Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Fro99er]

Keep in mind you don't put Vecna as a townread but then tell Vecna to drop something as if he is a townread.

~~Math

What?

You are really going to have to re-evaluate your play after this game

[Fro99er]

Titus-

I can't even take math seriously if they think myself, spiff, Vecna, AND uzi have all bussed Yuri, and the five of us are their only scum reads.

It literally makes no fucking sense

[Fro99er]

The worst part about math is even if Yuri flips scum Math is still going to scum read all four of us because they think it's a quadruple bus.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD FOUR SCUM BUS ONE OTHER SCUM?

IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. STOP PLAYING LIKE TRASH

[Fro99er]

Scum isn't going to NK someone playing as trash as this

[Fro99er]

What is interesting is Frogger's switch to sciences which I call out in my PT.

OH GOD FROGGER SWITCHED!

Tell me exactly what the hell is wrong with switching a vote. FOR A FUCKING RESOLUTION

[Fro99er]

Frogger now departs his buddies wagon and votes beeboy because it has steam. This is a clear attempt to save Yuri.

You clearly haven't even been paying attention all day.

I'm the one driving the Yuri wagon.

Did you even see how pissed off I got that Spiff wouldn't acknowledge my Yuri case?

[Fro99er]

Im wondering if Math's play is a stratagem for survival

They are either town playing good cop bad cop with their heads, or they are scum, or they are town and Math is the worst ever non-newbie I've ever played with

[Fro99er]

How do you feel a Yuri scumflip reflects on Spiff?

(@frog)

not all that good considering how he resisted it for so long.

Although he did make a couple of good points that I didn't make in regards to yuri when he finally did respond. So not as bad as it would have been.

[Fro99er]

Im wondering if Math's play is a stratagem for survival

They are either town playing good cop bad cop with their heads, or they are scum, or they are town and Math is the worst ever non-newbie I've ever played with

It does create for a refreshing/interesting dynamic either way.

It's not refreshing whatsoever. It's frustrating as hell

[Fro99er]

Elbirn we're not doing notice today

[Fro99er]

Titus you call it shading but in my mind my actions are making statements/accusations not shading it's never my intent I've done it a few times yes but a lot of what I do is me calling out posts I don't like I think it's just a conflict in playstyles. The whole thing with your science case I said "You call it a case that's funny" the reason I said that was I found it weak that's all I wasn't trying to discredit your work I just thought it was weak.
~Maria

And the reason you are voting obvious town over Yuri is what?

I don't see why Yuri is obv scum I've seen people say "oh Yuri is scum" but I haven't seen anyone say why A&N's attitude feels fake to me. Maybe you can shed some light on me even if I've been getting WWE Titus vibes (aka I try and reach out to you and you just retreat and be stubborn and make me go into a mess)
~Maria

Go look at Yuri's fake af case on A+N

Put your thoughts of A+N aside for a minute and just go read the case.

[Fro99er]

I don't bias read in the first place I take offense to that statement.
Can you quote the case please
~Maria

Here you go

Also why do you scumread Elbrin and Drixx?
-Nebby

pedit: I just wanna hear what they have to say! Gawd.

Mkay thanks for talkin to me
-Nebby

Bad tone. And wanted to talk about the scumread on them, but there's no followup. Just 'thanks for talking to me'.

I'm excited!

and naaaaah, I don't care about the omgus. It's cute that you decided to target my weakest point tho.
What I do care about is you originally calling The DEO's a contradiction then calling it a slip. Because THAT is a contradiction. (Refering to 891 and 899)

-Nebby

More bad tone, trying to brush off the scumread. Not going to get into the differing definitions of slip and contradiction.

I'm literally in a convo with you rn about an issue, why are all your questions like this

Oh I thought you had OTHER concerns that actually involved you reading my ISO instead of misreping and discreditting all of my questions.

-Nebby

Is concerned with how I might be viewing their ISO. Expects me, their scumread, to apparently have a lot of good points relating to their ISO. Like they expect there to be something there, and are ignoring that we are currently in talks about an issue I have with their slot.

[Fro99er]

ELBIRN VOTE YURI NOW

[Fro99er]

Yuri keeps talking about all these problems they have with my slot.

Yet still is somehow townreading me. Like they know I'm town.

[Fro99er]

Unless they come and in and do something I'd take kyouko over Yuri right now cause I am not overly compelled by the Yuri case.

What's wrong with the Yuri case?

I am just not really sold by it and would rather lynch A&N and Kyoko

VOTE: Yuri

Fine the recent wall was weird and I'll vote with my town reads.

ew ew ew ew ew

Spiffeh is right. This is fucking scum.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Yuri

Fine the recent wall was weird and I'll vote with my town reads.

explain how it was weird

[Fro99er]

Titus are you town or scum reading beeboy, I can't remember

because you should be scumreading him now if you weren't before.

[Fro99er]

Nice of you all to finally notice

I already did notice.

[Fro99er]

Nice of you all to finally notice

I already did notice.

that just sealed the deal

[Fro99er]

I mean I would rather lynch A&N and Kyoko I am also just getting tired of this day phase and don't see either of those happening.

I mean outside an early gut read I don't think I have ever said that I thought Yuri was town so idk what is so odd about me deciding they could be scum. Also sheeping town reads is like one of the most common things that happens on this site >.>

what was weird about the wall

[Fro99er]

I am not compromising on Yuri cause I don't know why they are scum and I read the case on them but I kinda forget how I felt about it cause I am a scum fuck.

so why did you compromise now?

your town reads were on yuri then too

[Fro99er]

Furthermore the group think from Frogger and Spiffeh again. Jesus.

That's because we're obvscumbuddies and you are a great genius.

DUH

[Fro99er]

im looking for something to be confident about but id also settle on someone who wasnt me/a strong TR

I didn't like this part in particular.

WHY not

need some fucking WHY.

[Fro99er]

im looking for something to be confident about but id also settle on someone who wasnt me/a strong TR

I didn't like this part in particular.

I mean, isn't that what you're doing yourself?

Settling on someone who isn't yourself/a strong TR?

[Fro99er]

Because I am getting lazy and didn't like the part I quoted and I really do think that we need to move on with this game.

WHAT don't you like about it

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Beeboy

[Fro99er]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Get back on Yuri for ffs.
If beeboy wants to bus because ywall are associating him with Yuri then let him bus.

Also Math I feel you. Akane isn't talking to me and it makes me sad ;~;

-Nebby

I'm not associating them.

Beeboy's play is scummy by itself

[Fro99er]

Because after expressing multiple scum reads and basically having the post amount to "fuck it I'll do anything" is just really weird to me.

I mean I am willing to vote 4 people right now

So...still. Didn't you do the same thing you're accusing yuri of. You basically just went "fuck it I'll vote Yuri" despite having multiple scum reads.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Yuri

Fine the recent wall was weird and I'll vote with my town reads.

I mean, this is basically a fuck it I'll vote Yuri post.

[Fro99er]

I mean if you read my reasoning I feel as though my reason for voting Yuri goes beyond "fuck it I am bored"

I mean I would rather lynch A&N and Kyoko I am also just getting tired of this day phase and don't see either of those happening.

Isn't this basically "fuck it I'm bored"...that's kind of how that read to me

[Fro99er]

Math we are going to have words after this game.

Let the evidence drive the narrative. Don't let a personal narrative you have drive the way you perceive the evidence.

I tell my writers that all the time. Do not manipulate the data to fit a preconceived opinion of yours. Let the data speak for itself, because it will drive the story.

[Fro99er]

Frogger this was really cute, you bolded your words and put them in all caps and EVERYTHING <3

Ribbit ribbit

[Fro99er]

Math we are going to have words after this game.

Let the evidence drive the narrative. Don't let a personal narrative you have drive the way you perceive the evidence.

I tell my writers that all the time. Do not manipulate the data to fit a preconceived opinion of yours. Let the data speak for itself, because it will drive the story.

I expect you will NOT be called on for coaching, but let's see.

IDGAF about coaching.

[Fro99er]

And going "fuck it I won't go for my top scum read because Yuri is fine" and going "fuck it I'll Lynch any non town read" is a lot fucking different.

Like what part of this can't you grasp frogger I really would like to know?

It's not a lot different. It's only a little different.

Both of you are saying "fuck it I'll vote for non-town reads" ... you're just narrowing yours down to a few specific scum (you have 4 scum reads you said)

[Fro99er]

And going "fuck it I won't go for my top scum read because Yuri is fine" and going "fuck it I'll Lynch any non town read" is a lot fucking different.

Like what part of this can't you grasp frogger I really would like to know?

It's not a lot different. It's only a little different.

Both of you are saying "fuck it I'll vote for non-town reads" ... you're just narrowing yours down to a few specific scum (you have 4 scum reads you said)

What part of I have 4 scum reads and will vote for all 4 of those scum reads makes you think I am town read all 16 of the other players?

THAT'S NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID AND YOU KNOW IT

[Fro99er]

And going "fuck it I won't go for my top scum read because Yuri is fine" and going "fuck it I'll Lynch any non town read" is a lot fucking different.

Like what part of this can't you grasp frogger I really would like to know?

It's not a lot different. It's only a little different.

Both of you are saying "fuck it I'll vote for non-town reads" ... you're just narrowing yours down to a few specific scum (you have 4 scum reads you said)

What part of I have 4 scum reads and will vote for all 4 of those scum reads makes you think I am town read all 16 of the other players?

THAT'S NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID AND YOU KNOW IT

I SAID YOU AND YURI BOTH WILL NOT VOTE YOUR TOWN READS.

AMONG THE GROUP OF YOUR NON-TOWN READS, YURI WILL VOTE ANYONE. YOU HAVE NARROWED IT TO 4 OF I DONT KNOW HOW MANY NON-TOWN READS YOU HAVE.

[Fro99er]

Where the fuck did I say you have 16 town reads beeboy?

Show me.

I said you are not going to vote in your town reads. Nowhere did I say because you have 4 scum reads means you have 16 town reads. It means you have 4 people you'll vote, X people you don't necessarily town read but won't vote, and Y people you town read, where X+Y = 15 (since you scum read 4 people and also removing yourself)

[Fro99er]

Unless Yuri is town reading like 16 different people right now she is being a lot more generous with who she will "fuck it" vote then I am and it is VERY different.

No, it's slightly different.

Yuri is going 19 - their town reads

you are going 19 - your town reads - a few other non-town reads = 4 scum reads

it's not all that different.

Different yes...THAT different, no.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Yuri

[Fro99er]

at least beeboy is finally showing some fire

[Fro99er]

I want this yuri thing to happen so Math and Titus can at least vote in their one similar read.

[Fro99er]

Frog wtf you argue for beeboy for three pages, dont reach an agreement or seem satisfied at all, but then you want to vote me so titus and math will get along??

No. I vote you because you're scum.

Have I not made that clear ALL FUCKING DAY PHASE

[Fro99er]

the reason for the switch back does not make sense to me at all

The reason for the switch back is because I think you are scum too, and there's more support for your lynch than beeboy's. At this point I'm fine lynching either of you two.

[Fro99er]

Town synergy is talking about reads together and coming to an answer and trying to figure something out or helping each other on a common problem
I do not want to fucking hear your reasoning on switching your vote was because you wanted to fucking help someone fix there hydra
that is B U L L S H I T
~Maria

I don't really care what you think, because that's not my reason at all.

[Fro99er]

Frog could have said
"I'm voting this cause I still think it's scum"

the reason for the switch back does not make sense to me at all

The reason for the switch back is because I think you are scum too

"I think this has a better wagon chance"

and there's more support for your lynch than beeboy's.

Learn to read.

[Fro99er]

I want this yuri thing to happen so Math and Titus can at least vote in their one similar read.

Yep...and that was ONE OF MULTIPLE REASONS

[Fro99er]

Then I'm going to ask you to be quiet until you sync up and get on the same page together,

TITUS

I lol'd

[Fro99er]

Or we could let ABR explain what changed instead of handwaving it away as 700-1000 posts apart so NBD

[Fro99er]

Creature,

you said you're not opposed to Yuri.

Sondam is not happening. Vote Yuri

[Fro99er]

If Yuri flips scum I might be more interested in Spif tbh.

-Nebby

10000% this

[Fro99er]

Creature,

you said you're not opposed to Yuri.

Sondam is not happening. Vote Yuri

First I need volunteers to take the lynch if Yuri flips town.

that's not how this works.

If you're scum, this is straight up lining up lynches.

[Fro99er]

Hmm, how many votes Yuri is at?

8

L-3

[Fro99er]

If Yuri flips scum you guys are fucking morons if you lynch me solely based on me "ignoring" them while pushing others I thought were scum.

I hope he/she flips town solely so I don't have to deal with that bullshit

I hope he/she flips scum because i want to win.

[Fro99er]

Is Yuri dead yet?

[Fro99er]

You'll get a lot of grief soon regardless scumbucket

[Fro99er]

This game is nowhere near toxic

[Fro99er]

We can just lynch ABR tommorow.

[Fro99er]

@Creature: Get back on Yuri

[Fro99er]

Mariar, is Fro99er town-aligned?

I would snap at you but then I just see your avi and think DAWWWW ICE BEAR <3
Change it please so I can yell at you.

Answer the question

[Fro99er]

Btw, I want to know if Fro99er is town or not.

I am town

[Fro99er]

Why Fro00er out of everyone? Is he hard to read for you or?
~Maria

Fro00er is a new one.

Kinda like it

[Fro99er]

*Makes Fro00er alt*

[Fro99er]

Fro99er who do you want me to vote?

Yuri

[Fro99er]

Okay, maybe I can support you at that.

So are you un-crossing me off your list?

[Fro99er]

Fro99er who do you want me to vote?

Yuri

No because its too early to lynch. Who else?

Beeboy, Max, Notice and one of Leon or Sondam but I'm not sure which

[Fro99er]

Caesar also really bothers me, but that's not really something that's going to happen right now.

[Fro99er]

Caesar also really bothers me, but that's not really something that's going to happen right now.

Can you briefly catch me up?

Basically Caesar came into the game about halfway through, plopped a vote down on Vecna for no real reason, refuses to comment on major wagons despite people asking them to, and Aeronaut head isn't posting which is basically a scumclaim from Aero.

[Fro99er]

That and the way Caesar is posting isn't helping. It moves them toward the policy side in my book.

[Fro99er]

Aeronaut head isn't posting which is basically a scumclaim from Aero.

Aeronaut...what are you doing??

Only time I've ever seen aero as town he was active in trying to solve the game.

Every other time he's rolled scum and lurked then replaced out.

[Fro99er]

I'm not even a policy lynch supporter really, (thinks i supported it and he other time) but I'd seriously consider policy-ing Caesar

[Fro99er]

I'm not even a policy lynch supporter really, (think i supported it one other time) but I'd seriously consider policy-ing Caesar

EBWOP

[Fro99er]

Last game I played with him he was despondent town. We mislynched him. He might not be scum here.

Wht about the three points i bring up about Caesar?

[Fro99er]

Last game I played with him he was despondent town. We mislynched him. He might not be scum here.

Wht about the other points i bring up about Caesar?

EBWOP

Ducking phone

[Fro99er]

I'd flashwagon it if there was support for doing so, only because this Yuri lynch has now stalled and is being derailed by Creature of all people.

[Fro99er]

Vecna are you going to just shade everywhere else?

[Fro99er]

idk, I have Sondam (though, not so much rn), Fro99er, Caesar Wills it, you, atleast one of my scumreads, maybe ABR

How did i change from a town read to a scum read of yours?

[Fro99er]

idk, I have Sondam (though, not so much rn), Fro99er, Caesar Wills it, you, atleast one of my scumreads, maybe ABR

How did i change from a town read to a scum read of yours?

idk, I had a feeling you were town, now I have meta.

You had the same meta when you called me town.

So what changed.

[Fro99er]

Okay, gonna check again, maybe I judged one only game too much.

I'm asking you:

What changed between you calling me town and you calling me scum.

Because it's not meta.

Why do you think I'm scum now but not before.

Don't give me the "meta" BS because like I said, you already had meta on me when you called me town.

[Fro99er]

Look at Creature trying to derail this Yuri wagon and throw BS scum reads around.

And that vote on davesaz is awful.

[Fro99er]

Shush Creature is town

Why?

[Fro99er]

Don't give me "activity"

Creature is actively trying to change that meta of his.

[Fro99er]

Basic differences: Planning lynches =/= Lining up mislynches

Creature is actively trying to change that meta of his.

I (maybe) can fake activity, I can't fake determination.

And you are determined to derail this Yuri lynch

[Fro99er]

Don't give me "activity"

Creature is actively trying to change that meta of his.

Activity was my previous townread on you, though activity isn't AI anymore for you.

Activity has never been alignment indicative for me.

So why are you scumreading me

[Fro99er]

CREATURE WHY ARE YOU SCUMREADING ME

[Fro99er]

You're part of my experiments, when I have one nullread I want sorted someway, I scumread them (not pretend), even though I don't have a real read. Sometimes I can get to townread them, sometimes they turn out to be someone like MariaR. What matters is to get townreads.

Alright.

I think i actually understand what creature is saying.

[Fro99er]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

[Fro99er]

Spiff I thought you wanted to pressure ssbm

[Fro99er]

So apparently lurking isn't alignment indicative for LUV

[Fro99er]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

[Fro99er]

Yuri's recent posts look town to me and anyone that isn't acknowledging that is just too committed to their tunnel

Several of their posts give me the impression that they know they're being mislynched and they want to make sure their scum reads don't go overlooked (i.e Vecna).

beeboy's hop to Yuri was so fucking bad that Yuri voting for them in return doesn't really bother me.

I agree with the last line.

Voting the counter wagon as Yuri did isn't alignment indicative. Town and scum do it for survival.

[Fro99er]

Spiff I thought you wanted to pressure ssbm

As far as I know ssbm hasn't posted since my "case" on them and it's useless to pressure a slot that is completely absent

What is this even supposed to mean anyway? From your eyes I wasn't pressuring ssbm while parked on the Yuri wagon so why is this something you're only bringing up now?

Because I'm wondering since you went off beeboy and on to ssbm then why go back to beeboy instead of ssbm

Why are you so cranky?

[Fro99er]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

Why are you town reading him so strongly?

Because he's making sense

[Fro99er]

Frog are you really still scum reading Yuri after their recent posts?

Like I can understand "no change" but I think it's weird that people are still trying to pass off their recent content as scummy (AHEM BEEBOY).

No, I didn't pick up any new stuff from Yuri's recent posts

[Fro99er]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

Why are you town reading him so strongly?

Because he's making sense

Examples?

Making sense is not a reason to townread someone. I make sense as either alignment if I am in the right state of mind. (Insert ABR objection so he doesn't have to post)

You're right, it's not.

I just don't feel like going through why right now on PV, especially on mobile, because it's not going to help us lynch scum right now.

I should probably re-evaluate my PV read anyway, because the only meta I have with him is when he's more direct attacking as town.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Beeboy

Spiffeh is making a lot of sense

[Fro99er]

Spiffeh is classic town spiffeh with these last few town posts

And his annoyment for the game state is not scum annoyment

[Fro99er]

And to be clear, beeboy voting Yuri isn't scummy

What's scummy is the bullshit and blanket justification he attaches to the vote that made no sense when he explained further.

No. It isn't. You are tunnelled.

Except it was.

Even I pointed that out and I'm not tunneled on Beebrain

[Fro99er]

We should flashwagon Pine/Aero if we want a third wagon.

[Fro99er]

We should flashwagon Pine/Aero if we want a third wagon.

And do what with it?

We can just lynch Spiffy today.

Absolutely disgusting.
-Nebby

Get it to do fucking anything

@A+N

[Fro99er]

Not doing that.

We can deal with lurkers Day 2.

Says the guy who wanted to deal with a lurker in ssbm

[Fro99er]

We can just lynch Spiffy today.

Fucking stop this. Spiffeh is town and your not helping anything right now

[Fro99er]

We have nearly 10 fucking days. You keep making this point yourself spiff

A wagon on Caesar would help the game state.

[Fro99er]

Not doing that.

We can deal with lurkers Day 2.

Says the guy who wanted to deal with a lurker in ssbm

I pressured them when they weren't lurking

Ever since I voted them they fell off the face of the Earth

So stop

Piss off

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Caesar

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Spiffeh

Worst vote of the game

[Fro99er]

Well areo's not posting so as you've said spiff, it's a scumclaim

[Fro99er]

Yes Frog I said earlier that we should use the time we have this Day but the same 8-10 people are posting and it only serves to make it harder for the people not as engaged in the game to catch up.

I am decently confident that beeboy will be flipping scum so this is probably gonna be my final vote. You can pressure Caesar or w/e but I don't know how much it will accomplish.

I don't doubt that you believe that with beeboy and I think so too.

But ABR and Davesaz are now playing so the number of posters has increased and getting activity from Pine/Aero will be good

[Fro99er]

Piss off

Then stop saying things that are wrong

Dude, I get you think you're right on beeboy and lots of power to you if right. Is it really worth this though?

Exactly.

I am not sure why spiff is acting like this.

He used to be fun to play with, but I guess a lot can change in a year

[Fro99er]

Scum will night kill me because they will never be able to get me lynched and I had soft a PR a while back.

Why are you saying you softed?.

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

WHO SOFTS IN THIS GAME

[Fro99er]

Scum will night kill me because they will never be able to get me lynched and I had soft a PR a while back.

Why are you saying you softed?.

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

WHO SOFTS IN THIS GAME

wow.

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Stop it. There are no PR roles on either side.

Which is why Uzi saying he softed a PR is the most laughable thing in this game.

Along with his vote on spiff

[Fro99er]

ABR why not vote Caesar?

[Fro99er]

Yeah i think Creature is town.

[Fro99er]

Not lynching today

{A+N, DEO, Spiff, ABR, Nero, LUV, Vecna, Drixx, PV, Creature, Elbirn, me}

Any votes in there need to go away.

[Fro99er]

That's 12 players.

You are quite astute with your observations

[Fro99er]

Not lynching today

{A+N, DEO, Spiff, ABR, Nero, LUV, Vecna, Drixx, PV, Creature, Elbirn, me}

Any votes in there need to go away.

That doesn't means i necessarily townread all of them

Those are just people the semi-townbloc will not coalesce on

[Fro99er]

I don't think the semi-townbloc will coalesce on noticemesenpai either

[Fro99er]

I'm more glad when my reads are somewhat in conflict than nearly identical to someone's

It gives us more to work through and keeps our net wider

[Fro99er]

Caesar greets the noble Senators on this fine Roman morning!

Caesar has heard the pleas of the common people and listened to the discourse of this august body, and is prepared to make his first pronouncement of judgment.

In Our Sight, it is evident that the knavish so-called Senator Vecna is indeed an apostate, as it has come to our attention that he consorts with pagan rituals and barbarian filth. It is rumored indeed that he may be a necromantic sorcerer most foul, and is even worshipped as a perverse deity by uneducated swine. This affront to Our Own Divinity shall not be tolerated.

Further, we discern the motives of this creature to be malign in intent and manipulative in nature, fit to serve only self to the detriment of Mother Rome. We interpret this vile sorcerer's actions to be in keeping with what is commonly called a 'scumfuck' by the peasantry.

Be it resolved that all loyal Senators ought be compelled to cast their vote against the interloper.

VOTE: Vecna

ABR

this is probably scum

[Fro99er]

Caesar greets the noble Senators on this fine Roman morning!

Caesar has heard the pleas of the common people and listened to the discourse of this august body, and is prepared to make his first pronouncement of judgment.

In Our Sight, it is evident that the knavish so-called Senator Vecna is indeed an apostate, as it has come to our attention that he consorts with pagan rituals and barbarian filth. It is rumored indeed that he may be a necromantic sorcerer most foul, and is even worshipped as a perverse deity by uneducated swine. This affront to Our Own Divinity shall not be tolerated.

Further, we discern the motives of this creature to be malign in intent and manipulative in nature, fit to serve only self to the detriment of Mother Rome. We interpret this vile sorcerer's actions to be in keeping with what is commonly called a 'scumfuck' by the peasantry.

Be it resolved that all loyal Senators ought be compelled to cast their vote against the interloper.

VOTE: Vecna

ABR

this is probably scum

And if not at least pressuring the slot will help town sort it

You have to agree with that.

Do not be stubborn

[Fro99er]

I read that already and it's null. I flavor like that all the time.

Nothing to do with flavor.

Everything to do with a terrible reason for voting Vecna while the townbloc was vibing

[Fro99er]

And refusal to listen to people in the townbloc.

At least you're attempting to listen to me

[Fro99er]

What about Max.

I've had at least one of either Yuri or Max as scum all game and i think spiffeh is making good points about Yuri

[Fro99er]

Can we lynch real scum Luv or are we gonna keep up this circle jerk we have going on and just lynch town Yuri the fact the bee wagon is hard semi worries me aswell makes me think a lot of scum aren't getting votes
~maria

LUV is not an option today.

There literally isn't enough support in the game for it to happen right now.

[Fro99er]

Can we lynch real scum Luv

I endorse this product and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

I don't, so let's work where we can find common ground.

You weren't opposed to max from my list.

I still don't understand the resistance to Caesar

[Fro99er]

Can we lynch real scum Luv or are we gonna keep up this circle jerk we have going on and just lynch town Yuri the fact the bee wagon is hard semi worries me aswell makes me think a lot of scum aren't getting votes
~maria

LUV is not an option today.

There literally isn't enough support in the game for it to happen right now.

What the fuck are you talking about? We have 9 days what do you mean not enough support we can legit wagon anyone in the game
~Maria

No,

There are far too many people townreading LUV

[Fro99er]

I wish myself Titus and Spiffeh could work together

But Titus won't agree to Beeboy and spiffeh won't agree to anything other than Beeboy.

The three of us can lead town today if we just find common ground

[Fro99er]

That's why I'm trying to find a common ground.

Whether it's max or Caesar or something.

I really wish spiffeh wouldn't be so stubborn with 9.5 days left

He didn't used to be like this, but I guess that nom went to his head.

[Fro99er]

What the fuck are you talking about? We have 9 days what do you mean not enough support we can legit wagon anyone in the game~Maria

+1

Game just started 4 days ago, we can run up anyone we want.

We cannot if there isn't enough support for it

But by all means go for it

Your refusal to work with what is almost a solid townbloc is not doing you any favors

[Fro99er]

If luv doesn't flip scum I'ma run outside naked saying I saw satan
~Maria

Do you think vecna is scum?

[Fro99er]

If luv doesn't flip scum I'ma run outside naked saying I saw satan
~Maria

Do you think vecna is scum?

It's quite possible with the defense he's doing on obv scum yes

And you think i'm scum

And A+N right?

[Fro99er]

who wants to hear a funny joke
its winter and the heat in my building has been off all day
looks like its getting dealt with soon

Knee slapper

[Fro99er]

If luv doesn't flip scum I'ma run outside naked saying I saw satan
~Maria

Do you think vecna is scum?

It's quite possible with the defense he's doing on obv scum yes

And you think i'm scum

And A+N right?

A&N is on the low low low end of sr's compared to other people so I'd put them at null.
Pedit: Oh shut it Luv when you saw I was srs you 100% jumped on my ass and it's so shocking you sr the 2 people going for your ass

So you think myself, LUV, and Vecna are a scum voting bloc? And possibly A+N too?

Got it

Slap yourself after this game.

Unless you are scum.

[Fro99er]

I took a page out of Ali's book and showed him how reaction testing is done. I got what I wanted and I'm sure one of ABR or Sondam is scum.

ABR is probably. He's buddying the FUCK out of people who are dividing town right now. Buddying Math until they insisted ABR talk to me, Buddying SPiffey with beeboy push, buddying the people pushing A and N rather than answer for his bullshit, buddying MariaR/Spiffeh with a LUV push. ABR has one goal. It's to divide town.

I actually agree with this.

I was trying to give ABR a chance but he clearly is resisting anything I offer

[Fro99er]

this should have been over 60 pages ago. There's prob scum in the really active posters. There *might* be scum in the "lurkers" but all of this "we need to pressure lurkers!" feels like a distraction.

Nero, talk to me.

Besides Titus, who are your top three scumreads

[Fro99er]

ABR is town

@Frogger and Titus

I really don't know what your issue is here. I think you're both town. You can wagon Caesar if you want, I've given you my opinion on that already. I want to keep the beeboy wagon viable. I've explained why I think it would be better for the day to end now but you guys can do what you feel is right. It's not like I'm opposing you at every turn, I'd even argue we've been on the same page for most of the game.

So I really don't know where you're coming from when you say I'm not working with you. I understand that you both think town synergy is important but if I think you're on the completely wrong track (as I do now with Yuri) then yes I will directly oppose you and explain why I think you're wrong.

WE ARE NOT VOTING YURI

[Fro99er]

I JIST KISTENED TO YOU ON YURI SPIFFEH

[Fro99er]

JUST LISTENED GOD DAMN

[Fro99er]

Titus u say dividing town i say, literally goddamn derailing my mislynch

Sure. He derailed your wagon.

That doesn't make him town even if you are town.

When i'm scum I derail town mislynches all the time for town cred

His refusal to work with obvious town is telling

[Fro99er]

I was trying to give ABR a chance but he clearly is resisting anything I offer

Dumbest post in the game.

Out of all the players, I asked YOU who you wanted me to vote. You gave a couple names, I picked one, you joined, then you walked back what you said and say I'm the one who isn't doing what you want.

Right and now I'm giving you different names and you are refusing to work with me on new names

[Fro99er]

this should have been over 60 pages ago. There's prob scum in the really active posters. There *might* be scum in the "lurkers" but all of this "we need to pressure lurkers!" feels like a distraction.

Exactly. The push on Ceasar is scum driven, 100%, and people are falling for it.

Who is the scum driving it?

[Fro99er]

this should have been over 60 pages ago. There's prob scum in the really active posters. There *might* be scum in the "lurkers" but all of this "we need to pressure lurkers!" feels like a distraction.

Nero, talk to me.

Besides Titus, who are your top three scumreads

Creature, A+N, Vecna

God dammit

Creature is so obviously town now

[Fro99er]

are you suspicious of spiffeh?? you sure put a lot of stock into his opinions despite that

I thought we were talking about ABR

[Fro99er]

Right and now I'm giving you different names and you are refusing to work with me on new names

I gave you the names I was willing to lynch. We have to meet on the middle if you want cooperation.

How about Maxous

[Fro99er]

Though I'd wager that there be scum in those that were voting Yuri and then switched to Ceasar, if any did.

This is a good point.

If Yuri really is town, as Spiff is making me start to think, then there was almost surely scum on that wagon.

I need to analyze that wagon

[Fro99er]

Lynch Vote 1.31

Yuri (9):

Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Leonshade

beeboy (3):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai

davesaz (1):

Creature

The DEO (1):

Albert B. Rampage

Sondam (1):

Drixx

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

Not Voting (2):

davesaz, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Plus creature was on it before Leonshade put Yuri at L-1

So that's the full wagon

[Fro99er]

Alright.

VOTE: Beeboy

[Fro99er]

I really think nero is town too.

And I never townread Nero

[Fro99er]

Alright.

VOTE: Beeboy

No. We are not helping scum divide town.

UNVOTE:

Nero

What is your read on Beeboy?

[Fro99er]

Frogg's attack on Yuri was BS his reason for not voting Luv is BS all I see from frog is BS

How was it BS

TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT ABOUT MY CASE ON YURI WAS BS

[Fro99er]

Nebby Nero is town

[Fro99er]

Frogger is town because he's all over the place and that's how town!Frogger plays.
-Nebby
pedit: Kaaaaaay

Nailed it

[Fro99er]

I'm getting more solid reads though

Spiffeh, Creature and Nero are some of my strongest town reads now

[Fro99er]

Nero and Titus

Focus on scum, not on each other

Nero -- your thoughts on Beeboy please (sorry if I missed it)

[Fro99er]

Frogger is town because he's all over the place and that's how town!Frogger plays.
-Nebby
pedit: Kaaaaaay

Scummy ^

It's really not scummy at all.

I have a pretty divisive meta and Ali would know that of all people

[Fro99er]

Spiffeh

Thoughts on Maxous?

Not saying we're all going to vote there

I just want your thoughts on Max

[Fro99er]

And I never townread Nero

TBF we've only played one game together and you went batshit crazy after I accused you of being scum.

I don't remember hating anything from Bee.

I see your new opinion now.

We've played two games together but I was scum the second game, but I wouldn't have townread you there if I was town. I think it was multi ball so i think I was legit scumreading you despite being scum

Could be memory failing me

[Fro99er]

It's really not scummy at all.

The only part that I think is real scummy is when she's hard scumreading me, you tell him he's wrong and he's like "oh ok!"

This is a fair point, but I more read it as "kaaaaaaay...if you say so but IDK" (skeptical rather than agreeable)

[Fro99er]

Now we're fighting over who is buddying frogger

This is ridic

[Fro99er]

Yuri,

Can you talk to me about Max?

[Fro99er]

Blame everyone who wasn't on the Yuri wagon when he was at L-2.

What about those that derailed the Yuri wagon?

And that too, which is why Spiffy is probably scum.

STOP IT

[Fro99er]

Now we're fighting over who is buddying frogger

This is ridic

You're my Frogger <3
-Nebby

Fro99er member when we won a large theme, lynched Titus, and won best town performance? Round 2 baby

Lol

We did kick some ass

Spiffeh was there too

And PV!

And drixx!

[Fro99er]

That was honestly the most coherent town ever

[Fro99er]

Now we're fighting over who is buddying frogger

This is ridic

You're my Frogger <3
-Nebby

Fro99er member when we won a large theme, lynched Titus, and won best town performance? Round 2 baby

Lol

We did kick some ass

Spiffeh was there too

And PV!

And drixx!

Yup and you realize what didn't happen. ABR never lied. Town never turned on itself.

Yuri,

Can you talk to me about Max?

yeah i just saw this
tbh i dont remember the max wagon that well. i could ISO him if you want a read, hold on

TY

[Fro99er]

No idea why that first quote quoted

[Fro99er]

Fro99er member when we won a large theme, lynched Titus, and won best town performance? Round 2 baby

lmao

Spiffles

Max

Talk to me about him

[Fro99er]

titus please stop with that. assuming im town and beeboy is town then who the fuck is scum?? beeboy is my best shot. would rather vecna but honestly
and caesar is sort of a lame lurker lynch, uzi's right i doubt it would go anywhere in the end

If Titus is town, she's going to die tonight and then you'll have me to contend with tomorrow..

STFU with talk about this

[Fro99er]

This game is pissing me off so bad

I just want to lynch fucking scum.

Spiffeh talk to me about Max

Yuri talk to me about Max

Nero talk to me about Max

ABR talk to me about max

[Fro99er]

A+N talk to me about Max

[Fro99er]

ok back to lurking.Lynch whomever you guys want. Though (just in case I die) if whomever gets lynched flips town you should totes consider lynching those that were on Yuri and then switched.

I was one of those but I'm not getting lynched because I'm fucking obvtown

[Fro99er]

ABR talk to me about max

Town: Fro99er, Maxou, PV, Spiffeh
Scum: beeboy, Creature, LUV

He's committed to posting fluff and flavor, he won't be pressured to change, we will only waste our precious time. Maxou is town, has been calling for Beeboy before even you or I. His reads are on point.

Maxou, Yume, and Ceasar are definitely not on the table for me. Who else you want lynched Fro99er? I gave you 3 names, you gave me 3, where can we agree?

TY ABR

[Fro99er]

@Frogger, Seriously, what do you take of ABR arguing flavorposting as null despite ABR only doing it in games like Cyberpunk as scum? That's an outright lie to defend Caesar who has done nothing. Why is this so hard to get your attention on? Because ABR cried and said personal? I'm not SRing Nero.

Oh I'm not ignoring this.

I'm processing it all

I think the resistance to getting Caesar to do anything is fucked up

We have 9.5 days i think we should make them talk.

[Fro99er]

Fro99er any new ideas?? We've been going in circles. I gave you 4 names, you give me 3.

Let me stew on this.

The only agreement we have is Beeboy and I'm not quite comfortable with the fact that there are literally two halves of people scumreading each other

[Fro99er]

Fro99er any new ideas?? We've been going in circles. I gave you 4 names, you give me 3.

Let me stew on this.

The only agreement we have is Beeboy and I'm not quite comfortable with the fact that there are literally two halves of people scumreading each other

Explain this.

Sondam, ABR and your other head are scumreading myself, A+N, LUV, Vecna

There's probably a few other names in there I can't think off the top of my head and vice versa but my wife is slapping me that we need to go drink.

[Fro99er]

Frogger talk to me about Beeboy
-Nebby

Scum

Would gladly hammer

[Fro99er]

Frogger talk to me about Beeboy
-Nebby

Scum

Would gladly hammer

Why hammer?
Why not just vote them now?
-Nebby

Because I'm out drinking and need to process a few thibgs

[Fro99er]

Need to process things but would gladly hamme.

LPOK AT ME CONTRADICT MYSELF

[Fro99er]

Need to process things but would gladly hamme.

LPOK AT ME CONTRADICT MYSELF

Sound like you're already gone

I'm a frog therefore I am a lightweight

[Fro99er]

Vecna's opinions are getting worse and worse

Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby

No, actually town!Spiff convinced me

[Fro99er]

Vecna's opinions are getting worse and worse

Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby

No, actually town!Spiff convinced me

No idea why that first post is there, but I don't disagree

[Fro99er]

Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby

BINGO

FLASHWAGON ALBERT B SCUMLORD

this only works if im scum dude i thought you wanted me to 'change my read on you for the win'

[Fro99er]

Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby

BINGO

FLASHWAGON ALBERT B SCUMLORD

Not bingo at all.

Spiffeh derailed the Yuri wagon as much as or more than ABR.

And I'm not complaining about it

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Vecna

[Fro99er]

Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby

BINGO

FLASHWAGON ALBERT B SCUMLORD

Titus, the foundation is in place. Now hammer Beeboy to see what theyre made off

VOTE: Beeboy

LET THE DIE BE CAST

COOKIE MONSTER WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT

[Fro99er]

A+N you have to be suspicious of that

[Fro99er]

Of what Vecna just did

Given what's i know of your towngame

[Fro99er]

No Vecna is fucking scum

[Fro99er]

Just went to The D Casino

Saw this

[Fro99er]

#FroggerCraps

[Fro99er]

wtf is even going on anymore.
-Nebby

Fucking read Vecna's scum hop

[Fro99er]

Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby

BINGO

FLASHWAGON ALBERT B SCUMLORD

Titus, the foundation is in place. Now hammer Beeboy to see what theyre made off

VOTE: Beeboy

LET THE DIE BE CAST

COOKIE MONSTER WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT

ALISAE FUCKING READ THIS HE SAYS ABR IS PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE THEN VOTES WITH ABR SECONDS LATER. COME ON

[Fro99er]

THANK YOU PEDIT

[Fro99er]

That's a gambit and you damn well know it is.

No, I don't know it.

[Fro99er]

Remember that time Vecna brought up there are 5 scum.

Those were the good ole days

[Fro99er]

Yuri, it's not a "vanity vote" if other people help lynch him.
And I think plenty of others are willing to - in fact creature quoted them earlier.
I haven't read a lot of this but 9/10 times I see a creature post it suggests he ain't town.
And creature tends to be an easy town-read

Creature is voting me. I think he's scum. Help me lynch his partner Vecna.

Yo ABR creature is town.

Seriously

[Fro99er]

Remember that time Vecna brought up there are 5 scum.

Those were the good ole days

Remember when you told me that was nothing and not to be concerned.

Right. Either it's a thing or it isn't.

Wait did I really say that?

I don't even remember

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

I'm tired of being buddied and I'm going on the zip line

Y'all sort this amongst yourselves and I'll come back and see what a I think

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

I'm tired of being buddied and I'm going on the zip line

Y'all sort this amongst yourselves and I'll come back and see what a I think

facepalm

WHY

BECAUSE I WANT TO SOLVE THIS GAME?

[Fro99er]

I'm drunk and kissed off

[Fro99er]

Kissed off

[Fro99er]

Pissed off