happen to like,

Vote: Rice

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But do you really want to lynch your protective role?

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K7: How do you feel now that you have lost a scumbuddy?

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Sorry, would you rather not have me give up on the fact I find him scum and just let him slide?

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Come on people, has no one got anything to say here.

There are two reasons that K7 is not lynched yet. Either he's scum, or most of the scum are already on his wagon. I'm leaning toward his being scum - since someone else I think is scum (Surye) isn't voting for him.

Thoughts. Discussion. Cries or ridicule. Anything?

I think this could be a very likely position.

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I still stand by my K7 is scum theory.

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Sounds like a whiny scum got himself a lynch.

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Sounds like a whiny scum got himself a lynch.

How old are you.

Old enough to use proper grammar and spelling when I type.

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Ironically, it's true.

And yes, we did try to kill you last night.

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Also, were the remainder of you all vanillas?

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Yeah, for most of the game I was the one who sent in the kills.

We killed Korts N1, BM N2, Q21 N3, K7 N4.

With JL and Mr.I MIA about half the game, there wasn't a whole lot of discussion to be had about who to kill, so I just tried to get whoever I figured was the cop. Seems we got the only three power roles quickly enough though.