Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Alisae]

Dave because he's a scumread of mine.
Also
VOTE: Vecna
-Nebby

Wait you hopped from ABR to me and then quickly hopped off but went to Vecna instead of back to ABR. Why? Like I know you're whimsical with your vote but why not back to ABR, why to Vecna?

I see the whole ABR v Vecna thing as scum theatre.
-Nebby

[Alisae]

Thanks Nahdia

[Alisae]

Your majesty, the senate was not trying to deceive you.

[Alisae]

While the senate does have trouble explaining why they are willing to work with Your Majesty, the senate does not have the burden of proof to prove that Your Majesty should trust them. It is the responsibility of the senate to expel traitors and barbarians from the state.

[Alisae]

I don't wanna right now -_-

[Alisae]

LUV I have a theory that Dave and Creature are on a scumteam together. Creature overall has been scummy and I think they're scum so you should vote them considering they said some really wierd things I just don't see town saying.

[Alisae]

This is partly why I think Dave is distancing himself from Creature

Don't give me "activity"

Creature is actively trying to change that meta of his.

Activity was my previous townread on you, though activity isn't AI anymore for you.

This is misdirection. Fro99er's comment is about

Creature's meta

. Creature's response is about

his Fro99er read

.

A quick scan of Creature's ISO shows lots of

opinions

but next to no

reasons

.
VOTE: Creature
This is scum. I can't tell if he's scum with Yuri trying to derail, or just scum who got caught in a horrible opinion shift.

My vote may still be for hire to complete the Yuri wagon, after I analyze that slot to find out if it's really scum or not.

I continue to think Creature could be scum trying to act town, but it might just be a playstyle thing. I'm willing to listen to townreads for now.
UNVOTE:

Dave has an okay push on Creature, but when he unvotes, he postures around the Creature slot and overall just jumps off of it for a really bad reason.

I also think about him attacking me for not putting ABR at L-1, the questions he was asking me there just sorta seem like they were dead ends and really vague and not really going anywhere.
This is the dave part to Creature and Dave being on the same team.

[Alisae]

I feel like shamelessly OMGUSing Vecna.
-Nebby

Why don't you?

Btw your avy is really cute, what animoo is that?

Because I think Creature and/or Dave are more likely to flip scum and the anime is Space Patrol Luluco

[Alisae]

^ I also really want to know what's up with this. You flop off of me after making your massive case that I had to diarrhea all over, like I'm now among your top townreads? Why?

Because the way you responded to my case and the frustration just sorta seems towny.
Also your stance around ABR was also towny and made sense and made me question why I didn't listen to Elbrin. You're probably town for defending that as well.

As for the Dave/Creature thing, what do you think of 7110?

[Alisae]

Hold on let me do newer reads
{nancy, BaeReed, Elbrin, Brian, Math}
{Kyouko}
{LUV, Yuri, Caesar, Sondam, Maxous, Nero}
{Vecna}
{Dave, Creature}

[Alisae]

Oh yeah I forgot Leon.
Knew I was forgetting somenoe. Yeah he's town with Math and those nerds.

[Alisae]

Speaking of which did you know that LUV and Vecna are scum together? Let's do it up

Show your work!

[Alisae]

The only reason why I stopped TRing LUV is because of what they said about better wonders later on and conspriacy theories that are probably not true. I'm most likely getting paranoid about them currently so they're probably town.

[Alisae]

Kyouko I thought your vote on ABR was a CC tbh.

[Alisae]

eww Creature is still alive.

[Alisae]

Hold on let me do newer reads
{nancy, BaeReed, Elbrin, Brian, Math}
{Kyouko}
{LUV, Yuri, Caesar, Sondam, Maxous, Nero}
{Vecna}
{Dave, Creature}

Talk to me about Brian, ssbm, Notice?

I haven't sorted Brian and ssbm really looks like scum to me, but I might just have a bad read on them personality-wise. You have a leg up on me here. I'm also sorting Notice as scum but it's somewhat gut-based. Both you and Math are sorting Notice as Town and you both know the player far better than me, which makes me want to doubt myself. I haven't seen them obvtown so far.

Brain's read is mostly because of Drixx's "I want pryamids" thing.
Kyouko tbh just feel's like a scum motivated mislynch especially considering he was the counterwagon to ABR.
BaeReed's D1 push on Vecna screamed town because tbh I feel like BaeReed would make more effort into reading the table then to make that push when he did.

[Alisae]

nancy who are you townreading on that wagon?

[Alisae]

nancy why are you TRing Elbrin and Leon?
Why is Nero and Vecna where they are? Also what makes you think Vecna v ABR was a TvT?
Why is Yuri in the middle?

[Alisae]

The following post will state how much fucks I give about Nero.

[Alisae]

Okay maybe a little since he's a nice guy

[Alisae]

Um, Math did want to get vigged tho...

[Alisae]

I'd rather keep ABR than Math. lol

Then pick up vig and shoot me.

[Alisae]

Actually you're right lmao.

[Alisae]

Also why are you townreading me again?

[Alisae]

Aslan is nancy's nickname for me.

[Alisae]

ffs Nero then vote em with me if you think that's a slip.

[Alisae]

It's because scum want to push their mislynch of the day.

[Alisae]

oh noes.
Nero scumreads me like he did yesterday.
What will I ever do!

[Alisae]

I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I don't really care about these scumreads on me.

[Alisae]

And who might those be?

[Alisae]

BaeReed no.
Dave I wanted dead.
LUV I think he's town, as tbh I only see him as scum with BaeReed.
Sondam maybe. TBH I never really sat down and sorted that slot I just had trouble finding myself in a position to actually be able to do that.

[Alisae]

The SSBM read is all gut tbh.
And it's clear by now I'm all over the place with my read on you.

[Alisae]

Also, answer my question about Creature?

?

[Alisae]

Spoiler: Thingy thing things that make me think Creature is scum

I don't really know what Arts, Science and None are and I don't know why None is better than Arts and Science.

Hmm, scum must pick daychat?

What's going to happen if we pick:
- Science?
- Arts?
- None?

I'm sorta confused with the info mod gave.

Okay, I kinda get what Science is.

Must mean we're gonna know earlier what we can build and thus scum could coordinate their picks.

What about Arts? Why one extra build benefits scum?

Btw, yeah, we must coordinate our picks well. Are we informed who picked what?

If I obvtown, I'll very likely die.

Arts and Science felt like town powerups, therefore None seemed like a waste.

Arts and Science felt like town powerups, therefore None seemed like a waste.

I don't know how you could've gotten that if you didn't know what they were.

Sounded like:

Arts and Science = Draft
None = No draft therefore no roles

[Alisae]

It's mostly because I've been all over the place with Sondam.
VOTE: davesaz

[Alisae]

Oh great we're doing Creature now!
Yay!
VOTE: Creature
Yuri I still want a respone to why you suddenly townread me yesterday.

[Alisae]

Me being lynched still involves all scum voting me

along some stubborn town. So after I am lynched, lynch/kill/sort anyone on my wagon and you'll all automatically win.

What makes you think the bolded

[Alisae]

What makes you think you're so important?

[Alisae]

PV why is that bad news for town?

[Alisae]

Because we're tunneled, stubborn town that couldn't figure out that ABR built Zeus because of his ego.

[Alisae]

It's mostly tone and personality tbh.

[Alisae]

Gut tells me it's a mislynch.

[Alisae]

I mean, I won't really shed any tears if SSBM is gone, but I still think it's a mislynch and a red flip on Creature or Dave will make me really happy

[Alisae]

VOTE: Dave
Here we go again.

[Alisae]

I I'm home did the party end yet?

[Alisae]

hi*
Fuck I can't spell a normal word that's used in an everyday sinareo.

[Alisae]

Here we go again.
VOTE: Creature
nancy weren't you SRing Kyouko?

[Alisae]

LUV never bullies -_-
He's too nice.

[Alisae]

Kill the scum!
Drink it's blood!
Kill the scum!
Drink it's blood!

[Alisae]

I honestly think Creature right now is a dead man walking.

[Alisae]

^Town paranoia^

[Alisae]

VOTE: Sondam

This is starting to feel more and more right

wasn't your vote parked on me for the whole day?

[Alisae]

Maria you're fun to play with.
We should play more games together.

[Alisae]

I think I made it perfectly okay with either Dave or Creature getting roped.

[Alisae]

Leon.
Brian is not happening right now.
Neither is Kyouko.
Sorry #RealNebby. ;~;

Why aren't you willing to do Creature?

[Alisae]

Sondam this isn't scum!LUV.
Sorry.

[Alisae]

Sondam this isn't scum!LUV.
Sorry.

Do me a huge favor and towntell please

This line will consist of a very long line and long sentence which will then result in a towntell.

[Alisae]

Is anyone townreading NoticeMeSenpai? Don't come with associatives.

I am

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:
Trusting BaeReed here.
Tho right now BaeReed Creature REALLY just looks like a dead man walking.

[Alisae]

I didn't know nancy had an ego :O

[Alisae]

Hey guys, did you hear the news? Did you hear the news?
Apparently you can ignore just about all the conflict that is happening on D1 by voteparking Kyouko.
VOTE: Maxous

[Alisae]

Also I like how a small early game wagon on Maxous was cool but then that shit was never brought up again.

[Alisae]

I don't care what people think of me so I don't tend to tailor my posts towards that.

[Alisae]

Wait now Yuri is scum lol @nancy get your head straight

[Alisae]

OH NOW SUDDENLY LUV IS INTERESTED IN VCA
WHEN ALL HE DOES IS CALL VCA SHIT
/ME FLIPS A TABLE

[Alisae]

Nero you are literally as useless as LUV right now.

[Alisae]

Nero if you want to talk about reads with me and nancy I'm down.
LUV you can join too.

[Alisae]

nancy talk to me about Elbrin.

[Alisae]

nancy, I'm going to give you 2 more recent games to go meta Elbrin with, because last time I checked Elbrin hasn't played since bloodborne and honestly the way I see it, more recent meta is better, right?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69654
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=69290 (Oh god it's my first game on site how embarassing)

[Alisae]

LUV talk to me about the scum motivation behind Drixx saying he was going to go for pryamids super early on.

[Alisae]

Disagree.
Considering that's the resolution phase and there wasn't too much scumhunting going on, I don't see why Scum would announce that there, or rather announce that at all. Scum!Drixx could have easily just decided to keep his mouth shut there.
If it was someone like Pine who took Pryamids, fine, I could understand your concern there because it's fucking Pine, but personally I don't know Drixx's scumgame well enough to know if he could just WIFOM as an impotent treestump.

If you really believe in scum!Drixx, convince me why Drixx's play is scum (Not Brian's play).

[Alisae]

Brian where you at with reads?

nancy what do you think of 5885 followed by 6679?
Also what do you think of 3582

[Alisae]

Fo real though, why can't we lynch Kyouko?

Why should we?

@Ali: YOLO vote for Bee and I didn't like his replace out.

What don't you like about his beeboy vote and his replace out?

[Alisae]

Alisae - Town
Nero Cain - Town

Yuri - Town
MathBlade - idk
Leonshade - idk
Elbirn - town
Creature - scum
Caesar Wills It - scum
Lil Uzi Vert - scum
Vecna - town
ssbm_Kyouko - maybe scum
davesaz - idk
Maxous - idk

PeregrineV - town, probably
Sondam - town

NoticeMeSenpai - would lynch
nancy - manipulative

Explain the reads that are bolded in a bit more detail for me.

[Alisae]

I didn't like his replacement because he's old enough to understand mafia is a commitment.

LUV...
Oh LUV...
This is aboslute dogshit.
Honestly I think if Drixx was scum, he would have just lurked some more and gotten away with it instead of replacing out like he did.

Anything else you think was scummy?

[Alisae]

Like if Drixx was scum I feel like Brian would not be here tbh.

[Alisae]

@Brian don't give me the "hiding behind flavorposting" excuse. If anything that's just an excuse not to read his posts, read them and tell me how he's trying to push a scum agenda.
Honestly your read on Kyouko is basicly textbook Kyouko, tho tbh I would like a bit more from him like I saw from NY 199 because that was blatant gamesolving.
Senpai derailing the wagons that you want is moreso a selfish read that's relying on the logic that they are 100% scum which I highly doubt they'll flip. They're most likely to flip town.

[Alisae]

Classic fake frustration and unnecessary lashing out.

I read the frustration as genuine so I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

[Alisae]

I've read it and I thought he was towny. Not to mention I feel like D2 he was someone that was very easy to run up and I feel like scum were okay with that.
Also I don't think the pressure on him (kyouko) is going to do much to be frank.

[Alisae]

I'm pretty sure the definition of manipulative is fairly straightforward.

LUV what's the scum motivation behind providing this stance for nancy?
Becuase I don't see why scum would out this stance on nancy right now.

[Alisae]

No reason to.
As scum it would just be better to read the table and give nancy a townread or even put her as idk.
As scum he gains nothing from it.

[Alisae]

It's more likely to come from town then scum because scum just have no reason to out that read on her.
Like, they just don't.
It's towny because that's what he genuinely believes.

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

I don't think that sounds like a happy Mathblade ;~;

[Alisae]

{Creature, nancy, BaeReed, Brian, Kyouko, Nero, LUV, Leon, Sondam, Ceasar, PV, Math}
{Yuri, Elbrin, Vecna, Dave}
{Maxous}

[Alisae]

nancy if Leon flips scum that would be enough for me to re-evaluate Drixx slot tbh.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70313
The way Leon is treating Brian right now really comes off as the way he's treating me in this game.

[Alisae]

nancy can I be a wizard too?

[Alisae]

I mean like, I went to wizard school once:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70078
People like Math didn't really liked me.
So they killed me off!
Isn't that rude ;~;
/me pouts

[Alisae]

Is it to get Pine to post more?
If so it's lazy tbh.

[Alisae]

Iz okay Kyouko.
I understand.

[Alisae]

I mean like, I went to wizard school once:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70078
People like Math didn't really liked me.
So they killed me off!
Isn't that rude ;~;
/me pouts

I didn't kill you
You were lynched for buddying me and role being fishy.
Good win though.

Apparently being roped isn't being killed.
and also I am BUDDYING you! Look at this post which screams the word BUDDY!
Have I sucessfully BUDDIED you yet?

[Alisae]

Math BaeReed is town and so is nancy.
Also LUV is town because of Hogwarts.

Talk to me about Yuri and Leon and Maxous.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Yuri
Hi.
You're getting wagoned.
It would be really cool if you could be relevant now.
So like, you should give me your reads, and explain them. Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay?
Yay, hopefully you'll do that

[Alisae]

I do.
I replaced out but instead of a replacement showing up I just got lynched.

[Alisae]

I ALSO READ GREY CORRECTLY BEFORE WE BOTH REPLACED OUT
HINT
HINT

[Alisae]

LUV's D1 play here reminded me of his D2 play in Hogwarts.
pedit: During D2? Nah everyone TRed him but then apparently I heard the mod confirmed Math as scum which sucks.

[Alisae]

I fake that cheap cred stuff all the time as scum it's hilarious.

[Alisae]

Yuri needs sorting and I would give it to Ceasar

[Alisae]

because Ceasar Wills It

Because it's a 2 for 1 deal.

[Alisae]

lol Cloudie.

[Alisae]

Let's remember that Cloudie replaced into a slot that is probably town.

[Alisae]

Nero...
Don't use the R word.
That's not nice ;~;

[Alisae]

The Nero post you quoted.

[Alisae]

I meant it was in the post that ner-
Oh nvm

[Alisae]

Lol @LUV and Brian interaction that was cute.
Hit me up when people actually want to gamesolve.

[Alisae]

Adorable.

[Alisae]

Cool!
I want Yuri to talk to me and Caesar isn't really a wagon I'm down for right now because I feel like it was started 100% because someone was bored.
Why is Caesar scum?

[Alisae]

Garrybote he replaced Kyouko
pedit: It's the site chatbox!

[Alisae]

I don't use it at all!

[Alisae]

I AM NOT THE CAUSE TO THESE 200 PAGES!
I'D LIKE TO BLAME THE TITUS HYDRA AND MATH, LUV, AND VECNA

[Alisae]

Cloud adds 100 more pages to the game.

[Alisae]

nancy I'm willing to work with Yuri but I actually want Yuri to talk about the game and I honestly liked Math's words about Yuri.

[Alisae]

Yuri I am concerned about where all the D1 scumreads went.
Like not a single person put a vote on Yuri or asked about the switch to Beeboy after Beeboy flipped Town. Like people pressured for being counter wagon but no one seemed to re-evaluate the Yuri slot.
Same with Vecna.
All those scumreads disappeared.

[Alisae]

GUYZ BEEBOY HAD 67 VOTES!

[Alisae]

VOTE: Yuri
Hi.
You're getting wagoned.
It would be really cool if you could be relevant now.
So like, you should give me your reads, and explain them. Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay?
Yay, hopefully you'll do that

[Alisae]

Yeah Yuri you're getting wagoned by me, myself, and I.

Why are you TRing Vecna and Max? Why is Kyouko scum?
And I'm not even going with the popular opinion right now.

[Alisae]

Yuri what are your thoughts when it comes to Leon trying to get Brian lynched?

[Alisae]

Cool.

[Alisae]

I feel like Leon is treating Brian like he was treating me in Spyro.
We were both scum together and the whole game he was distancing himself from me but he was also keeping other oppertunities open.
Like I feel like Leon told Brian in their scum PT after Brian hammered ABR "Hey, you're going to get some heat on you and I'm probably going to have to bus you."

[Alisae]

Hmm...
UNVOTE:
The only thing that's bothering me is Drixx's pryamids claim.

[Alisae]

Why would Drixx saying that he wanted to go after pyramids but didn't or didn't win it affect your Skies read?

Satisfaction cuz that's the only thing that's holding me back from voting that slot because it really seemed like an obvtown move to make.
Also Brian confirmed Drixx didn't get it btw.

Math what do you think of Brian hammering ABR?

[Alisae]

Alisae, did you see that

it was in its natural habitat

LOL

[Alisae]

Unless Ali was purposefully playing worse in Spyro (though after a while he actually was and it was hilarious)

The IC Lane is really scum just hiding behind their mod confirmed inno.

[Alisae]

Alisae, did you see that

it was in its natural habitat

LOL

Nero/Vecna/Yuri -- Alisae thoughts? Senpai thoughts? Oh and here is a sugary snack for the both of you because you are nice.

Math I don't like your pre-flip associations here, but right now I'm at no, maybe, maybe.

[Alisae]

Alisae Why do you townread Nero?

Yes because of his D2 play.

[Alisae]

Alisae be more specific please.

His tunnel on me is towny and his "I don't trust anyone on the mislynches" is towny.

[Alisae]

8174
Math I think the paranoia is moreso towny then scummy.

[Alisae]

Anyone who thinks Math is scum why would they take stonehenge D1?

[Alisae]

Nero is that really worth it though especially considering that LUV hinted at things that are better coming up in the future.
Like, I feel like the better play I would expect from scum!Titus would be to wait for something better and to steal that before any townies got a chance to build it.

[Alisae]

Nero I don't even remember your D1 tunnel on me tbh.

[Alisae]

Gardens, Mausoleum, or the daytalk if Math were to be scum.

[Alisae]

PV I've been solohydraing since the game actually started and I just recently split it.
As soon as D2 started they never talked to me again.
Why should I have announced it if I did get it?

[Alisae]

PV why would it look like they're avoiding the lynch when they were globally TRed?

[Alisae]

8296
On paper it seemed to be better for town then scum. I understand your point on that if someone has a wonder then they shouldn't vote natural, but honestly I feel like scum and/or town wouldn't know who has built what or who hasn't built what at that time.

[Alisae]

Aww PV doesn't like me ;~;

[Alisae]

8334
Okay going by what you're saying here why would scum want to go back?
8335
You wanted nerds on the ABR wagon.
I got scared.
Tho I do find your math push interesting for reasons I don't feel comfortable stating exactly right away and I do find you to be town.

[Alisae]

PV what do you think of the people saying you're scum for this push?

[Alisae]

Well Your Majesty, nothing really surprising or shocking happened besides PV pushing Math.

[Alisae]

Your majesty, what do you think about senators Leon and Maxous?

[Alisae]

Your Majesty.
The senate requests that you give the records 304 - 335 your finest attention.

[Alisae]

Your majesty, what do you think about senators Leon and Maxous?

This is so ridiculous.
He continuously refuses to push me unless somebody else does the heavy lifting for him.

VOTE: Alisae

I've seriously had enough of this

I will gladly 1v1 you today just to get you to be productive

[Alisae]

A. This complaint is complete bullshit because you're not even trying to push the wagons you want.
B. I'm not being lynched regardless of what you flip.
VOTE: Maxous
This is happening.

[Alisae]

Oh hey!
NY199 is sorta what I'm basing my read on Nero as well!

[Alisae]

nancy...
BaeReed isn't scum here.
Can you trust me on this?

[Alisae]

That but among other things which I am not sharing Cloudie.
pedit: Cloudie it's all BaeReed. It's a teaching hydra. BaeReed explained this multiple times. Also really shitty vote Cloudie.
pedit2: Can I post?

[Alisae]

Elbrin I'll miss you <3

[Alisae]

HAI GIN

[Alisae]

Gin it would be really really cool if you could obvtown for me.
Thanks

[Alisae]

Caesar has been giving stances.

[Alisae]

Gin it would be really really cool if you could obvtown for me.
Thanks

boo

FTFY

[Alisae]

If your name is Alisae, mastina, Pine or Nero(or the female version Nancy), melt my heart and give me a 20 page MLA report on what's happened this game while I do my read >_>

honestly Gin, there's so much that happened I don't even know how I could summarize it all and cover just about everything that happened.
Also Mastina isn't posting in the hydra it's all JaeReed. It's a learning hydra.

[Alisae]

Gin you're adorable.
Also you're voting LUV btw.

[Alisae]

What about the mechanics in the game? I joined because of the playerlist, I actually know jack shit about what's going on

At the start of the day there will be a 7 rl day long resolution phase where we get to decide if we want to add more mechanics to the game. Like on D1 we had to chose between Science, Art, or None. On D2 we had to chose between Natural and Cultural Heritage sites. So that's cool an all.
After the resolution phase there we get to actually play mafia.
Also at the beginning of the resolution phase a list of wonders will be avalable, and you have to ask to build them via PM. Those who don't built get priority the next day, and those who do but fail don't. You get a max of 1 wonder.

Am I doing this right in explaining things to you?

[Alisae]

Pretty much! Tho Nahdia usually gives a list of the wonder thingys that are built and I dunno if a chocolate factory is there. This is like, the medieval era and I don't think factories were around then.
Tho why would you want to build a chocolate factory of all things?

[Alisae]

Spoiler: The wonders. Hint: They're wonderful

From the first stirrings of life beneath water... to man taking his first upright steps... to the great beasts of the Stone Age, you have come far. Now begins your greatest quest: from this early cradle of civilization on towards the stars.

The following Wonders are available for construction during the Ancient Era. Please submit build requests privately via PM.

The Hanging Gardens	Each night, you may target a player to protect from a single killing action.
The Pyramids	If you die, no information will be released along with your flip. You will become a treestump and may continue posting in the main thread. You will be dead for all other purposes.
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus	Each night, you may select a player to form a neighborhood with. This neighborhood will last only the following day & night phase.
Stonehenge	Each night, you may target a player. If you are killed during the night, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.
Statue of Zeus	Each night, target a player. The first time a killing action targets you, that action will instead be redirected to your target.
The Great Lighthouse	(Available only to non-town players) Factional topics you are a part of gain day chat as long as you are alive.

It is currently the Resolution Phase. Votes to lynch may not be cast until resolutions have been dealt with. The following Resolution is on the table:

Funding

• Sciences
  : Wonders will be viewable one era prior to when they become buildable.
  
• Arts
  : Each era, an extra wonder will be made available with vote or lynch related abilities.
  
• None
  : No event.

From humble beginnings, you have shown remarkable growth. Leave your bronze for iron and rule with horse and sword. The sky above begins to reveal its secrets, a collection of heaven that uplifts our hearts and guides us to foreign shores.

The following Wonders are available for construction during the Classical Era. Please submit build requests privately via PM.

The Oracle	Each night, you may ask the moderator a yes/no question about the setup as it existed before the game began.
Petra	Each night, you may target a player to learn who they visit, if anyone.
The Colossus	Upon construction, you may immediately target a single player to form a permanent neighborhood with. This neighborhood will have day & night chat.
Terracotta Army	Once per game, you may target a player at night to kill them.
The Parthenon	Each night, you may target a player to protect from a single killing action.

It is currently the Resolution Phase. Votes to lynch may not be cast until resolutions have been dealt with. The following Resolution is on the table:

Heritage Sites

• Cultural
  : At the end of each day phase, non-town players will be told what wonders from that era were successfully constructed. At the start of the next day phase, this information will be released publicly.
  
• Natural
  : Each era, wonders from the previous era may be built. However, attempting to build an already built wonder will result in failure.
  
• None
  : No event.

You have built great cities of stone and seen early empires rise and fall. Soon you will stand under the towering pinnacles of castles alongside your gallant knights. That is where the story of your people will be written. Just as the young apprentice learns to carry a sword, so shall you grow to understand your place in this world.

The following wonders are available for construction during the Medieval Era. Please submit build requests privately via PM.
Due to the effects of Natural Heritage Sites, wonders presented during the Classical Era may be built as well.

Chichen Itza	Each night, you may target two players to learn if they share an alignment. You may not target the same player twice with this ability.
Alhambra	Each night, you may target a player to cause all of their actions this night phase to fail.
The Great Wall	You are immune to all night actions. This ability will be lost after the first killing action which targets you.
The Hagia Sophia	Each night, you may target a player. Specify a wonder with an investigative action, as well as a potential result for that action. If your target is targeted by the specified wonder, the result of the investigation will become the result you provided.
Machu Picchu	(Available only to non-town players) Factional kills you perform will not flip with any information besides the player's name. Instead, you will be given all of this information privately.

It is currently the Resolution Phase. Votes to lynch may not be cast until resolutions have been dealt with. The following Resolution is on the table:

Standing Army Tax

• Yae
  : Factional abilities and non-passive wonder abilities may not be performed in the same night by a single slot. Non-town players may build two wonders each.
  
• Nay
  : No event.

[Alisae]

Spoiler: The wonders. Hint: They're wonderful

From the first stirrings of life beneath water... to man taking his first upright steps... to the great beasts of the Stone Age, you have come far. Now begins your greatest quest: from this early cradle of civilization on towards the stars.

The following Wonders are available for construction during the Ancient Era. Please submit build requests privately via PM.

The Hanging Gardens	Each night, you may target a player to protect from a single killing action.
The Pyramids	If you die, no information will be released along with your flip. You will become a treestump and may continue posting in the main thread. You will be dead for all other purposes.
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus	Each night, you may select a player to form a neighborhood with. This neighborhood will last only the following day & night phase.
Stonehenge	Each night, you may target a player. If you are killed during the night, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.
Statue of Zeus	Each night, target a player. The first time a killing action targets you, that action will instead be redirected to your target.
The Great Lighthouse	(Available only to non-town players) Factional topics you are a part of gain day chat as long as you are alive.

It is currently the Resolution Phase. Votes to lynch may not be cast until resolutions have been dealt with. The following Resolution is on the table:

Funding

• Sciences
  : Wonders will be viewable one era prior to when they become buildable.
  
• Arts
  : Each era, an extra wonder will be made available with vote or lynch related abilities.
  
• None
  : No event.

From humble beginnings, you have shown remarkable growth. Leave your bronze for iron and rule with horse and sword. The sky above begins to reveal its secrets, a collection of heaven that uplifts our hearts and guides us to foreign shores.

The following Wonders are available for construction during the Classical Era. Please submit build requests privately via PM.

The Oracle	Each night, you may ask the moderator a yes/no question about the setup as it existed before the game began.
Petra	Each night, you may target a player to learn who they visit, if anyone.
The Colossus	Upon construction, you may immediately target a single player to form a permanent neighborhood with. This neighborhood will have day & night chat.
Terracotta Army	Once per game, you may target a player at night to kill them.
The Parthenon	Each night, you may target a player to protect from a single killing action.

It is currently the Resolution Phase. Votes to lynch may not be cast until resolutions have been dealt with. The following Resolution is on the table:

Heritage Sites

• Cultural
  : At the end of each day phase, non-town players will be told what wonders from that era were successfully constructed. At the start of the next day phase, this information will be released publicly.
  
• Natural
  : Each era, wonders from the previous era may be built. However, attempting to build an already built wonder will result in failure.
  
• None
  : No event.

You have built great cities of stone and seen early empires rise and fall. Soon you will stand under the towering pinnacles of castles alongside your gallant knights. That is where the story of your people will be written. Just as the young apprentice learns to carry a sword, so shall you grow to understand your place in this world.

The following wonders are available for construction during the Medieval Era. Please submit build requests privately via PM.
Due to the effects of Natural Heritage Sites, wonders presented during the Classical Era may be built as well.

Chichen Itza	Each night, you may target two players to learn if they share an alignment. You may not target the same player twice with this ability.
Alhambra	Each night, you may target a player to cause all of their actions this night phase to fail.
The Great Wall	You are immune to all night actions. This ability will be lost after the first killing action which targets you.
The Hagia Sophia	Each night, you may target a player. Specify a wonder with an investigative action, as well as a potential result for that action. If your target is targeted by the specified wonder, the result of the investigation will become the result you provided.
Machu Picchu	(Available only to non-town players) Factional kills you perform will not flip with any information besides the player's name. Instead, you will be given all of this information privately.

It is currently the Resolution Phase. Votes to lynch may not be cast until resolutions have been dealt with. The following Resolution is on the table:

Standing Army Tax

• Yae
  : Factional abilities and non-passive wonder abilities may not be performed in the same night by a single slot. Non-town players may build two wonders each.
  
• Nay
  : No event.

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[Alisae]

Your Majesty, the senate things you would have taken counteractions to prevent such issues from happening.

[Alisae]

Reed why are you ignoring my vote?

Why do you expect him to react to it?

[Alisae]

What makes you think I'm lurking right now?
If anything the thread just has low activity atm so I'm just here chilling.
Why do you expect me to comment on just about every single thing?

[Alisae]

Reed why are you ignoring my vote?

Why do you expect him to react to it?

Why wouldnt i ? it was a naked vote and from an analysis of someone else, he posted like 10 posts after it and disregarded me completly

Well what does his lack of a reaction tell you?

What makes you think I'm lurking right now?
If anything the thread just has low activity atm so I'm just here chilling.
Why do you expect me to comment on just about every single thing?

I saw you immediately jump at CK's question with a counter question and was like "damn that was jumpy"

As long as I'm on the thread, yes you're supposed to comment on every single thing >_>

A. Okay and?
B. I SWEAR TO GAWD GIN YOU ARE NOT A PRETTY PRINCESS! -_-

[Alisae]

in my in-house scumtells book its a scumtell

Why?

[Alisae]

ok

[Alisae]

MY ONE TRUE LOVE IS

JAEREED

ASLAN THAT IS ALL

FTFY

[Alisae]

Cloudie what do you think about the gamestate and what even are your reads?

[Alisae]

CLOUDIE HE DID THE THINGY!
GARRYBOTE HE DID THE THINGY!

[Alisae]

no I concur

[Alisae]

I think that youre fairly coasty and normaly you are more engaging, but thats also how youve been playing in your recents games regardless of alignement so i havent sorted you atm.

Then sort me buddy!
Akane and Nebby ISO:
viewtopic.php?p=8826717&user_select%5B% ... 9#p8826717
My ISO:
viewtopic.php?p=8939052&user_select%5B% ... 0#p8939052

[Alisae]

Also even if Math is scum they shouldn't be lynched, they should get vigged btw.
pedit: that's not meta Cloudie those are my ISOs this game.

[Alisae]

Gin aren't you supposed to be doing catch-up?

[Alisae]

I don't mind the talking, don't get me wrong.
It just seems like you're doing the same exact thing you pushed ProHawk for in Spyro.

[Alisae]

The beloved catch up posters. TwoFace in mini nor-1862, played catch up, Large Normal 200, Wraith played catch up, etc.

Gin refering to this.

Also Nero no.

[Alisae]

OMGAWD I WASN'T TELLING HIM TO STAWP!
I just thought he wasn't going to do it at all so I was asking if he was. That's all really.

[Alisae]

P-Edit: Alisae, TwoFace would use it as an excuse as to why he wouldn't do actions and Wraith lurked/posted catch up walls. I still hold firm to that belief.

I'm actively participating in the current game state to get this slot up and running and I haven't used nor will I use "I haven't read up" as a reason to not participate.

Ooooooooooh okay I gotchu you do your thing.

[Alisae]

Each night, you may target a player. If you are killed during the night, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.

Each night, you may target a player. If you are killed during the night, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.

Each night, you may target a player. If you are killed during the night, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.

Each night, you may target a player. If you are killed during the night, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.

Math didn't want to be vigged n2 . Why would a own Math not want use the investigation ASAP. Someone anyone explain that to me.

I can try: Math is saving it for late game. AKA they're banking in living for as long as possible. Like, the later into the game it is, the more impact it'll have. Riiiiiiiight?

[Alisae]

An IC really gets the mileage flowing near end game as compared to early game.

and the inverse of the argument is that a guilty now would be more helpful as opposed to possibly getting on late game so there's some breathing room if we do mislynch.

In theory if the town isn't terrible at mafia, they shouldn't need breathing room.

[Alisae]

Hey! I said "In theory."
That doesn't mean that's how it works "In Pratice."

[Alisae]

No! This is shade!

[Alisae]

Hey LUV.
Remember Hogwarts?

[Alisae]

The Deo is the Titus Math hydra that existed, but then Titus left Math to do her thing.

[Alisae]

have a vig in play>>>>>"Don't shoot me tonight guys!"

and I'm all like why? And I think my suspicion is justified. Let a vig shoot her but that slot needs death.

NO. IT'S FUCKING NOT NERO.

NO ONE AS FUCKING SCUM DARES PLAY WITH A GUN TO THEIR HEAD LIKE THAT.

tbh I would.

[Alisae]

No Gin I agree with what you're saying.
I'm just saying as scum I would play with a gun to my head. Yeah know, like faking a CC and then taking said CC back.

[Alisae]

Ya know, like did in Spyro

[Alisae]

P-Edit: You did some crazy shit that game.

I still don't know how I got away with half of the shit I did.

[Alisae]

I mean I just feel like a town would be all like "ok there's a vig in play, let me get shot!" and I realize that the whole "I wan't scum to shoot me" and "I'm saving it for late game" are plausible explanations but I'm just not convinced.

Okay.
This may sound like a VERY stupid question.
But how do you know the vig wonder was built?
Like, the way you're talking right now assumes someone 100% took the vig wonder.

[Alisae]

Nero that's why I want to wagon Maxous.
Why don't you want to wagon Maxous?

[Alisae]

Also I wanna get rid of Maxous for other reasons.

[Alisae]

Nero that's why I want to wagon Maxous.
Why don't you want to wagon Maxous?

before I answer this...whats your nancy read?

Town.

[Alisae]

HOLY FUCK I ROLLED TOWN

FTFY

[Alisae]

Giiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin W@T R UR REEEEeeeeeEEEEEeeeeEEADZzzzzzzZZZZZzz

[Alisae]

It could be, but it's also likely that Spiff was just a tad bit more focused on you then he was on everyone else at the time. His vote was you and he was focused on moreso pressuring you.
I don't get how it leads to town!Max?

pedit: Awwwwwwww Nero, I just wanted to have some fun ;~;

[Alisae]

Actually Gin PV was the first person to even mention Math today, but he's a treestump so...

[Alisae]

Wish I could find my scum laughing in the background comment.

Why don't you wanna kill Maxous with me ;~;

[Alisae]

You, so far you've been cute and playful so it gives me a town lean on you because of the tell I told you I have on you.

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.
A personal tell doesn't work on a player if you tell them what that tell is.

[Alisae]

viewtopic.php?p=8936927#p8936927 The push starts around here or the next page.

[Alisae]

Wish I could find my scum laughing in the background comment.

Why don't you wanna kill Maxous with me ;~;

I think he's town

Why?

[Alisae]

Wish I could find my scum laughing in the background comment.

Why don't you wanna kill Maxous with me ;~;

I think he's town

Why?

He's consistently gone against the grain various times and his scum reads sound genuine. Also the way he was wagoned at the start of D1 makes me believe he's town.

nononononononono!
Your first point is bad because scum can do that too. Not to mention Maxous is a good player. D1 he sat on Kyouko and basicly ignored everything else. That's called coasting.
As for your 2nd point: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69562 Here I catch scum!Realeo just off of looking at the first vote count. Realeo has a wagon on him, then "Poof" it vanishes and there are 2 counter wagons which are both on town. Hell I even caught his scumbuddy with that VC.
pedit: With FUCKING CEASER, AND CLOUDIE ON THE TABLE? YEAH NO. I DON'T BUY THAT BULLSHIT FOR A SECOND.

[Alisae]

I don't get how it leads to town!Max?

Lets say that I'm scumreading you for being a lurker. And there's another lurker in the game but I am

NOT

scumreading that lurker. Wouldn't you be suspicious?

could you reply to this please.

Sure, didn't see it at first.
Okay fine I get this point, but my memory might be a little bit bad, but I don't specificly recall if Maxous was lurking back then or not.

[Alisae]

The second part of my point one is why I believe his going against the grain is more likely town then scum. I recall Max doing more than just sitting on Kyouko D1, he pushed Spiffy and even your slot. He also was very transparent and even threatened to take a vig like Wonder for himself if anyone but Drixx took Pyramids.

Don't really have a rebuttal to your VCA thing so you win there lol

I remember him pushing my slot. Like, hardly.
Him pushing Spiffy? I don't remember this at all.
Show me where he threatened to take this vig wonder?

[Alisae]

I don't get how it leads to town!Max?

Lets say that I'm scumreading you for being a lurker. And there's another lurker in the game but I am

NOT

scumreading that lurker. Wouldn't you be suspicious?

could you reply to this please.

Sure, didn't see it at first.
Okay fine I get this point, but my memory might be a little bit bad, but I don't specificly recall if Maxous was lurking back then or not.

He wasn't. I'm giving a hypotectical. I mean according to Spiff both and Max weren't participating in the d1 resolution phase so it seems odd to me that I was scum for it but Max was merely "disinterested".

Gimmie a moment to reread.

[Alisae]

Okay yeah, I see your point.