Micro 407: Jurassic Park Mafia - Game Over

[Pine]

Claim and then somebody hammer please

Don't need to claim. I have verifiable proof that I'm town come Day 2, which will appear regardless of whether I die overnight or not. Only a very stupid town will lynch me today.

If I don't produce results tomorrow, lynch me then.

Will do

Do not get the Scripten wagon at all. His vote wasn't very well reasoned, but certainly didn't merit being put to L-1 for nothing.

Mathdino looks Townish for using deductive strategies to sort through this mess

[yungh0mo]

hai guys reading

[insanity018]

UNVOTE:

[insanity018]

Grib, why did you switch to Scripten?

[Grib]

I have him and BBT as unaligned pairs.

Why are you asking easy questions?

[insanity018]

Because I didn't understand your vote.

Presuming that Scripten isn't lying, this wagon escalated very quickly and there's a good chance that scum was involved somehow. Beck has been scum reading Scripten for a while. FinnLaw's vote was RVS but he was continuing to express suspicions. Yet, you (and I just double checked your ISO to make sure this is correct) hadn't at any point given any reasons why you thought Scripten may be scum. You could have been just jumping on because it looked like an easy wagon.

[Beck]

Claim and then somebody hammer please

Don't need to claim. I have verifiable proof that I'm town come Day 2, which will appear regardless of whether I die overnight or not. Only a very stupid town will lynch me today.

If I don't produce results tomorrow, lynch me then.

That's not how it works, obvious stalling tactic.

[Beck]

Bold statement.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBT

Back to our regular program.

Aww cmon, follow through with bussing your partner. He's said nothing that deserves a stay of execution

[Scripten]

That's not how it works, obvious stalling tactic.

Yes, actually, that is how it works. Quit rolefishing.

[Beck]

You realize its ridiculously easy for scum to soft claim right? This wagon shouldn't fall apart just cause you scare people with a soft claim. You got to l-1, you claim at l-1 and we evaluate the claim. Refusing to claim is punishable by death.

Rope this guy please.

BTW, its not role fishing. Its called playing mafia

[Beck]

This is 100% dead on and it certainly applies here. If he was a pr, he wouldn't be soft claiming.

If you're at L-1 and wait until a hammer has been threatened to claim, the odds of me believing anything you say drops drastically. If I'm a town PR, I want to claim as soon as I get to L-1 to avoid any possible quickhammers by someone. Where as if I'm scum, I really don't want to have to claim a PR I don't have, so I'm more likely to wait until the last second.

[Scripten]

I was at L-1 because of an RVS vote and a sketchy-as-hell quickwagon. Oh, and a tunneler. I already told you that I can present solid proof on Day 2 about my role. Do you REALLY think that I'd be playing a scum gambit that way? That's incredibly short-sighted.

Also, here's the awesome part. If you don't believe my claim tomorrow, you can use this thing called a Day 2 lynch to take me out.

[Scripten]

I'm more sure that Pine and insanity018 are town now. (Sorry for the vote, Pine. Wanted to gauge a few reactions.) Beck... is null because he's single-minded and tunnel-y as hell, but tunneling is pretty much a null tell, if not town. So right now I'm left with lurkers and Grib, who suddenly feels a little off to me.

Grib:

Why do you believe that BBT and myself are unaligned? Why would that affect your vote? Since you said my naked vote on Pine was small beans, walk me through the process of switching over to the wagon on me and then back to BBT, please?

UNVOTE: Pine
VOTE: Grib

[Beck]

I was at L-1 because of an RVS vote and a sketchy-as-hell quickwagon. Oh, and a tunneler. I already told you that I can present solid proof on Day 2 about my role. Do you REALLY think that I'd be playing a scum gambit that way? That's incredibly short-sighted.

Also, here's the awesome part. If you don't believe my claim tomorrow, you can use this thing called a Day 2 lynch to take me out.

Yes I absolutely thinking you are playing a scum gambit, self preservation will make you do that.

Giving yourself a night phase to plan your exit strategy is 100x better than your partner basically being mathematically screwed and it being near impossible for him to win.

This way you get to convince people to lynch a townie and then you kill one of the most obv town players making your chances manageable.

Full claim your role or die

[Scripten]

Full claim your role or die

If you haven't noticed, I'm not at L-1 any more. You're the only active player on my wagon at the moment. Perhaps you don't understand why this is. That's okay, nobody's perfect.

However, I'm still not claiming my role this early in the game. Again, quit rolefishing, please. It's just not happening right now.

[Scripten]

How about you come join me on the Grib wagon, instead? BBT will be here soon, too.

[ArcAngel9]

VOTE COUNT - 1.4

Scripten-

FinnLaw, , Beck

BlueBloodedToffee-

Grib, Pine

Grib-

Scripten,

Beck-

Pine-

BlueBloodedToffee

yungh0mo-

Not Voting

yungh0mo, Mathdino, insanity018

With 9 alive it takes 5 for a lynch and 4 for no lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2014-11-04 09:36:00)

[Grib]

248 doesn't make sense to me.

If you're not concerned with getting shot, why don't you want to claim? Why is it rolefishing if people want you to claim before deciding to lynch you? You either get lynched and flip town, get shot and flip town (in which case your power is moot) or live and are "revealed" or whatever as town. Because if you're not, you will be lynched.

Don't see how Beck is rolefishing here. Also love how you're capitalizing on BBT's idiot!tunnel without giving a fuck as to the reasons I have for him being wrong or scum.

[Scripten]

get shot and flip town (in which case your power is moot)

The rest of your post is true. This part is not. I would prefer not to explain any more than this about my role.

Also, note that Beck is voting me already. The other vote on me was "RVS" from a lurker. So unless people come running back to suddenly vote me again, I'm not worried about being lynched before having a chance to claim. If I truly cannot survive Day 1 without having to claim, I will, but right now is not that time. A hard claim would make my power moot, so I'm trying to avoid that.

Don't see how Beck is rolefishing here. Also love how you're capitalizing on BBT's idiot!tunnel without giving a fuck as to the reasons I have for him being wrong or scum.

Beck is rolefishing because he's operating on the idea that I'm at L-1, when I'm not. I'm placed him in my null slot because he would not tunnel me this hard if he were scum. BBT is a strange player, compared to the meta here. I am not scumreading him right now because of the way I've seen him play in other games, though. I'm actually not capitalizing on his tunnel on you. I was and am not scumreading you for the flavor discussion from before.

Could you answer my 262, please? It's kind of important.

[Beck]

If it makes no sense, why did you unvote?

P.edit - I know you arent l-1, doesn't matter. People unvoted you cause you soft claimed and it doesn't work like that. Your partner umvoted first, causing insanity to also unvote.

Proper play is a person refuses to claim = death by lynch.

[Scripten]

Your partner umvoted first, causing insanity to also unvote.

So, since Gribbles is my partner, why not join my wagon and lynch him? I mean, it will make the game 100x harder for me, right?

I find your logic to be so rock-solid, if you haven't noticed.

Proper play is a person refuses to claim = death by lynch.

That's how chat mafia works. This is different. I'm not claiming my role and rendering it moot on Day 1, thanks. If I'm brought to L-1 again, I may reconsider, because I'd rather not see this lynch wasted, but until then, deal.

[Beck]

Cause you are the only one voting grib, and you have already committed the cardinal sin

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@Math

- Most recent scum-games;

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=58653 - Newbie 1524

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=58743 - Micro 376

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=58649 - Micro 369

As a side note; how do I change those links so that instead of the address showing it shows like 'Newbie 1524' as a hyperlink instead?

[Scripten]

Cause you are the only one voting grib, and you have already committed the cardinal sin

Heh.

As a side note; how do I change those links so that instead of the address showing it shows like 'Newbie 1524' as a hyperlink instead?

Like this:

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[url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=58653]Newbie 1524[/url]

Newbie 1524

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Scripten

I will ride this wagon.

The most suspect vote of the game so far. Where did this come from?

Grib, can you expand on 254 please?

vote: scripten

Claim and then somebody hammer please

Good night

This was bad.

He doesn't need to claim until someone states intent to hammer him. The fact you're continuing to quite blatantly role-fish is a little worrying.

VOTE: Yung

This guy is lurking pretty hard. I want him to do something.