Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[CloudKicker]

lol not gonna read

[CloudKicker]

Alisae is in every game with 200+ pages

[CloudKicker]

oh wow thats a huge game

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i just read the mechanics, the setup is so cool nahdia has the best setups

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Basically we pick our roles

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oh crap mariar and gerry in an hydra, i cant just buddy the mariar head can i

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@math its because you underestimate what can be used as to push an agenda in this game, if i want to upset someone everything is game on

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I havent played a game of this magnitude ever, the lasrgest game i played was 16 i think and there were 3.5 mefias, can anyone give me some infos on what i should expect

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VOTE: vecna

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Cloud adds 100 more pages to the game.

planning on it

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yeah ok Alisae is actually town im putting that on my srs reads list

Math is town too. im gonna poe this shit i dont have any good scumreads. kyouko is one from forever ago

i scumread kyouko everygame its okay

[CloudKicker]

theres every often some mefias on and off every lynches @leon

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yeah ok Alisae is actually town im putting that on my srs reads list

Math is town too. im gonna poe this shit i dont have any good scumreads. kyouko is one from forever ago

i scumread kyouko everygame its okay

Explain the Vecna vote.

Can you just wait for the guy to ask him himself

[CloudKicker]

so far i dont like yuris and leons tone

[CloudKicker]

nancy looks as much as obvious town she did in our only mutual game outside this one

[CloudKicker]

Alisae, did you see that

[CloudKicker]

it was in its natural habitat

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Gerry please... What eva he can take the lead I'ma go back to my anime
~Maria

hi bae

[CloudKicker]

at first i thought vecna was mefia but i think he towntold imo and yes hes forced, yuri is what im thinking

[CloudKicker]

First time you even called me scum

[CloudKicker]

Ever* i meant in all the games we played, i wont read 300s pages

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I dont like how vecna ignored my vote and really didnt game it any attention. In all his subsequents posts he also almost never referred to my slot or outed an opinion kyoukos

[CloudKicker]

Alisa/luv/crature/nancy are transparent reads for me

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alis is the only one where i got bit recently because i dont like pushing on ppl i know early on, luv looks like his habitual town self exactly like Vecna told, he also has a bad habit to go againts the grain d1 and cling onto the fact that he townread the first mislynch as to proves that he has good reads and/or hes town, he does that as town

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Hey nancy, can you points to me relevant stuff regarding the yuri wagon

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@nancy

Spoiler:

In post 1552, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.15

Yuri (5): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Fro99er
beeboy (4): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Creature
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, Maxous, beeboy, Nero Cain
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (4): Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 1602, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.16

Yuri (5): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Fro99er
beeboy (4): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Creature
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, Maxous, beeboy, Nero Cain
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (4): Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 1658, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.17

Yuri (5): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Fro99er
Akane and Nebby (5): Yuri, Maxous, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
beeboy (4): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Creature
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (3): Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpa

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 1719, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.18

Yuri (5): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Fro99er
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
beeboy (4): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Creature
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (3): Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpa

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 1930, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.19

Yuri (5): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Vecna, Fro99er, Akane and Nebby
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Creature
ssbm_Kyouko (2): Maxous, Spiffeh
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (3): ooba, NoticeMeSenpa, Elbirn

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2005, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.20

Yuri (5): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Vecna, Fro99er, Akane and Nebby
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Creature
ssbm_Kyouko (2): Maxous, Spiffeh
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (3): ooba, NoticeMeSenpa, Elbirn

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2081, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.21

Yuri (4): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Fro99er, Akane and Nebby
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Creature
ssbm_Kyouko (2): Maxous, Spiffeh
Vecna (2): Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Vecna
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (2): ooba, Elbirn

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2150, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.22

Yuri (5): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Fro99er, Akane and Nebby, Vecna
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Creature
ssbm_Kyouko (2): Maxous, Spiffeh
Vecna (2): Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (2): ooba, Elbirn

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2257, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.23

Yuri (6): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Fro99er, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
beeboy (2): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV
Sondam (2): Drixx, Creature
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade

Not Voting (3): ooba, Elbirn, NoticeMeSenpai

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2325, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.24

Yuri (6): Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Fro99er, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh
Akane and Nebby (4): Yuri, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
beeboy (2): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV
Sondam (2): Drixx, Creature
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
The DEO (1): Sondam
Fro99er (1): Leonshade

Not Voting (3): ooba, Elbirn, NoticeMeSenpai

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2595, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.25

Yuri (7): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri
Akane and Nebby (2): Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
Sondam (2): Drixx, Creature
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (3): ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2626, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.26

Yuri (7): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri
Akane and Nebby (2): Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage
Sondam (2): Drixx, Creature
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (3): ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2655, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.27

Yuri (8): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri
Sondam (2): Drixx, Creature
Akane and Nebby (1): Albert B. Rampage
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (3): ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2702, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.28

Yuri (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Creature
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri
Sondam (1): Drixx
Akane and Nebby (1): Albert B. Rampage
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (3): ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2750, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.29

Yuri (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Creature
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri
Sondam (1): Drixx
Akane and Nebby (1): Albert B. Rampage
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (3): ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 2801, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.30

Yuri (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Creature
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri
Sondam (1): Drixx
Akane and Nebby (1): Albert B. Rampage
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (3): ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 3008, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.31

Yuri (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Leonshade
beeboy (3): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri
Vecna (2): Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai
davesaz (1): Creature
The DEO (1): Albert B. Rampage
Sondam (1): Drixx
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (2): davesaz, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 3075, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.32

Yuri (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Leonshade
beeboy (4): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Albert B. Rampage
Vecna (2): Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai
davesaz (1): Creature
Sondam (1): Drixx
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (2): davesaz, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 3150, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.33

Yuri (8): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Leonshade
beeboy (5): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Albert B. Rampage, Spiffeh
Vecna (2): Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai
Creature (1): davesaz
davesaz (1): Creature
Sondam (1): Drixx
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn

Not Voting (1): Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.


In post 3226, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 1.34

beeboy (5): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Albert B. Rampage, Spiffeh
Yuri (4): Vecna, beeboy, Nero Cain, Leonshade
Caesar Wills It (3): Fro99er, Akane and Nebby, The DEO
Vecna (2): Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai
Spiffeh (1): Lil Uzi Vert
Creature (1): davesaz
davesaz (1): Creature
Sondam (1): Drixx
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Maxous
NoticeMeSenpai (1): Elbirn


The way it's built without any counterwagons and sits there at L-1 comfortably for so long before falling apart just doesn't happen if Town aren't lynching Town. There'd be at most 1 scum on the wagon.

It points to yuri being town and probably vecna since he fliped, this doesnt points to the whole wagon being town tho, id say one who never budged and prob one who got opportunist close to 8-9 person

[CloudKicker]

i want sodam to get in there and explain me theirs view on the game atm

[CloudKicker]

nancy...
BaeReed isn't scum here.
Can you trust me on this?

youre implying you have a good meta read on reed

[CloudKicker]

Vecna was pushing ABR btw, when the wagon on him starts he jumps on beeboy as the 7th/8th vote.

Vecna (6):

Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai, Fro99er, Albert B. Rampage, Akane and Nebby, Yuri

My only SR here is Notice.

Which is followed quickly by counterwagons and:

Spoiler:

In post 4225, Nahdia wrote:
(thanks creature!!)

Lynch Vote 1.47

Albert B. Rampage (7): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, Creature, The DEO, Leonshade, beeboy, Caesar Wills It
beeboy (6): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Elbirn, Albert B. Rampage, Fro99er
Vecna (2): NoticeMeSenpai, Yuri
Yuri (1): Nero Cain
Lil Uzi Vert (1): Sondam
Creature (1): Maxous
Sondam (1): Drixx

Not Voting (2): Akane and Nebby, davesaz

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Then beeboy is lynched.

if we are im correct and yuri/vec are town from what you quoted, leaves alis/pine/notice

[CloudKicker]

@Notice can you sign your posts please, i have meta on reed and not on the other head

[CloudKicker]

VOTE: notice

[CloudKicker]

THIS IS A VCA BATTLE TO THE DEATH!!!!

pedit hence my SR on Notice and why I'm pressuring Caesar right now.

i think your premise is correct but not the conclusion, gamestate tells me pine is prob town

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That but among other things which I am not sharing Cloudie.
pedit: Cloudie it's all BaeReed. It's a teaching hydra. BaeReed explained this multiple times. Also really shitty vote Cloudie.
pedit2: Can I post?

Implying hidden infos, if you really have anything that clears anyone its better to just out it then to flaunt it for numerous posts alis, i also didnt read anything before my replace in like i stated

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Also if you call my votes shitty its again, implying you have knowledge i dont have, you cant call my vote shitty if i dont have the same infos you have

[CloudKicker]

Alis can you answer to what i said about reed? i dont have too much time tonight

[CloudKicker]

Creature can you roughly explain me your reads on both of us

[CloudKicker]

Reed why are you ignoring my vote?

[CloudKicker]

Reed why are you ignoring my vote?

Why do you expect him to react to it?

Why wouldnt i ? it was a naked vote and from an analysis of someone else, he posted like 10 posts after it and disregarded me completly

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Hi gin

[CloudKicker]

I am Joey_ too

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Because i was pages away when i just loged in and addressed things that was directed at me, aka 8498

[CloudKicker]

Also i think youre a pretty transparent player so its all good, i expect you to be pretty active

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Reed why are you ignoring my vote?

Why do you expect him to react to it?

Why wouldnt i ? it was a naked vote and from an analysis of someone else, he posted like 10 posts after it and disregarded me completly

Well what does his lack of a reaction tell you?

What makes you think I'm lurking right now?
If anything the thread just has low activity atm so I'm just here chilling.
Why do you expect me to comment on just about every single thing?

I saw you immediately jump at CK's question with a counter question and was like "damn that was jumpy"

As long as I'm on the thread, yes you're supposed to comment on every single thing >_>

A. Okay and?
B. I SWEAR TO GAWD GIN YOU ARE NOT A PRETTY PRINCESS! -_-

in my in-house scumtells book its a scumtell

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Reed why are you ignoring my vote?

Why do you expect him to react to it?

Why wouldnt i ? it was a naked vote and from an analysis of someone else, he posted like 10 posts after it and disregarded me completly

Well what does his lack of a reaction tell you?

What makes you think I'm lurking right now?
If anything the thread just has low activity atm so I'm just here chilling.
Why do you expect me to comment on just about every single thing?

I saw you immediately jump at CK's question with a counter question and was like "damn that was jumpy"

As long as I'm on the thread, yes you're supposed to comment on every single thing >_>

A. Okay and?
B. I SWEAR TO GAWD GIN YOU ARE NOT A PRETTY PRINCESS! -_-

im a pretty princess, any cc?

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The fact that i explicitly said in-house is to avoid people asking me why alisae

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Theres also different reason and ways you can ignore someone fosing you. Theres the town way like me when i ignored pokemon and theres the scum way

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When you are lurking and under the radar and one townie out of the blue points your face with his finger, you dont necessarily want to engage them for multiple reasons. You dont want to really discredit their reads in case it might just fuel their reads further, same with engaging with them. You dont want to give attentio nor value to said read in hope that the other townies doesnt see it etc thats the basic logic behind it. When im ignoring someone who foses me its because i know theyre town and i know theyre completly on their head, not the case here. Vecna did the same thing but he also comented about my vote with an emojis. This might seems like nothing but its better than ignoring someone

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I actually concur with CK here, I hate naked votes in all forms and people will generally call me scummy for it but allowing people to naked vote means you can't tell if someone is genuinely scum reading someone or trying to pull one out their ass.

no you dont concur and dont get to buddy me 10 min into your replace-in

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I actually concur with CK here, I hate naked votes in all forms and people will generally call me scummy for it but allowing people to naked vote means you can't tell if someone is genuinely scum reading someone or trying to pull one out their ass.

Pine aka ceasure is the major wagon atm, please check the last 20 pages and tell me what you think about gamestate and his reads

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CLOUDIE HE DID THE THINGY!
GARRYBOTE HE DID THE THINGY!

thats 2 who did it, the tell being more than 50% accurate i bet my macaroni at least one is mefia

[CloudKicker]

Cloudie what do you think about the gamestate and what even are your reads?

I hard townread nancy and shes pretty much my foundations for all my reads, i wont read all those 300 pages so i needed that. I think that youre fairly coasty and normaly you are more engaging, but thats also how youve been playing in your recents games regardless of alignement so i havent sorted you atm. I dont like your incessants rethoric questions as if it gave any new content, it doesnt

I might look like an asshole but Elberin reason to sub out is irrelevant, i think that when people are overjustifying their sub out its AI as if they still care about the strategic outcomes of their sub out. Town feels way less responsible for the win or loss of their factions by the sheer numbers they represent in their facitons, its most likely coming from mefia who want to explain their lurkiness, ive done that.

Im pretty certain i can sort luv and creature on a whim the moment i iso them
I feel like pine should be town for gamestate, wagons, speed of wagons, if hes mefia id say leon teamtold with them. If leon is mefia with pine i think youre conf town
I think sodam is a bad lynch and wagon, i think nancy's logic on the wagon is fine and it leads to notice being a mefiay, i think notice's answer or rather non answer to my fos is mefay.

[CloudKicker]

I concur

Spoiler: I concur

[CloudKicker]

Looks like gin trying to release the pressure of my calling his concuring out, as if it was banal etc, this is all implicit

[CloudKicker]

Also math hasnt directly engaged me which is odd, i havent either tho so hi math

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I mean of course, my pushing on the Math slot practically guarantees that they aren't going to be a scum NK (if they were town) but I (and I speak for the whole town here) doesn't know when town will get another vig shot...if we ever get one again so they should have been willing and overjoyed to get shot at last night.

are you saying you actually townread math? as if you wanted to let him not-nkd

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I hard townread nancy and shes pretty much my foundations for all my reads,

you're town but your reads suck.

lol nope my reads are great

[CloudKicker]

Looks like gin trying to release the pressure of my calling his concuring out, as if it was banal etc, this is all implicit

So in your books, if I agree with you because I hold a philosophy that lines up with what you're saying, it's scummy; so then if only people disagreed with you, that'd be townie?

It doesn't make any sense

Nope, i was saying about you using the very same word "concur" in your next 2-3 posts after i said not to buddy me. It felt like you wanted to discredit my reads on you as if you saying that was normal, banal and ultimately non-ai

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I think that youre fairly coasty and normaly you are more engaging, but thats also how youve been playing in your recents games regardless of alignement so i havent sorted you atm.

Then sort me buddy!
Akane and Nebby ISO:
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i dont need meta

[CloudKicker]

Also even if Math is scum they shouldn't be lynched, they should get vigged btw.
pedit: that's not meta Cloudie those are my ISOs this game.

i assumed 2 games because 2 links oupsy

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Looks like gin trying to release the pressure of my calling his concuring out, as if it was banal etc, this is all implicit

So in your books, if I agree with you because I hold a philosophy that lines up with what you're saying, it's scummy; so then if only people disagreed with you, that'd be townie?

It doesn't make any sense

Nope, i was saying about you using the very same word "concur" in your next 2-3 posts after i said not to buddy me. It felt like you wanted to discredit my reads on you as if you saying that was normal, banal and ultimately non-ai

It's called being a smart ass because you said I was buddying you when I agreed with something you said.

Yea i know, also a manipulative way to discredit me. being a smart ass is implying you are above someone or something

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are you saying you actually townread math? as if you wanted to let him not-nkd

no I am scum reading Math. I'm saying that I'm town and on the off chance that Math is town then scum wouldn't nk it so that I continue pushing that slot and if I ever get flipped ppl would know my reads are genuine and might go after Math.

But II still think Math is scum. Nancy's rhetoric about how bad my push is prob means scumbuddies.

Do you have any way to read people off tone ? you called me town yet i think nancy outed better content than i did since i replaced-in. Math i havent read onto yet

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Your read on you stems from having thousands of hours in playtime analysing how people talks and try to discredit other peoples in chat mefias, youre acting as if it was a serious read when im just being transparent with my reads youre the one being riled up mr gin

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Your read on you stems from having thousands of hours in playtime analysing how people talks and try to discredit other peoples in chat mefias, youre acting as if it was a serious read when im just being transparent with my reads youre the one being riled up mr gin

my read*

[CloudKicker]

Epicmefia dot com

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Your read on you stems from having thousands of hours in playtime analysing how people talks and try to discredit other peoples in chat mefias, youre acting as if it was a serious read when im just being transparent with my reads youre the one being riled up mr gin

If you're being transparent you're being serious, do those two not co-exist or are they somehow mutually exclusive?

Spoiler:

Where'd you play to get over 1000 hours holy shit

My read is serious, doesnt mean im its mefia ai per se

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I haven't used nor will I use "I haven't read up" as a reason to not participate.

you can still participate even if you didnt read

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the urges to make sodomy jokes is pretty damn high atm @nero

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Did you seriously just cut out the part of the same sentence where I said i was participating to make that remark?

yes lol and i dont even remember the rest of it, i just wanted to put that emoji

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'Sodomy (/ˈsɒdəmi/) is generally anal or oral sex between people or sexual activity between a person and a non-human animal (bestiality), but it may also mean

any non-procreative sexual activity

.[1][2][3]"

i learn something. So me flirting with mariar is sodomy

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inb4 i get force replaced for my bad humor with 2 many beers under the hood lole

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Its actually Sondam but yeah....

partypooper

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Not more impact if you target a mefia, its just that statistically you would get more mefias per target in the late game and thats all only valid if you arent confident in your reads. Mefia would try to get math early on for the very same reasons so saving up that ability is not a good plan

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hm okay but this isnt my read VOTE: ceasar

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i thought peregrine was treestump lynched

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i thought reed was the one teaching

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i thought reed was the one teaching

mastina is like a goddess of mafia...Everyone always brings something but a mastina hydra is like epic.

im the god then

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alis is the only one where i got bit recently because i dont like pushing on ppl i know early on, luv looks like his habitual town self exactly like Vecna told, he also has a bad habit to go againts the grain d1 and cling onto the fact that he townread the first mislynch as to proves that he has good reads and/or hes town, he does that as town

Did you read all 350 pages or my entire iso for you to be aware of this?

This looks hella informed for someone that just replaced in...

Didnt, i read when i replaced in

[CloudKicker]

Creature im waiting for you input on my slot

[CloudKicker]

Macous vote on me looks like proxy omgus, just because im sheeping nancy doesnt mean its nott valid to do so

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Me being a replace in and naked voting + my non chalant attitude makes me a great possible counterwagon. Creature has been casting shade on me for a good 3/4 posts now, i addressed it yet nothing, he also scumread ceasar and i voted that slot he should prob trust me a bit over trying to find a reason to hop out of ceasar

@maxous can you elaborate on your kyouko scumread

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What I miss?

I skimmed and saw some shade from Cloud and Caesar implying he scum reads me.

Skim again because you misread

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he does that as town

may i lend you some glasses

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Macous vote on me looks like proxy omgus, just because im sheeping nancy doesnt mean its nott valid to do so

Uhh
1) how the hell is it "proxy omgus" when I've been voting your predecessor - something you acknowledged you're aware of.
2) sheeping is one thing. Making it explicitly clear that this is not your vote so when Pine flips town "

you can't blame me

" is another thing entirely.

Kyouko was scum because he fluff posted for practically the entire game and had bad votes on both mislynches

kyouko wasnt scum because of the role pm, i didnt read a second of what my pred did and idc, if you push me for my pred behaviors then dont be surprised if i scumread you back when you dont try to read me

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@luv it was a meta town lean read

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lol the fuck

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Did you even actually try to read my post or just go ham because you think i shaded you. Its all implying that you would change a long lasting read you had on kyouko just for a pred not townreading you, even if its not the case.

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I might claim grudge on that tbh, mefia wouldnt push someone on the basis of something that is clearly false

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Macous vote on me looks like proxy omgus, just because im sheeping nancy doesnt mean its nott valid to do so

Uhh
1) how the hell is it "proxy omgus" when I've been voting your predecessor - something you acknowledged you're aware of.
2) sheeping is one thing. Making it explicitly clear that this is not your vote so when Pine flips town "

you can't blame me

" is another thing entirely.

Kyouko was scum because he fluff posted for practically the entire game and had bad votes on both mislynches

You said you scumread cesar didnt you?

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nvm im mixing with creature

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maxous vote is really dumb so is luv's, creature shade on me and the structures of his looks much more like mefias

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Luv, there isnt a singel game we played together where youve been above average regardless of your alignement or mine, everytime i was mefia i buddied you and you hard townread me for the major part of those games, when youve been tunneling me is recently when i fliped town. I didnt cast shade, i said you were prob town for doing the same exact thing you did in that backstabber game and i did townread you correctly that game, refusing to see what i meant is dishonest and like i said, im pretty sure youve got a grudge

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""luv looks like his habitual town self exactly like Vecna told, he also has a bad habit to go againts the grain d1 and cling onto the fact that he townread the first mislynch as to proves that he has good reads and/or hes town, he does that as town"

Do you seriously think that the intent behind this content is moreso to try and discredit you

when youve been townread my pred at that moment, when i didnt even see any other reads you outed, as if i needed to actively discredit your reads as mefia when its attached to your name that your reads arent credibles

or that maybe i was just outing a read on someone i think is extremely transparent in his games ? that i have quit a lot of meta and where he did something exactly the same way he did the very last game we played ? Are you still going to be so obstinated and be a boulder for your win con?

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Nah thats completly bullshit, you didnt get a hard read on my replace-in, you arent even that type of guys to get hard reads. You arent the type either to change their long lasting reads on a slot just because youre misreading something i said, this is insulting my intelligence and insulting yours if you really really want me to believe youre doing this as town and genuinely

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The fact that you are completly blind, obstinated, never reconsider anything, cant take criticism makes you literal negative utility every time you flip town

[CloudKicker]

Youre really doing this again

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Luv looks like his habitual town self exactly like Vecna told, he also has a bad habit to go againts the grain d1 and cling onto the fact that he townread the first mislynch as to proves that he has good reads and/or hes town, he does that as town"

casting shade 2017

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If anything luv should understand exactly and explicitly why i thought he would be town for doing that, yet hes saying im casting shade this is bs and im annoyed

[CloudKicker]

Context isnt diffenrent, youre being a lil stubborn shit and being compeltly non sens

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yo Cloudie my man, if you find my non-reaction to your RVS vote to be a scumtell then you should be voting Maxous. I even gave reasons I think he's scum and he still hasn't reacted to my vote despite apparently thinking I'm town. He did take the time to shade Alisae though... so ignored me but not someone else voting him. Maxous is scum.

@Cloudkicker

saw that, not sure what you were expecting me to say

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Wish I could find my scum laughing in the background comment.

Why don't you wanna kill Maxous with me ;~;

I think he's town

Why?

He's consistently gone against the grain various times and his scum reads sound genuine. Also the way he was wagoned at the start of D1 makes me believe he's town.

look at those reads, your projecting yourself and your bad habits

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luv maybe you might learn when you eventually get lynched everygame because you are a pain to deal with and cannot form single read that an be accepted by anyone in their right minds

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luv maybe you might learn when you eventually get lynched everygame because you are a pain to deal with and cannot form single read that an be accepted by anyone in their right minds

sheep us on Dave

the guy havent posted once in the last 30 pages, im not voting en empty slot with luv

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lol luv, alisae last 2 hydras were scums and he had to replace them because they (we) split out. Are yoi going to take that new information into account or just do your thing

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Hm no i didnt, i assumed you meant self-destruc as in splitting, nothing else

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how come i was ignored when i first talked about notice and now its caught on

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how come i was ignored when i first talked about notice and now its caught on

Because they are trying to make a counter wagon to Creature.

AFK most of the day

you mean ceasar

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Ugh, with the circumstances, I think it's better to stick with Caesar wagon anyway.

what circumstances, people going on and off ceasar?

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Math you do realize that if you are not vigged in the next few days you are getting lynched, right?

Don't stress Pine.

I'm not lynching Caesar today.

VOTE: Nero

scum arent open about scum agenda nancy

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Also trusting reed reads on sonda is pretty stupid alisae no offense, im a better shot at those 2

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VOTE: notice

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VOTE: maxous nvm

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about 4-5 slots already threw shade w/o any justifications at all but everytime i make an ambigous posts, im getting asked for my justifications behind it, every time

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leons maxous gin is what im thinking about rn, notice's last post was alright

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maxous has been costing the whole day, leon is just being obnoxious and is outing textbook scumlines

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No I don't have him locked town for that, I have him locked town for 9048 because that is a really good post.
For Nero right now they're bleeding town to me.

That's a decent post, but lock town?

Agree with the town nature of the post but discredit the conclusion. To be fair its a pretty bad reason to locktown brian for that post but how leon is doing it looks like mefias

Some scum want to stay off mislynch wagons for towncred. But I won't blame you for TRing someone who matches your thoughts.

What do you think of CK, Ali?

I think I'd rather lynch him than dave

.

This whole post is textbook scum, talks about third party hypothetic scum behaviors, "wont blame you for tring someone who matches your thoughts" is an obnoxious buddy line, Hes trying to derail the wagon on dave onto me even tho he outed 0 reads on eithers slots AFAIK, hes asking for alisae to out their reads on my slots, while not outing theirs, as to fuel a possible wagon. This is imo mefia vs town interactions same with the buddy line

I had a couple issues with Kyouko,

nothing about Cloudie has swayed me one way or another thus far.

I don't know, there's nobody that is screaming scum this game. Even Skies has points going for him now.

This is an overly general line used to hide behind isntead of being transparent about his reads, last sentence is inverted paranoia used by mefias when the game is talling and they want to blend in every slots

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Inb4 omgus, i omgus mefia when im being pushed by mefia and it works wonder

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VOTE: leon maxous will probably call me scum for vote jumping i bet, waiting for the chainsaw

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i havent read dave but 6-7 slots agreeing with eachothers on a slots that isnt very actives, all in the span of 4-5 pages is exactly how mislynches on lynchbait lurkers happen

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Max is a terrible slot with worse reads, his behaviors since i replaced in are essenitally coasting, fosing town and being inconsitent in their thoughts process aka asking for justifications when they arent willing to give an opportunity for their reads to be town

Leons same, just iso the guy for the last 20-30 posts and its pretty ugly

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Also the way cesar wagons is getting off is pretty indicative yet almost no one talks about that, this town is getting handled by the balls

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I don't agree with any of nancy's scumreads

I don't have the time or energy to double-check Vecna's case, I'l just put my trust in him. Of interest to me is that davesaz claims to have scumreads in this game but hasn't had a vote out all day. He also had LUV as an (unexplained) scumread alongside ABR in his D2 reads list but the scumread seems to have disappeared since.

VOTE: davesaz

lol i was doing a VCA saying that since leon didnt switch off pine ass it probably means theres at worst 1 mefia in them, thats not valid

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i havent read dave but 6-7 slots agreeing with eachothers on a slots that isnt very actives, all in the span of 4-5 pages is exactly how mislynches on lynchbait lurkers happen

Read my comparisons of his play, dont just talk about lynchbait and blablabla.

Just because someone is lurking, doesnt mean he's auto town lynchbaiting.

Im talking about game behavior, not individuals behaviors. Its easy for mefia to keep a mislynch option entertained just in case they have to push that very agenda the moment they need it. Keeping the idea of a dave lynch open makes towns much more easily coerced into giving in and changing their votes. Nancy's change of heart on ceasar is as of yet, unexplained and i read her posts

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Vecna they wont give the tell ever, its common place to keep really successful tell for yourself because when shared, the tell become unusable

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I don't agree with any of nancy's scumreads

I

don't have the time or energy to double-check Vecna's case,

I'l just put my trust in him. Of interest to me is that davesaz claims to have scumreads in this game but hasn't had a vote out all day. He also had LUV as an (unexplained) scumread alongside ABR in his D2 reads list but the scumread seems to have disappeared since.

VOTE: davesaz

The more i read leons the more obvious it gets that hes mefia. Scumexcuses, ill put my trust in him is also a buddy line wich leads to vecna being town and vecna also stated earlier that hes a sucker for being buddied and that leon is a blindspot, as i read it he has meta with leon where he couldnt read him correctly. Hes talking about unexplained reads when hes not explaining his

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Vecna they wont give the tell ever, its common place to keep really successful tell for yourself because when shared, the tell become unusable

This is complete bullshit if true. Theyre basing their complete play and their entire read-set over it so we have the right to know to analyze whether theyre full of crap or not.

To be fair, it works. 3 Players who know eachothers very well can scumtell by scumreading someone for reason he openly knows arent valid, aka here would be nancy's about the alisae towntell

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its selfish but it works

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Yeah a lot of Nancy's flip-flopping around is unexplained, but I doubt its coming from scum. At any rate, im not happy about it.

when i said unexplained i never implied she could be mefia, i think shes one of the town pillars that the town is resting on, her giving less attention to ceasar resulting in him losing votes is an exemple

[CloudKicker]

leon as mefia would lead to alisae/vecna and myself as town, dave as possble partner

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lol those 2 things doesnt work, if i really wanted to comes off as confibiasing town i wouldnt have made the omgus comment, also its pretty stupid to say that im looking like confbiasing town but im mefia for it

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ima take it as a compliment/attempt to sway

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like the world youre painting is that im mefia being extremely cunning and planning all my posts as to look confbiaising town (if i undestand you correctly) but i would make the omgus comment openly showing that im very aware of my posturizing and so on

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i dont think the read on the omgus thing is bad i always got fosed for this kind of comments because its cheeky, the read on me 'acting like town but being mefia for it" looks forced, also if you havent found anything openly scummy about my play, maybe you should realize that the odds of you being correct on kyouko play versus myself are the same yet the alignements distributions arent even -> meaning that if you scumread my pred but doesnt scumread me, you should at least try to reconsider and/or try to sort me better, i havent see you try to engage with me other than throwing lowkey shade my lil leon, this isnt coherent with the town scenario where you dont have an agenda and actually scumread my pred

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also regarding people scumreading vecna and nancy, aka sondam and nero i am farily certain both are town for numerous reason, nancy being one of the most obvious and transparent read on the table, vecna towntold as well and is a terrible push for today, i really want leon or at least get the slot sum pressure

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Max is a terrible slot with

worse reads

, his behaviors since i replaced in are essenitally coasting, fosing town and being inconsitent in their thoughts process aka asking for justifications when they arent willing to give an opportunity for their reads to be town

my reads so far were

- beeboy town
- froggy town
- ABR null/unsure
- PV town

which of these reads are shit.
if you're talking about unflipped reads be very specific as to why it's a shit read.

ck mefia is a bad read, i didnt read anything prior my replace-in so everything you said since then was sub average

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This post especially looks fake, you already quoted the post in 9196 and now you're quoting it again to list off a bunch of confbias reasons for why you're becoming more convinced about your scumread. It's like you were staring at my last 10 posts to list reasons to call me scum as opposed to trying to read me

thats kinda true, i had you as a lean scum for a while and i eventually got disatisfied with the current wagons so i revisted your slot, i didnt like you first for tone so i isod you and nitpicked at stuff that pinged me

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Like i said, i didnt read prior to my replace-in, saying that im scummy for not being conherent with the content you put before my replace-in is just noise

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also leon you fit exactly in the archetype of the coasting mefia going with the grain when its a perfect scumgame so far, not having a lot of attention rn for no real reasons yknow

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And what did you have me as lean scum for before?

tone + a comment about something about someone i remember alisae said he didnt like and i agreed, i dont remember the content of that post but i remember i didnt like it

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I feel like Leon is treating Brian like he was treating me in Spyro.
We were both scum together and the whole game he was distancing himself from me but he was also keeping other oppertunities open.
Like I feel like Leon told Brian in their scum PT after Brian hammered ABR "Hey, you're going to get some heat on you and I'm probably going to have to bus you."

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funny, i remembered it as if you said something i didnt like, not something alisae commented on, regardless that just made me revisit your slot and i still really hate your posting

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so far i dont like yuris and leons tone

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im okay voting in maxous gin leon, not nancy nero

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im okay voting in maxous gin leon, not nancy nero

Why arent you voting mefia

~Gerry

im voting mefia, if you have something on leon im open to it

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VOTE: Maxous
Dear town: Can we please not no lynch today and lynch Maxous. Thanks.
Love, Ali

cool vote + 1 brownie townie cookie but i kinda want the leon more, he just naked unvoted for posturizing

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Deadline is quite soon bois 3.5 days, i suggest we solidify the best lunches option and then we try to lynch in those 2-3 options, with 9 people needed we cant really afford people not compromising

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hm okay we can settle this when we see which of them get traction

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davesaz (5): Nero Cain, Brian Skies, Vecna, Creature, Alisae id call 1 mefia at the very very least there, id say in creat/brian

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i think youre wrong

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i dont really need it

lel oupsy

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all of Cloud, Max and Yuri need to get off their vanity wagons.

i will but who do you want besides nancy/math?

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leon should be a thing, mefia dont want mefias to be a thing FTR its how the game works

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Exactly, not even gonna argue it. That is my entire reason.

I want to win this game, having you around makes sure we will lose.

you lynch mefias not people you judge are bad for town/lylo

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@vec you said you had a blindspot for leon, mind rereadin the guy ?

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Lol bad habit and not supposed to be cute

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hi, dont blitzing people in the day

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i know the deadline was close but im probably one of the best read on sondam and i wasnt there

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yea? i still want leon

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No one has died during Night 3.

thats pretty good we might get a possible ml back

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i thought yea was a replace in lolz

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hm i had an idea about the rsolution but it doesnt really works

[CloudKicker]

Now vote Yea!
It's good for your health.

i do what i want

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at first i thought it would be good because of wonders that does something diff depening of the alignement like the forbidden thingy. Lynching scum with that resolution could tell exactly which wonders scum does not that which i think is pretty decent considering i dont see the downside

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Exemple :

CK tried to build
X : not built
Y : built

We know that town has X and mefias doesnt. Mefia would already know that town has X so theres no downside or am i not seeing it ?

The downside is when town flips and the same scenario happens no? Like mefia would know which wonders they tried to build and failed, if mefia doesnt have that wonder then town has it. Its like a resolution that is like "win more" than a resolution that helps town with their mislynches

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Maxous if you really want to have any credibility whatsoever with me you need to provide content so i can sort you correclty, saying im still scum doesnt cut it

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Your scum list is pretty terrible, dave towntold recently and yuri is one of the most likely town slot for the game behaviors of d1. i agree with the nancy/vecna reads mostly everything else should moves

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my town-list is not open for debate unless there's a

really

good specific reason.

i even trimmed people i kinda town-read but am not very confident on like creature and Leon.

p-edit: PV is town.
can we please stop debating this?

I made a post and i addressed you reads, dont ignore me

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PV should be town because he got nightkilled, occam razor

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In a hundred games where a treestump would get nkd, im pretty sure there a huge majority of those games where that treestump is town i dont even understand ppl debating it and its not like PV is a mefia god

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you need to provide content so i can sort you correclty, saying im still scum doesnt cut it

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Aka on my slot, your are a shitty player im not asking for your opinion on my reads, im asking you to show your thought process

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i think nero towntold more so than sondam but i still didnt like the wagon

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i didnt even time to say anything, this is exactly what happened with grey in backstabber mefia

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Because I have made a PV argument people ignored and a Nero one showing it is his scum meta.

i actually have a meta read that contradicts this one and regardless of meta, nero is in the high end of people i dont want to lynch because they are constantly putting good content and i dont see anything wrong

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im not really sure why you thought that would work?
:/

Because I have made a PV argument people ignored and a Nero one showing it is his scum meta.

link me up.
especially for the PV argument.
pls and ty.

:/ not forced at all, who did you replace?

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Sondam was a better lynch than Nero, and PV's alignment is irrelevant since he's dead.

first relevant leon post

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:/ not forced at all, who did you replace?

:/

cloud gets my second ISOdive slot.

:/ your pred was a scumfuck too when he replaced-in

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Because I have made a PV argument people ignored and a Nero one showing it is his scum meta.

i actually have a meta read that contradicts this one and regardless of meta, nero is in the high end of people i dont want to lynch because they are constantly putting good content and i dont see anything wrong

Please show me the meta that contradicts.
Nero is putting out horrible content especially since I know he is wrong as I am Town. The only question is derp town or scum. I think derp town was passed awhile ago.

it would be too complicated but essentially, i was his traitor and i analyzed his whole game play and its just not it that game, it still could be one of his bad scumgame that i played with him and thats why the individual townread i have on him this game is relevant, its not just meta

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:/ your pred was a scumfuck too when he replaced-in

oh god man i wish the slot i'd replaced hadnt done that!
:/
shit!

its funny because your pred did exactly what you are doing rn

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Does a roleblock count as a guilty?

if you have to ask you know its not the case and you shouldnt have said it imo just fake guilty your target and go from there

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It can.

no

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Even if it blocked the kill, you dont count it as a guilty inb4 i get fosed for saying this. When you block someone you dont out that infos you milk your check for reactions and reads @ creature

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Theres 2 protective wonders ftr

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its funny because your pred did exactly what you are doing rn

:/

Even if it blocked the kill, you dont count it as a guilty inb4 i get fosed for saying this.

fos.

keep doing it it will just end up you getting roped

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Okay, I won't state who I roleblocked for a while, for reactions.

+1

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i dont think theres been a game where i havent been obvtown.

im not too worried bud.
(:
[ :/ ]

implying you obvtown as scum

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I think its fair to not have faked a guilty because of how the roles are public, i wouldnt want to fish a wonder just for reactions @creat

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i feel like leon switch alignement in the night

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she just said she was wifoming some of her reads alibae

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thats almost seems like youre frustrated town can lie

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Now let's vote Yea so we can actually play mafia.

VOTE: yea i forgot

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@leon

, i dont really know the context of the vote, i have no completed games with gin and dont know what his thought process was in this game.
it would be a pretty pointless exercise for me to try and justify his actions because the only thing that i can really bring to the table is knowing that they came from town.

he didnt ask you to justify, he wanted your impressions on what your pred said etc because by definition, you know its coming from town

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why is that useful though?
my opinion is inherently skewed in a way thats literally just going to be me saying "yup thats town because reason because i know its true".
theres no objectivity there.
theres also that i feel like its a waste of time to iso my own slot, figure out what the mindframe was, just to justify actions that i will never be able to fully represent properly because i dont know what he was thinking.

you would rather me do that than read other people and give thoughts there

?

Hes asking you because it is skewed, again hes not asking to justifiy

why assume theyre mutually exclusive

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is it worth having everyone check in before we hammer this?

p-edit: i have no idea what youre trying to say.

you would rather me do that than read other people and give thoughts there?

You can do both

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Also alisae, did you change your playstyle? i think you did

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Cloudie I don't really get what you're getting at?

You were a newbie a few months ago ? its because youre getting increasingly hard to read

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You can do both

im not going to.
deal with it.

you can either choose for me to wiffle around in my own slot's iso to pointlessly justify his behavior or i can play the game, actually give a shit and drive gamestate.

but actually you dont get to choose im doing the latter.

lol kk

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Cloudie I don't really get what you're getting at?

You were a newbie a few months ago ? its because youre getting increasingly hard to read

So I'm IMPROVING!
That's nice.
You can read me as town just FYI.

Youre harder to read but not exactly in the better way, i just think you got more opaque than just more cunning idk if its clear

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VOTE: leon

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Oh look Aslan is bussing.

if you think leon/aslan/luv are scum, leon is probably the harder to lynch rn

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Dont be jealous