Talitha:
Talitha [641] wrote:<snip>
Emp: I just read your post 633 again. Can you explain why you think that Darkdude could be mafia with Cephrir, but not with Cephrir & Akonas?
Oh - nevermind, I think I see it now.
My opinion is that darkdude is scum... but IF he turns out to be innocent I'll be looking closely at Akonas. So I think I get where Emp is coming from.
Yes- it’s the specific combination of Cephrir/Akonas/darkdude that just doesn’t seem to work. Look at the last 3 votecounts, look at the votes. *Everyone* else has been consistently voting for 1 of those 3. *Someone* should be getting desperate. Akonas in particular I can’t imagine would be distancing himself from *both* of his comafia’s wagons when there isn’t any other third option. The thing VoD picked up on in [645] is interesting in this light also. (This is incidentally also why I wanted to take a closer look at the VoD wagon, and I suppose also the zeddicus lurkerwagon. Need more data.)
So I could accept either Cephrir/Akonas or Cephrir/darkdude, but I have a hard time with borh. Maybe Occam’s Razor, and they’re just circling the drain- but I’ll wait until 2/3 are confirmed before further speculating that all 3 are mafia. For now, though, three’s no reason to guess about Akonas and darkdude when I feel most confident about Cephrir.
(If Cephrir isn’t being lynched today, then darkdude, being second-most suspicious independently of Cephrir, is my next target. But I’m honestly increasingly having second thoughts about him. And I am not ready to give up on Cephrir yet.)
Cephrir:
Cephrir [636] wrote:Emp wrote:I don’t have anything I’m close to certain about
darkdude- honestly, I’m skeptical of him being with Cephrir/Akonas, which is the primary reason I’m hesitating against him right now.
If you're not certain about anything, why would you not be suspicious of dd because you don't think he's scum with me? Basing arguments on pairings when no scum are dead is not helpful.
You're also wrong, but I may as well give up on convincing you on that, apparently, since you and PP don't seem to feel like listening to reason.
You might understand me better if you don’t take my phrases out of context. VoD asked me for possibilities regarding pairings, so I gave him some. Which I prefaced by saying:
EmpTyger [633] wrote:To be perfectly honest, right now I don’t feel like doing hypotheticals multiple steps deep. I don’t have anything I’m close to certain about, and there’s a lot more possibilities than impossibilities at this point. But, some thoughts:
Temporarily assuming<snip>
I’m not voting based on pairings- you’re my top suspect independently. I wouldn’t vote darkdude under the assumption that you are guilty and Akonas innocent any more than I would vote Akonas under the assumption that you are guilty and darkdude innocent.
I *am* suspicious of darkdude, independently of you. But I’m more suspicious of *you*. So I’m starting there.
darkdude:
I think you’re correct that QF kind of overreacted to your thing on Talitha- but I think you’re more overreacting to her overreaction. However…
QF:
…taking a closer look at you, now. You don’t seem to be particularly suspicious of anyone other than darkdude, yet you’re not voting him. Is there anyone else? If not, why are you refraining from voting?