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In post 24, Grib wrote:I wonder if that constitutes a townslip for you. Hm. I already had a light townread on you anyway.
The setup heavily implies three factions. Two scum and likely one 3P.
What.
In post 39, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Grib saw this and assumed that Herbivores must be town.
Grib is scum. Votes on Grib please.
Stole what I was going to say BBT. Though I'm not so certain that this makes Grib scum.
In post 43, Pine wrote:Got free time faster than expected
No real reads as yet, but I may pass out from all of the stupid fumes being given off from is thread. Even if the mod didn't outright state that it's not carnivores vs herbivores etc,someone outright herpderping that they're a carnivore would've made that obvious.Scum would have to be absolute blithering morons to advertise it otherwise
In fact...yeah. I take it back. Mild townread on Gribble for herpderping, moderate scum read on Blueblood for unreasonable pouncing
Vote: BluebloodedToffee
What are you talking about in the bolded?
This post feels mega defensive (possibly white knighting Grib?) to me.
VOTE: Pine
P-edit: To my understanding, scum are the dinosaurs which don't follow the park rules. They can be herbivores, carnivores or omnivores --> the type of dinosaur is not alignment indicative-
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I agree with Beck that Scripten's posts are pinging oddly. Beck also seems town.
In post 61, Scripten wrote:
In post 60, Beck wrote:In post 55, Scripten wrote:Grib had role flavor that suggested it, if he's not lying. I'm calling null until later.
interesting because my role pm doesn't suggest my alignment has anything to do with the type of dinosaur I am...
Neither did mine, but Grib's summary of the role flavor seemed reasonable. Didn't feel too alignment-indicative.
@Scripten, So if your role pm said nothing about type of dinosaur = alignment, why did you find Grib's discussion of role flavour 'reasonable'?
In post 77, Beck wrote:But it seems scum are omnivores,so if he were scum don't you think he would know a town carnivore would speak up?
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I'm thinking Grib is town atm.
In post 82, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I want to say Insanity is town already.
Her thoughts are lining up pretty well with mine.
You're not buddying me are you?
In post 121, yungh0mo wrote:Oh it posted lmaoo my computer was being weird sorry. Just RVS VOTE: Scripten because aggressiveness is kinda bleh
You know what I think is bleh? People who RVS when we already have plenty of content to analyse.
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In post 141, Scripten wrote:In post 130, insanity018 wrote:
@Scripten, So if your role pm said nothing about type of dinosaur = alignment, why did you find Grib's discussion of role flavour 'reasonable'?
Because the way he described his role sounded like the rest of the flavor we've been provided and I could see how he could have made the mistake he did, as town or scum. That's why I said it was not alignment indicative.
Guess. And then you should move your vote onto scum.
How did Beck's mistake that omnivores=scum differ from Grib's mistake that carnivores=scum?
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VOTE: Scripten
You have not expressed any suspicions of Pine so far.
Disappointed that your wagon wasn't getting any traction?-
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Because I didn't understand your vote.
Presuming that Scripten isn't lying, this wagon escalated very quickly and there's a good chance that scum was involved somehow. Beck has been scum reading Scripten for a while. FinnLaw's vote was RVS but he was continuing to express suspicions. Yet, you (and I just double checked your ISO to make sure this is correct) hadn't at any point given any reasons why you thought Scripten may be scum. You could have been just jumping on because it looked like an easy wagon.-
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In post 281, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Still want Yung to answer how that's an RVS vote when he provided reasoning for the vote.
This is what you're most worried about? Not why has Yung read enough of the thread to figure out that Scripten was being aggressive yet fail to post anything meaningful...but why he called his vote an RVS...?
In post 308, Mathdino wrote:
insanity, I want you to give some of your reads and your reasoning for them.
Meh. I'm not a huge fan of reads lists.
Leaning town: Beck > Mathdino > Grib
Assuming town for now: Scripten
Nullish: Pine
Leaning scum: BBT, Yungh0mo, Finnlaw
Yungh0mo for not contributing anything meaningful.
I hate FinnLaw's 319 as it seems like just a repeat of what other people have said.
Atm, something about the way BBT is forming his reads and questioning other people feels unnatural. Eg above.-
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I don't think your question itself would have achieved much. Yungh0mo's response was going to be either 'It was RVS! I didn't have any real reasoning' or 'Whoops you're right, it wasn't RVS.'
What is more telling here was how Yung jumped straight to defending himself and doesn't seem to care about anything else happening in the game.-
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In post 364, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It's easier for scum to role-fish if people just insta-claim at L-1. I always wait for intent to hammer to be declared.
Same
In post 374, Beck wrote:Stop trying to insult my intelligence, yes I read what I'm writing.
I'm not voting grib cause nobody else is voting grib. He gets to l-1, I'll hammer him but I'm keeping my vote where its at thanks
P.edit- I can't pretend something that isn't possible,cause he's confirmed scum already.
No he isn't. Unless someone suddenly comes out as a day cop, he's as much confirmed scum as he is confirmed town ie not confirmed at all.
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I completely disagree. How come?
In post 426, Beck wrote:
There's not a single role that is ACTUALLY confirmable, that can't be confirmed today.
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I've been getting the same impression out of the rests of his posts.
For example, at first glance 358 seems like a great post. However, looking closely, there is very little original analysis and the post has been fluffed up withFinnLaw reminding us what his previous stances wereorparroting what others have said.
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In post 434, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
He just comes across like newb-town. He is trying to present his view on things, just because he repeats himself or agrees with what other people say, I don't see how that makes him scum.
It makes his posts look like they contain more helpful towny content than they actually do. Which is obviously great for him if he is scum.
It also means he can avoid criticism for any arguments he makes. As he can just say 'insanity came up with that idea first and I just thought it made sense; you should give her a hard time about it instead.' Again, could be helpful for scum.
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In post 443, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
If Finn tried to deflect attention from himself in that way (oh well Insanity said it first) I would insta-vote him. That is very different to what we're talking about here.I would fully expect Finn to explain his own thought processes and reasons.
The point is that he hasn't really done this.
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In post 453, Beck wrote:In post 450, insanity018 wrote:The point is that he hasn't really done this.
Qft
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I do not support a Beck lynch. I would vote for Grib before voting Beck but would prefer {FinnLaw, Majiffy}
In post 491, Grib wrote:
Can we get back to lynching BBT now? Or anyone, really?At this point I probably wouldn't even have the energy to fight a Grib lynch much, I've already posted all my thoughts.
Considering that you had one vote on you at the time, why were you even thinking of getting lynched?
Why? Why and why?
Coasting on a basic reads list does not make up for your predecessor's complete lack of actual content.
In post 512, Mathdino wrote:
insanityis pinging me but I'm having issues explaining it. I think my main issue is her case on FinnLaw; it seems rather opportunistic, and she's been consistently going after people who are being useless rather than scummy. She had a scumread on Beck earlier but nothing came of that, instead making a case on Finn and then wagoning Yung.
FoS: her
Did you miss where I explained how posting said such uselessness could be beneficial as a scum player?
I have not had a scumread on Beck.
In post 514, Majiffy wrote:Insanity is probably SK if we have one fyi.
There is a tell that the first person to SK hunt is actually the SK...
@Grib, would someone unvoting affect your decision to vote for Beck?
p-edit: Seems like you're more convinced that Beck is 'dumb' than actually scum.-
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In post 564, insanity018 wrote:I agree that that Grib's intent to hammer was a bit shady (particularly if he though Beck was dumb instead of) but I don't think he scum slipped.townscum
While I don't think outing flavour names would be harmful, I also do not see what itwillmanage to achieve.-
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In post 603, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
I'm not sure what your point is here. Are you saying that because I am scum-reading someone that everything they say is wrong and irrelevant? Are you saying that because I think he is scum, I must be right, and therefore he cannot make any good points/provide good arguments?
Well if you are scumreading someone, that means you think they are trying to mislynch town and are therefore are usually suspicious of any argument they might make. Unless you think that they're bussing.
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HeyMajiffy, while it's nice to see your SK speculations, I would much prefer seeing your actual reads instead? Or even any general thoughts about the current game state.
You even quoted the post where I asked this.
I support lynching Majiffy. The only drawback would be how low information that would be.-
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In post 684, Mathdino wrote:
It's also got to do with the fact that no one in the history of this game has been opposed to lynching Majiffy's slot, since it's kinda useless.
This is kinda why it is low information.
...Please enlighten us?
Also sorry but I've just startedskippingskimming BBT and Grib's back and forth.
I am at: While I completely understand BBT's initial reaction to Grib's herbivore mistake, I think Grib is right that BBT just sits on that as a 'scum slip' (which it isn't) and doesn't justify his continuing scum read. In fact, I'm still not sure what BBT's actual case is.-
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Eugh...so many pages overnight.
HI MAJIFFY, WHAT IS YOUR REASONING FOR ANY OF THE SCUMREADS/TOWNREADS/ANYTHING RELATED TO THE GAME YOU HAVE?
All you have done is lol at and dismiss the people who find you scummy. And you know what that sounds like - scum.
And since we are talking about retroactivity, why did you scumread Beckbeforehe started supporting your lynch?
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I would say that Pine is the most under-the-radar player right now.
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In post 800, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 796, Grib wrote:BBT, summarize why Mathdino's vote was scummy. Just a couple points. Or at least specific posts.
738, 740, 743, 749 and 752
This is not a summary. I believe Mathdino when he says that he thought you were already at L-1 with Pine likely to hammer. Please quote the posts that you say already refuted Grib's hypocrisy case by the time he made it. (585)-
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I've been waiting a long time for something even resembling an explanation to this. Please excuse me if my belief in Majiffyscum has become cemented.
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12 pages.
25 posts from Majiffy.
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Ok thanks, that really clears everything up.
In post 842, Majiffy wrote:And your recent behavior can pretty easily be interpreted as reinforcement of my beliefs.
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In post 981, Mathdino wrote:Just chiming in in the middle of writing up a summary, that Majiffy is always a stubborn douchebag, and that's why we love him. Not alignment indicative.
There is a difference between stubborn and 'im about to get lynched so I dont actually care about telling town what I think so that they end up lynching scum' which is effectively what majiffy is doing-
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In post 989, Mathdino wrote:VCA is still something.
Yes, I would. However the reason that scum would avoid contributing too much is because they expect to be lynched and they don't want associations to be drawn. Scumajiffy clearly expected to be lynched there. He'd be crazy not to have, what with people threatening to hammer right next to the deadline. So why take the time to make that post above? Doesn't take nearly as much effort to bicker with Beck.
I think that post was him giving in and creating a last words post before Scripten finally decided to hammer. Not sure why scum would do that.
That is not a VCA. That post is a set of VCs without the A.
How much effort does it take to simply count the number of votes different wagons had at different stages?
Did Majiffy ever mention who could be scum based on how they moved across the wagons? No. Or why {Beck/me/FinnLaw} are scum based on where we are voting? Nope.
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*grumble grumble*
GG town! Even though it was extremely stressful watchingsomeof you.
Congrats to Pine for dragging it out and nearly confusing everyone at the end of the game.
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