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AngryPidgeon Glenn Peck
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I finally decided to dip into ranked after farming the arena for packs a little bit.
Im 7-0 in ranked with my priest deck so far. Step aside bitches.
2xPower Word:Shield (+2 HP to minion, +1 card)
2x Northshire Cleric (1/3, Card when minion healed)
1 Worgen Infiltrator (2/1 stealth)
2x Shadow Word: Pain (Kill <=3 attack minion)
2x Acidic Swamp Ooze (3/2, destroy enemies weapon on entry)
2x Amani Berserker (2/3, +3 atk when enraged)
2x Faerie Dragon (3/2, untargetable)
2x Shadow Word Death (Kill >= 5 atk minion)
1x Acolyte of pain (1/3, +1 card when damaged)
1x Raging Worgen (3/3, + windfury and 2 atk when enraged)
2x Gnomish Inventor (2/4, draw a card on entry)
1x Light spawn (*/5, atk = current hp)
2x Sen'jin Shieldmaster (3/5, taunt)
2x holy Nova (deal 2 to all enemies, heal 2 all allies)
2x Gurubashi Berserker (2/7, +3 atk whenever damaged)
1x Stranglethorn Tiger (5/5, stealth)
2x Lord of the Arena (6/5 taunt)
1x Prophet Velen (7/7, doubles spell effects from your hero)
1x Stormwind Champion (6/6, all allies +1/+1)
1x MindControl (gain control of an enemy minion)
Going for 8 : P-
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AngryPidgeon Glenn Peck
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Meh well win 7 sling-shotted me to 20. This game is looking like a win I should hit 19 after my 8-0 : PIn post 407, Venmar wrote:Level 25-20 is a joke anyways.-
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AngryPidgeon Glenn Peck
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Does anyone know how the packs work? I have no idea if there is any concept of rarity in this game (Im sure there is).
Is it possible to get more than 2 copies of a card (which would be useless)?
Can some cards only be acquired through crafting?
Do pack distributions guarantee a certain amount of rarities per pack?
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AngryPidgeon Glenn Peck
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AngryPidgeon Glenn Peck
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In post 831, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Knife juggler is such a counter to leeroy D:
Not really. Its just extremely lolzy when it actually works out that way.
In a 100% ideal scenario, you still have only a 25% chance of killing him with it.-
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In post 871, AGar wrote:The first rule of arena is you don't play arena.
The second rule of arena is you don't. play. arena.
The third rule is mage.
Disagree?
Arena is excellent if you know what you are doing.
And mage is pretty weak in it ime.-
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In post 886, AGar wrote:Arena is dumb. It's a half-assed limited format that is pointless because it's not really a format and instead RNG. Anytime you completely disregard the rules you've set for deckbuilding (more than 2x of a card allowed in arena), you're doing something wrong.
-shrug-, I like it as a format, but I might be biased because Im averaging 5 wins per run.
Im mainly doing it to farm cards though.-
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In post 888, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:I think paladin is best in arena
My tierlist in arena looks something like
God Tier:
Hunter, Paladin
Good Tier:
Druid, Shaman
Meh Tier:
Warlock, Priest
Garbáge Tier:
Mage, Rogue, Warrior-
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AngryPidgeon Glenn Peck
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New Priest deck is doing a lot of work for me in ranked. Grew 5 ranks.
2 Circle of Healing
2 Northshire Cleric
2 Zombie Chow
2 PW:S
2 SW:P
1 Ironbeak owl (I cant NOT run this card srsly)
1 Mad Bomber (cause I do want to blow something up)
1 SW:D
2 Thoughtsteal
1 Dark Cultist
2 Injured BM
1 Shadow Madness
2 Auchenai Priest
1 Defender of Argus
1 Faceless Manipulator
1 Loatheb
1 Sludge Belcher
1 Temple Enforcer
1 Prophet Velen
1 KT
1 Ysera
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So far ysera has been my most effective endgamer. I don't think I actually have a cabal priest... I could craft one to try it out though.
I'd probably swap kt for rag if I had rag.
I agree Kt is situational, he does better here than my other attempts at running him. Lots of persistence and control to build up to him.
I think shadow word pain is solid. Generally efficient card for card trade.-
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I fought Kripp last night in arena. I should have taken a screenshot, but I forgot. I didn't even notice who I was playing against until the 2nd to last turn or so and then I signed on to his stream right after to verify it was him. I knocked him out of his arena run, hehehe. He was playing prkiest and I played pally. When I signed onto his stream he was QQign about Truesilverchampions and was probably QQing about my double Follow ze Rules and Humility drop.-
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AP's Arena Guide
I have 671 wins in arena. I play more arena than normal play. I can float arena runs for literally an entire day of play by earning enough to requeue again over and over. I'm writing this to try and get my thoughts out.
Why should I play arena?
Because its the best way to farm cards if you know what you are doing. It doesn't require a budget to do well in - everyone is on the same footing. Also...its fun! You get to improvise on the fly and come up with new strategies as you play.
Ok, thats great! Now what do I need to draft to go 12-0?
First things first: arena is a grab bag. While there are good heuristics to live by and some science to apply, there will be a fair amount of luck in arena. Some drafts will be bad and there is nothing that can stop that. Sometimes you will get a good draft and get curbstomped by Ragnaros or a Mind Control Tech. When something goes wrong, take the time to consider the source. Was it just a bad draft? Was your deck's mana curve off? Did you play into one of your opponent's removals? Most importantly ,don't get discouraged. Take your time when making plays. Consider all the options - sometimes the correct play or draft is not the obvious one.
I spent my150 coins$1.99 and I'm faced with my first choice!; What hero do I pick?
There are a few running theories on this. Trump will tell you that no class in particular is the best, barring potentially hunter. I believe it was Kripp who recently endorsed warlock in part due to the value you can get off of Voidcallers. I know Trump also demonstrated this in that linked video.
I am of the opinion that hunter is the best bet for arena. Its certainly not the end-all pick.
Best Picks:Hunter, Mage
Solid Picks:Warlock, Paladin
Ok Picks:Shaman, Priest+, Druid
Avoid:Warrior, Rogue
I marked priest with a + because I think it should fall a little above the rest of the Ok picks. I would probably take it over Shaman or druid.
What do I draft?
First we need to discuss strategy. Certain combos and builds are unlikely to impossible to get in arena, so it demands a certain style of play coming into it. Arena is all about board control. Trump likes to talk about value in arena and has said its really a display of who gets the most value out of their cards, and that rush decks are impossible to build reliably. I only partially agree with this. Rush decks certainly are possible in arena, especially since 2-drops are generally solid picks regardless. Hunters and Warlocks can get away with rush strategies due to the natures of their hero powers. Warlocks continuously draw even if out of cards and Hunters can often eek a win out against opponents even after you've thrown all your cards away on early damage and control.
In general, you want a curve of roughly:
8-10 turn 1-2 drops.
5-6 turn 3 drops.
4-5 turn 4 drops.
3-4 turn 5 drops.
The rest should be spread above that. This is VERY rough. Depending on your class and picks, you can build around this.
Ok tell me already, what picks are strong?
I'll go over cards that are strong picks regardless of your Hero or any other drafts.
Cost 1: Zombie Chow, Abusive Sergeant, Argent Squire, Worgen Infiltrator. These are by far the best turn 1 picks. All of these have some form of permanence that prevents them from getting removed by Mage hero powers immediately and they can offer some favorable trades into higher cost cards. The only exception is abusive sergeant which is NOT to be played on turn 1. It is to be played when it allows you to trade an existing minion up. Honorable mention to Elven Archer which I think is undervalued by a lot of good players. Note that you should never play this except to finish killing something off (never play it on an empty board).
Beware, Undertaker is really not that great in arena. You will not reliably get enough deathrattles to make it reliable; draft it at your own risk or if you already have a huge stack of deathrattles. Young priestess is also a moderately trap pick as is anything with 1 HP that you can drop on turn 1.
Cost 2: Swamp Ooze, Knife Juggler, Mad Bomber, Haunted Creeper. 2 drops should be your bread and butter picks for the most part. You want more 2 drops than any other cost in your deck. In general, any card that is 2/3 or 3/2 is passably good in this group. Honorable mention goes out to bloodsail raider if you have a hero with weapons or Mad Scientist if you have secrets. I know I have heard some pros advise against the scientist, but I recommend it for the most part. The only time I would not take one is if there is a significant lack of secrets in my deck at the halfway point of drafting.
Avoid Ancient Watcher, Kobold Geomancer, Master Swordsmith, Nerubian Egg (unless you have several ways of activating it already).
Cost 3: Harvest Golem, Shattered Sun Cleric, Scarlet Crusader, Shade of Naxxramas. After 2 drops, these should be the majority of your deck. Ideally, you want to have control of the board from the get-go and turn 3 is a really pivotal turn. After turn 3 is when really big/sturdy minions will come flying out. It is important to play cards at this stage that will assure you have control of the board come turn 4. Harvest Golem is part of the holy trinity of arena draft picks, next to Boulderfist Ogre and Chillwind Yeti. Special shoutouts to Arcane Golem and Wolfrider in this tier. They can be very useful removal in a pinch and work well in rush decks. Be careful not to drop Arcane Golem unless you really need to or it is turn 7+ already.
Questing adventurer is an OK pick, but not fantastic. More often than not, it will draw removal. Mind Control Tech is a fairly good pick and can single handedly swing games in your favor if it gets a lucky steal. Acolyte of Pain gets an honorable mention, but is often not a strong drop on turn 3 depending on the game state. Use it only if your opponent has no clear way to one-shot it on the board.
Cost 4: Chillwind Yeti, Dark Iron Dwarf, Senjin Shield Masta, Spellbreaker. Not too much to say about this tier. I would generally avoid picking Dragonling Mechanic or Mogushan Warden since all the other 4-drops are very good. Dread corsair is bad too unless you have multiple weapons. Avoid ancient mage too. Gross.
Cost 5: Generally you want big stats at this stage. I personally think Venture Co Mercenary may be the singular best card in arena since it can immediately put a timer on how quickly you can get to lethal damage if your opponent does nothing to slow it down. It will either draw hard removal, eat through some taunters favorably, or deal lots of damage to your opponents face. The drawback of it is really not that bad given the tempo swing it provides you at the point in the game where you really want to capitalize on board advantage. Goblin Auctuioneer is really not that great unless you are running paladin or rogue (dont run rogue).
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What does each class bring to the table?
Hunter: Hunters are in a unique position in arena. Steady shot provides a reliable way to close out games. More than any other class, Hunters can send damage to the face over the course of the game and worry less about maintaining permanent board control. I have won several games with Explosive Trap and Steady Shot finishes while my opponent has out multiple scary monsters. All the hunter weapons are very strong picks. Animal Companion and Savannah Highmane are the 2 best cards for Hunters. The overall strategy for hunters should be to establish a strong early presence and finish the game quickly. Freezing and Explosive traps are good picks, ESPECIALLY if you have Mad Scientists. I tend to dislike deadly shot purely because of the randomness. Unleash the hounds is a fairly strong pick as well, and combos great with Cult Master.
Priests are the most difficult matchup for hunters. Try to retain board control and make favorable trades longer against priests as they can use their hero power to win in the long run if you burn out too quickly by aiming for the face. Similarly, avoid setting up too heavily against mages and paladins. Their options for board clearing are very strong.
Mages: This is probably the easiest class to pick up if you are just learning the arena meta. Frostbolts, Flamestrikes, and Fireballs are all strong picks. These make for strong removal as well as strong finishes. Water Elemental is the other core pick. It is the one card that can give Chillwind Yeti a run for its money as a strong turn 4 drop based on stats alone. Mages are all about control. Fireblast makes trades really favorable and you can often go card for card at an advantage with other players. Try to maintain a card advantage at all times. If you can pick something off with your hero power, that is often the best course of action unless there is a really big threat that needs to be addressed. Frost Nova, Ice Block, and the low cost spells are generally not very strong picks here. They are usually too situational to be worth it all the time.
Paladin: Paladins are a very strong pick in arena. Truesilver Champion is the single best pick for Paladins. The removal will clear your opponents board reliably on turn 4/5 and provides bonus value in the form of healing. Consecration is another obvious strong pick for board control. The only seriously shaky picks for pally are Eye for an Eye, Holy Light and Repentance. Blessing of Wisdom has a fair amount of value in arena. It is soft-removal for your opponents minions as it forces them to let you draw cards or not attack. Don't play it when your opponent can simply trade their monster away for reasonable value. You want to draw a couple cards with it if possible. The lack of reliable removal makes it fairly worth it for one mana. Humility and Follow ze Rules are amazing picks (although I don't know if I'd go more than 1 humility). The Peacekeeper, however, is so good I'd pick it over almost anything. The soft-removal from these spells is insanely valuable. Humility makes a VERY strong play into boulderfist ogre or war golem. Its also the one thing that makes Venture Co Mercenary a little risky of a play. I also love Argent Protector in this group since it can allow you to make a favorable trade and keep a minion alive in the process.
You can get away with having a little bit less 2 drops in your deck because your hero power supplements that a bit. If you have a choice between playing a turn 2 card from your hand, and simply using your hero power, consider only using the power. There will be some cases where you need the bigger play to get board dominance, but many times it is advisable to just take the free 1/1 and save your hand for later. I tend to like buffs in paladin arena since you have an endless supply of 1/1s to make trades with. Pallys have class cards they can use for this but Abusive Sergeant, Dark Iron Dwarf, and Defender of Argus are even better picks as Pally. As pally, you are playing the value game. Paladin has plenty of ways to remove minions (even though some of them are soft ways to do it). Try to keep one good sweeper out at all times and focus on clearing your opponents board. Be careful not to overextend where Mind control Techs, Flamestrikes, and Lightning Storms take out everything you have.
Warlocks: Warlocks primarily offer a lot of decent removal in Soulfire and Mortal Coil and some value plays with Infernal and Voidcaller. If you can manage to draft multiple Voidcallers and other demons, then Voidcaller becomes an extremely strong play. Getting an infernal out with it on turn 5 demands immediate removal as it can easily sweep the game. Avoid corruption, Sacrificial Pact, and anything that makes you lose resources that doesn't have 'Soulfire' in its name. The primary strength of warlocks is their hero power which lets them make aggressive early plays and not worry about overextending quite as much as other classes. Bring some healing with you. Earthen Ring Farseer and Molten Giants are honorable mention for warlock drafts.
Hunters are the worst matchup for warlocks. Be very careful not to get to the point where they can burst you down early and then slowly steady shot you to death. Play defensive against them early if you since they are being aggro.
Priests: Dark cultist. Priests don't offer reliably good burst damage, so you want to work to maintain card advantage over the entire game. I find that liberal use of your hero power when it can save a minion or force your opponent to play an additional card is huge. More often than not, you will want to avoid going directly for the face and instead chip away at your opponents board, using your heal to keep minions alive. The goal is to play the long game, running your opponent out of cards, or finally creeping board dominance until they have no answer for your field. High HP minions have more value in priest than anywhere else (hello 2/7 Turtle, Im looking at you). Priest is fairly strong with the Dark cultist and Lightspawn options. Dark cultist is the only card in the game that can give Golem a run for its money in value as a 3 drop. Lightspawn is a solid card for similar reasons, although not quite as strong as cultist. Temple Enforcer is insanely useful and is a better 6 drop than boulderfist ogre, most of the time. Try to avoid gimmicky picks like Inner Fire and Divine Spirit which will more often than not, make you wish you drafted something actually playable. Also don't draft Shadow Form unless you are Kripp or you want to lose.
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General Tips
Take your time. Fully think out all options.
Pick cards that are standalone good, combos are hard.
Don't overextend. Any class with AoE removal is going to draft it over anything else, 10 times out of 10. If you already have board advantage, you don't need to risk losing card advantage by throwing more cards down.
Always stop and ask yourself if you have lethal damage on your opponent or if you can put them within lethal range by the end of your turn. Around turn 5 or 6, you need to start asking yourself this every turn. Also ask yourself if you can get there by sacrificing board control. Sometimes you have to switch from controlling to throwing the kitchen sink at your opponents face if you are starting to lose advantage.
When in doubt, draft that 2/3 or 3/2 minion that costs 2 mana. ESPECIALLY if it has "Mad" or "Bomber" in its name.
Pray to the RNGesus.
Never play a minion that your opponent can 1-shot with a hero power onto an empty board. If you are playing Young Priestess T1 into a druid/mage/rogue, you fully deserve the loss that is coming to you.
Don't play rogue.
Draft all the Animal Companions that blizzard will let you carry. 4/4 taunters on turn 3 are basically a free win.-
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The main issue with the rogue hero power is the face damage. Against mages and hunters, you have to constantly worry that they are going to just throw everything at your face and win by turn 8. SI:7 is a good card, but its rare so you won't be getting more than 2 on a GOOD draft.
The only common that gets great value is Defias Ringleader, and the 2/1 off of that is Fireblast/Shapeshift/SilverhandRecruit bait. It requires a combo and there are already a plethora of good neutral 2-drops though. I think the Anubar Ambusher is potentially extremely underrated. I dont think Ive ever seen one played in arena which is funny because its probably passably good here.-
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I decided it was time to get a more serious ladder deck since most of my decks are either halfway complete or zoolock.
Made aggro hunter with a little weird list cause Im missing a couple cards (notably a 2nd bow)
2 Hunters Mark
2 Undertaker
2 Leper Gnome
2 Webspinner
2 Flare (oh god I flared a mage's iceblock after top decking it when I was for sure going to lose and after he gave me a "sorry" for playing the block, so satisfying)
2 Haunted Spider
2 Mad Scientist
2 Freezing Trap
1 Explosive Trap
2 Unleash
2 Huffer
2 Kill Command
1 Eaglehorn Bow
2 BeastMaster
2 Cult Master
1 Loatheb
1 Venture Co Mercenary
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Absolutely zero regrets on the Venture Co Mercenary slot.
Especially in one game where a rogue coined out a Deathlord on turn 2 to stop my Undertaker. On his 3rd turn, he ran his deathlord into my undertaker to kill both of them and my venture co mercenary came flying out. That was the easiest win ever.-
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In post 1202, theelkspeaks wrote:In post 1201, AngryPidgeon wrote:My extremely official prediction is madder bomber will be in its own top tier in arena.
Mad Bomber is hard enough to use. Madder Bomber is just going to be utter chaos.
Actually there wre recent stats posted on reddit indicating that Mad Bomber appears proportionately more in 12 win arena decks than any other card.-
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Spoiler: Legend rank ^^
Decklist was similar to last one, but a little different.
2x Mortal Coil
2x Power Overwhelming
2x Undertaker
2x Abusive Sergeant
1x Zombie Chow
2x Haunted Creeper
2x Knife Juggler
2x Sunfury Protector
2x Nerubian Egg
1x Ironbeak Owl
1x Void Terror
1x Hellfire
2x Voidcaller
1x SpellBreaker
1x Defender of Argus
1x Loatheb
1x Doomguard
1x Sludge Belcher
1x Dread Infernal
1x Sylvanas
1x Jaraxxus, Eredar lord of the burning legion.
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Rank 5-1 seems to be 80% AggroHunter/ControlWarrior/Priest. Priest is either deathrattle/undertaker or just control. Control is a bit more common.
Ramp druid gets played occasionally. Everything else is rare.
My final decklist catered quite a bit to the aggro hunter decks. The spellbreaker and owl were largely included for using on Mad Scientist drops because hunters getting a free trap is a really difficult tempo swing to fight against, especially since my deck counts on constant board control to stay alive. Its not just hunters though. Against warrior, acolytes of pain are really good targets for silence as are occasional belchers and armorsmiths. Against priest, its not quite as useful. It did actually save me from a Sylvanas drop from sjow though. Speaking of sjow, I fought him twice. I had PRECISE lethal in both games I played him. The last one I was one turn from losing and I top decked a power overwhelming for exact lethal.
Priest was my hardest matchup I think. Its possible I just haven't figure out how to play around them. Getting board cleared by Auchenai Circles is just hilarious and they have it every single time. Losing tempo around T4 when I need to start transitioning to big drops just really hurts.
Control warrior was a bit 50/50 at first, but my final decklist seemed to just steamroll warriors. Dropping a Spiderr/Egg often seemed to lure out either an Acolyte or Armorsmith drop which I'd promptly dispose of with an Abusive/PowerOverwhelming. I found that warriors will have a Fiery war Axe in their hand 90+% of the time, but dropping undertaker or Chow on T1 didn't really seem to slow me down much despite that. The main card to play around is brawl, I found its often best to sit on some of my smaller minions and waste mana if I already have board control. Losing all of my small drops was bad when it happened. Sunfury protector is actually a hero here. Giving 1/1 spiderlings (or other tiny minions) taunt, protected things like Jugglers from warrior weapons and forced them to get really low value off of their attacks.
Hunter is an annoying bullshit thing to fight against and madscientist needs to get the shit nerfed out of it. Mortal coils are in the deck 70% for just this matchup. Being able to snipe leper gnomes gives me a boner each and every time I do it. Silences for undertaker (or more importantly, the fucking freezing trap scientist) are necessary because getting your one minion frozen costs enough tempo that you probably lose if it happens. Taunt walls need to be up all the time, every time. This matchup feels like a coin toss and basically just comes down to how good our opening hands are.
Druid/Shaman. My combined winrate against these occasional appearances is > 90%, I dont think thats an exaggeration. Im not sure why, but it is.-
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In post 1357, hasdgfas wrote:In post 1356, zoraster wrote:i'm kind of upset that a game that has as much depth as it does has so little in the way of built in statistics. what a missed opportunity.
"it would be too confusing for our users". Just like having more than 9 deck slots.
I bought classic packs on accident, I'm the reason we can't have nice things.
#reddit #BenBrode #4Head #TechnologyIsntThereYet-
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In post 1362, zoraster wrote:what's wrong with classic packs?
I've played enough arena (and in general) to have all the commons/rares and playable epics from classic. I have all the playable neutral-legendaries too. So Classic packs are almost guaranteed to be just dust if I buy them. I bought like 7 GvG packs (or tried to) but their interface is so dumb.
Blizzard is REALLY bad at making basically navigable interfaces. Thats what happens when you let programmers do work that takes common sense.
Their customer support did exchange my packs in <24 hours though, so there is that.-
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I mean how fucking stupid is that. You make a little option somewhere that people who REALLY WANT IT can find and toggle on and it gives them more deckslots in whatever the fuck way. Just have the collection thing SCROLL when making new decks and have different pages of decks selectable in the play mode. WOW. SO HARD. WOW.-
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In post 1366, xRECKONERx wrote:Fucking Ben Brode saying that shit is INSANE. Absolutely insane.
☑ “This guys public relations are CRAZY!” ☑ “My point can't win against a dodge like that” ☑ "He NEEDED precisely those two buzzwords to win" ☑ “He mentioned the only new feature that could bury my concern” ☑ "He had the perfect buzzwords" ☑ “There was nothing I could say” ☑ “I argued that perfectly"-
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In post 1372, prawneater wrote:In post 1356, zoraster wrote:i'm kind of upset that a game that has as much depth as it does has so little in the way of built in statistics. what a missed opportunity.
I think built-in stats would intimidate new players. Blizzard trying to make a newb-friendly game is a really good business idea imo.
Nice try, blizzard employee.-
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In post 1422, xRECKONERx wrote:all it takes it 1 fucking stupid goddamn lucksack bullshit arena game to piss me off
Is this Kripparian?