Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Spiffeh]

Piss off

Then stop saying things that are wrong

[Spiffeh]

Titus that wasn't in reference to anything about beeboy

[Spiffeh]

Yes Frog I said earlier that we should use the time we have this Day but the same 8-10 people are posting and it only serves to make it harder for the people not as engaged in the game to catch up.

I am decently confident that beeboy will be flipping scum so this is probably gonna be my final vote. You can pressure Caesar or w/e but I don't know how much it will accomplish.

[Spiffeh]

I know. Right now, you are dividing the town and a divided town loses games. Stop letting ABR kiss your ass, work with Uzi, even if you TR Yuri, help. Teamwork. I am trying here.

I really don't know how this is so hard to grasp.

Nothing I am doing is opposing team work. Beeboy is a viable wagon. Beeboy is my largest scum read. Beeboy is my vote. I explained why I town read Yuri's recent posts.

Uzi's the one with the idiotic scum read on me. What do you mean work with him? I cannot be more obvtown than I'm being now and anyone questioning that is delusional. He seems set in his ways despite HIS town reads town-reading me. Why don't you get on HIM about team work?

[Spiffeh]

Fro99er and A&N agreed with me on beeboy so that is just completely wrong

[Spiffeh]

cute fake hammer but i want real blood alisae. also i have more material

There's no way scum doesn't take the opportunity to fake a town reaction to the fake hammer at this point. Especially since scum!Yuri has nothing to lose from trying it.

[Spiffeh]

Anyone who sr's Notice after what there posting needs a huge reality check cause that slot is obv af town also I don't think people really care for that townblock if people are trying to shade a townblock out of frears that's lol
~Maria

Agreed

NMS's recent posts are extremely town

[Spiffeh]

ABR is town

@Frogger and Titus

I really don't know what your issue is here. I think you're both town. You can wagon Caesar if you want, I've given you my opinion on that already. I want to keep the beeboy wagon viable. I've explained why I think it would be better for the day to end now but you guys can do what you feel is right. It's not like I'm opposing you at every turn, I'd even argue we've been on the same page for most of the game.

So I really don't know where you're coming from when you say I'm not working with you. I understand that you both think town synergy is important but if I think you're on the completely wrong track (as I do now with Yuri) then yes I will directly oppose you and explain why I think you're wrong.

[Spiffeh]

ABR come back to beeboy

[Spiffeh]

Titus' definition of dividing town is not doing what Titus wants

Knock it off with that bs please

[Spiffeh]

Fro99er member when we won a large theme, lynched Titus, and won best town performance? Round 2 baby

lmao

[Spiffeh]

Vecna's opinions are getting worse and worse

[Spiffeh]

Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby

This literally means nothing

Your post quality has significantly retrogressed as the day has went on.

[Spiffeh]

In all seriousness, ABR shows up and now we're running around with our heads chopped off?
Town was super fucking cohesive, we had Yuri at L-1, everything is great, until he shows up.
-Nebby

STOP WITH THIS BULLSHIT

[Spiffeh]

ABR is his normal town self

He's abrasive af and gets on people's nerves

People are trying to take advantage of that by pushing a bullshit lynch on him

He's town, knock it off

[Spiffeh]

The reason the Yuri wagon disintegrated is because people thought his recent posts were town

Trying to blame this on ABR is disingenuous as fuck

[Spiffeh]

We can lynch you instead.

Lol @ you acting like you have any fucking authority

[Spiffeh]

Go ahead and vote me and see how many people join you

[Spiffeh]

Sondam what are your thoughts on beeboy did I miss that somewhere?

This is my Goatmeal pls lynch him

[Spiffeh]

You hit caps lock instead of "A" jsyk

[Spiffeh]

If beeboy flips town I'll apologize and be less douchey

probably

maybe

[Spiffeh]

If beeboy flips town I'll apologize and be less douchey

probably

maybe

You really want me to replace out, don't you

No that's not at all what I meant by that

[Spiffeh]

Cause Spiffeh is being too stubborn this game, it feels faked even for him.
ABR doesn't play this shit ever.
Yuri and A&N I already explained.

Yeah we're lynching this

Literally lol @ me being too stubborn. You've seen me as town. The fact that you characterize "too stubborn" as a scumtell with me proves your read isn't genuine and you're just trying to discredit my read on you.

ABR ALWAYS plays this shit. This looks exactly like his town game from my experience. Can you explain what's different?

[Spiffeh]

Fro99er why

ABR is so transparently town

[Spiffeh]

ABR wouldn't rock the boat this much as scum. The way he reached out to you as extremely town.

beeboy definitely needs to die, especially over him.

[Spiffeh]

ABR doesn't play this shit ever.

beeboy ONCE AGAIN postures to the most viable counterwagon out of nowhere

JUST LIKE HE DID WITH YURI

HOW ARE PEOPLE NOT SEEING THIS

[Spiffeh]

Gameplay like Uzi's are the reason we're going to mislynch today.

[Spiffeh]

I just viewed your ISO from MAFIACEPTION and flower viewing festival

Not stubborn and you didn't tunnel like this

It's been over a year for you.

Look at my more recent games.

Notably Musical Mafia (WHICH BEEBOY WAS PRESENT FOR) towards the end of Day 1 where I push hard as fuck to lynch Ranger.

I have several more examples if you want links.

Literally ask anyone that's played with me within the last six months if "too stubborn" is a valid reason to scum read me.

[Spiffeh]

Ok Fro99er this is me willing to hear you out

What has ABR done that is scummy beyond being his normal, rub people the wrong way self?

[Spiffeh]

You're right

Everything else he's done today makes him scum

[Spiffeh]

Probably like an eighth of my posts have been explaining why beeboy is scum, just ISO me.

[Spiffeh]

If ABR flips town everyone on that wagon loses all credibility for the rest of the game

[Spiffeh]

Not that many of them had much of it to begin with

[Spiffeh]

Tell me why that makes him scum.

[Spiffeh]

Not enough

[Spiffeh]

Frog you still haven't explained why ABR is scummier than beeboy

You keep saying I'm right about him but you keep going after others

[Spiffeh]

Stop talking to each other

[Spiffeh]

Hey that sounds a lot about what I've done this game!

And beeboy was there for it and town read the fuck out of me that whole game!

[Spiffeh]

Yeah I know I'm trying to show everyone else how full of shit beeboy is

But I'm sure it will be ignored

[Spiffeh]

Voting ABR because of his toxicity is a weak excuse to hop on the counterwagon to scum.

Ngl I've skipped all of Caesar's posts because I don't have the patience to decipher all of it but if beeboy flips scum or ABR flips town (like I'm expecting them to) they will be in the hot seat tomorrow.

[Spiffeh]

I think it's even more gross considering their stance on vecna prior to the vote.

This is a good point.

[Spiffeh]

I am not sold on Nero being town

Titus and ABR won't ever cooperate.

[Spiffeh]

If beeboy flips town I'll reevaluate obviously

[Spiffeh]

Albert B. Rampage (7): ..., Leonshade, beeboy, Caesar Wills It

Vom

[Spiffeh]

I am town reading Nero overall but I'm just not sold.

I really don't have any confident scum reads other than beeboy which is why I don't really want to compromise.

If he flips town I'll try to yield more to my town reads. But I really want him today.

[Spiffeh]

Plus Max, Sondam, Notice,

I'm townreading Sondam and Notice atm

[Spiffeh]

beeboy is at L-2 pls vote for him and end the day

[Spiffeh]

========[ ]

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: beeboy

L-1.

What changed your mind?

[Spiffeh]

Mathblade prove us wrong and hammer!

[Spiffeh]

Thanks guys

Sorry if I'm wrong but I don't think I will be!

[Spiffeh]

What is the actual VC

[Spiffeh]

Ok Yuri now vote beeboy

[Spiffeh]

i do wonder what the actual count is rn tho

Pedit spiff i will probs hammer but u gotta admit accidental premature lynches suck

Not when they're on scum

[Spiffeh]

DO IT TITUS

[Spiffeh]

I never made a town bloc

[Spiffeh]

Sorry fam

I really hope Yuri and ABR are actually town so I didn't drive the wagon away from scum

[Spiffeh]

Fro99er not being protected was p. dumb but w/e

[Spiffeh]

As long as Cultural isn't picked I'm good.

[Spiffeh]

I really don't have strong scum reads anymore so I think the beginning of today should be focussed on getting something out of lurker slots.

Beyond that I might just sheep my town reads unless I find something that really bothers me

[Spiffeh]

Mathblade you can't actually still think I'm scum lmao

[Spiffeh]

I don't know I don't know I don't know

I plan to reevaluate, I probably should have taken the time overnight

VOTE: Natural

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh didnt care about lynching beeboy at all. I wanted to trade him my vote for asnwers to questions - he ignored at least 6 of them.

Yeah the fact that I allowed literally no other lynch go through and wouldn't compromise on anyone really indicates that I "didn't care about lynching beeboy at all".

Wtf does that even mean?

Also I missed your questions, noticed you complaining about it, and didn't care enough to go find them and answer them. If you'd like to quote them now go ahead.

[Spiffeh]

Also scum reading me is still unacceptable no matter what any of you say

Not completely buying that I'm town is one thing, outright scum reading me is just stupid and makes you bad.

Just because my main push flips town doesn't make me scum. Unfortunately it's been happening to me often, recently.

[Spiffeh]

It's really hard to distinguish between "bad" and "scum" this game

There are several players that could fit into either category

[Spiffeh]

Fro99er not being protected was p. dumb but w/e

Do you think that whoever built hanging gardens is scum?

Not because Fro99er wasn't protected, no.

They could be but it would be completely independent of that.

Do you?

[Spiffeh]

@Leon who are you scum reading atm?

[Spiffeh]

Yuri slipping the noose is a joke. Looked at the votes. Pretty much screams Spiffeh scums. Just needing Titus to see it.

If Mathblade continues to play the game as if she's already guessed the scum team I'm going to start ignoring their posts.

[Spiffeh]

@Leon who are you scum reading atm?

NoticeMeSenpai. There could also be scum in ABR/Yuri, but I don't feel confident about either.

Elaborate on all of these.

[Spiffeh]

I did NOT succesfully build the Pyramids. Someone else snatched it. I'll just wait for an explanation.

You did literally nothing yesterday. This shouldn't be a surprise to you.

Whoever built Pyramids should not claim it.

[Spiffeh]

If Mathblade continues to play the game as if they've already guessed the scum team I'm going to start ignoring their posts.

Fixed

[Spiffeh]

Why should I townread you after barely touching Yuri, hopping onto Beeboy as soon as he posted and then not mentioning Yuri today?

I'm not telling you to town read me for these things, I'm telling you to stop playing the game assuming you've guessed the scum team and analyzing behavior from that perspective. I thought you were reasonable enough to realize why this is stupid but I guess you aren't.

I still stand by the fact that Yuri's reaction when it looked inevitable that they would be lynched was extremely town.

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh didnt care about lynching beeboy at all. I wanted to trade him my vote for asnwers to questions - he ignored at least 6 of them.

Yeah the fact that I allowed literally no other lynch go through and wouldn't compromise on anyone really indicates that I "didn't care about lynching beeboy at all".

Wtf does that even mean?

Also I missed your questions, noticed you complaining about it, and didn't care enough to go find them and answer them. If you'd like to quote them now go ahead.

Vecna please address this

[Spiffeh]

I initially was town reading ABR pretty hard because he reminded me of Mafiaception, but I am a little turned off by how he started buddying me as soon as I started defending him.

Overall I still think he's town though.

[Spiffeh]

Okay, if someone turns out to be treestump, we know it's scum and we just ignore them.

Stop saying wrong and bad things

[Spiffeh]

It meant that you couldve bought my vote rather easily, and you did not.

This still doesn't make sense to me. What could I have done that I wasn't doing? Why does the fact that I didn't "buy" your vote make you scum read me?

[Spiffeh]

Disregarding the fact I spent a few good hours doing VCA knowing Beeboy and I are Town.

This makes you even less credible

[Spiffeh]

@Leon

@Leon who are you scum reading atm?

NoticeMeSenpai. There could also be scum in ABR/Yuri, but I don't feel confident about either.

Elaborate on all of these.

[Spiffeh]

I'm pretty sure if someone drafted doctor, frogger was the obvious choice. So strongman makes sense. There's no "post flavor when you're scum" playbook. I just like to post flavor. It's not like I'm confirmed scum when I write flavor. This is bad meta that you then projected on a random person. But his lack of content does disturb me, especially since Aeronaut is supposedly one of the heads.

Didn't you indicate earlier that you understood why Fro99er wasn't protected?

What changed?

[Spiffeh]

I hate many of the proposed lynch options so far.

Vecna is the only one I'd consider that has been mentioned so far.

Without rereading their ISO's to clarify my position (which I hope to do later) right now I'm looking at davesaz, Leon, Caesar for scum

[Spiffeh]

Still don't get why people are town reading Maxous

[Spiffeh]

Anytime ive been pressuring Jaereed and ABR you've been on my case, either for my reads getting worse and worse, and now you'd consider me a possible lynch because ive criticized your play?

No

[Spiffeh]

Vecna you're basically a question mark for me rn

You're definitely not my first choice

[Spiffeh]

Vecna you're basically a question mark for me rn

You're definitely not my first choice

Let's get Nebby.

I don't think they are scum.

[Spiffeh]

@Vecna the no was at me considering you as a lynch because you're criticizing me

Because that was stupid

[Spiffeh]

Bee was obvious town.

You are completely useless

[Spiffeh]

Bee was obvious town.

If Bee was obvious Town who were the scum that pivoted the wagon away from Yuri and who were the scum off the Beeboy wagon?

~~Math

ABR and Spiffey derailed.

Leon/Yuri, one of these two hopped on to secure the lynch.

"ABR and Spiffy derailed" means jack shit when Yuri isn't flipped. This only makes sense as a justification if Yuri ever flips scum.

You're also basically saying "the people most responsible for the beeboy lynch are scum" which is incredibly lazy.

What about my "flip" off Yuri is scummy to you? Do you disagree with my reasons for doing so? If so, why?

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh -- Scum. Protected Yuri HARD.

Mathblade continues to make a case for why they are completely clueless

Still using pre-flip associatives to justify scum reads

[Spiffeh]

@Spiffy: You know why I disagreed, I explained why I thought Bee was town. Your case on him was shit and you knew it, you just took advantage of the cohesion slowly being broken into pieces as the day was winding down.

I asked why you disagree with my reasons for town reading Yuri.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Leonshade

[Spiffeh]

Mathblade and Uzi have revoked their rights to hold any position of credibility or power in this game

No one is to value their opinions

tia

[Spiffeh]

I think all of {DEO, ABR, PeregrineV, Creature, Sondam}

I have lesser town reads on {A&N, Nero Cain, Yuri, Drixx, Uzi, Vecna, Elbirn}

Which leaves me {NoticeMeSenpai, davesaz, ssbm_Kyouko, Leonshade, Maxous, Caesar}

[Spiffeh]

The scumbags I've caught: Vecnar, LUV, A+N.

I have town leans on all of them

Can you explain why you're scum reading them?

[Spiffeh]

I think all of {DEO, ABR, PeregrineV, Creature, Sondam} are town

EBWOP

[Spiffeh]

Mathblade I'm ignoring all of your posts from now in if that wasn't clear

Same with Uzi

I'm not dealing with your ridiculous suspicions of me and reading your posts about me make angry enough to want to insult both of you instead of actually scumhunt which is toxic to the gamestate and in the grand scheme of things makes me useless

So don't expect that question to get answered

[Spiffeh]

LUV, you can catch him slipping Day 1.

That wasn't a slip though

Like do you think scum is likely to claim something that is easily disproven by the set up. Why would they take that risk?

[Spiffeh]

Vecnar, because his thoughts made NO SENSE when he moved from Yuri to Beeboy to me and back to Beeboy. The whole thing reeks of scum.

Also idk, I get the impression that Vecna believes all of the stuff he does makes sense.

A&N looks like noob town to me. I have noticed a lot of buddying the universal town reads and players of influence (DEO, Fro99er, me earlier on) but I don't necessarily think that's scummy?

[Spiffeh]

I will comply with players I feel are town and being reasonable to work with.

Right now that aren't many. I'm starting with ABR and Maria and hopefully that group grows.

[Spiffeh]

Titus, they are on my sorting list.

Why do you think Leon is town?

I am going to go back and make sure, but I remember their jump to beeboy making the least sense to me initially.

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh iso gives me a town vibe but I'm not very good at reading him so it's really weak.

This also really bothers me from davesaz.

Only because I can't think of any examples off the top of my head where he hasn't been good at reading from me. At the time, there were also some people speaking out against me, so this kinda looked like a way to appease both me and the people pressuring me, as well as give him a reason to vote for me later on.

This could easily be alleviated if davesaz could cite some games that he is visibly bad at reading me.

[Spiffeh]

@ABR @Titus why are you guys town reading Maxous?

I still don't see a good reason.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Caesar

I don't really buy your reasoning for town reading Maxous. If anything I'm surprised he has anywhere CLOSE to 75 posts because he's made literally no impression on the game. I have played with him once and don't remember him being this much of a non entity. Admittedly I have proven this game that the way I use meta is shit and one game so long ago means literally nothing.

I don't think any of the posts you quoted are indicative of town. The first two in particular are extremely easy for scum to say. The vote on me I guess is the only post that makes me think he's not playing scared, but his vote on me was pretty short-lived and he hasn't mentioned me since despite several people calling me out. So of the things you've provided I still don't see how you could be town reading him so confidently.

@Maxous what is your read of me currently?

[Spiffeh]

While the Senator known as Creature is most tiresome and wrong-headed in many of his proposed initiatives, we find him to be a most loyal citizen. Our experience with this worthy opponent suggests that his conduct in this conclave, in contrast to other such congregations, has the best interests of the Empire at heart. Nevertheless, we find some of his proposals most disagreeable. In particular, we object to the aspersions he has cast upon the proposed construction of the Pyramids outside Imperial Rome, a project We Your Emperors are considering. We find that this Monument to the Gods will be most useful in perpetuating our lineage and our rule beyond the mortal sphere. Further, we would build this wonder to deny it to those other nations who would use it for ill. Further consultation is required before a decision is made regarding Rome's priorities - a grand series of Hanging Gardens also appeals to Our sophisticated aesthetic senses, and a Statue to Jupiter would allow our wisdom to echo through the ages more effectively. We implore Senator Creature not to close his mind to the beneficial effects of these grand projects out of fear for imagined dangers. Such cowardice is unworthy a Roman Senator.

This is bad.

"Creature is town but here are the long-winded, wordy reasons why he is wrong about these roles"

I see no point in saying this unless you want to give the impression that you're contributing more than you are. It's not like anyone was actively agreeing with what Creature was saying so what's the point in devoting all these words to it?

[Spiffeh]

The voice in the back of my head keeps telling me to be sketched out that I'm town reading everyone with the highest post counts

All my scum reads are among the lurkers and it worries me

[Spiffeh]

If you can call them "scum reads"

It's more a PoE pool

[Spiffeh]

I also find it odd that Caesar wouldn't stop posting in that style if they were town.

They know it makes them hard to read and several players have asked them to post normally yet they refuse to stop.

Town should have nothing to hide and shouldn't want to be ignored because of their posting style yet Caesar does it anyway?

They even realize they're being ignored here:

It has become apparent that our decree regarding the heathen Vecna has gone unheeded. This is unacceptable. We anticipated that the slower of you might not comprehend the sophistication of Our Pronouncement, but this outright defiance will not be borne. We direct you, our good Senators, to the divisiveness of the criminal Vecna's words, and his attempts to sway this righteous assembly to his malign will. We find these actions most heinous, as well as the manner in which he attacks those who oppose him in general, while attempting to procure the good will of those who suspect him specifically. We have determined that this self-centered attitude does not work to the prosperity of the cities of Rome. Your Emperor again commands all loyal Senators to consider the foul vermin Vecna in this new light, and castigate him with your vote of condemnation.

So why not cut the act to make sure people take you seriously?

[Spiffeh]

Nero Cain I agree with you that A&N's bit about ABR causing everyone strife and ruining everything or whatever, but why do you think that comes from scum instead of just bad town?

[Spiffeh]

Nebby what you're saying makes no sense and the concerns he's bringing up are valid.

How can you think he's both wrong/bad/confbiased and scum?

[Spiffeh]

Nero Cain, ABR, Yuri
-Nebby

So you think everyone on you is scum. You don't see a problem with that?

[Spiffeh]

He's in a hydra with 18 posts total and several people are voting it.

[Spiffeh]

I was never planning to vote A&N

[Spiffeh]

Thank you for demonstrating how useless VCA is

[Spiffeh]

Thank you for demonstrating how useless VCA is

Sorry, I don't even endorse a VCA this early but I'm letting Math do their thing.

~Titus

It's cool it's showing everyone else how full of shit they are and terminating any iota of credibility they had remaining.

[Spiffeh]

Wow I'm so glad one of our most useful roles just lost all utility it would have had if it remained secret

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Caesar

DEO, you could have just... not claimed Stonehenge.

Why are you voting for Caesar?

[Spiffeh]

I could be a nice guy and point Spiffeh to a place where I had trouble reading him. I am indeed being honest here that I have no confidence in that read at this point. But it's late...

Can you do this now please?

[Spiffeh]

DEO honestly just needs to stop posting.

Nothing either head is doing is helpful right now. Titus keeps arguing with ABR and is now proposing a ridiculous plan, Mathblade has a set scum team in their mind and constructs a narrative based on those assumptions when it should be the other way around.

Stop acknowledging them, they're not "leading" town, they don't decide anything.

[Spiffeh]

ABR where are you at with Caesar?

I see your scum reads and disagree on pretty much every single one.

[Spiffeh]

Honestly I'm fine with the plan.
DEO targets ABR with the Stonehenge, someone vigs DEO and that'll honestly solve a lot of problems going on here.

Fuck this shit

[Spiffeh]

Pyramids claim now.

Maxous /Spiffeh are you Pyramids?

PYRAMIDS SHOULDN'T CLAIM AT ALL

HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh, I think you owe me your vote as well today

I don't owe you anything

[Spiffeh]

Everyone's so fucking entitled that the way they want things done is the right way

Let roles do whatever the fuck they want. Claiming them loses all of their utility and gives scum more information than they need where town gain NOTHING from this information

I can't fucking deal with the idiocy anymore

[Spiffeh]

The DEO has proven to be fucking volatile and useless in the way they're currently playing the game

People need to stop heeding to their every fucking whim

[Spiffeh]

While normally I would agree, the game was specifically told - do.not.take.the.tree.stump.

Literally only Titus and Drixx said this. Two people that shouldn't be able to fucking speak for the whole town.

I spoke at multiple times against this plan, as did several others

So this is completely wrong

[Spiffeh]

DEO honestly just needs to stop posting.

Nothing either head is doing is helpful right now. Titus keeps arguing with ABR and is now proposing a ridiculous plan, Mathblade has a set scum team in their mind and constructs a narrative based on those assumptions when it should be the other way around.

Stop acknowledging them, they're not "leading" town, they don't decide anything.

Gonna keep quoting this until people start ignoring them.

DEO talks a big game about town unity yet they fucking expect a ridiculous plan that they didn't run by anyone to go through and for no one to question it.

They're so full of shit.

JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LARGEST POST COUNT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE ANY AUTHORITY

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Caesar

DEO, you could have just... not claimed Stonehenge.

Why are you voting for Caesar?

Leon answer this.

[Spiffeh]

Anyone furthering DEO's ridiculous agenda without question is probably scum

Like Maxous

[Spiffeh]

Maxous should know better, at least.

It makes more sense to me for newer players to think that DEO's leadership position is justified because of Titus' "legacy" and post count or w/e

But people like Maxous have no excuse for not challenging/ignoring their bullshit

[Spiffeh]

Spif who does have authority to you?
Also PV where you at with reads?
-Nebby

Not one singular player

Grouping up players that town read each other and deciding together is fine

Being a controlling overlord and saying things like "this is what town wants so this is the lynch for today" is not ok.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Leonshade

[Spiffeh]

I am just saying Pyramids claims today and gets scumchecked by us if we ever die. If they don't they are scum.

The entire purpose of that slot is to die.

AND I'M SAYING THIS IS FUCKING STUPID AND SHOULDN'T HAPPEN FOR REASONS I'VE STATED MULTIPLE TIMES

YET YOU ACT LIKE THIS IS SOME COMMON SENSE THING

[Spiffeh]

I am not doing that Spiffeh Titus is.

All I am doing is stating my opinion and it seems logical.

Explain how Pyramids not claiming is protown?

Yeah I was referring to Titus here, but you guys are a package deal and you're not helping her cause.

Reasons why claiming at all is stupid:

The tree stump should claim so they can be investigated o3o

This is a huge fucking waste of potential town resources.

A big draw of treestump is that scum basically waste a kill on them. So outing the treestump makes it pretty useless in that regard.

Any cop-like ability should cop whoever they want to. I am really not concerned with having the treestump be confirmed town, their play will make that clear eventually.

Treestump should play to draw a nightkill and cop should play to find scum.

I stated this multiple times in multiple ways

[Spiffeh]

Much rather ABR. But if I have to do the others Elbrin and Kyuoko although the latter feels like policy.

Creature are you the pyramids?
Leonshade?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Leonshade

answer my questions.

Your question was pure fluff and will receive no worthwhile answer from me so I don't see why you asked it.

Your position on Caesar is an easy one to have. I am sketched out that when I asked you who your scum reads were you listed Notice, ABR, and Yuri, yet you've pushed none of them today. ABR is even a viable lynch at this point and you're no where to be found. Notice is being largely overlooked but you're doing nothing about it.

So why is your vote on Caesar more useful for pressure when they're completely absent than pressuring people you are scum reading?

[Spiffeh]

If DEO continues to fish for the Pyramids and people keep answering I'm lurking for the rest of the game

Let DEO run us into the fucking ground, I don't care anymore

[Spiffeh]

Guess what...

Stonehenge doesn't kill the treestump!!

It only cops them!!

So scum have to waste a kill on the IC treestump or we get a scum lynch.

~~Math

If scum know who treestump is they KNOW to kill elsewhere and hit something/someone more valuable.

THE WHOLE POINT OF TREESTUMP IS TO DRAW A SCUM KILL AND MAKE IT USELESS

YOU DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING READ WHAT I SAID

[Spiffeh]

ABR /PV Are you Pyramids?

~~Math

Never fucking join a game with me again

[Spiffeh]

PV you Pyramids?

PV I could hug you. You has my reads and I am not entirely mad.

~~Math

No, i'm the doctor and I protected Spiffeh, becasue he bleeds green.

What are your thoughts on the content I posted in 5381?

PEREGRINE WHAT THE FUCK

WHY WOULD YOU FUCKING CLAIM

[Spiffeh]

@mod please replace me

I really hate to do this to you but I cannot handle some of the people in this game