Micro 310: Shitty Joke Smalltown II (game over)

[N]

Vote Count 2.06

Mitillos

(0)

Micc

(0)

absta101

(1) PrivateI

farside22

(0)

PrivateI

(2)

Mitillos, jklash12

Brian Skies

(0)

TierShift

(1) absta101

jklash12

(0)

Not Voting

(4) farside22, Brian Skies, TierShift, Micc

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-04-10 21:55:07)

V/LA:

farside22 on weekends

[TierShift]

Let me first get to my Micc read.

Cool. You feel about the same way about me as I feel about you. The numbers you posted regarding today's lynch are misleading and outright wrong. I can't tell if you are lying scum or if you actually believe you are right. I actually lol'ed whey you called the case on Yiley a "shitty meta tell". Like actually laughed out loud, not just chuckled in my head.

I'm pretty damn sure that my numbers are correct. You are forgetting that we are at an even amount of players, which normally gets us to MyLo. With absta alive, it gets ue to LyLo in the same amount of days. You can stop thinking that you can do math and no one else can. I'm wondering what's up with the hostility btw.

Micc, who do you actually think is scum?

Jklash is strong town. Farside is not quite as strong town. Private feels like lynchbait, but I'm not sure on that one. I like Brian's posts for the most part, but he's even less engaged in the game than I have been so it is hard to tell. Absta still feels like scum to me, possibly because he needs to die either way and confirmation bias and such. Tiershift and Mitillos are vocally against lynching Absta today which raises eyebrows for me.

You have to see that you are the only one actually in favor of an absta PL (plus PrI but you shouldn't be comforted by that) while everyone else is against it. It's because your math is wrong. You aren't scumhunting, just calling everyone who is against your PL scummy. Now get your head out of your arse, run the math over and over again and come to your senses.

[absta101]

@Micc

- I think you should only vote me for PL reasons if you have farside as a scum read (or maybe null). Otherwise, you should vote me only if i'm a scum read.

Absta still feels like scum to me

If you think this, why did you unvote me?

[farside22]

MIT: you have confused me. I see today is day 2.
Players alive is 8. That is 6 town 2 scum.
Mislynch is 5 town 2 scum night 2.
Day 3 after scum night kill is:
4 town 2 scum. How is that not mislynch lose day 3?
I thought I said this the first time, which I did, http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5776451
So what is wrong with my numbers.

[TierShift]

Farside 4 town 2 scum with absta alive is LyLo not MyLo but the rest is correct if you are town.

[Mitillos]

@farside: Post 345 has the right numbers of players. Post 495 has the wrong number of players. Neither has the right number of votes. Because of your role and the hammerer, the regular notions of LyLo and MyLo have to be discarded, in a sense.

Basically, when we're at 4v2, if you're still alive, there are 7 votes left. It takes 4 to lynch and mafia control between 1 and 4, depending on your alignment and absta's.

I'm sorry for confusing you. It's just that I'm fairly certain I'll be tonight's kill (unless mafia decides to go the WIFOM route) and I want you to be perfectly clear on the situation, after I'm gone. That's pretty much the most I can do for the town right now, other than point out who I think is scum.

[farside22]

I haven't voted private because I'd like to be damn sure we lynch scum and not have to worry out lylo.
That said does any think the meta on private means anything?

[PrivateI]

Quite honestly, I am not certain that it does. The primary town game in which I had time to collect my reads and compile them was when I was a replacement early on. At the same time, I had no school, and just a little work. I'm doing my best to stay afloat in these games, but it's difficult.

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Prodding jklash12

[TierShift]

I'm really ashamed by my activity here. I promise a reread at night.

[farside22]

Quite honestly, I am not certain that it does. The primary town game in which I had time to collect my reads and compile them was when I was a replacement early on. At the same time, I had no school, and just a little work. I'm doing my best to stay afloat in these games, but it's difficult.

I find this hard to believe considering how active you were during marathon weekend

[TierShift]

Spamposting incoming, probably underexplained but everyone is free to ask for explanations

Absta is town I think
Proactive plus the attack on me makes no sense from a scum POV

[TierShift]

Mit town

Now let me get t the people I'm actually really paranoid about atm

[TierShift]

Hmm farside why did you vote yiley at the end of day 1 and not private?

[TierShift]

Oh I just realized farside is confirmed not scum with anyone but pri or absta or she could hammer for a win now.

[absta101]

Interesting point. Question is, would you confirm farside town like this as scum.

[TierShift]

I don't even care.

I just thought of this.

We cannot put two votes on anyone in case farside is scum with privateI, a team I could see, I guess.

[TierShift]

We should be crazily careful

[farside22]

Hmm farside why did you vote yiley at the end of day 1 and not private?

I've already answered this question from MIT.

I don't even care.

I just thought of this.

We cannot put two votes on anyone in case farside is scum with privateI, a team I could see, I guess.

Theories are fun. Town read to possible scum with no reason noted.

[TierShift]

Yeah it's because of the yiley vote

Anyway I'm not really sure just yet I'll have more putting you as either alignment soon

[farside22]

Well you can throw theories out without a private lynch all you want but my vote on yiley was the meta and lurking is null.
Why is that suspicious?

[Mitillos]

Here are the rest of the reads I promised:

Micc:

He's been mostly dealing with mechanics and roles, which is somewhat understandable. Seems to be trying hard to get the optimal town actions, but we disagree on which lynch would be optimal. So, from my point of view, either I'm wrong, or he's town who is honestly mistaken, or he's scum trying to deceive the town. His meta case on Yiley was largely what led to his mislynch, but on the other hand, it was a valid-looking case, at the very least, and Yiley did nothing to alleviate all the suspicion.

Read: Null-Town.

PrivateI:

I've already said a lot about this one. First he claimed that Yiley's behaviour was null, then he questions Micc for wanting to lynch Yiley, even though he's the cop, and then, he effectively hammered the cop, claiming he hadn't realised that his vote was the hammer. ISO me for more on PrivateI.

Read: Scum.

TierShift:

Seems to have a lot of paranoia (in a good sense), regarding both the players and the setup. In many ways, his thoughts seem to match my own. He is also going through the numbers and trying to find the worst scenarios, so that we can avoid them. I said that he might be scum, earlier, but I've changed my mind on him. I'd still like to see the rest of his reads, preferably in a non-spamposting manner.

Read: Null-town.

But somewhat more town than Micc and Brian.


With this, by a process of elimination, jklash moves up to second scummiest, so here is my preferred lynching order:

PrivateI > jklash > Brian ~= Micc > Tier > farside > absta.

Except that absta will likely move to the very top, when we get one scum flip, unless night-time shenanigans occur.

[TierShift]

Well you can throw theories out without a private lynch all you want but my vote on yiley was the meta and lurking is null.
Why is that suspicious?

Do you usually just copy other people's meta reads?

[Mitillos]

@Mod: I'll be semi-V/LA until Friday. I'll still be around, but probably not as responsive.

[TierShift]

Private probably isn't scum but just a townie not helping towards his wincon. Unless someone has a more convincing meta research that PrI just randomly quickhammers then lurks away as scum I wouldn't lynch him because he'd be a treestump, nor because I think he's scum. I'd only lynch him because he's a safe lynch.

I don't believe in farside-pri nor in farside-absta so you can be the town voice of reason now farside even tho I haven't really taken a look at your play yet.