Micro 205: Everybody's Being Watched Round 2 (Game Over)

[Shiny Hydreigon]

/confirm

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: Egg

This might be town Mala

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I like digimon.
VOTE: Shiny Hydreigon

Also, who are you a hydra of?

We are a Hydra of R, M and L

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Maybe you do know who we are, but you just don't know it

ITT: My vote on Egg is that much more serious, I'll talk to the other two to see how they feel about him but I feel like he's scum

[Shiny Hydreigon]

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

nope

I am not wisdom

I think Mala is town, yes. so far, this feels like town mala, and not scum mala. I have played with both.

originally, I followed Mala because I wanted to see how Egg would react and his reaction feels like a scum-reaction to me so I'm keeping my vote there

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Mala, you should know that's how I start my games. I really think you're just jumping on whatever. All I need to decide is if it's because you're scum or town who wants a reaction. But I know that you know I start my games like that.

Also when was I scum on this account before?

Opportunism at it's finest from the hydra though.

unvote, vote hydra

OMGUS at it's finest from the scum though.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

hi guys!
i also agree that Egg might be scum. initially i thought he could be town, trying to post "serious accusations" to get reactions and get the game going, but then i got the feeling that he's just trying too hard. i dont like how he uses association tells before we even have any flips, and i dont like how he jumps on everything that happens and makes a huge deal. thats a scum tactic to confuse the town and make them accuse and suspect everyone.

dont like the lack of content from pretty much everyone other than Malakittens and maybe Dart - stop posting for the sake of posting. give your opinions on Egg and everything else thats happening.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

except that has nothing to do with the game, so stop using it as an excuse to avoid posting content

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Hydra, I haven't used an associative tell for a vote. Won't even think about doing that until there are flips.

than whats the point of mentioning them in arguments? confuse the town? yeah.

Also, you could make the same arguement about reads in general trying to confuse town.

except town don't do it on purpose.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I would cry if this is a hydra of {Fery, Mollie & Nacho}

R really does sound like Mollie at times, but I don't think it's her.

Nope
Nope
Nooooope

none of those guesses are correct

keep trying~~

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I honestly don't understand why trying to figure us out is so important to everyone though, no matter who gets guessed I am never going to say yes even if someone has guessed correctly so trying is only a waste of time


I'll explain the Mala Meta later when I have time to

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Saying they don't want to reveal themselves

and making it the subject of discussion

is not useful for town

im pretty sure i said i

dont

want it to be the subject of discussion exactly cos it has nothing to do with the game and people are using it to avoid posting content.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

TheGar - leaning town. He's been involved, seemed genuinely concerned for putting someone at L-1. Pretty town

Not really.

Egg - null. He's had some posts that were good, others that were questionable - I've been flip-flopping on him

I can see how one might.

Hydra - null, leaning scum - not liking the whole subversive and negative way it started the game. Saying they don't want to reveal themselves and making it the subject of discussion is not useful for town. In fact, it's anti-town. I'll have to solidify as the game goes on.

We didn't make ourselves the subject of discussion, others did. What negative way?

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

im becoming less sure about egg, though i dont like how he tries hard to show how town he is, how he's "scumhunting" and how his actions are actually townish. he cares too much about how he appears, and thats a scum trait.

however i think xegarus is scum. his posts feel like they're done just for the sake of posting. 24, 45 and 48 are essentially fluff, and so is 55 for the most part. in the end of 55 xeg asks others to give their reads instead of giving his own reads on what has happened - he only gives one. then he forgets his rvs vote(lets say we buy that) and from that point all his posts are self-defence regarding that.
tl;dr: enough posts to not be considered a lurker, almost zero content, self-defending that isnt really needed, lack of stances.

i wanna know what the other heads think too, but ill do this anyway

UNVOTE:
VOTE: xegarus

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

so who do you think is scum, Telo?
did you just come here to dispel the suspicion on you? how about you involve yourself in a discussion instead?
what is your read on Egg? On Xegarus?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

telo i dont see you doing anything to figure them out though!
how do you think that you will be able to get reads on them?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

and you seriously have nothing to comment on everything that has happened so far?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Alright y'all mothahfuckas, M is in the hizhouse!

Da fuck ya doin Telo? Stop bein so mothafuckin La-z and git scumhuntin

Yo Gar, stop makin fluff and empty promises

Xegarus needs a gud 2 shot down da throat. I don' wanna hear none of y'all mothafuckas denying it

Dart, what demon possessed you to unvote that mothafuckin scum? Ya don't give scum a "fair chance" ya give em a mothafuckin bullet down da throat

Mala needs da gun 2 jus lyk her bud xeg ovah there. She best be bussin her teammate or ima have her head.

I dont give 2 fucks bout the rest o y'all mothafuckas rite now, u all b null.



~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

ITT: We are all dissonant as hell on Mala

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

telo i dont like how much you care about how you appear. scum are the ones who care about that.

also

I'm guessing that whomever the team is at least one of them is an experienced player who probably gave some pregame strategy coaching.

why are you assuming that?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I'm seeing Fuduzn as town

Why?

~L

Mod: Delete the slip please!

[Shiny Hydreigon]

and why are you fency on so many People Mala?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: Fuduzn

Pedit: well, I was trying to keep it a secret...

and yeah, you kinda are

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Aw hell naw

I noooooooo u jus din't get bustd L

Da fuck u thinkin?

Mala, darlin', Ill be frank widd u

u sittin on that fence longer than my hubby sat in the unemployment line

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Oh hell to the naw

Do u even no who I am?

Where I ben?

Wut I don?

Y'all best not be ignorin' nobody. Unless u be scum and already no my alignment and have no reason to read it.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

itt L wants secret hydras yet altslips anyway

whatever - I still dont like fuduzn, and i get bad vibes from both telo and baezu. their cross voting/fosing makes me believe theyre not scum together however. baezu is probably worse, her rapidly changing reads without good reason is very weird.

i feel somewhat better about egg too.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

also dart is very town

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

2. The vote and unvote on Egg. I've already admitted that the run up of Egg was the most interesting thing in the game up until that point but I wasn't able to decipher anything telling from that so that interaction leads me nowhere. --null--

why mention this in the reasons you townread him?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

His posts in felt town. He didn't sit and randomly jumped on a bandwagon. His thought process is well-thought out, etc. He obviously is scum-hunting.

i thought scum try to scum-hunt as well as opposed to randomly jumping on bandwagons, silly me

mala loses points in my book for this, she's not that stupid

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Shocked that miss marangal is part of this hydra, please choose one hydra and stick to it if you have to conantly hydra.

LOL
are you aware youre saying that to someone with 18 hydras?

And instead of making a jokey faux post restriction post how about one of your heads explains your vote on me.

sure. xegarus was scum, and your catchup wall also reads like scum who tries too much to appear town.

also i dont like your "dart you have too many town reads". whats wrong with that? are you frustrated that town are figuring out who's town?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

itt L wants secret hydras yet altslips anyway

I didn't do it on purpose :/

we have all played with him at least once I believe

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

His posts in felt town. He didn't sit and randomly jumped on a bandwagon. His thought process is well-thought out, etc. He obviously is scum-hunting.

i thought scum try to scum-hunt as well as opposed to randomly jumping on bandwagons, silly me

mala loses points in my book for this, she's not that stupid

R~

Screw off.

I played with him before, have you?

ooooh so now its meta!
and why exactly didnt you mention that in the first place?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

but didnt you just say that "youve played with him"? thats a meta reason.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Hydra, so I am clear, your issue with me is because of my previous self correct?

i think i made it pretty clear that my issue with you is both because of your previous self and your current self.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

telo your play is a little weird, but sure, i get what you mean. i still dont like how youre worried about appearing town however - in this case you claim you want to be transparent because of what people told you.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

And why is dart "very town"?

i find his townhunting very genuine - he wants to establish townreads so he can root out scum. its a good thing to do when scum dont exactly stand out. scum on the other hand arent usually too large on giving out townreads.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: Fuduzn

Pedit: well, I was trying to keep it a secret...

and yeah, you kinda are

Alright y'all mothahfuckas, M is in the hizhouse!

Da fuck ya doin Telo? Stop bein so mothafuckin La-z and git scumhuntin

Yo Gar, stop makin fluff and empty promises

Xegarus needs a gud 2 shot down da throat. I don' wanna hear none of y'all mothafuckas denying it

Dart, what demon possessed you to unvote that mothafuckin scum? Ya don't give scum a "fair chance" ya give em a mothafuckin bullet down da throat

Mala needs da gun 2 jus lyk her bud xeg ovah there. She best be bussin her teammate or ima have her head.

I dont give 2 fucks bout the rest o y'all mothafuckas rite now, u all b null.



~M~

im becoming less sure about egg, though i dont like how he tries hard to show how town he is, how he's "scumhunting" and how his actions are actually townish. he cares too much about how he appears, and thats a scum trait.

however i think xegarus is scum. his posts feel like they're done just for the sake of posting. 24, 45 and 48 are essentially fluff, and so is 55 for the most part. in the end of 55 xeg asks others to give their reads instead of giving his own reads on what has happened - he only gives one. then he forgets his rvs vote(lets say we buy that) and from that point all his posts are self-defence regarding that.
tl;dr: enough posts to not be considered a lurker, almost zero content, self-defending that isnt really needed, lack of stances.

i wanna know what the other heads think too, but ill do this anyway

UNVOTE:
VOTE: xegarus

R~

There u go sugah.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Us alignment dont change if u swap playas, u no that rite?

Ain't no need to explain it.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Da fact u be tryna force us to read yo shit only fo yo slot is scum as fuck

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Dat wagon is scum as fuck

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Cuz you're the townie on that wagon

wrong beyond wrong

but you are the townie on that wagon.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

But Shiny still hasn't explained why FuDuzn is scummy, and keeps ignoring my questioning of this. That is the major player I have with them.

And fundamently I don't like hydras but when you know the heads you can at least make an educated read on them, keeping the three heads secret is an unfair advantage imo.

Okay, done being black.

You're asking us to read just you as if the person who played in your slot before was never there, no? Well, thta doesn't happen. He was scummy as fuck and you've done nothing to change that. The fact you're getting all defensive over that and not trying to scumhunt is scummy though.

As for not knowing the heads to make an educated guess, you aren't getting them so you better suck it up, buttercup.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

No, but you've done nothing to change my opinion.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Okay, done being black.

If we could keep racist bullshit like this out of the game I would greatly appreciate it.

Aye, sorry lass.

Fu needs to be fed to the Loch.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Feeding to the loch=throwing them in

Funny how you puy so much effort in a PL vote when the rest of your stuff is this bad.

Let me know when your hissy fit is done.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Bt dubbs, y'all just got SERVED

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

._.

Telo pushing a PL, and OMGUS'ing while really not commenting on the game

interesting

Fu, we did give a reason to why you're scum and so far, your response is "I've been doing all these things right, and you guys don't have any solid evidence that I'm scum"

you know what that sounds like to me?

caught scum who feels like they are being suspected for allllllll the wrong reasons

you need to die, you were not like this at all in polygamist
~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Telo, why are you taking M's trolling so damn seriously?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Beli, Dart, Mala, Come join us on Fudu, this scummy scum butt needs to die

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

No

you're commenting on how annoying players are in the game, not what they are specifically doing that is/isn't scummy

and M didn't bring Racism, into the game, or didn't intend to. He just wanted to troll

meanwhile, there are alot of other stuff that are worth commenting on moreso the non-important thing of how M is talking, which is what you should be talking about

like your reads on people, and why

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Telo, are you reading the game?

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

It still has nothing to do with the game

talk about it post game, not now.

as for the Baezu wagon, I am not really liking the speed of it, first off. It feels like it's growing way to fast, though I'm conflicted because he's been sitting at L-1 for quite some time ( I think) and no one has yet to state the intent to hammer ect

I also do not like how our collective top scum-read is one of the main leaders of the wagon, nor do I like how's it's pushed.

M is going to explain who he thinks who scum is on the wagon, because I think Fudu really is the most likely, and I'm doubting that that Telo would vote right after her partner

and I am town reading Beli and Dart so 3rd and 4th on a wagon scum-tell isn't applicable here

[Shiny Hydreigon]

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

So, this wasnt a problem in these posts, why is it a problem now? I think youre halfassing this game or youre scum looking for bad reasons to be off the leading wagons. Stop advancing you agenda and play the game.

I've had the team as Baezu and Dart ever since post 136.

Dart claims it's Baezu or Gar but takes Baezu off of L-1 in favor of voting Fu. Why is that? Because they're buddies.

(why would I put him at L1 if we were buds?)

bussing for town cred with no intention of going through with it. Ready to jump off the wagon as soon as someone declared intend or even before if you could make a half way convincing argument.

Why did you put Beazu at L-1

reluctantly

if he's your top read?

And to let some of the cat out of the bag I scum hunt by drawing attention to myself. I feel as I get the most real reactions and reads when people are talking about me.

That makes 100% sense and it's what I do as well.

It's much easier to get reads from people who are talking to or about me.
This is why I didn't care about the pressure votes. I courted those votes then used them as bait to wait for mafia to make up a bs reason to jump on the wagon. Bait hunting is still hunting.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

You havent been playing nearly as hard as you have been trying to push yout agenda.

I said a place to sit off the leading wagons (ie baezu)

[Shiny Hydreigon]

You sure deniunced me. Ouch, the pain. Ill never be racist again.

Jk. The fact youre so hung up over this is moronic and unnecessary noise. Its a waste of time and feels like scum.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

You sure deniunced me. Ouch, the pain. Ill never be racist again.

Jk. The fact youre so hung up over this is moronic and unnecessary noise. Its a waste of time and feels like scum.

If you're gonna knock it off with the racist crap it wasn't unnecessary. It served a good purpose.

FWIW I only stopped because you were bringing unnecessary noise to the game, I really don't care about your hissy fit.

I agree Egg.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Man the life has been sucked out of this game.

Let us simplify things here, today we lynch either Fuduzn or Fuduzn and Tomorrow we worship the hydra for showing us the light, capiche?

Seriously, go read through the game and tell me almost everything that my slot has post isn't scummy. And lol at Baezu asking Egg for advice as well.

And never been told I have an ego before, I just know I am thoroughly awesome.

FTFY

[Shiny Hydreigon]

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

the deadline is in 2 days btw guys.
are we going to lynch anyone?
can we lynch fuduzn?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Hydra, you either know you are wrong or scum.

huh?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I think everyone not voting Fu is being antitown, that's what I think.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

baezu's last posts were just terrible, especially the unvote. i think the most likely case is fuduzn/baezu, but baezu is scum regardless.

intending to vote baezu after i talk with the other heads

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: baezu

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: fuduzn

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

whether baezu is lying or not we will find out. but we're not lynching her today.
vote fuduzn guys.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

baezu youre still not voting fuduzn. what happened to "ill lynch anyone"?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

she also has stated she will lynch

anyone

other than herself

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

and i should care about that because..?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

nah. you asked her why she only wants to lynch two people. i asked her why she isnt voting you. they are similar questions, but not identical. if you thought im not allowed to ask questions because theyre similar to yours, think again.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Stop.pushing.my.lynch.......you are being antitown

how the fuck is pushing a lynch of a scumread antitown?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

and why do you even care if we're antitown or not? if you think we're scum, vote us. what does

telling us

we're antitown accomplish?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

First by refusing to reveal the heads and later by dominating conversation with its tunnelvision. Neither of these seem very town to me.

revealing the heads has nothing to do with this game and therefore has nothing to do with our alignment.
dominating conversation also has nothing to do with alignment and is more relevant to playstyle.

You are pushing a lynch with very little to no reasoning and one that no one besides you supports.

Focus on actually scummy players and stop being anti town.

youre the actually scummy player, if the others dont see it theyre stupid and theyre the ones being antitown.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

So, you not only vote for a PL

You call our slot useless when that's all you've been

And you have ONE scumread, why? Because it's easier for scum to townhunt rather than scumhunt. Here's the funny bit- You're voting a PL over a scumread. What town does that?

"None of these reads are set in stone"- aka I can change them if I have to so I can get in closer with the town.

Brilliant post Telo, you're really showing us your true colors.

Going to check with my other heads to see what they think.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

UNVOTE:
Going camping for the weekend so V/LA
Should be back on Sunday but just say Monday to be sure. I'm not taking any devices with me so I won't be caught up when I get back so that's why I'm giving myself until Monday.

The unvote is because my last vote was omgus. My real vote is on Bae but I'm hoping the day won't end before I get back. Also hoping that there will be a replacement for Gar by then. Have a good weekend folks.

You were OMGUSing us and now voting to PL us. Dart's town so that whole point is bullshit, as are most of your reads.

You essentially just said you have no scumreads, making my point earlier about your townhunting all the more prominent.

"This will be the best lynch given the info we have so far" When the ONLY reason you've voted us isn't because we're scummy, it's because you were butthurt over my trolling. You haven't said we were scummy, you've just been PL voting us all day and are returning to it. So, scum. Care to selfvote for me now? Every time you post you just make my case all the stronger.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Tell me, scum. Why so OMGUS? Johog votes you and you say he's scummy, I make you mad and you say we're scummy. It looks to me like scum vying for any traction.

BOth of those votes were total bullshit and you know it. You're just spewing more and more to try and cover it up.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

telo, M has a point. if you have a suspect, you dont go after a PL. also its bullshit that we have posted nothing - our reads have been constantly clear. that comparing to your posts with no reads, no explaining, posts that blatantly state "i have nothing to say, these posts told me nothing" and others that state "omg i think i appear totally scummy but i dont care how i appear" is ridiculous and cannot be done. your posts are noise, ours are not. the only part of our posts that can be considered noise is M's trolling - but deal with it, the game needs its fun once in a while. im willing to think that you might be town scared of hydras, ive met such people and even mislynched some thinking theyre scum, but in that case, snap out of it. being a hydra composed of different players who post different things equals neither scum nor useless slot.

that said, we have 19 hours left, so everyone should fucking get to voting.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

How have we twisted your words?

And why are we all of a sudden scum to you for PL reasons?

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: telo
i dont think shes flipping scum, but not much choice now.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I think besides myself Shiny is the most useless slot in the game

Telo, if anyone is full of shit it's you. Your entire reads post was you saying "oh well they are worse than me becoz trolling and omg I butthurt cryvote you because you offend my roots!!!111!1!1" And it's amusing you think you've been any use to town at all. Your reads list has no legitimate scumreads, The majority of your posts have been total and utter shit, and you have the fucking gall to say that we were more useless than you? Regardless of use to town, here's the difference between us. You're scum. We're town.

You know what else? You say "their flip will be the most informative" not that it will get scum. You don't even elaborate on whose alignments it can inform about. If anyone at all has been useless to town, it's you. We've all stated our opinions. If you flip town after how you've played today, I shudder to think of what you play like as scum.

Mala, what the fuck was that post? There's two problems with it. 1- Telo isn't town, she' scum. 2- You didn't even give a case for it, nor did you say to lynch anyone else.

Baezu your scumread on us is shit too, but that's a given.

Tl;dr- Telo will flip scum and all her uselessness will then be explained to you all, Mala and Bae are having shitposts recently.

Also- this cockiness is indicative of knowledge, which scum have and it makes me feel like whoever Telo's partner is will not be one of our prime suspects.

~M~

P-edit

Damnit, ignore what I've said about mala. It's slightly decent reasoning, but without games to analyze it's not great. Still doesn't say someone else to lynch though.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I am here and will lynch Telo or Fu but I'm not taking anyone else.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Mala, what about an Egg lynch?

Do we have enough support for it?

Not here.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

*That was M btw, idk what the other two thing*

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Yeah and before I go ~M. (If I go)

In no way shape or form did you insult my roots. Your ignorant blather doesn't reflect my heritage.. To tell you the truth I just thought you were an idiot. You haven't said or done anything to change that opinion. The defense of your ignorance is the most pathetic thing about you.

You're the one who can't take a joke. Spoiler alert- Racism happens. You bitching about it doesn't change shit.

That hammer was shit because she never claimed, but I really don't give a shit what she wanted to fakeclaim.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

At least you admit that you're an idiot. Knowing is half the battle.

You want to go or think you're the big woman on campus for calling someone an idiot?

This isn't preschool anymore, in case you haven't realized. The fact I don't waste energy proving lost causes wrong means nothing.

tl;dr- Congratz that I didn't flinch at your idiot claim, seeing as this isn't the playground anymore.

Now enjoy the rope, scum.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Racists are realists.

FTFY

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Here's what's funny

You know I'm winning so you're sitting in the corner yelling "no you're an idiot"

Bang-up job though scum, it's given me a great laugh.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: fuduzn

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

pretty sure youre talking about a different hydreigon, because this one here has constantly told you to vote fuduzn all game, and has not followed any "popular opinions".
and no, you didnt explain your fuduzn vote.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Lol

The smell of the chainsaw reeks in the morning

1) "No reason for Fu vote"- So you're saying we should only read him for the slot? Not the predecessor, nothing?

2) Fu, if you'd been in this game all that long you'd still be scum, because you're more worried about why we think you're scum then finding scum

3) And Baezu, don't give us that bullshit when you'd been townreading us most of D1.

4) "Following wagons that are popular"- The fuck? So, trying to help GET A DEADLINE LYNCH is scummy? What about others who moved votes around trying to get things done, are they scum in your opinion?

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I'm going to make this VERY easy to understand

Jonny and timmy were playing basketball

Jonny got hurt and had to switch out

Jerry replaced jonny

Does that switch Jonny's team?

Xeg was scummy WHICH WE SAID, and Fu was crying to the heavens for us to read only his stuff which is scummy, as is worrying more about why we find him scummy then finding scum

Which is what scum do.

He already asked why we found HIM in specific post, which is scummy in and of itself.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Also, you have NOT been fud all game - your vote history is: egg, xeg, fud, bae, fud, telo, fud

egg vote was before xeg started being scummy
xeg = fud
bae vote was because people wouldnt join the fud wagon so we had to vote our second scumread
telo vote was compromise because deadline.

so, bullshit. we've been fud all game, but people are just not voting him. listen to him defending himself and calling us anti-town for pushing him. who the fuck does that?

and egg, given the nature of the lynch (deadline compromise lynch) i dont think the usual statistics apply.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

._.

Telo pushing a PL, and OMGUS'ing while really not commenting on the game

interesting

Fu, we did give a reason to why you're scum and so far, your response is "I've been doing all these things right, and you guys don't have any solid evidence that I'm scum"

you know what that sounds like to me?

caught scum who feels like they are being suspected for allllllll the wrong reasons

you need to die, you were not like this at all in polygamist
~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

For whoever asked us about our reasons, it was given so many times, by all three of us. M quoted his personal reasons for Fudu scum to

You still need to die, you should have died yesterday but we can rectify this by killing you today

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Funny thing is that you jumped off when telo was the wagon, as long as you got one mislynch you were happy.

what the fuck, seriously? telo was only a compromise vote because the alternative was no-lynch. i did not expect telo to flip scum and i said it. the only lynch i want is you, you're clearly scum and nobody cares about it.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

Hydra, they absolutely apply. I've seen a lot of deadline lynches and the two games I've found on the site so far that have all town Day 1 mislynch wagons are an RVS lynch and one that just kinda worked out that way for some reason. Not deadline lynches. Why are you trying to dismiss it? Something to hide?

deadline lynches mean that scum can freely vote or not vote the wagoned player without any reasoning, and that can result in all scum or no scum being on the wagon. same goes for the hammer - nobody is going to blame the hammerer for preventing a no-lynch and that gives scum free reign to hammer without any problems. thats why i dont think the usual vca stats apply, save for maybe the first wagon and even that is not certain.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

we visited fuduzn

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

dart continues being town with this line of thinking, and i think mala is too.

not sure about egg and johhog. egg in particular should know better than to encourage claiming in this situation.
johhog's hydra argument is bullshit, because there are other things to consider like apathy from some of the heads or one head being very convincing to the others but im not sure if he's just unfamiliar with hydras or scum trying to mislynch us.

i agree we should finish the claiming now that we started it, we should never have started it though.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

the dart votes are really terrible. beli might actually be scum for that vote.

@egg i think you should know better because you played in the previous run of this setup and the situation there was different than the one here. there the claiming would help, here with the doc alive and no n1 kill it wouldnt. i would think that you, with the experience from the previous game, would compare and realize this.

i agree that baezu continues being scummy. i see the two scum being in {fuduzn, baezu, beli} atm.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

johhog can join the definitely town next to dart, this confusion was not faked.

@474
the watcher might not use his ability n1 if he thinks scum are going to no-kill. other than that, theres no reason not to.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

for example, in the previous run of the setup, the watcher decided not to use it and more or less gave the win to scum by doing so.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

doctors cant self-protect, dart

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

i also just noticed that beli was the first one to bring up the possibility of a no-kill.
given that he was not in the first run, it rubs me the wrong way that he thought of it so easily.
maybe he thought of it because he's actually the scum who no-killed? hm?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

scum would clear any issues they had by asking the mod - then they could possibly attempt faking that they are confused about stuff inthread, but it would not come across as genuine anymore.

johhog's confusion is genuine.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

For me scum's Fudz

Fudz is meh.

vote him goddamnit

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

so since the "omg they're antitown let's get rid of them" approach didnt work, you're going for the buddying approach now?
nope.
you're scum.
also youre not even voting egg, what are you talking about?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

why is egg scum?
what is your read on beli and baezu?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

I think I must have pissed off one of the heads on another game.

Hydra, vote egg with me and lets be friends.

Why are you doing this?

you know me well enough that I won't be swayed by this kinda stuff, especially when it comes to people I'm preeetttty sure is scum and my partners are less likely to swayed by this kind of buddying.

You also think that we are scum, so why are you asking us to be your friend this game?

(and, considering I slipped this game, you should know who I am)


~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Hey guys, let's vote fud today and if he flips town we can get SH tomorrow.

...
i really want to think that this is just part of baezu's ridiculously anti-town playstyle, otherwise id be calling this comment obvscum.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

[omgus]http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Yeah, I'm not buying the Kool-Aid Baezu.

Tell me, why are you playing the nub omg watdoido yet there, as town, you seem perfectly confident?

Why are you sheeping anyone with a heartbeat?

Why are you buddying Dart?

Why are you giving excuses why you lived?

Hey Dart, you realize you have reasonings for Bae scum and instead vote us, right?

Going to talk to the other two first though before I vote.

~M~[/omgus]

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I am concerned about Shiny, however. From the start they've been a distraction, and they don't seem to care. The fact that they can blame others for pestering them has worked, so far, as an excuse...

You should see my main account.

But looking back, when Telo was quicklynched: rather than let Telo answer my question about reads or even just say some final words, Shiny continues to engage her in anti-town banter. He's soooo sure she's scum that he's taunting her even as we tighten the noose.

Weren't you voting her? Why vote her if you didn't think the same thing?

That's scum-certainty, right there. Gloating, tunneling. And now with Fudz. It reeks of scum realizing they can get away with, basically, whatever they like. Two nights more to a win, after all.

Because we totally can get away with anything we want, especially when people call us scummy because they're butthurt we won't reveal our heads. Gloating is fun, you should try it sometime. Tunneling is a scumtell, which means sheeping everything under the sun is a towntell, right? I personally have a tendency to tunnel on people, so meh. So what you're saying is, we're scum because I was tunneling with cockiness? Or is there something else I'm misunderstanding?

1) Fu isn't a weak player, he'll probably yell at you for saying that

2) Having confidence is scummy?

3) Spinning confusion? What?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

dart.
M continuing to fight with Telo after the lynch was just a ego thing of M who didnt want to let Telo win their personal fight.
as i said when i voted telo, she was just a compromise because otherwise we would have a no-lynch. i didnt think shes scum.
as for my certainty about fuduzn - you just have to trust me there. confidence is not a scumtell, there are tons of town who are very confident about their reads.

i dont know what to think of baezu, really. on one hand her play really feels fake to the point of it being ridiculously obvious that it's fake, on the other hand im scared to lynch her because she might be a PR. however, if we dont lynch her and keep her around in lylo, this will just be worse.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: baezu

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

He might disagree with this, but really lurky and less scum-hunty.

what scumhunting has he done this game..?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

I think the only reason they kept me alive is because I had such a poor d1 performance that scum was probably sure town would lynch me today.

so you dont think a doctor saved you anymore?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: Fuduzn

I'm still not on board with Bae, and I don't like how Fudz is a main advocate of that vote


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[Shiny Hydreigon]

Hey guys, let's vote fud today and if he flips town we can get SH tomorrow.

...
i really want to think that this is just part of baezu's ridiculously anti-town playstyle, otherwise id be calling this comment obvscum.

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Agreed, especially I really wouldn't call hydra at the top of my scum list, despite what has transpired.

Are you really trying to line up mislynches bae?

this is a shit post, and you completely ignored this head

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

im feeling worse about egg after his opportunistic vote, and his insistence about us being scummy is starting to look fake as well.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

UNVOTE:

im starting to think fuduzn might be town with his recent posts.
baezu's self-vote was definitely genuine, shes town.
im currently thinking its egg and mala.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: egg

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

I think I must have pissed off one of the heads on another game.

Hydra, vote egg with me and lets be friends.

Why are you doing this?

you know me well enough that I won't be swayed by this kinda stuff, especially when it comes to people I'm preeetttty sure is scum and my partners are less likely to swayed by this kind of buddying.

You also think that we are scum, so why are you asking us to be your friend this game?

(and, considering I slipped this game, you should know who I am)


~L

This post went unanswered by you.

I already slipped in thread, and I think my post is still sitting in the thread, I'm botched up the secrecy. there is only really one secret head left

as for that post, it was bad because of how you attacked baezu. You accused him of trying to set up mislynches when he stated that town will lynch you after we flip town. it's a weird accusation to make, especially after you thought we were scum for most of D1, and some of 2

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

1) I'm too young to drink

2) I was going all tunnely on Bae until I meta'd her and found she behaved similarly when under pressure in a newbie game. I did however initially believe the same a Johhog though.

3) I wanted to vote Mala more than Egg

4) Now L, they clearly only know one head.

Hmmm, that's about it.

~M~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I'll settle for SH, but under no circumstances will I vote Johhog or (now) Baezu, and it would take a hell of a good reason to make me vote FuDu.

what about egg?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

mala are you against an egg lynch?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

I have no idea who's scum, at this point..

what do you think about the egg/mala possibility?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

why not both?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

not here. i want to see an egg or mala lynch today.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

i dont think baezu is the alternative, egg. this seemed forced.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

^
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[Shiny Hydreigon]

scum is busing the living hell out of him.

i rather have your so called "buddy" hammer you instead

decide mala - is he being bussed already or will the buddy hammer?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

theres a difference between the two beli.
baezu is quite obviously an emotional player and self-voting cos of frustration would make sense for her as town.
egg on the other hand is not this kind of player and there's absolutely no reason for him to self-vote other than try and get towncred exactly because he saw baezu getting towncred from it.
and not to mention, egg's reason for self-voting is ridiculous. baezu is the not the counterwagon to him - only johhog stated he still intents to lynch her.

egg is scum, and it was forced.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

so you think egg is scum then?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

oh nvm you said you do.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

1 day remaining till the deadline btw

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: beli

either beli or mala

~R

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: mala

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

guess that explains why you were the first one to bring up the nokill possibility

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

hammer away baezu

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

i guess they assumed a N1

[Shiny Hydreigon]

i guess they assumed a N1 watch cos they were in the first game and the watcher didnt watch there and got killed afterwards.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

go ahead

and sorry for tunneling on you

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

gg

egg apparently thought we're the watcher and roleblocked us?

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