Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

MathBlade · Post Post #5658 (isolation #0) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:33 am

In post 5652, The DEO wrote:
That was Titus head. Math can keep playing.

I am still interested but

VOTE: Abr

I need a break from this thread for a bit.

MathBlade · Post Post #5670 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:53 am

In post 5668, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Little known fact, the Titus townblock inverse is an effective scumhunting technique taught across U.S. Ivy League colleges.

ABR please stop shading Titus when she is no longer in the game. I am lurking now that I get a chance to breathe and see what others are saying. Please.

My sister may have been uncooperative and IMHO on the mean side and demanding but shit like this doesn't make me want to work with you either.

Let me lurk in peace without the Titus attacks.

MathBlade · Post Post #5675 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:57 am

Moving on

I hope everyone's Valentine's Day was good?

Show of hands who thinks Yuri is scum?

MathBlade · Post Post #5679 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:59 am

In post 5672, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5670, MathBlade wrote:I am lurking now that I get a chance to breathe and see what others are saying.
just tell me why Spiff defending Yuri is a scumtell but A+N defending Spiff is not a scumtell.

Because Spiff was pressured by multiple players to vote Yuri and finally does.
Then gets off at the next opportunity on beeboy.

Spiff has never been a top wagon.
If it was a scum tell to defend a town read pretty sure all of us would be scum telling.

It is the context and vote counts that matter.

MathBlade · Post Post #5682 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:01 am

In post 5680, Akane and Nebby wrote:No one wubs me ;~;
-Nebby

I do you are awesome sauce. <3

I think BaeReed is awesome sauce too!!

MathBlade · Post Post #5691 (isolation #5) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:07 am

In post 5688, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Never have I seen a town plan out what night actions should be taken and everyone actual follow through.

I have several times

It depends on a few things.

Hell in Shadowrun Mafia town made me shoot the traitor instead of mislynching them.

Gave me less control.

I just would need everyone to honestly claim to have that work and only person that should claim is the Pyramids.

MathBlade · Post Post #5693 (isolation #6) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:14 am

In post 5692, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:No people should not claim.

The plan was to play things safe and town have information scum do not know. Pyramids and The Oracle do that.

I disagree. But I view it as Pyramids dying and not getting confirmed as a scum claim ATM.

If anyone claims Pyramids lynch them if they don't claim before EoD today.

The whole benefit to Pyramids is having an IC that is a town voice throughout the game.

If you are conftown claim. Doc if you exist protect and I cop.

MathBlade · Post Post #5694 (isolation #7) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:16 am

The hidden flip is too high a risk since Drixx didn't get it and Town didn't vote on who did so it is probably scum unless it claims.

MathBlade · Post Post #5698 (isolation #8) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:17 am

If the Pyramids flip I would 100% agree with you LUV but they don't.

MathBlade · Post Post #5701 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:18 am

In post 5697, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Scum have no reason to take Tree Stump. We've been over this.

You mean you said your schtick and had multiple people disagree.

Wait why am I arguing with scum?

Lol

I need to focus elsewhere.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:25 am

In post 5702, Akane and Nebby wrote:Also have you even read Camm's revenge?
Pine was a global impotentant child (Scum IC) Treestump.
Scum won that game.
-Nebby

In post 5704, Brian Skies wrote:Has anyone else noticed Creature only scumreading the players at the bottom of the post count?

Did earlier and asked and got drowned out.

Do you think it is Town motivated and agree with Titus head before or scum motivated and ducking content?

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:29 am

In post 5705, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Scum wouldn't waste priority on that lol

If I was scum (not obvi) I would get that.

The point is to win lynches as either alignment if the treestump is townread and listened to and has power scum can wreck even if they are not alive. In fact it makes the scum look disconnected.

Pyramids needs to claim.
If I am still alive and mass claim happens and someone claims it and it is LyLO I will lynch them without though.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:59 am

In post 5716, Creature wrote:Page 227

Was I force-replaced?

Not as far as I know?

*back to lurkerdom*

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:00 am

In post 5718, Leonshade wrote:
In post 5716, Creature wrote:Page 227

Was I force-replaced?

In post 4464, Akane and Nebby wrote:Creature I really do not understand how you get just about half of your conclusions.
-Nebby
And yes, Spiffeh doesn't replace out for that reason as scum.

I am seen scum replace outs and Town ones because I kept tunneling.

I will keep it under advisement and not vote Spiffeh today but I still scum read him pretty hard.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:20 am

I feel I literally have to read it as not alignment changing due to the rules of the first post.

Someone sell me a Spiffeh Town case that doesn't rely on that.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:57 am

Vecna please give me your thoughts.
ABR still a good lynch?

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:34 pm

In post 5728, Vecna wrote:Yes I think so.

There have been certain things that have stood out to me. Changes in behaviour at times that just seem very very suspicious to me.

Titus scumreads him; Instant activity, trying to be town, trying to push people to lynch in his 3 choices etc etc.

Titus gets replaced; "oh let me go V/LA / inactive for quite a while now"

He attacks me whenever its convenient. He hops onto me as soon as anyone else places a vote on me. He just flies whereever the wind takes him.

I have noone else in this game that comes even close to this ammount of red flags all over the place.

Not saying im 100% convinced, since a lot of people keep stating this isnt out of the ordinary but...I just cannot ignore al that stuff and ahve a good feeling about it. Ill remain suspicious of that slot for the rest of the game, so even if it is town id rather get rid of it to avoid mislynches later on. I feel him being town are pretty low odds though.

Scale of 1 being weakest sauce in the world
10 being lynch me if I am wrong revive me and lynch me again

Confidence level on ABR?

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:41 pm

In post 5738, Akane and Nebby wrote:It's a slot I want to re-evaluate.
-Nebby

I want to reevaluate it too.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:54 pm

In post 5743, Akane and Nebby wrote:Wowie Math it's like we have so much in common!
-Nebby
pedit: Why doesn't it feel genuine to you?

I know it is like we have some sort of like trying to work together thing.

Like OMG

/me cheerleader voice

Like I want people to like talk about things.

Like I wants to not be Town leader.

That sounds good.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:55 pm

In post 5750, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 5747, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5744, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Nero can you take your vote off Sondam?
Why?
Very slim chance they happened today and like I said earlier, if they take the vigilante like Wonder and shoot me, it is basically a scum claim.

So if anyone scumreads you it is a scumclaim?

~~Math

MathBlade · Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:57 pm

I don't feel it is.
Someone scumreads you enough to want you dead >> Build Wonder >> Vig you

How is that a scum claim?

~~Math

MathBlade · Post Post #5762 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:06 pm

In post 5269, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 5013, Nero Cain wrote:
@ mostly Brain and anyone else

pls vote Nebby.

They are scum b/c they tried to blame ABR for the Yuri wagon dissipating when it wasn't his fault. When I pointed this out they said that that wasn't what they were arguing. When I posted quotes of them arguing exactly that (4444 they didn't reply. He then goes on to call me confbias while still calling me scum. It doesn't make sense so I feel like they are scum that know that I am town. He then argued that there was nothing to respond to in 4444. While yes, 4444 doesn't ask a direct question, I find it oddly convenient that they have no response to the crux of my case.

Counterpoint: He's a VI (my words) but Spiff thinks that her blaming ABR comes from bad town and the Maria head of Sodom think she wouldn't be this mind boggingly stupid (embellishment mine)
Playing like I replaced in at this point, so I haven't read this part of the game where yuri got wagoned to L-1, but the timeline in your 4444 doesn't add up. A+N says it wasn't their argument and only later, after you've said it was their argument that they ended up saying it. Looks like gaslighting to me. Did A+N ever say that prior to 4378 when you initially brought up the point?

I am trying to reset. Please explain why this is a vig worthy post.

MathBlade · Post Post #5767 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:13 pm

This feels like policy lynches and vigs and not scumreads.

Everyone on name me a scumread of a player considered "active" and why they are.

With how many posts in this game normal activity looks like coasting scum. Day flip hasn't been 24 hours I don't think.

MathBlade · Post Post #5769 (isolation #23) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:14 pm

He isn't a hard townread but he is null. I will hammer it if a wagon starts but definitely not confident enough to vig it.

MathBlade · Post Post #5770 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:14 pm

In post 5768, Nero Cain wrote:Math, ask A+N why they avoided discussing your plan to investigate the pyramids/vig you?

Answer this question please A&N

Don't know why you are telling me to ask A&N :/

MathBlade · Post Post #5771 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:17 pm

You could like ask A&N yourself *facepalm*

MathBlade · Post Post #5773 (isolation #26) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:19 pm

Vecna assume ABR is scum who is he scum with?
Assume ABR is Town who is scum?

MathBlade · Post Post #5774 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:19 pm

In post 5772, Nero Cain wrote:They think I'm confbiased scum. lol

I think you are conf biased Town but if you have a question you deserve a right to have it asked.

MathBlade · Post Post #5776 (isolation #28) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:23 pm

In post 5775, Creature wrote:jesuiskyoukovigshot

I don't understand I gotta go to an evening appointment.

Please use spacebars and words.

MathBlade · Post Post #5778 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:25 pm

In post 5777, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Remember Je suis Charlie after the cartoonists in France were attacked by radical islamist terrorists? That's what he's referring to.

Sorry :/ I don't remember.

I struggle with social context. Please someone translate.

MathBlade · Post Post #5779 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:25 pm

How does a historical event relate to this game?

MathBlade · Post Post #5781 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:28 pm

What is this We are Charlie?

/me hides

Like i understand you want to vig the slot...

But why?

MathBlade · Post Post #5785 (isolation #32) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:30 pm

In post 5782, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5774, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5772, Nero Cain wrote:They think I'm confbiased scum. lol
I think you are conf biased Town but if you have a question you deserve a right to have it asked.
I very well could be. I think my points are valid that he can't think that I'm scum AND confbiased and the blaming ABR and then lie to me that they didn't argue that were both very scummy. There was also a post where he missreped Dave bad. I'm also not very sure why they didn't chime in on your plan. Though so many people coming out of the wood works to light defend them kinda make me thing I'm wrong and/or scum is defending for the town cred.

Nero they aren't scum.

I think questions you have should be answered.
But I think you are barking up the wrong tree.

MathBlade · Post Post #5786 (isolation #33) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:30 pm

Out the door.

MathBlade · Post Post #5794 (isolation #34) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:52 pm

In post 5790, Nero Cain wrote:
slots that are saying that I'm wrong

MathBlade
Leonshade
Elbirn
ssbm_Kyouko
davesaz
Sondam
NoticeMeSenpai
Spiffeh

slots that are or have sheeped me

Yuri
Albert B. Rampage

slots that haven't talked about it at all

Maxous
PeregrineV
Vecna
Creature
Brian Skies
Caesar Wills It
Lil Uzi Vert

Who are scum, Math?

I am trying to reset but my gut keeps pinging me on the same people.

Elbrin would be one who agreed. Yuri/ABR on the sheeps.
LUV and TBD haven't talked about.

MathBlade · Post Post #5802 (isolation #35) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:51 pm

Not all people are going to care.

Apathy is NAI this game.

Still AFK

MathBlade · Post Post #5858 (isolation #36) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:39 pm

In post 5819, nancy wrote:Omg you called me babe

Hi babe <3

Cute avvy!!

Nero will do so later still AFK

MathBlade · Post Post #5882 (isolation #37) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:30 pm

In post 5878, nancy wrote:TR Math, LUV, Caesar, Aslan hydra, Fro99er

5864 is a scumclaim

Yuri likely scum

SR Vecna, ABR, Leonshade, ssbm, Nero

Going to read more but I gotta say our reads already syngergized more than old Spiffeh slot.
Oh which I don't know to be scared or feel good.

Did your slot leave notes or anything on why it townread Yuri?

One of the main reasons I suspect Spiffeh was the voting IMHO on the Yuri wagon was bad.

What makes it a scum claim?

Will catch up on rest tomorrow.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:34 am

In post 5878, nancy wrote:TR Math, LUV, Caesar, Aslan hydra, Fro99er

5864 is a scumclaim

Yuri likely scum

SR Vecna, ABR, Leonshade, ssbm, Nero

Talk with me about possible
Yuri+Vecna+ABR+Elbrin+LUv team

Why do you TR LUV

I scumread LUV hard.

I think Vecna+ABR scum but that bus is mighty hard for people to swallow. If either are wrong though it is probably Vecna and ABR scum.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:35 am

Excuse any grammar etc errors trying to sleep but keep getting woke up

MathBlade · Post Post #5983 (isolation #40) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:11 am

In post 5951, nancy wrote:
In post 5948, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5878, nancy wrote:TR Math, LUV, Caesar, Aslan hydra, Fro99er

5864 is a scumclaim

Yuri likely scum

SR Vecna, ABR, Leonshade, ssbm, Nero

Talk with me about possible
Yuri+Vecna+ABR+Elbrin+LUv team

Why do you TR LUV

I scumread LUV hard.

I think Vecna+ABR scum but that bus is mighty hard for people to swallow. If either are wrong though it is probably Vecna and ABR scum.
If LUV is scum then he's been distancing and bussing hard all game - or ABR isn't scum. I know you don't like VCA so go through his ISO and look at who he pushes.

Elbrin is Town so that doesn't work for me. Vecna could be scum here but I don't really feel like eating the AtE from the slot right now so I'm not voting it. I don't have a solid read there anyway. Good chance that Yuri is scum based off wagon interactions. I could potentially see LUV/ABR/Vecna scum that are just going full steam ahead bus mode but that's just idle speculation tbh.

I don't know who you are but since you seem to know something about me. I love VCA. I just think how most people use it is crap. I did some earlier actually. VCA is only useful during reflection after periods of activity which have certain forced interactions. Also the more info you have the better theygenerally can be.

VCA to me seems to indicate all three? Can you show me how you did yours? Like between that none resolution and this one seems kinda bad.

Like I really think ABR/LUV/Vecna/Yuri is a thing.

MathBlade · Post Post #5984 (isolation #41) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:14 am

Regarding Elbrin I am wish washy. Could easily wait and see based on how this goes.

Would prefer an ABR lynch today but Vecna also good

MathBlade · Post Post #5987 (isolation #42) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:44 am

Dave/SSBM/Creature/Elbrin can't get the other one. Rest are hard Town reads.

MathBlade · Post Post #5990 (isolation #43) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:57 am

So?

Hydra is NAI.

MathBlade · Post Post #5998 (isolation #44) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:15 am

In post 5997, Vecna wrote:
In post 5976, Leonshade wrote:
In post 5807, Akane and Nebby wrote:I am a mighty lion.
Hear me rawr.

-Nebby
There's only one lion here.
Gonna check out your Elbrin case later.

Hmm, I like Notice's response to me. I may have just gotten the idea that Jae = scum and confbiased their complaints into scummy when they're probably NAI.
I think i understand what you meant here, and I felt the same way. Which once again shows me we have the same thought process. Good.

(That is, if youre just not simply copying me since everything we think is creepily similair )

If you're Town told you JaeReed was Town.

I may be insane and hard to understand but I am kinda okay with townreads of meta if I find a pattern.

MathBlade · Post Post #6000 (isolation #45) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:16 am

In post 5990, MathBlade wrote:So?

Hydra is NAI.

In post 5991, Creature wrote:Two of your hard townreads are wrong.

Tell me which and why.

MathBlade · Post Post #6007 (isolation #46) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:35 am

In post 6006, Creature wrote:
In post 6000, MathBlade wrote:Tell me which and why.
I think there are five scum left and you're wrong on me (though not on others), so two of your hard townreads must be wrong.

That is assuming all my scumreads were wrong.

Tell me why all my scumreads are wrong with the current VC.

Napping be back later.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:28 am

In post 6012, Creature wrote:
In post 6007, MathBlade wrote:Tell me why all my scumreads are wrong with the current VC.
Your only wrong scumread is me.

Correction:

PV asked if all my current scumreads are wrong.

Which are currently Yuri/LUV/ABR/Vecna in no particular order.

Please explain how all of those are Town.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:30 am

In post 6013, Creature wrote:Why are you townreading Sondam?

Her entrance. She doesn't do what she did there as scum.

Don't want to get into meta tells so that way I can see if it works reliably.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:51 am

In post 6021, Creature wrote:Oh right, thought you had only Dave/SSBM/me/Elbirn as scumreads.

Still haven't answered the question why each one of my scumreads is town.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:10 pm

In post 6019, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6012, Creature wrote:
In post 6007, MathBlade wrote:Tell me why all my scumreads are wrong with the current VC.
Your only wrong scumread is me.
Correction:

PV asked if all my current scumreads are wrong.

Which are currently
Yuri/LUV/ABR/Vecna
in no particular order.

Please explain how all of those are Town.

Tell me why you townread everyone in bold.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:53 pm

In post 6038, nancy wrote:I really want to digest reads with Senpai but I don't have a TR on the slot right now sadly.

They're town Nancy <3
They were a possible mislynch wagon to Yuri and are on Aussie time.
The entire original reason for the wagon was "lurker"
Then a slip argument
Then no reasons since.

Sendai/JaeReed is town.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:57 pm

In post 5951, nancy wrote:
In post 5948, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5878, nancy wrote:TR Math, LUV, Caesar, Aslan hydra, Fro99er

5864 is a scumclaim

Yuri likely scum

SR Vecna, ABR, Leonshade, ssbm, Nero

Talk with me about possible
Yuri+Vecna+ABR+Elbrin+LUv team

Why do you TR LUV

I scumread LUV hard.

I think Vecna+ABR scum but that bus is mighty hard for people to swallow. If either are wrong though it is probably Vecna and ABR scum.
If LUV is scum then he's been distancing and bussing hard all game - or ABR isn't scum. I know you don't like VCA so go through his ISO and look at who he pushes.

Elbrin is Town so that doesn't work for me. Vecna could be scum here but I don't really feel like eating the AtE from the slot right now so I'm not voting it. I don't have a solid read there anyway. Good chance that Yuri is scum based off wagon interactions. I could potentially see LUV/ABR/Vecna scum that are just going full steam ahead bus mode but that's just idle speculation tbh.

Mainly I see both as scum because of the wagon split. Almost everyone is voting ABR and Vecna. If it was scum V town I would expect more defenses of ABR and Vecna. However scum don't know which wagon is going down so they don't want to look connected to their partner. So they aren't really defending either wagon.

Just a hunch though.

If I am wrong and it is SvT it is almost certainly Vecna who is the townie. ABR just doesn't make this many setup mistakes.

MathBlade · Post Post #6044 (isolation #53) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:04 pm

Ugh.

The only thing that scares me is I scumread your slot you do a 180 practically agree with me after Spiffeh does nothing but call me an idiot.

Like gaaaaaah.

This is like I like you so much I townread you so much it makes me doubt my townread of you bad.

MathBlade · Post Post #6046 (isolation #54) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:23 pm

MathBlade · Post Post #6051 (isolation #55) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:19 pm

Honestly I can't. Our hydra was so dysfunctional Titus just kinda screamed her reads at me and then didn't like it when I didn't agree said I wasn't allowed to post and then it kinda just got worse from there.

We had a three hour lunch which was pretty much Math you suck. Then she said there was no way we could agree Vecna was Pyramids and we should just claim. At first I said no but then after more shit I just caved. Vecna confirmed not Pyramids so at this point I tried to save the situation. I understand none of her reads sorry. Part of why I tried resetting when she left.

MathBlade · Post Post #6052 (isolation #56) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:19 pm

I have scumread Yuri for the longest time.

MathBlade · Post Post #6064 (isolation #57) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:47 pm

In post 6063, Nero Cain wrote:@Math don't you have another hydra with Titus? Twin Trap?

Only other hydra I have with Titus is Double Trouble.

*shrug*

DT played Thing Mafia.
RC contacted me about Titus and I figured I would try again with her to hydra.
Then this was probably the last time I hydra with Titus.

MathBlade · Post Post #6065 (isolation #58) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:48 pm

In post 6060, nancy wrote:I'm also very happy with a Yuri lynch if we could make that happen.

I would prefer that. The Vecna lynch is more conditional.

MathBlade · Post Post #6082 (isolation #59) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:08 pm

In post 6069, nancy wrote:MathBlade do you hate townblocs this game? Because from what I can see Town is all over the place and we need to get our act into gear and start hanging scumfucks.

I hate townblocs almost every game.
Especially since Titus tried to form one with like all of my scumreads.

Who would you put in it?

MathBlade · Post Post #6083 (isolation #60) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:09 pm

Unless you are right it is a popularity contest and at that point things go so far down hill.

MathBlade · Post Post #6087 (isolation #61) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:15 pm

In post 6085, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6068, Nero Cain wrote:Why did you and Titus create a new hydra for this game? What does RC have to do with anything? Did you guys fight in Thing mafia?

This hydra was one that got made because I was an original secret part of a hydra.

Even wrote a post that said "I am Titus" or something like that.

We used this one because the other had bad memories and an easier password.

MathBlade · Post Post #6088 (isolation #62) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:15 pm

In post 6086, nancy wrote:@Nero No, it isn't.

Because my reads are not based on a single criterion.

@Math Atm I'm not too sure beyond you, Caesar, and Senpai. My reads aren't solid enough yet. We really need to start doing some serious organizing, though. I couldn't care less about popularity contests, that's not what townblocs are.

I could do that.

MathBlade · Post Post #6090 (isolation #63) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:17 pm

In post 6089, Akane and Nebby wrote:lol LUV being manipulative.
That's cute.
-Nebby

I think A&N is a good pick too.

MathBlade · Post Post #6092 (isolation #64) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:21 pm

Townblock nancy wants.

MathBlade · Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:30 pm

You can demand what you want but it is 1:30 am. Tomorrow is devoted to packing and job hunting and if I have time Mafia.

I very likely will not have time to do a VCA of the entire game when the first one took me four hours and got spat on by everyone in the game.

Not only that but I would have to do it twice. For 57 vote counts.

You can demand shit but I am going to bed.
But after being ridiculed and called an idiot I can't really be bothered to have a sleepless night after having trouble the night before.
I can't read you for shit right now.
And Titus just never explained her townread of you no matter how much I asked and considering she was wrong on you and Pyramids.

Quite frankly I don't give a fuck and I don't respond to demands like that. I will do it when I can.

~~Math

MathBlade · Post Post #6171 (isolation #66) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:40 am

Ugh. AFK for the rest of the day.

I still wish ABR or Yuri lynched more so than Vecna as I think that is SVS between Vecna and ABR and if not Vecna is the Town of the two.

~~Math

MathBlade · Post Post #6230 (isolation #67) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:30 pm

But Senator Caesar, what if that made our insides erupt with glorious laughter?

Then may we continue to use the vernacular ?

I am still AFK but I hope to get to this later tonight.

MathBlade · Post Post #6234 (isolation #68) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:22 pm

I am going to setup my computer now.

I have a few other things to do then I will get started on this.

Please don't hammer Vecna while I do this or I will be extremely pissed.

After words I will leave a last will of sorts in case Town does shoot me. (I don't think scum will as it would give credence to my case and they have been working towards destroying Titus and my credibility. But if scum and Town do hey one less townie dead.)

MathBlade · Post Post #6236 (isolation #69) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:24 pm

FYI if anyone needs my "hack" later here it is:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... view=print

It gives all of Nahdia's posts in a nice easy to read format and can be copy pasted and just put

Name here

and

Name here

and do a find replace and spoiler it.

You'll need to ISO the moderator
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8878370

highlight the user select portion including the ampersand

&user_select[]=27489

then paste it directly before &view=print

It isn't perfect you'll still have to do some cleanup but it gives a nice votable list for VCAs.

MathBlade · Post Post #6237 (isolation #70) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:25 pm

In post 6236, MathBlade wrote:FYI if anyone needs my "hack" later here it is:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... view=print

It gives all of Nahdia's posts in a nice easy to read format and can be copy pasted and just put [**color=green]Name here[/color] and [**color=red]Name here[/color] and do a find replace and spoiler it.

You'll need to ISO the moderator
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8878370

highlight the user select portion including the ampersand

&user_select[]=27489

then paste it directly before &view=print

It isn't perfect you'll still have to do some cleanup but it gives a nice votable list for VCAs.

Bah EBWOP remove the stars when doing the find replace.

MathBlade · Post Post #6240 (isolation #71) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:41 pm

Vote counts for each day.

Spoiler: D1 VCs with beeboy, Frogger and The DEO colored

Spoiler: Day 2 VCs with MathBlade and The DEO colored

MathBlade · Post Post #6241 (isolation #72) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:17 pm

None (11): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, Sondam, Spiffeh, Albert B. Rampage, Elbirn, Leonshade, Akane and Nebby, Maxous,

beeboy

,

The DEO

beeboy

(11): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Elbirn, Albert B. Rampage,

Fro99er

, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Leonshade, Drixx, Yuri
Natural (10): Maxous,

The DEO

, Akane and Nebby, Spiffeh, Drixx, Albert B. Rampage, Vecna, Creature, Leonshade, NoticeMeSenpai

These are the three completed wagons

Now we go through and tally how many wagons each player was on. If they are not on this list it is 0 or I made a mistake. I'm doing this faster than usual so if I made a mistake anywhere feel free to let me know.

LUV - 1
Vecna - 2
Sondam - 1
Spiffeh - 3
ABR - 3
Elbrin - 2
Leonshade - 3
A&N - 3
Maxous - 2
Beeboy - 1 -- conftown dead
The DEO - 2
SSBM - 1
PV - 1
Frogger - 1 - conftown dead
Creature - 2
Drixx - 2
Yuri - 1
Senpai - 1

This means with 19 players in this list two players aren't on it at all. Notably Caesar and Nero Cain.

MathBlade · Post Post #6242 (isolation #73) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:19 pm

whoops forgot davesaz too. So three people need looking at. This is what happens when you do stuff fast sometimes.

MathBlade · Post Post #6243 (isolation #74) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:44 pm

If every lynch was a struggle to a hammer I'd say multiple people off all the wagons could be scum then I would say that. But the resolutions go insanely fast. It's for this reason I'm thinking at most one of davesaz, Caesar, and Nero Cain could be scum.

I'd also like to submit that the ooba slot davesaz submitted into seemed to flake and lose interest. Based on this I'd like to submit of the lurkers it's probably not dave. (And I use lurker here to mean "active lurking" rather than not posting here. ) Caesar/Pine role plays a lot and is generally a lower content poster. So if any of those three people are scum I'd hypothesize it'd be Nero Cain if I'm wrong on any of my scumreads. Simply because he's not really all that present in the resolution points and doesn't talk too much about the active wagons. However my read on him is derp!Town for pushing A&N.

Also of the people on all three wagons I doubt all of them could be scum. Spiffeh/nancy, Leonshade, and ABR, and A&N. At most 3 of these are scum. There's no way all of them would be scum here. So this scum team is eliminated. Spiffeh/nancy being at the front end of all of them may mean my scumread of that slot was originally wrong. Combined with how nancy has dramatically changed the slot of Spiffeh means either A) Spiffeh was scum and he was genuine and my reads were wrong ish. or B) Spiffeh was town and thought my reads are wrong ish but my reads are right ish. I'm going to hold off judgment on that slot. Leonshade towards the middle on none combined with the ISO of Leonshade doesn't really worry me all that much. How he states agreements and disagreements quickly makes me really like the slot. Then we have ABR and A&N. A&N's distribution doesn't really beget one of a scum mentality. Beeboy lynch was apathy and people just started hopping on at the end. End of that wagon is literally NAI as fuck. This leaves ABR who pretty much has been a waffling scumread of mine for a while. Combined with the "middle of the road" spot in VCAs despite being a vocal player is scary.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:04 pm

Now let's segment out all the people that were on one and two of the wagons. This one is more of a non alignment indicative grey area. Without a narrative it's harder to place where each person belongs.

LUV, Sondam, SSBM, PV, Yuri, Senpai are all one vote people who are not confirmed town.

Then there's Vecna, Elbrin, Maxous, Creature and Drixx who are not confirmed town. I'm not scumhunting myself. Get over it

This is already an insane amount of work.

Now with the one vote people and two vote people looking at the end vote count on Beeboy. Piling on Beeboy is literally NAI (as mentioned before)

So revising this we have
Drixx/Brian Skies to a one voter wagon. The way he had Pyramids and I had to say this the replace out are pretty townie as fuck.
Creature stays on the 2 wagon vote pool (and anyone before him is not apathy) as Creature's ISO has genuine reasons for the vote.
Yuri goes down to a 0 wagon vote pool
-- Out of the zero voters I scumread Yuri a hell of a lot more than I do Nero atm. But If I'm wrong on Yuri, Nero is a good bet too. He could be faking the town Derpiness.

This means LUV, Sondam, SSBM, PV, Senpai and Drixx.
Drixx is obv town for obvious reasons.
Sondam is pretty much obv town because of her entrance but if I'm wrong on LUV (more on that in a minute) then Sondam is a pretty good place to start.
SSBM is lurky and low activity. Probably didn't notice the wagon shifts and had a genuine read on Beeboy from their ISO. Probably town.
PV is town by entrance. I don't see any active collusion or distancing here.
Senpai is a townread for right now but could also be buddying me with Nancy. It just feels to genuine to be scummy right now. However the vote push on Vecna and backing off is making me reconsider this townblock thing the way they both did it. I want to see these two both on a scum wagon before I get too comfortable.
LUV I just don't see as town at this point. Combined with the push on none and his post on beeboy 1583 I scumread LUV pretty hard atm. The LUV spot based on studying meta uses "gut" and "ping" a lot to describe their scum meta and makes more expansive (although not by much) points on this here. I just don't like how LUV's posting is in general right now.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:14 pm

Vecna, Elbrin, Maxous, Creature

Vecna's waffle on beeboy makes it hard to tell if he belongs with the 3 wagon group (meaning more likely scum) or the 2 wagon group genuinely (more likely town) going to punt til I get to the more indepth parts.
Elbrin I hate to say is another punt. I waffle back and forth. So does my inner gut. It's annoying. Plus A&N's blame Math post about their Elbrin read has me skeptical as fuck. Why the hell would you blame me for your reads? You hardly talk to me. If nancy and Senpai are buddying me A&N goes to the scum list.
Maxous I'm pretty sure is town so that's good. Ending on None and the natural push and not on the beeboy wagon. I love post 6130. Pretty good town read.
Creature I waffle on. He seems like he's trying to get a wagon everyone will agree on rather than something useful.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:19 pm

Yuri pretty much at this point is scum based on narrative alone. However I like Leonshade's vote here.
It looks like SSBM may be trying to avoid the ABR/Vecna debate by hopping on Yuri here. If SSBM can avoid scum wagons yet vote scum that can be perceived as nai while actually not discussing either of the two slots.

So I'm currently operating under two theories:
1) ABR/Yuri/LUV, with maybe a side of Vecna.
OR
2) nancy/Senpai/A&N with a major buddying going on. It's something I've been toying with for a while but that "I'll just blame math" post feels very scummy. Like if I didn't have X to townread you for I honestly would vote you to get a reaction right now.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:19 pm

Vecna I'm doing the VCA you asked for please stop quoting posts and let me do my shit please.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:21 pm

In post 6175, Akane and Nebby wrote:It's okay I can just blame Math.
-Nebby

FYI This is the post about A&N that has me extremely worried.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:26 pm

In post 6254, Vecna wrote:Notice that ceasar;
-doesnt care about the fact abr used way stronger ate with the replace put thing but doesnt mind this.
-ignores the fact that abr is way way more self involved while attacking titus and causing all thst chaos.
-doesnt engage ever about the point that abr lurked untill he came under fire, at which time he is suddenly hyper active.

Now abr is conveniently gone while ceasar takes over pushing my wagon. Trying to reduce the blowback on abr because they know ill flip town.

ABR and ceasar are scum together. Ceasar only takes the points from me as scum indicative but cannot see the harm when abr does it way worse.

WAKE UP PEOPLE. EVERYONE IS HOPPING ON EVEN AFTER TOWNREADING ME ALL GAME. I AM THE SCUM WAGON.

Vecna, while I agree it is fishy people are hopping onto you. It's more about finding the motivation why. If you scream you are the scum wagon it doesn't have as much weight. If you let me look at things and then try to see where the scum are then it may help to understand what is going on. You asked me to do it.

Caesar or in our not as esteemed vernacular Pine/Aeronaut did the same thing in Undertale. Some of the things you're pointing out are NAI for Pine and if anyone knows him these are damaging to your case. I understand you are trying to push you are town (and whether that comes from a genuine belief or not I need to analyze) but coming back and trying to find posts like this is not productive. You demanded I do something. If you think I'm wrong somewhere in my VCA please point it out.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:27 pm

In post 6255, Vecna wrote:Also i attempted to build stonehenge yesterday, the most pro town wonder availlable in that selection with zero utility for scum.

Notice how i was super pissed at deo getting it over me and then wasting its utility in the way they did.

Hell I'm pissed we claimed. :/ But that's spilled milk. Titus thought she had things figured out and had a plan and just wanted out a long time ago. She just said she couldn't because I'd ruin the game. :/ (sigh)

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:31 pm

In post 6258, Vecna wrote:I dont care if hes town or not math. People are sheeping his flawed as fuck reasoning after townreading me all game. I demonstrate his reasoning applies to abr much more.

This is bullshit.

It may be bullshit. I've been voted for stupid shit too. It's about farming the bullshit for the scums and pulling them out and going "AHAH this is a grade A turd".

Whether or not Caesar is town or not (if he's not town it's almost certainly the buddying theory) and both you and ABR are town ripping each other to shreds and scum is laughing back in the background.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:33 pm

In post 6261, Vecna wrote:And yes there is obvious scum motivation in only applying standards to one person while townreading another for the very same things.

There is that motivation. However you and ABR have been at each other's throats all game and it's the same problem with Titus and myself. Very little has been able to develop. A couple of people are pushing lurkers but that is NAI because it might be disinterest due to posts or just flat out scum. It's the middle of the road people who haven't really built any streams that worries me.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:36 pm

In post 6263, Vecna wrote:Abr: "im vla because theres no internet in america"

Also he calls it a conference that he went to, but i actually went through his saga game and last year it was a vacatio , not a conference.

He is full of shit and his absence is by design for ingame reasons.

I will never read someone as scum for VLA. If he does that and wins as scum he doesn't deserve the win because he never posted.
Attacking RL is pretty fucking low. Stop it.

We get it. You think ABR is scum. You think the wagon is bullshit. Until you are calm enough to explain why without having to throw up caps every three seconds it only convinces us that's what you want us to believe. It doesn't demonstrate any genuineness and it makes things harder to follow. Please...I get it.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:38 pm

In post 6266, Vecna wrote:But hey, i guess scum woukd go digging through 1 year old games to demonstrate that someone that is town might be lying, right?

RIGHT?

Yes I have as scum. Just stop please.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:45 pm

Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:36 am
None (2): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:12 am
None (5): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, Sondam, Spiffeh, Albert B. Rampage

8:32 am
Resolution Vote 1.03
None (8): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, Sondam, Spiffeh, Albert B. Rampage,

Fro99er

, Elbirn, Leonshade

This is a very weird wagon for a 21 player game. This built up in less than an hour and started to be an overwhelming majority I want to find out why.

Pedit:
Jesus Christ...WTF. *sigh*

Why the hell did he just replace out when I'm trying to figure out if he's town to save him if he is?

This .......is..........infuriating. You ask me to spend time on a shit long task and then replace out. That isn't cool.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:46 pm

did it just replace out* When I'm trying to figure out if it's town to save it if it is.

Sorry Vecna

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:48 pm

I just wanted some piece and quiet so if you were town I could help you rather than arguments here that would have trouble being understood.
If you are scum I wanted to pin you to the wall

Like....

This should not be a thing.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:49 pm

peace* Ugh now I can't spell.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:52 pm

And now we have to figure out if Vecna's replace out is because he's frustrated town about to be mislynched for what it perceives to be stupid ideas. Or if he's frustrated scum for both of the wagons. And it's not here to answer any questions. *sigh*

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:53 pm

Well...At this point it's 2 in the morning I might as well finish this puppy and bring it home. I didn't spend this much time on this to not finish and have it go to waste.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:59 pm

In post 6278, Nero Cain wrote:Has A+N has potential scum, Calls be dumb for pushing their potential scum.

Nero...I am doing VCA and trying to realize where I might be snowed. If you were in my shoes you'd say something similar here. I am trying to understand why A&N is posting the way they are. I am coming around to it as an alternate theory based on VCA. If A&N is scum I will take the humble pie and eat it.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:03 pm

You can have a light townread for that ssbm.

Pedit: Nero ...If we were scum I would site ban us for how unsportsmanlike this is. I have thoughts as scum. As scum I want the game to be fun for people. As town I do too but as scum I worry about replaceouts because then they have fresh eyes.

Vecna's replace out is NAI.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:10 pm

In post 6283, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6280, MathBlade wrote:Nero...I am doing VCA and trying to realize where I might be snowed. If you were in my shoes you'd say something similar here. I am trying to understand why A&N is posting the way they are. I am coming around to it as an alternate theory based on VCA. If A&N is scum I will take the humble pie and eat it.
no you aren't. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth here b/c you are either scum or you can't make up your mind and instead of admit it you'd rather pretend like you are still doing things. A+N is defiantly scummy for the things I've already talked about. A+N could be a town slot if people like Dave and Sodam are scum.

Nero...I promise VCA is a process. I do it as both alignments. I do not see the scummy things you said earlier I just don't. And further more if I was scum with A&N why pivot here.

Drixx replace out is AI to me but talking about replace outs is very very dodgy.
I think people will have opinions about it.
Hell I debated replacing out a few times but didn't want to do that to Nahdia.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:14 pm

In post 6287, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 6231, Akane and Nebby wrote:Dave because he's a scumread of mine.
Also
VOTE: Vecna
-Nebby
Wait you hopped from ABR to me and then quickly hopped off but went to Vecna instead of back to ABR. Why? Like I know you're whimsical with your vote but why not back to ABR, why to Vecna?

That's one of the theories I'm working on...If ABR and Vecna is TvT then the Caesar wagon was the one that was on scum and dissolved.

Bloody hell I'm not getting done with this VCA today am I. I'll have to do it tomorrow.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:18 pm

In post 6231, Akane and Nebby wrote:Dave because he's a scumread of mine.
Also
VOTE: Vecna
-Nebby

This post concerns me very much for other reasons.

Did you do what I did in Shadowrun? This would make so much sense if BaeReed is scum.

Holy fuck.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:23 pm

This could actually be a Yuri/A&N/Senpai/Caesar scum team, and maybe a slice of ABR.

Like Damn.

In Shadowrun I was very talkative in a lot of different places and generally read as obv town for it. That game also had hood mechanics and pretty much just let town run away with improper narratives. Then when I was pigeonholed ABR thought KC was my partner but I kept begging him to shoot me (1 shot bp) but then the game ended as three scum alive three town alive.

This kinda looks like the same scenario possible.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:24 pm

I just wish Vecna was here because this Vecna wagon now feels like garbage.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:26 pm

You know what...I think I know where I want my vote...

VOTE: Caesar

Consider the town block rescinded nancy.

Senpai consider yourself on notice.

Caesar please explain how you are going to benefit this town and how you are not scum trying to buddy up to my prior scumread of Vecna?

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:26 pm

In post 6299, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6297, MathBlade wrote:I just wish Vecna was here because this Vecna wagon now feels like garbage.
maybe we can lynch Creature then?

How about we do Caesar?...The wagon that dissolved into both these other wagons.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:28 pm

You know what...I actually like nancy as scum here. I think I was just so horribly wrong here. And Spiffeh couldn't take the hydra dissonance maybe. I just don't like how nancy has many possible scumreads like that.

Titus...I may eventually owe you an apology if you were right but we have got to talk on your reasons and how we work as a hydra. Like damn that's horrible communication.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:32 pm

I was waffling. nancy may be buddying me. I have personal reasons I can't really share because if I'm wrong that's really bad for town. I wanna see where this Caesar wagon goes.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:36 pm

In post 6306, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6303, Leonshade wrote:"if he's town" so it's literally his town meta according to you.
no its fucking not. I'm saying that if he's town and replaced out of a game this large and bloated since there was atleast one real claim and one maybe fake claim I'm saying that that's immature as hell. I don't think I've played with Spiff recently at all. How would I know his meta?

Bloody hell... Can we just agree that the Spiffeh replace out regardless of alignment was not good and focus on Caesar please?

Trying to interrogate someone while they aren't here means both of you are going to dig into your trenches and think the other is mistaken.

How about we give some rope to Caesar and see how that goes?

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:36 pm

In post 6307, Nero Cain wrote:leon/creature/sodam/dave/????? team?

That is not supported by VCA at all Nero.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:38 pm

In post 6310, Nero Cain wrote:VCA is junk.

Okay...listing a lot of people without reasons is junk.
Listing people who haven't been contributing to the day is junk.
This is literally a list of lurkers/active lurkers with the exception of Leon who hasn't lead shit.

Majority of this is probably town if not all of it.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:41 pm

Caesar was probably the right wagon and I was an idiot.

Can we put "Sorry Titus" on my gravestone when I die?

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:42 pm

In post 6312, Maxous wrote:I am not impressed that people who contributed to this game being a bloated toxic mess took the huff and replaced out.

I'm not either...

Thoughts on Caesar Maxous?

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:46 pm

In post 6317, Maxous wrote:I still think pine is very very town, Math

Why? Break it down for me.

I'm pretty nervous when someone says they will "blame me" for things (A&N) and then makes me paranoid of the Caesar wagon dying and I know those things don't seem related at all but I promise they are.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:50 pm

I kinda wish we could have people vote for theories atm

LUV/ABR/Yuri (with maybe a slice of Vecna)

OR

Caesar/Senpai/A&N/Yuri

Like...logically I think Yuri is scum but that doesn't really tell us enough about either theory.

MathBlade · Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:54 pm

It's just a matter of if Titus poking at ABR because Titus and ABR didn't get along and then that started ABR v Vecna world war 3

OR

If Titus poking at ABR was actually provoking ABR because he's scum and I really suck at figuring out which.

And if ABR actually is town he can be freaking good. But with Caesar just not as leadery of a type.

I'm going to bed...I think I want to see some responses from A&N later and see if the Caesar wagon should be restarted.
Or if I'm just going insane from buddying paranoia and A&N actually has a good reason to blame me for reads because town doesn't disperse blame.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:00 am

In post 6323, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6216, Vecna wrote:
In post 6210, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6206, Vecna wrote:
In post 6203, Nero Cain wrote:also Vecna, whats your current Yuri read.
I have no idea on the slot. The wagon on it d1 was quite good, i agreed that its later defenses indeed sounded quite towny but i just wish it would have some better contributions into which i could properly read into.
See, this is my big thing. Like if Yuri was such a strong scum read for so many people why is he not a thing today? I realize that, myself included, people are sometimes really fickle with their reads but at the same time I think (and yes I know its a slight contradiction) I think that town players will continue to have a scum read on a player that they were scumreading previously. So why did the Yuri hate stop and not roll over from d1? So it sorta feels like Yuri was a viable mislynch d1 and now the scum that were on the wagon don't want to push against the grain.
Quite possible nero. Either that or hes still scum that likes the current direction so is laying low. Im not quite sure what it is.
thoughts Math.

That paragraph is nai. Sometimes when wagons die and don't get reformed is because it was a scum bus or a scum wagon and noise from other areas stops it and stays fresh. Or sometimes it is as Vecna described.

Bed sounds great.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:35 am

In post 6334, Vecna wrote:
In post 6312, Maxous wrote:I am not impressed that people who contributed to this game being a bloated toxic mess took the huff and replaced out.
I agree, and I'll continue. Taking a break from thread for a bit.

Lynch me if you must.

/end ate

Want to join me on a Caesar is scum wagon?

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:44 am

In post 6338, Caesar Wills It wrote:
Senator Mathblade, you are out of order. Restrain yourself, or the Praetorian Guard shall take you into custody until your madness has passed. We disdain to respond to your spurious allegations, as they have no basis in fact.

Likewise, we dismiss the heathen Vecna's protestations of innocence. When he submitted his resignation to the Senate Exchequer, We briefly considered that We may have been wrong about him, but his withdrawal of said resignation only seals his fate further. This is an appeal to the emotions of the Senate on a grand scale. His attempts to draw parallels between his behavior and that of Senator Rampage discards the incontrovertible fact that this sort of behavior is typical of Senator Rampage's established character. We would also point out that Senator Rampage is not at issue here, but rather the criminal Vecna himself. Drawing a false dichotomy between the two is misleading at best, a vile deception at worst.

I am restrained and calm.
Caesar if he is truly almighty and powerful knows that I do not respond well to being called "mad" or "insane"

Caesar the almighty will talk about their thoughts of where A&N says it is okay to blame me for their reads and the two theories I have please. I do not currently think Vecna is a criminal and the more you dodge the questions the more your wagon looks like the proper thing.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:35 am

Senator MathBlade is in order per parliamentary procedure demonstrated in the first scrolls. Senator MathBlade is not convinced that you are Town because this post does nothing to allay Senstor MathBlade's fears. It is quite possible that the senator in question is having a moment of paranoia but the Senator wishes to hear you talk in depth about those players and how you read them and why.

Senator MathBlade humbly petitions Caesar for their reads on those slots. Should Caesar avoid these queries it will only fuel Senator MathBlade's suspicion of Caesar. Should these be unfounded I am sure Caesar can clear this up no problem.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:02 am

In post 6342, Maxous wrote:I've lost my appetite for a Vecna Lynch and I'm certainly no longer dealing with Vecna vs ABR shit.
Can we just lynch Kyouko please?

I don't really see a Kyouko wagon being something I would be interested in with 6 scumreads right now.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:09 am

Nero Cain, Yuri, Leonshade,Elbrin, or Creature -- Did any of you take the Pyramids?

I have a hunch.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:05 am

Caesar, we humbly narrow the scope of the request to be what you tell us of the following three senators:
Senpai,A&N,Yuri

We also humbly request for your expanded treatise on these senators.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:08 am

Once Caesar has responded to that request we shall follow it up with another in a way such that we obtain the responses we would like so that way Senator MathBlade is easier to understand.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:10 pm

In post 6380, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6309, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6307, Nero Cain wrote:leon/creature/sodam/dave/????? team?
That is not supported by VCA at all Nero.
What was your final conclusion from the VCA you did?

Quite honestly I stopped half way through considering how late it was and I kept getting interrupted and no one seemed to care. I'd rather push Caesar.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:10 pm

In post 6381, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6361, Nero Cain wrote:Why react to my vote on you but not Skies and Sodom?
3rd vote- the dreaded scum spot.

Site meta shifted from that. Most scum avoid the third spot now like the plague.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:11 pm

Or they will have a scum buddy unvote just to change the order and come back on. Like the positioining is relevant in terms of front or back and consistency. Not so much the exact spot.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:15 pm

In post 6392, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6389, MathBlade wrote:Or they will have a scum buddy unvote just to change the order and come back on. Like the positioining is relevant in terms of front or back and consistency. Not so much the exact spot.
Yes. Please don't overanalyze.

Instead, look at the fact of what Nero had to say. Why did he vote draw criticism that the first 2 did not?

Because it's Nero???

Like?? I don't get the question.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:40 pm

In post 6238, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 5896, Yuri wrote:
In post 5877, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Yeah, that was my only reason. It's also not lame in context of when I placed it
in 5852 when u were asked why u SRed beeboy you literally gave that one instance and nothing else so yeah
if you had other reasons lets see em
Wtf, you literally quoted the post where I said that was my only reason for voting beeboy and asked if I had other reasons. I didn't, and that was fine at the time I placed that vote. It was Night by the time I got back to the site

They accused Yuri misrepping their slot and they couldn't do anything because it was night. The accusation makes sense they have no posts I can find then, Will have to double check.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:18 pm

Please do not delete posts in the game thread. That gives an unfair advantage to people who have seen it.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:20 pm

In post 6399, Pine wrote:
In post 6397, Pine wrote:lol

When you sober up, just edit my post and drop this in. Drop it into PV's quote too, if you're feeling skippy. For some reason, my browser is lopping off the http://www. part of the address. I'll have it fixed eventually, just an annoyance for now.
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[color=#0000FF][b]We absolutely despise [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum//viewtopic.php?p=8884022#p8884022]that question[/url], Senator Peregrine. We find it to be trite and meaningless, used most often to falsely paint a loyal Senator confident of their position as weak and uncertain. We have several times considered banning its utterance from Our Hearing.

Mighty Caesar welcomes you back to these chambers, Senator Peregrine. What say you of the criminal Vecna?[/b][/color]
...supposed to be a PM to mod.

@Nahdia Please delete these two posts. They were obvi meant to be a PM

When you're sober, ofc.

Why were you PMing that to a mod and to what chambers do you refer?

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:20 pm

Because I'm 99% sure you don't mean X and I know what X is and you ain't X.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:30 pm

Yeah...Let's just leave that stuff alone please

I'd rather have the errors then trying to figure stuff out later.

Dearest Caesar it seems your scrolls are having a bit of a malfunction. We suggest you get stewards on that.

I literally look forward to your posts and while I am trying to investigate the veracity of your town claim I find it hilarious and restores fun to the game.

I wish to nominate Caesar for FUN MVP for reinjecting fun into this game.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:39 pm

Agreed. It makes me sad that either I was right at the start of the game ish or you are scum. So Caesar the most highly regarded would you be willing to be dethroned (lynched) should you be incorrect in your analysis for conspiring to deceive that of a lower house (buddying me) in order to obtain a mislynch per article 3.14 of the Mathblade conventions ratified well before the meeting of these civilizatioins. A core principle to all those aligned with the town is that if scum are to be found buddying a person of lower house they are immediately removed from the courts. Do you agree with this principle whole heartedly good Caesar?

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:40 pm

Senator Mathblade may be a little bit intoxicated from the holy liquid brought in from the city of Bud north of here. It took a light bump on the carriage right to Senator Mathblade and now the common vernacular is Bud Light.

Senator nancy. What do you have to say over the previous two theories proposed? What do you think about them? I shall quote them in my next post for easier reference.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:42 pm

In post 6319, MathBlade wrote:I kinda wish we could have people vote for theories atm

LUV/ABR/Yuri (with maybe a slice of Vecna)

OR

Caesar/Senpai/A&N/Yuri

Like...logically I think Yuri is scum but that doesn't really tell us enough about either theory.

I would like Senator nancy to bring her opinions to the Senate floor regarding each of these theories and their practicality.
Senator Mathblade is concerned over the possibility that people are being super nice to them to get a mislynch rather that their reads being correct.
They ask for nancy's assistance in verifying these possibilities.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:53 pm

Per the doctrine of all players have a proper right to examine the scrolls for the identity of those treasonous to the Town I am allowed to assess the confidence of one called Caesar within this Senate Floor. Caesar is not above such scrutiny. You may have the declared yourself having veto power. It is a simple question. I wish to ascertain the confidence of Caesar's declarations. If he is worthy of our regard as a townread, Caesar is surely worthy of making sure he is truly aligned with the Town.

We would not want a repeat of the alternate history scrolls where Caesar was stabbed by Brutus in the middle of the town square by millions of hands none of which accountable. I would rather make sure Caesar is with us and so that way we all can form a building of town. I believe Senator nancy was proposing something. I merely wish to ascertain the building's foundations. With all due respect, your veto is ignored and has no weight with this Senator.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:55 pm

In post 6417, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6319, MathBlade wrote:I kinda wish we could have people vote for theories atm

LUV/ABR/Yuri (with maybe a slice of Vecna)

OR

Caesar/Senpai/A&N/Yuri

Like...logically I think Yuri is scum but that doesn't really tell us enough about either theory.
I would like Senator nancy to bring her opinions to the Senate floor regarding each of these theories and their practicality.
Senator Mathblade is concerned over the possibility that people are being super nice to them to get a mislynch rather that their reads being correct.
They ask for nancy's assistance in verifying these possibilities.

I believe Senator nancy is due to reply to this scroll at her nearest opportunity. We believe her time is best served in helping Senator Mathblade's reads align with hers. The more Senator nancy does this the more Senator Mathblade could see a townblock if Senator nancy could think about these theories and evaluate them. Senator Mathblade would be much appreciative.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:10 pm

Senator Mathblade was ascertaining the strength of Caesar's reads. Usually with a numerical format the question ends up ignored without significance and I get more words. I have found that using those scrolls gets a more effective response. With how Senator Caesar answered those scrolls I'm okay with an ABR wagon today. Not okay with a Vecna one however.

Senator Mathblade also finds Caesar's post about calling ourselves a weenie for our choice of drink. I have not heard of the drink north of Hadrian's Wall. If you give me the name maybe Senator Mathblade's brain will recollect such a beverage. Senator Mathblade rarely has regular "Bud" for most of the time they got used to "Bud Light" and find it goes down smooth.

For Senator nancy I'm more concerned about the potential of being too close to one's enemies. I'm concerned that while I townread them there is a nagging feeling of in the vernacular "buddying". My fallen comrade Titus did not like how the Senpai slot could be buddying me fiercely. With some of the VCA I was doing requested by Senator Vecna it was a thorough possibility I was being buddied.

Another thing that pinged me was the "blame Math" comment. I'm trying to wrap my head around how a town read says that. I'm withholding judgment for now because if Senator A&N is not aligned with the town I'm sure further communications will ensue.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:11 pm

In post 6424, MathBlade wrote:Senator Mathblade was ascertaining the strength of Caesar's reads. Usually with a numerical format the question ends up ignored without significance and I get more words. I have found that using those scrolls gets a more effective response. With how Senator Caesar answered those scrolls I'm okay with an ABR wagon today. Not okay with a Vecna one however.

Senator Mathblade also finds Caesar's post about calling ourselves a weenie for our choice of drink
hilarious
. I have not heard of the drink north of Hadrian's Wall. If you give me the name maybe Senator Mathblade's brain will recollect such a beverage. Senator Mathblade rarely has regular "Bud" for most of the time they got used to "Bud Light" and find it goes down smooth.

For Senator nancy I'm more concerned about the potential of being too close to one's enemies. I'm concerned that while I townread them there is a nagging feeling of in the vernacular "buddying". My fallen comrade Titus did not like how the Senpai slot could be buddying me fiercely. With some of the VCA I was doing requested by Senator Vecna it was a thorough possibility I was being buddied.

Another thing that pinged me was the "blame Math" comment. I'm trying to wrap my head around how a town read says that. I'm withholding judgment for now because if Senator A&N is not aligned with the town I'm sure further communications will ensue.

The senator requests a reprieve and requests an edit by post. They forgot a word due to the prior beverages.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:23 am

Senator Mathblade politely requests Senator nancy join them on Senator ABR

VOTE: ABR[/b]

Senator ABR has since disappeared into the void. Senator Mathblade reminds you the slot has disappeared and since Senator Caesar and ABR are both valid wagons to test their theories they have no problem lynching the slot of Rampage.

Senator Mathblade looks forward to Senator Caesar's scrolls on the one commonly referred to as "Yuri". Senator Mathblade hopes that in this case Caesar writes a case in their own words displaying their belief of Senator Yuri's townieness or scumminess and using scrolls to justify that but not be the only thing that forms the position.

Senator Mathblade is out for a moment today and may be harder to contact. Do not worry. They will be responding to your queries as fast as they can.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:24 am

VOTE: ABR

Please excuse the prior issue our voting scrolls had a tethering issue. This should be rectified in future posts.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:21 pm

Senator Caesar, I appeal to you that we lynch ABR today.

Assuming that the Senator's assumptions are correct in this matter we lynch a scum. And assuming they are incorrect on this matter Vecna has signed his death warrant for tomorrow handed you the scroll and go to town.

I would rather get rid of the Senator that has not made any posts recently. The ABR wagon has more people and steam behind it and I still believe it may be possible to have Vecna not be scum. The Senator Mathblade urges you to join the ABR wagon.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:27 pm

I agree.

Pretty much how this ABR wagon is going to be super telling to me. Plus we get rid of someone who seemingly doesn't want to be here.
Who blatantly is messing up mechanics
and
just in general is only posting very limited amounts. Like keeping ABR around til Lylo is not a world I want to imagine right now.

Pedit: I forgot ABR is VLA.

Either way this wagon is going to be one of the biggest boons I can think of.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:28 pm

In post 6502, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6499, MathBlade wrote:And assuming they are incorrect on this matter Vecna has signed his death warrant for tomorrow handed you the scroll and go to town.
Why does Vecna being wrong on ABR=Vecna scum?

Mainly because when I posited theories that ABR v Vecna could be TvT but he didn't want to interact with those or demonstrate his reads on any of those people. I'd expect Vecna to interact some with it more.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:33 pm

I just said I forgot he was on VLA. It's usually in VoteCounts.

I'd expect him to interact more on theories. It's not much on the Vecna scum bit I'd admit.

An ABR townflip makes me suspect Caesar/nancy/baereed more as a team and they tried to pocket me.

.....ABR said a strongman kill could have happened.
He said the Pyramids had a neighborhood

There's a couple others too but that's off the top of my head.
Like ABR is just being horrible.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:34 pm

In post 6511, Nero Cain wrote:I'd rather keep ABR than Math. lol

Then pick up vig and shoot me.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:42 pm

So clearly no pyramids for you. Nice

K. So now that narrows down pyramids to a few people.

I was joking about the vig shot. I'd rather you didn't at this point tbh.

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:48 pm

It's NAI Wifom actually.

~~Weird person who wants an ABR or Caesar lynch and won't get it until after Monday due to marathon stuffs..

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:59 pm

Not gonna happen.

I have slight suspicions on the slot but it doesn't outweigh <redacted>

Math

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:00 pm

Poor scribe. gtg.

Math

MathBlade · Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:42 pm

Senator Mathblade must apologize they are away from the scrolls for the remainder of the star cycle. They shall return on the marrow.

Senator Mathblade hopes that discussions are continued and productive.

Senator Mathblade apologizes for any inconvenience this causes the other Senators and Caesar.

MathBlade · Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:54 am

In post 6536, nancy wrote:Math would you mind talking like a normal person for the sake of my sanity?

I will do the translation think like Caesar when I have time.

Spoiler: Translation

MathBlade · Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:20 am

In post 6570, Yuri wrote:Hello this is a prod dodge
A&N is town ive decided

Seconded

MathBlade · Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:52 am

In post 6579, Maxous wrote:Leonshade might be scum yeah.
I'm coming round on that.

No.
How's that for wordy?

Spoiler: For Caesar

MathBlade · Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:54 am

In post 6562, Vecna wrote:Ceasar, Math, A&N, Nancy - All have outed similar sentiment if im not mistaken

That is the thing.

I have my feelings but at this point I am chasing myself in circles with wifom.

ABR is objectively the scummiest while doing potential buddying at the same time.
But nancy brings up a good point I feel like shit for pushing his lynch on VLA.

MathBlade · Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:56 am

Like I have hard Town reads but very few concrete scum ones. Each time I push I see something that makes me keep wanting to scumread them.

Blah.

Spoiler: For Caesar

MathBlade · Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:25 pm

In post 6584, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6581, MathBlade wrote:I have my feelings but at this point I am chasing myself in circles with wifom.
or maybe you are just scum.

Yes I am scum and I am going to be a lurky lurk sack.

Spoiler: Translation 1

Spoiler: For Caesar

MathBlade · Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:21 pm

In post 6538, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:D: NO I GOT PRODDED. Sorry Nahds I should have declared V/LA for the weekend.

I just skipped a bunch of pages. I want to make my case but now is not the time. I'm kind of exhausted. I'll work on it a bit tonight but for now...

@Math can you point me to where Titus had the impression I was buddying you? I was more paranoid of the fact that I was agreeing with you a lot early on considering what happened in Shadowrun, and your townread of me, so I'm confused as fuck on that theory lol.

Ugh mainly we talked about reads on Skype and PT :/ Sorry.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:36 am

In post 5861, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Don't lynch me without a claim. I am going to america for a convention and I'll be back Tuesday. Don't run me up til I get back.

Bye guys!

ABR should be back today. Let's see what he says.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:36 am

In post 6614, Brian Skies wrote:I have a townread on Nero.

Me too. Good.

That is one of the things I do recognize.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:03 pm

Man I'll give ABR until tomorrow morning but at that point I'd consider asking Nahdia for a replace or just wagoning the slot. Today is almost over in the States where he said he was going and it is over for the most part in Europe.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:24 pm

In post 6627, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm tired. Kinda caught up. Had access to wifi during trip and checked out the thread. Nothing much has changed. Thread is stalling because I'm town.

Mathblade, not paying attention to mechanics doesn't make me scum, just makes me not focused on the game.

And you're usually focused on the game as town. Ergo Shadowrun.

You do multiple things that annoy me as either alignment which means I have to have time to see how invested and how much you care and what you're willing to do. I'm just not seeing Shadowrun from you.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:27 pm

In post 6636, nancy wrote:Hi Aslan. Predictions on the fakeclaim?

Oooooh ooooh I have a prediction!

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:40 pm

Not gonna say...I have it in my notes. I don't want to coach likely scum here. As much as I would love to have my cake and eat it too and be right I'd need to wait til after the claim to have a proper CC otherwise he can change shit sorry.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:23 pm

In post 6645, Vecna wrote:I want to see this flip before im going to interpret anything. Whether its a town or a scum flip there is so much distancing going on with this wagon

What happened to ABR!Conf!scum?

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:24 pm

In post 6647, Vecna wrote:
In post 6633, davesaz wrote:
Not Voting (3):
PeregrineV, Elbirn, Akane and Nebby

I had to go a long way back in PeregrineV's ISO to find a read of any kind, and it's basically a "willing to lynch" list. What's up with that?

In post 6630, Akane and Nebby wrote:This is an invisible L-1 vote.
ABR should claim.
-Nebby
Any special reason you don't make it a real L-1 vote?

In post 6634, davesaz wrote:Elbirn doesn't have much in the way of reads either. Sure, moving and didn't have internet, prod dodge and all that, but what about before the move?

Also quite sure I never saw Davesaz make any of these type of posts as town in the 2 games I played with him.

Dave is improving. He's town. He explicitly didn't make posts like that in Gistou and before then. I have him as hard town.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:26 pm

In post 6650, Vecna wrote:At any rate, string up this slot already and lets move on.

People know damn well theres not going to be any credible claim since he's been threatening to submit for the kill wonder today and shoot whoever.

ABR threatens stupid shit all the time to get his way. Doesn't make it true. I literally have become immune to ABR saying that he will shoot me or what not. It is just him trying to show how strong he believes things as either alignment. I am pretty sure he doesn't have a wonder for other reasons.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:28 pm

Because I townread it but go ahead. You're probably wrong but maybe you find something there I missed.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:32 pm

In post 6657, Vecna wrote:Because I have this sense your townreads might still be partially based on a reverse-PoE because you imagine you have the entire scumteam caught.

Ease this tension please

LOL I have been resetting. I hold no illusions I have caught the team with my recent posts. If ABR is scum it is possiblle you are though. If ABR is Yuri is.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:33 pm

If ABR is town you are town probably.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:36 pm

In post 6661, Vecna wrote:(also, thanks for insinuating I wouldnt be able to catch scum-abr as town )

Oh no you would be able to. I just don't think the posts indicate that.

MathBlade · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:37 pm

In post 6660, Vecna wrote:Are you doing some comparison to the way I bussed Maria in PYP or why do you have this strong feeling that id try to bus on day1/2?

Partially the bus partially how you v ABR was too loud to be genuine. The fight feels wrong. Like how you both responded lynch this guy and I'll be town. It just feels wrong.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:41 am

LOL ABR is full of shit.

If anyone noticed Nahdia kept saying that we'd have the entire game setup known eventually.
That means the priority list.
That means the priority list is on the first post.
That means that almost the entire game would have to reject the Statue of Zeus despite multiple people wanting it.
ABR has been saying he'd be building a wonder today multiple times (should memory serve and I will get the link later)

Lynch ABR.

I confirm <redacted> as scum or town.

And we get a huge leg up.

ABR has demonstrated a give no fucks to even read the game so killing him is one of the worst things because then he'd just kill town anyway because then he'd have an "ahaha" moment (sarcastic) where he'd claim he thought someone else was more scummy than us.

Lynch ABR please.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:45 am

the only claim I would have believed from ABR is the Great Lighthouse which is a scum claim
Or

No wonder, which still gets claimed anyway

He's trying to out the Statue of Zeus.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:46 am

still gets lynched* words*

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:54 am

In post 6691, davesaz wrote:I don't think that changes anything. Scum would gladly pick that to avoid getting vigged, plus they have the bonus of being able to be guaranteed a vig shot gets redirected to someone not on their team.

He is likely just shitting but that is a good point.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:00 am

In post 6714, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6706, MathBlade wrote:LOL ABR is full of shit.

If anyone noticed Nahdia kept saying that we'd have the entire game setup known eventually. Source
That means the priority list.
That means the priority list is on the first post.
That means that almost the entire game would have to reject the Statue of Zeus despite multiple people wanting it.
ABR has been saying he'd be building a wonder today multiple times (should memory serve and I will get the link later).
He said he doesn't vig townreads in response to suggestion of shooting us. He said we are stuck together when if he believes we are that bad the best use is a cop flip from us.

Lynch ABR.

I confirm <redacted> as scum or town.

And we get a huge leg up.

ABR has demonstrated a give no fucks to even read the game so killing him is one of the worst things because then he'd just kill town anyway because then he'd have an "ahaha" moment (sarcastic) where he'd claim he thought someone else was more scummy than us.

Lynch ABR please.
Math- do you know all of this is wrong, or do you think some of it is right?

I think all of it is right. Added sources and comments. I am tired.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:01 am

Like I am pretty damn certain ABR isn't Statue of Zeus and if he is then he fucked up by lying all over the thread again. At this point I am done with compulsive liars claiming to be town. Truthtell or GTFO of this game.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:06 am

Shit...Haven't finished last will yet. Fuck.

If ABR flips scum lynch Yuri or if my cop check flips scum lynch it then lynch Yuri.

If ABR flips town then pressure along the buddy list I mentioned before.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:08 am

In post 6719, Nero Cain wrote:TBF, Math picked a wonder that requires their death so..........I mean sure the plan was to have the pyramids claim but they aren't so I guess scum got them.

Almost certain of this and I have it narrowed down to a few people.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:12 am

In post 6725, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6715, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6714, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6706, MathBlade wrote:LOL ABR is full of shit.

If anyone noticed Nahdia kept saying that we'd have the entire game setup known eventually. Source
That means the priority list.
That means the priority list is on the first post.
That means that almost the entire game would have to reject the Statue of Zeus despite multiple people wanting it.
ABR has been saying he'd be building a wonder today multiple times (should memory serve and I will get the link later).
He said he doesn't vig townreads in response to suggestion of shooting us. He said we are stuck together when if he believes we are that bad the best use is a cop flip from us.

Lynch ABR.

I confirm <redacted> as scum or town.

And we get a huge leg up.

ABR has demonstrated a give no fucks to even read the game so killing him is one of the worst things because then he'd just kill town anyway because then he'd have an "ahaha" moment (sarcastic) where he'd claim he thought someone else was more scummy than us.

Lynch ABR please.
Math- do you know all of this is wrong, or do you think some of it is right?
I think all of it is right. Added sources and comments. I am tired.
You think the
starting
priority list is
The player list on the first post
.
You think this because
Nahdia post telling us more of the setup would become clear as time evolves. Priority list is a part of the setup.
.
You think multiple people tried to build Zeus because
People said they would in thread. Especially those with weird speech patterns. Outing who is antitown
.
If ABR did build the Zeus, he would not act like he was trying to build anything today because
ABR would try to be NK'd and not lynched. He would have played differently
.
You can only confirm if nightkilled. You will be nightkilled because
hopefully my scumreads are right or I am vigged...This last part is a hope
.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:15 am

If ABR had any intention of building Zeus he dpesn't go out of his way to be that loud and save Yuri and create discord. That is a good way to not be NK'd.

ABR hammered I think.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:20 am

In post 6733, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 6730, MathBlade wrote:If ABR had any intention of building Zeus he dpesn't go out of his way to be that loud and save Yuri and create discord. That is a good way to not be NK'd.
I built Zeus at the end of Day 1, before night.

Day one was a big rush by you to save Yuri.

You don't do that for a lurky player who is not a PR.

It makes you unkillable if right or wrong because of Discord.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:20 am

In post 6736, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'll use it on whoever you want

Yuri

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:21 am

Because you should be lynched ABR for your atrocious claim to try to out the statue of zeus. Terribad.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:22 am

In post 6737, Creature wrote:VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

Put your vote back.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:31 am

In post 6747, Nero Cain wrote:I just really hate Math's play. Who picks a Wonder that requires you die and then not want to die? lol

That is my point. I am saying ABR is a liar for that reason and the premise of him picking a wonder that requires you to die is false.

Goddamn it...Seriously PV.

Everything has to be available AT THE START.

Another priority list at the start of the game doesn't make sense.

Goddamn it...Please...not this again........*sigh*

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:34 am

SSBM wagon is stupid. *facepalm*

ABR should be lynched today.

I have good reason for thinking the prioirity list is the way it was but I literaally cannot say why.

God fucking damn it.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:37 am

In post 6287, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 6231, Akane and Nebby wrote:Dave because he's a scumread of mine.
Also
VOTE: Vecna
-Nebby
Wait you hopped from ABR to me and then quickly hopped off but went to Vecna instead of back to ABR. Why? Like I know you're whimsical with your vote but why not back to ABR, why to Vecna?

Questions like this means he is analyzing the votes people say and if they match up with their words. Scum don't do that.

Fml.

But he isn't Zeus.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:04 am

Sure Nancy...And eventually Caesar and Nancy and others will find the stash of intoxicating logic and enjoying the imbibement. It is okay. I will convert Caesar into an apothecary for that "dank herb"

~~Math

Spoiler:

Me too water or Sprite for me.

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:10 am

You'll find it one block away from my dead body whenever I die. Take a left on "Math needs better communication skills" and then you will find a roundabout and then follow that 14 blocks away and a big sign will hang "dank herb" for anyone who wants it. And there will be enough for every player.

Back to other news ssbm is the same as beeboy again *sigh*

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:21 pm

+2 To LeonShade for the last two posts.

Except the priority list is the first post of players because....reasons? *hides*

MathBlade · Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:51 pm

Please don't shit post. :/

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:14 am

I am just mindfucked.
PV getting Pyramids means PV probably scum but why would scum shoot themselves?

Like my priority order list was wrong but it had to be right like wtf.

Yeah...:/

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:17 am

Like I see the power of yay if we get scum down to one person but yeah :/ I just reread and don't see ssbm as scummy and don't see what everyone else does but at this point I am AFK most of the day so...

In traditional parliamentary fashion Senstor MathBlade is abstaining.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:19 am

Like myself and Titus agreed PV was a person we agreed was Town.

PV why did you take Pyramids even though the plan was for Drixx to take it?

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:20 am

In post 6977, Creature wrote:If you plan to wagon A&N, I won't oppose it.

I will because Star Wars.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:58 am

Isn't yay like really good? Then scum have to like not use their wonder if they kill?

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:00 am

Sigh AFK most of today

Oh good point.

VOTE: Nay

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:19 pm

Prod Dodge. Spent all day lifting boxes and such. No desire to read all of this right now.

Someone @Math me if I missed something.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:18 pm

In post 7156, Nero Cain wrote:Math explains how she knows that the play list=priority list or eats rope.

If A+N ever flips scum that ABR wagon is probs chock full of scum. I have a hard time believing that a town Ali thinks that scum started a counter wagon to a town ABR.

Look. I knew who had <redacted> because reasons.
I was also making a list of who claimed NOT to have the Pyramids.
They were all underneath on the playerlist.

However PV dying and being Pyramids means my theory was full of shit.
So I was wrong.

I have RL. I am pretty sure <redacted> knows what I know that they know.

*sigh*

Now when I am done with RL early Monday I will catch up on the thread. Til then I will do snippets like this one.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:19 pm

Underneath Drixx*

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:21 pm

In post 7154, Alisae wrote:
In post 6513, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6511, Nero Cain wrote:I'd rather keep ABR than Math. lol
Then pick up vig and shoot me.

This was back when I thought I had a clue on shit. My sister outed Stonehenge and I have been trying to pick up the pieces ever since. However if I get run up and mislynched while AFK I understand that it has just been a brutal two weeks IRL.

MathBlade · Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:23 pm

In post 7164, Nero Cain wrote:stop shitposting Math.

That is not shitposting.
Shitposting is playing hangman or doing something not Mafia related.

Clearly this is me owning up to my failures and apologizing.

If you think admitting one's failures is shitposting while trying to catch up on a phone on a thread of this magnitude then you need to read a Mafia dictionary.