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I know. I'll probably not be NK'd.In post 37, farside22 wrote:@Tier: You have the best role.
Umm, does the plan still work if not all powers are town? I guess yes, but if the cop is scum it's a pretty much worthless plan that doesn't make good use of the global roleblocker.
I think we should be very careful with voting, considering we have a lynch at L-1 cos hammerer and we have a doublevoter.
I don't think a day 2 MyLo is possible seeing how we would have 6 votes day 3 with max 3 of them being controlled by scum.-
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Hmm, day 2 can indeed be mylo, damn.
On another thought, the plan proposed is the best plan.
This is incorrect. If brian doesn't use his roleblock, we PL him. If yiley turns up dead day 3, we PL you.In post 44, Mitillos wrote:As for the night action plan in post 37, naturally I'm in favour of it, because we may as well do it. Note that the plan won't work if any of the three night actions involved are by scum.
If Brian Skies is scum, he can simply kill me tonight, and then kill Yiley on N2.
If I am scum, I can kill Yiley on N2.
If Yiley is scum, it's all an exercise in futility anyway.
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In post 46, farside22 wrote:Tier: what were you thinking would be the best use of the global rb?In post 45, TierShift wrote: On another thought, the plan proposed is the best plan.
Lol, are you even serious.In post 48, Mitillos wrote:Eh, the problem is that we lose our only investigative and protective roles, in those situations. Sure, we get one of the two scum, but still.
Don't even try to say that catching a scum and losing investigative roles is worse than not having info.-
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No lynch is awful and should not be attempted.
@Farside: idk actually. I thought maybe a better opportunity would arise later in the game when reads are better and then saving a day would be more fruitful.
@Mitillos:
The plan is just going to work. If someone sabotages it, they get PL'd. Easy stuff.-
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Wow, you came up with a reason, while I actually didn't have a reason. Why do you attribute thoughts to me that I don't have nor question the vote and just sheep it?In post 90, absta101 wrote:
Not invlolved is different from avoiding. T-Shift brought my attention to you by voting with no stated reason. I looked into why he would vote you and came up with a reason. What I find interesting though is how you haven't question T-shift for his vote. Can you explain that please.In post 89, farside22 wrote:@Absta: I'm still curious about this question:
There was really no one invovled in the game during the mil/you/tier. So why did you specifically only put me as avoiding the game?-
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I'm sorry if it wasn't clear, but I changed my mind on using the RB at a later moment. I hadn't thought much about it when I said that, but now I think the best time would be N1.In post 108, farside22 wrote: So far I don't like Brain's entrance into this game. It's odd to me. Tier is another one. He talks about holding off on using the 1-shot global RB for another useful time but doesn't say what it is. When pushed by me I don't really get an answer that makes any more sense.
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2 no lynches would be quite ridiculous but 1 no lynch might work.
I guess we all need to realize that if we mislynch twice day 3 is mylo and we just can't trust the cop, he might give a guilty on a townie if he's scum.
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Oh and guys trying to find the best plan for town is not something only town does and as a matter of fact very easily fakeable by scum because there's no feelings/opinions involved, just hard facts.
With that, I'd like to
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Already got your next moves planned, scum?In post 149, Micc wrote:I know I will be referring to it multiple times throughout this game.
On a more serious note, there's more than a few people doing nothing but mechanics discussion and it's not to my liking.-
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Oh youIn post 155, Micc wrote:When I am scum there is nothing to plan. Town miraculously lynches itself while I act like I don't have any clue whats going on.-
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Is it shitty cold-meta time?In post 162, Micc wrote:So far this game looks more like scum-Yiley than town-Yiley.
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In post 176, jklash12 wrote:Yiley looks like how he played in my other game him when he was town. I am leaning town on Yiley for now.
Shitty meta party revisited?In post 179, jklash12 wrote: Micc's play looks similar to his play in the game where he was scum. I went back and compared I don't see anything that suggest he is town. So I am leaning scum on Micc.-
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Is it just for the fact we aren't helpful?In post 182, absta101 wrote:I believe the scum is in Micc/Private/Brian/Tier.-
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Catchup :
He just said so in the post before, what was the point of this question?In post 114, Yiley wrote:Micc what is your opinion on far side/absta?
Seriously, this guy gets called in with a prod, and responds by more mechanics discussion? There was enough content to at least comment on, so that sucks.In post 119, Brian Skies wrote:NOT SCUMHUNTING
Mehhhhhhh..... so you're only scumhunting based on roles and nothing else? Convinced you can read me, yiley and jklash (like really but sure think that) but then not question us, trying to form these reads?In post 142, Micc wrote:
Knowing all the roles makes it easier to see how the game might pan out. Because of your roles, this game is going to revolve around you and absta. Maybe not in day one, but farther down the road being solid on these two reads is going to be absolutely necessary. So yes, I am scum searching based on roles. It also helps that I have a newly finished game with half the player list. Im fairly confident that I can read Yiley. jklash and Tiershift not as much, but at least I have experience playing with them. Newbie 1474 in case anyone cares.In post 134, farside22 wrote:Why is there interest only in me and absta? Are you only scum searching based on roles? If so why?
I think your reads are fine, the only one I have problems with is mit. Why is he so town to you? All I see in his posts is nullness and dullness and I can't say I really like that for town.In post 154, farside22 wrote:If it helps my town reads:
Mil
Abasta
questionable
Micc - I found his questions pretty bland and a few that I don't see how he can get an alignment read by them.
leaning scum
brain - machinc's talk. Going to the will of the town (it's odd but I need to see how much experience he has before I call it scummy) *on my to do list*
Why are you not interacting with him, asking him questions?In post 162, Micc wrote:Nothing else is jumping out at me about anyone expect Yiley. So far this game looks more like scum-Yiley than town-Yiley.
UNVOTE: Farside
VOTE: Yiley
Please come post, or I might be inclined to vote you. How do you feel about micc's vote on you?In post 165, Yiley wrote:I am trying to get people sorted out just not posting about it
No plsIn post 178, Brian Skies wrote:[more mechanics talk
So far, micc and brian don't really appease me, private is conpletely gone and yiley refuses to cooperate. Mit is null and absta and farside look town, but I'm not 100% there. Jklash feels different from his last town game but it looks more like his game improved than that he's scum.
Micc, who can read me so well, what's your read on me?
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I hope you see the irony of a hammerer and a treestump present
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Yiley is easy to read imo so just leave that shit to me. If he's scum, he's more likely to be evasive and distant while if he's town he's actively asking (semi-dumb) questions that are relevant in some way or another.
Uh no?In post 192, absta101 wrote:Tier is just terribly scummy at this point as well because he's only seemed to find one person scummy (private) who hasn't even been posting anything.
I'm sorry you're not used to using the same language as I do.It seems to me that he's scared of calling people scummy so he doesn't have to commit. That explains his vote on private and why he uses terms like "so that sucks" to describe scummy play.
'That sucks' implies that it's scummy, bro, get your ass out of here with non-commital.
You really can't filter out of my post who my scumspects are?
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Also yiley has feelings probably yaknowIn post 192, absta101 wrote:completely fucking shit playstyle.-
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I don't hold back as scum, buddy. Scumbuddy.In post 198, absta101 wrote:Lol, trying to get me mod killed?-
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You even mention them in this post, so I think you know!In post 201, absta101 wrote:Okay then Tier, who are your scumspects and why aren't you voting them (Brian and Micc are more vote worthy then Private btw).
Private is voteworthy for not doing a fucking shit this game. In fact, if he comes back from his v/la and still doesn't do anything, I'd be happy to have him lynched.-
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^what I'm wondering too
No. I'll tell you what my intentions with pushing for private are soon, hopefully. I don't think he's necessarily been scummy but he can sure use a couple of good ole lurker votes.In post 205, absta101 wrote:@Tier - So you'd rather PL than lynch scummy players?
mitillos, I think my scumreads were pretty clear and I'm not spelling out everything, if you can't read, your problem.
I've seen yiley being misread quite a shitton of times and scum always push for him, that's why I'd rather not leave it to absta's judgement. I myself have never read him wrongly. Not to boast in any way.
Mit, I have problems reading your posts due to.the awful paragraphing style that you have. Is it somrthing you always do?
Jk, I don't think yiley's play here has been anything like in newbie 1474. The newbness and clumsiness are always part of his play. Do you see any attempts at figuring out the game like last time, or what else does strike you as resembling his previous game?-
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In post 212, Micc wrote:
Not sure if you're intentionally putting those words in my mouth, or just didn't read very closely.In post 189, TierShift wrote:
Mehhhhhhh..... so you're only scumhunting based on roles and nothing else? Convinced you can read me, yiley and jklash (like really but sure think that) but then not question us, trying to form these reads?In post 142, Micc wrote:
Knowing all the roles makes it easier to see how the game might pan out. Because of your roles, this game is going to revolve around you and absta. Maybe not in day one, but farther down the road being solid on these two reads is going to be absolutely necessary. So yes, I am scum searching based on roles. It also helps that I have a newly finished game with half the player list. Im fairly confident that I can read Yiley. jklash and Tiershift not as much, but at least I have experience playing with them. Newbie 1474 in case anyone cares.In post 134, farside22 wrote:Why is there interest only in me and absta? Are you only scum searching based on roles? If so why?
Because interacting with Yiley usually ends with me wanting to close my laptop and not play mafia for the rest of the day. It's not like he is here to interact with anyways.In post 189, TierShift wrote:
Why are you not interacting with him, asking him questions?In post 162, Micc wrote:Nothing else is jumping out at me about anyone expect Yiley. So far this game looks more like scum-Yiley than town-Yiley.
UNVOTE: Farside
VOTE: Yiley
Again with the putting words in my mouth? I have you as null right now.In post 189, TierShift wrote:Micc, who can read me so well, what's your read on me?-
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Brian hasn't done any new shit so explain what changed about him.In post 217, absta101 wrote:Farside is back to town. Mitt is town. Brian is not as scummy as before imo. Jklash is not a town read anymore. Not so sure on Micc scum anymore but still think he's a possibility. Worst case scenario, Yiley and Jklash are scum.
I don't see what changed about jklash either.
If you're gonna put up your reads and not explain them you might as well not post them.
Also, if you'd actually post something decent as to why I'd be scum, I'd be happy.-
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The hammerer basically is a living treestump; their vote doesn't matter.In post 227, Brian Skies wrote:I must have missed it, what's the irony?
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Yiley gives off zero townvibes. He's been posting in mishmash while not here. I expected him to get involved in the past few days if he were town, but he hasn't done so. I don't give a shit about him being cop, we just lynch scum.
VOTE: yiley
L-2 by my count.
Absta is a shit lynch micc, why do you think it's decent?
I don't thnk we should use the RB tonight if we lynch yiley, but I don't really have any clue as to when to use it since it will just put us at even numbers instead of odd which sucks, basically.-
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Hey!
I just discovered the use of our RB.
If we get to LyLo with townabsta alive, it's insta-over.
If we get to MyLo with townabsta alive, it's not until town votes.
So the RB should be used I think and preferably before brian is dead, that'd be N1.
Thoughts?
Absta makes a fine PL anyway day 2.
Micc, if you're scum this game, please hand yourself in to the police for protectivr custody since you're a psychopath then.
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Ew absta, micc's selling me on you. Why the crap are you standing by while yiley is being wagoned, 'seeing the case', but not forming your own opinion on it?
What's up with the gay strategy you have in which town players die and then town players get investigated?-
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Micc, while I agree that it is weird that his read just changed and I do want him to explain why, why exactly would scum change their reads based on nothing? I think they'd be more inclined to stick to their reads.In post 244, Micc wrote:Your reads look fake because they change despite the person hardly posting in between.-
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Deadline absta wagon anyone? (Jokes I'd rather vote yiley)
No, you are refraining from giving your own opinion on the yiley wagon and just seemingly agree with others' opinions, as is demonstrated here:In post 248, absta101 wrote:@Tier
I'm not standing by, i'm voting you because you look more scummy. Also, I don't think you realise how easy it would be to form a fake opinion on Yiley at this point. Thinking I look scummy because I "haven't formed my own opinion" is weak.Ew absta, micc's selling me on you. Why the crap are you standing by while yiley is being wagoned, 'seeing the case', but not forming your own opinion on it?
Calling you out for that is not 'weak' and I'd prefer if you stop discrediting my attacks, tyvm.In post 239, absta101 wrote:However, your case on him has shown that his play and attitude as town has been different to this. For that reason he is prob scum.
I like to think I'm quite adept at reading yiley and him giving out townvibes or not is how I gauge him. If you have problems with that, send the mod a complaint letter.Look at this:
The first bit is a really bad reason to call someone scum. If someone doesn't look town, they are null, not scum.Yiley gives off zero townvibes. He's been posting in mishmash while not here. I expected him to get involved in the past few days if he were town, but he hasn't done so.
Pointing out that Yiley has been posting elsewhere is what I did in post #234, so that's nothing done on your part.
The last statement is the only part you could vaguely call a reason, and it's an easy one to make at that (I'd expect town-him to do 'X' but he hasn't so I think he's scum).
P-edit: lol are you srsly settling for your third (at best) scumread with both of your bigger scumreads on the wagon? Shame on you. I'm happy your vote doesn't actually mean anything.-
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Not necessarily. But if he is, we should use his power sooner rather than later.In post 271, farside22 wrote:You think the RB is town?-
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I think your scenarios are correct, micc. An easier way to observe it:
In regular LyLo/MyLo, if absta is town, we lose, because absta's vote can be used by scum. Thus, absta's vote is a scum vote. If we eliminate a scum vote during the day by lynching him, then lose a town vote during the night, we lost a town and a scum vote. Hence, not closer to lylo so a free lynch.
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If 6/2 and you are scum you can quickhammer with only one townvote somewhere
Then 4/2 and you control 4 votes (since absta is 1) thus win
If at 6/2 we lynch absta scum have max 3 votes day 3 and thus can't quickhammer.
In the worst case scenario it's a free lynch.
With you town and him town it isn't I think but I'm not sure.
Anyway I'm pretty sure brian needs to use his shot tonight since tomorrow may be MyLo.
We're pushing the PL because it's a free lynch, it wins us a day.-
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Are you suggesting that in the situation day 3 with 0 scum lynched with absta alive, town should quicklynch before scum get the opportunity to? Doesn't seem like a good strategy.In post 296, Mitillos wrote:The reason is that, just as a town hammerer can be manipulated by scum, a scum hammerer can be manipulated by the town.
Ayway, I'm not getting on board with a PrivateI lynch, since that would really be only because he's lurking (which is not alignment indicative). In yiley's case, the lurking and refusing to get involved ís alignment indicative.
Pri=lurker yiley=scum.
Can you please vote yiley, we're getting dangerously close to deadline.-
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I have no idea who the first sentence refers to. To the second, null.In post 301, Brian Skies wrote:I thought you guys said his lurking wasn't alignment indicative.
What's your read on PrivateI?
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In post 258, PrivateI wrote:Yeah, so I'm going to throw that out for the purposes of this game. The play there as a whole is much more chaotic, there are three days per real life day, and I'm seeing completely different play there than here in any game.Right now, I'm not seeing scum Yiley,though I will focus on him whilere-reading.
Yeah, thanks for the reread and comments on the gamestate. Thanks for expressing scumreads.In post 306, PrivateI wrote:All right, I'm hoping that Yiley is scum since I don't think anyone else is going to get wagoned this close to deadline. Keep in mind that he is now at L-2.
VOTE: Yiley[/b]
Instead of that, you just stroll by with a supposed yiley vote whilr you don't scumread him.
Fake votes are gay, btw.
I have to control myself not to start a wagon.-
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I'm running the numbers here. Please don't discuss this, but use it as a reference.
Note that when townabsta is alive, it's MyLo instead of LyLo and LyLo instead of a straight scum win.
I've taken a farside NK in case she is town, as that is the worst scenario votewise.
4 cases:
1. Absta is town, farside is town
2. Absta is town, farside is scum
3. Absta is scum, farside is town
4. Absta is scum, farside is scum
Case 1
day 2: 9 votes, 3 controlled by scum.
town lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 3 controlled by scum-->LyLo
scum lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 2 controlled by scum-->day 4 LyLo
absta lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 2 controlled by scum-->MyLo
farside lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 3 controlled by scum-->LyLo
case 2
day 2: 9 votes, 4 controlled by scum-->MyLo
town lynch
day 3: 7 votes, 4 controlled by scum-->GAME OVAH
scum lynch
day 3: 7 votes, 3 controlled by scum-->MyLo
absta lynch
day 3: 7 votes, 3 controlled by scum-->LyLo
farside lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 2 controlled by scum-->day 4 LyLo
case 3
day 2: 9 votes, 2 controlled by scum
town lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 2 controlled by scum-->MyLo
scum lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 1 controlled by scum-->day 4 MyLo
absta lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 1 controlled by scum-->day 4 MyLo
farside lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 2 controlled by scum-->MyLo
case 4
day 2: 9 votes, 3 controlled by scum
town lynch
day 3: 7 votes, 3 controlled by scum-->LyLo
scum lynch
absta lynch
day 3: 7 votes, 2 controlled by scum-->day 4 LyLo
farside lynch
day 3: 6 votes, 1 controlled by scum-->day 4 MyLo-
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I think Micc is town and it should be obvious if you've even read my posts. I just wanted to put a little pressure on Micc earlier.In post 342, absta101 wrote:
What happened to your scum reads on Brian and Micc and why aren't you voting one of them now?In post 204, TierShift wrote:
You even mention them in this post, so I think you know!In post 201, absta101 wrote:Okay then Tier, who are your scumspects and why aren't you voting them (Brian and Micc are more vote worthy then Private btw).
Private is voteworthy for not doing a fucking shit this game. In fact, if he comes back from his v/la and still doesn't do anything, I'd be happy to have him lynched.
Also, explain why it was better for you to vote Private at the time instead of voting your scum reads Brian and Micc.
I'm still unsure about Brian and he's mostly null now. Private just did nothing, came in and hammered our cop.
Yiley is always active. Him lurking means he doesn't want to get involved. But hey, I was wrong.In post 343, absta101 wrote:
Explain this. Why exactly is Yiley scum for lurking and Private not?In post 299, TierShift wrote:Ayway, I'm not getting on board with a PrivateI lynch, since that would really be only because he's lurking (which is not alignment indicative). In yiley's case, the lurking and refusing to get involved ís alignment indicative.
Pri=lurker yiley=scum.
To me all you've said here is that "Yiley is not only lurking, he's also lurking!" Refusing to get involved is lurking.
Yo I agree with the fact that there probably is a scum on there. I think it's Private, but if it isn't him it might just be jklash.In post 344, absta101 wrote:Guys look at the Yiley waggon. At least one scum is on there. Tier or Private, or both.
I'm seriously wondering what kind of description I gave you and how I'm exerting that here ^^In post 360, Micc wrote: I am suspicious of Tiershift because his Day1 kind of matches the description of his own scum game that he gave me. His interactions with PrivateI end of day one could make them partners.
Anyway, I'm quite paranoid about absta. On the one hand, he could be genuinely frustrated town that is determined to lynch from the wagon. On the other hand, he could be looking at an all-town wagon (or a sole scum) and pretend to be frustrated. 249 reinforces that thought, because he says he would lynch yiley, but now he's strictly opposing all who voted yiley and pretends to be the embodiment of rationality.
P-edit: what do you think about absta, farside?-
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served in a mere 10 seconds, I should become a waiter.In post 371, absta101 wrote:Also, Tier answer my questions please.-
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Because half the game was lurking and I was pressuring lurkers out of lurking. You seem to use all kind of neutral behaviours as scumtells.In post 374, absta101 wrote:I'm not calling people scum for voting Yiley, i'm saying there's a very high chance scum voted Yiley with strategic purposes.
Bolded doesn't answer my question. Why were you voting privateTierShift wrote:I think Micc is town and it should be obvious if you've even read my posts. I just wanted to put a little pressure on Micc earlier.
I'm still unsure about Brian and he's mostly null now.Private just did nothing, came in and hammered our cop.at the time(before your vote on Yiley) instead of your scum reads.
What are his other towntells?I don't see Jklash as scum. Other than his other town tells, he was strongly against Yiley's waggon at first. Which doesn't make much sense as scum.-
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Lol this is the first time I've ever been called a lurker
If there's a word that describes my play worst it's probably that.
Neutral behaviours like calling private's fake vote, for instance. That's not alignment indicative.
What is your case for me? I still fail to see any actual points.
Just linking a post doesn't explain why jklash is town, elaborate.-
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