Mini 573 - Darkstalkers Mafia - Game over!

[armlx]

If you find the omission in itself to be suspicious, surely there was no reason to ask his rank at all since the omission was already there?

Rather ask and force the slip up rather than let him later say "You never asked me it, didn't think it was relevant" when it is argued against him later.

Also, I think your argument about the information being used to inform decisions against him is pretty bad. That is, unless you have information about those actions that would say otherwise...

[Dead Rikimaru]

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Morrigan

VOTECOUNT #16

Alabaska J

(2) - armlx, Flameaxe

Drunken Piper

(1) - RossWilliam

DeanWinchester

(1) - Rogueben

GhostWriter

(1) - Alabaska J

Not voting

(7): DeanWinchester, GhostWriter, Claus, Drunken Piper, gorckat, ooba, springlullaby

Deadline is on

(April 8, one week after) APRIL FOOLS' DAY

Needed to lynch a fool: 7 votes
If by deadline no one has 7 votes the fool is the player with more votes
If two fools share the top score of votes the foolest among them is decided by

duel

IMPORTANT!!!!!

Mod, it'd probably just be easier and better for the game, to get a replacement for him. This isn't the first time, it's not the first game, he'll just come back and play it all the same. oOo... I rhymed too!

Who? DeanWinchester or RossWilliam?
DR

[Rogueben]

DeanWinchester is the biggest culprit. Ross probably needs a prod at this point though.

[GhostWriter]

Well, considering I read up a bit on Darkstalkers, had Al been allowed to say his rank, and said rank been correct, he would be safe, according to the logical ranks system. Morrigan is an S-class. Who can mess with that? I was hoping for a slip involving him saying the lower rank of his "true" role (assuming he was lying) , which I would have jumped on with a link to a site telling you that Morrigan is an S-class character. Of course, this was all hinging on a hope that he did not know much about the game or the character, at least not enough to accurately state the rank.

Mod: I was referring to Dean. I don't know about Ross, or his playstyle.

[Claus]

I think there is only one reason to be interested in someone's rank, and that is to know if one's power would work on them. And the odds of such powers being

against them

is pretty high.

What do you think?

I think that if Alabaster is the SK cop, his power works on only one person - the SK. So it probably DOES work, regardless of rank. So the theory that armix would ask alabaska his rank to know whether or not he would "be vulnerable" to him is kinda pointless.

That said, I don't think Alabaska (or anyone else) should talk about their ranks freely.

[Claus]

You don't like my reaction to it?

Yeah. It felt kinda wrong, mainly the "Dimitri looks more like an Cult Leader than an SK". So you unvote per claim, but you still say that the claim looks wrong, and he is still scummy. This is pinged my scumdar a little.

Since I didn't FoS you or anything else, my scumdar had pinged just a little at the time.

I would like a good reason, and I suggest you think carefully about, in particular how it makes me more likely to be scum given his claim

While THIS reaction is much more interesting. Does it bother you that people are looking at your behavior? I don't like your overreaction. "Think carefully about it?" lol.

vote: Rogueben

Have you read the wikipedea articles on each of those characters?

No, I only read the article for my own role. I played Darkstalkers a little a long time ago, and I remember Morrigan being one of the main characters, and Dimitri being one of the main villains.

[armlx]

Claus: I think he was insinuating my asking for his rank was me fishing to see if I could use a hypothetical power on him.

I also agree freely talking about ranks is bad, but this scenario was hardly talking freely. In retrospect if I had not specifically asked about the thing his claim was missing (rank) he would have been more likely to slip up, but at the time I was much more worried about him trying to slip back out of a slip up by claiming he had never been asked about it.

[Rogueben]

Yeah. It felt kinda wrong, mainly the "Dimitri looks more like an Cult Leader than an SK". So you unvote per claim, but you still say that the claim looks wrong, and he is still scummy. This is pinged my scumdar a little.

I think that most likely in this game Alabaska is, in fact, the SKcop and that Demetri would be a SK. This is based off his claim, which I find to be believable.

However, when I was reading the article about Demetri it did pique my interest that his character bit people and took control of them. That sounded, flavor wise, more like a cult-leader than a SK. That being said, in a mini game, I think it would be pretty unbalanced to have a cult along with a mafia group, and find it unlikely that there would actually be one.

While THIS reaction is much more interesting. Does it bother you that people are looking at your behavior? I don't like your overreaction. "Think carefully about it?" lol.

There is a specific reason why I said that, I thought that you couldn't have any reason for that post to actually be conceived by scum.

1. How would it help mafia to jump off a claimed SKcop?
2. If I was SK, how would it help me to jump off a claimed SKcop?

Can you see where I'm coming from here. I don't like people saying something is scummy without having a plausible reason for why scum would do it.

Did you read the thread in MD about that?

That is why I said that you should think about it carefully before proclaiming it to be scummy.

[Alabaska J]

:/ I was under the impression we weren't supposed to talk about ranks. Dead Rikimaru said something I thought…lemme look.

[springlullaby]

Who can mess with that? I was hoping for a slip involving him saying the lower rank of his "true" role (assuming he was lying) , which I would have jumped on with a link to a site telling you that Morrigan is an S-class character.

GW, link please.

Claus: I think he was insinuating my asking for his rank was me fishing to see if I could use a hypothetical power on him.

I also agree freely talking about ranks is bad, but this scenario was hardly talking freely. In retrospect if I had not specifically asked about the thing his claim was missing (rank) he would have been more likely to slip up, but at the time I was much more worried about him trying to slip back out of a slip up by claiming he had never been asked about it.

armlx, I wasn't implying anything, I stated it quite clearly.

What are ranks?

Ranks represent different levels of power among darkstalkers.

Some abilities may not work against higher class characters (explained in the role pm).

Ranks in the game are B-Class (lower), A-Class and S-Class (higher). Only darkstalkers have ranks.

Tell me, what other informations need I know 'about those actions'?

[GhostWriter]

Who can mess with that? I was hoping for a slip involving him saying the lower rank of his "true" role (assuming he was lying) , which I would have jumped on with a link to a site telling you that Morrigan is an S-class character.

GW, link please.

Hope you don't mind, but I fixed your quote while putting it in here. As for the link, click here.

[armlx]

Claus: I think he was insinuating my asking for his rank was me fishing to see if I could use a hypothetical power on him.

I also agree freely talking about ranks is bad, but this scenario was hardly talking freely. In retrospect if I had not specifically asked about the thing his claim was missing (rank) he would have been more likely to slip up, but at the time I was much more worried about him trying to slip back out of a slip up by claiming he had never been asked about it.

armlx, I wasn't implying anything, I stated it quite clearly.

You were implying something: that I had a negative action that depended on his rank. I never disagreed that actions could depend on his rank, just said that there was no evidence to support that negative actions were affected this way more than potential beneficial actions or at all (note: I define beneficial as any pro-town action on him, including vig/rb's).

Tell me, what other informations need I know 'about those actions'?

Also, is there any reason you care to dig for role information here?

[Dead Rikimaru]

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Huitzil

VOTECOUNT #17

Alabaska J

(2) - armlx, Flameaxe

Drunken Piper

(1) - RossWilliam

DeanWinchester

(1) - Rogueben

GhostWriter

(1) - Alabaska J

Rogueben

(1) - Claus

Not voting

(6): DeanWinchester, GhostWriter, Drunken Piper, gorckat, ooba, springlullaby

Deadline is on

(April 8, one week after) APRIL FOOLS' DAY

Needed to lynch a fool: 7 votes
If by deadline no one has 7 votes the fool is the player with more votes
If two fools share the top score of votes the foolest among them is decided by

duel

IMPORTANT!!!!!

Prods sent to DeanWinchester and RossWilliam.
DR

[Alabaska J]

Do people still want rank info? I have that plus something possibly extra that deals with my rank. What is the general consensus? Should I talk about it? I know armlx wanted me to.

[armlx]

IDK at this point. The whole point of my asking was to instigate a slip up, which has been negated.

[Drunken Piper]

no need to discuss rank, but I understand why armix mentioned it.

Mod, if we need replacements can you push back the deadline a bit?

[Dead Rikimaru]

no need to discuss rank, but I understand why armix mentioned it.

Mod, if we need replacements can you push back the deadline a bit?

The lack of rhymes amuses me.

I'm inclined to

NOT

expanding the deadline.

A long Day 1 will make the game lag.
Players will lose interest and soon we will need more replacements, and even more deadline extensions.

I say players should vote who they want lynched now. On deadline the vote leader dies.

Feel free to discuss.

[springlullaby]

What are ranks?

Ranks represent different levels of power among darkstalkers. Some abilities may not work against higher class characters (explained in the role pm).
Ranks in the game are B-Class (lower), A-Class and S-Class (higher). Only darkstalkers have ranks.

Tell me, what other informations need I know 'about those actions'?

Also, is there any reason you care to dig for role information here?

This was in response to:

Also, I think your argument about the information being used to inform decisions against him is pretty bad.

That is, unless you have information about those actions that would say otherwise...

So yeah, pot, kettle.
I'm still not convinced your intention for asking AJ his rank, especially with the way you worded the question - like an afterthought. You should know better.

Vote Drunken Piper

I don't want an Alabaska lynch. I'd prefer a duel at the very least.

[armlx]

Not really. My post was implying you had info that scum actions were affected by the target's rank aka you were scum.

Also, as an afterthought? I looked at my role, realized what was missing from his claim, and asked.

[gorckat]

1. How would it help mafia to jump off a claimed SKcop?
2. If I was SK, how would it help me to jump off a claimed SKcop?

Claus: Do you have answers for these questions?

[armlx]

Bump, with deadline soon and all. I also don't think DP is at all a good lynch choice today and should not even be in the duel.

[Dead Rikimaru]

Xtoxm replaces DW.
Thank you very much, Xtoxm.

More prods will be sent tomorrow.

[Dead Rikimaru]

OpposedForce replaces RW.
Thank you very much, OpposedForce.

[Claus]

Hey, Xtomx! Cool!

[Claus]

1. How would it help mafia to jump off a claimed SKcop?
2. If I was SK, how would it help me to jump off a claimed SKcop?

Claus: Do you have answers for these questions?

Sure. But what does this has to do with the fact that Rogueben overreacted to a minor fos of mine? I think he is a better lynch than Alabaska (and much better than DP).

I would go for a DeanWinchester lynch as well, but I'll wait for the opinion of the replacees.