Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Nero I caught you as scum before and would've caught you in 199.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Can you at least ask about the Jeareed read Titus? Because the explenation I was given was incomprehensible to me.

Mathblade uses They for the record.

Their explanation is simple. JaeReed derped and derping is their town game. See Shadowrun. (I'm sure they'd have more detail, but that's the gist). 90+ percent of Math's reads today are meta.

Then they should know I'm town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why am I VI?

I've played with you in reacted.

Oh now I know! Listen y'all were idiots.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Can you at least ask about the Jeareed read Titus? Because the explenation I was given was incomprehensible to me.

Mathblade uses They for the record.

Their explanation is simple. JaeReed derped and derping is their town game. See Shadowrun. (I'm sure they'd have more detail, but that's the gist). 90+ percent of Math's reads today are meta.

Then they should know I'm town.

We haven't spoke at length on you. Right now, if you defend Vecna, Math doesn't like you. Given that's everyone but Math though... :/

He's town. Go back and look at his early game in PyP. There is a drastic difference in how he started that game compared to here.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why are we voting Yuri again? And who he is?

Why are we voting Yuri again? And who he is?

He's scum Creature.

I tired to give him an out but he told me to fuck off so he dies.

Tried to give him an out? You tried to force him to say who his main is, and of course he won't say, that's the purpose of playing an alt. What did you expect him to say?

The impression I got from reading that conversation is you bullied him into a corner and it was really not cool but if you're convinced on your meta read I guess that's fine. I'm really uncomfortable with how easily Vecna and frogger shifted onto yuri and how they both gave their reasons as bussing to antagonize The DEO hydra. I think Frogger had a real case earlier about Yuri appeasing Titus or something and I guess Vecna said he liked that case though.

pedit: I've also only played with scum!Nero

Look it's not personal. I actually really like the guy but I was frankly insulted that he try to pass off the reasoning he did. I tried to give him an out because I thought he was just being lazy again but that apparently isn't the case. We'll have a good laugh about it after I'm sure.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Who is Yuri?

He can answer that for himself. Have too much respect for dude to expose him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

How long ago was Musical Mafia?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Who is Yuri?

He can answer that for himself. Have too much respect for dude to expose him.

...ok, I think whoever told you who I was was yanking your chain or else mistaken themselves. Because this isn't true. I barely know you, and I doubt you have much respect for me.
Busy besides that! Will get to Frog's case when I have time later.

You don't need to lie man.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The "stop what you're talking about" thing was a joke relax

I read your case, I see your points, but I think beeboy has a better chance of flipping scum so that is who I will be pushing.

I understand your points about beeboy I'm just asking how long was that game you played with him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No it's not just WIFOM

Role selection discussion just narrows down for scum where the power roles are and where the next batch of roles could likely land

So people need to shut up about their role preferences

No it's definitely wifom, you just haven't thought about it enough yet

I guess I did shift onto him rather easily, which is fine for him to be suspicious about.

Id much ather have ssbm adjust the frogger case from a few pages ago though, and adress why he thinks those points are invalid reasons for sheeping the wagon.

Now that would be a true depiction of town quality, instead of just making obvious observations.

I don't think those are invalid points though, I'm just out-of-game personally offended by the way LUV went about voting Yuri and I'm not going to have any part in it, so I'm predispositioned to dislike that wagon now

Can you at least ask about the Jeareed read Titus? Because the explenation I was given was incomprehensible to me.

Mathblade uses They for the record.

Their explanation is simple. JaeReed derped and derping is their town game. See Shadowrun. (I'm sure they'd have more detail, but that's the gist). 90+ percent of Math's reads today are meta.

I've never played with math. Can you ask them the reason for the scumread on me?

You're defending "obvscum" Vecna. That's their reason.

(Quotes are because I disagree.)

~Titus

But I'm bussing obvscum Yuri?

Got it

Math thinks unless Vecna gets lynched today, he will never be lynched. So they justify it as you bussing Yuri to save Vecna. I told them, well we get scum. They said

but Vecna gets away

.

~Titus

Actually hilarious

Did you read my actually reasoning though? It literally has nothing do with the alt stuff.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Uzi: Yeah, you said my reasoning for voting you was weak. Which could be fine. But then you have to go on 'oh, but I gave him an out and he didn't take it' when your out was me revealing my main. So of course I wouldn't take it.

It's not really that you didn't take it, it is more so that you didn't make any effort to address the concerns I had about you. You were so focused on me asking you to out you couldn't tune me out and just get back to resolving things with me or scum hunting. That's an issue.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I understand your points about beeboy I'm just asking how long was that game you played with him.

And I said it was last year.

Why do you ask?

Just curious as to why you haven't asked him if it might've changed.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's not really that you didn't take it, it is more so that you didn't make any effort to address the concerns I had about you. You were so focused on me asking you to out you couldn't tune me out and just get back to resolving things with me or scum hunting. That's an issue.

I shouldn't have to tune you out to have a discussion with

you

. If you wanted me to address your concerns, engage me in this game instead of saying shit like "i want to lynch you on your main again" which is going to be distracting as fuck.

I didn't like that your two scumreads were Leon and myself at the time, when i didn't see much in the way of you developing those. I asked where your scumread on me came from, and don't remember getting an answer.

I stated why I was scum reading Leon.

987 is why I'm scum reading you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Uzi how are you reading beeboy?

Because you seem really concerned with how a lot of people are perceiving him. Earlier you said you thought he might be a VI, what gave you that impression?

Just the way he handled the Resolution voting gave me the impression of VI. My impression was only reinforced after he voted for me.

It's not that I'm concerned, I just have a gut feeling I can't shake.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Kyouko's take on the whole thing makes me realize that I probably went too far and should come clean. I don't know you Yuri. I just acted like that because I didn't like that you reentered the thread earlier without addressing your top scum read at the time which was me.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Forgot to talk about this: Problem I have with Frog rn is the willingness to jump on the beeboy wagon on the basis of Spiff's meta and not much else. Goes back to me when I get heat again.

I'll wait for Frog's analysis. He did say he would quote specific posts from that game to explain why he agrees with Spiff.

Could you talk about why you were getting on Frog for self meta earlier?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Could you talk about why you were getting on Frog for self meta earlier?

I don't mind self-meta. I did explain this earlier, but my problem was Frog apparently bringing up self-meta to a player he didn't know, in response to me calling him scummy. It didn't make sense, because of course I wouldn't know his meta. So saying 'you're reading me wrong, this is obvtown-me' was a weird thing to say in response to me and didn't feel real at all.

I agree to an extent but the problem was your overreaction to it even for it being weird. I remember you called him slimy and even said that you hated him because he wasn't going to tell you that it was one of his reaction tests until post game. It still feels like you're scum who wanted to lash out and push something that's ultimately NAI.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Never seen good scum say that.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I see Pine has arrived!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Leon's been scummy than ABR.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Am I missing something with ooba?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yeah Spiffy is acting like the game was 2 weeks ago.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

He only posted once and his only post looks terrible.

He preferred Arts but didn't really like Sciences if I'm remembering correctly so it all balanced out for me.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

As I said earlier, just a gut feeling. I strongly believe he's just VI who is having trouble getting into this game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

People are ignoring Notice who should've been lynched by now.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Is it too early to at least consolidate on a no list? I have a good amount of people I don't want to lynch today.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

People need to no build to ve able to beat scum that didnt build anything on the good wonders tomorrow

We have some abilities that are good though, like The Hanging Gardens (doctor), Stonehenge (death public cop), Statue of Zeus (self redirector), and maybe Mausoleum of Halicarnassum (neighborizer).

Only one person will get each ability anyway, so it isn't a waste. It's a waste if scum gets it rather than town.

All of those are pretty bad. Modern Era will be better.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

And like the whole shit about how I said I wasn't comfortable getting reads because not everyone posted = I am scum, is really bullshit because I have made a good chunk of reads so far this game.

You pushed a scumread here? Where?

You have made like 2 townreads?

He attempted to push me I think.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

People need to no build to ve able to beat scum that didnt build anything on the good wonders tomorrow

We have some abilities that are good though, like The Hanging Gardens (doctor), Stonehenge (death public cop), Statue of Zeus (self redirector), and maybe Mausoleum of Halicarnassum (neighborizer).

Only one person will get each ability anyway, so it isn't a waste. It's a waste if scum gets it rather than town.

All of those are pretty bad. Modern Era will be better.

Doctor and Death Public Cop aren't bad. Look how many players we have.

Doctor is salvageable but DPC is just going to help scum figure out who to kill.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Everyone pick Tree Stump and we'll be alright.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Then we'll just find them and lynch 'em.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Bee: What do you think of The DEO?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Bee probably isn't scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Feels like Kyouko should have more scum reads than he currently does.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What exactly do you want from Kyouko? I rather force ooba and ABR to talk.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We could just lynch Spiffy, maybe it might clear Yuri?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Nah if he's scum he could be trying to get on the right side of the lynch since he's been finding ways to avoid the wagon.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Long days favor scum.

Lynch Yuri today and then come back with a few more reasons for your scum reads tomorrow.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not touching today: A&N, Bee, Caesar, Drix, Elbrin, Frog, Kyouko, Max, Nero, ooba, Sondam, and PV

[Lil Uzi Vert]

ABR is not playing dumb, not even close.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not touching today: A&N, Bee,

Caesar

, Drix,

Elbrin

, Frog,

Kyouko

, Max, Nero,

ooba

, Sondam, and PV

If you want to set the standard at "providing minimally acceptable content to not be lynched today", can you provide a sentence or two on why the bolded have made the list?

I've ignored most of Caesar's posts because Pine is just being purposely cringe and I want to see what the Aero head has to say.

Elbrin because his catch-up posts feel genuine rather than just rushed and thrown together to make it seem like he's been busy.

There is not enough content from ooba for anyone to want him lynched today.

Kyouko because I can read him fairly easily and I understood where he was coming from when he explained why he didn't want to be a part of the Yuri wagon.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

He's been trying, it just hasn't been enough for me to write him off as town. The scum reads on him feel like people haven't taken the time to review his ISO.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

ooba will probably be replaced to be honest.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Friendly reminder that Notice is still scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

ooba will probably be replaced to be honest.

Day needs to last long enough for this to happen, even if the sub reads at night. In Mass Effect Mafia, due to the mods rules, town kept quicklynching for like 5 days thus I could not replace ooba.

Are you down for chatting with Math about Notice? Two rules though. Notice read cannot be conditioned on Vecna's alignment and Math cannot discredit you by saying you are scum.

Yeah I'm down.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why is Leon still on Frog?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

1026, 1043, 1133, and 1134.

Frog also made a good point about multi-ball.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The hope is that Drix is the legend he says he is and scum are forced to kill him

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

This is so stupid after a long time of sheer silence I doubt Mastina would allow something this derptastic. Furthermore JaeReed asks a question of where you have done this and you don't answer. He is trying to figure out why you are saying what you are and if it is normal for you. He is trying to ascertain your meta. A doubtcast is when you intentionally try to make someone look bad. JaeReed reads off of meta and a smudge of logic but mostly emotions and meta. That question demonstrates a JaeReed Town mindset.

I believe they asked me if I've ever done it before to try to paint a picture to the rest of the town that I'm bluffing. There is no town motivation for that when it was clear my issue. If they read off of meta, why didn't they do a dive for themselves? Why ask a question that is just going to force someone to double check anyway? The question didn't need to be asked because it's clear I don't believe that someone could have missed what they're saying they missed.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

That's not doubt casting. That's asking for a game where you've done the same so I know if it's a personality trait or my scumtell. I've caught scum before for pushing on slips that aren't actually slips. I've also correctly identified town doing it as opposed to scum doing it before. It would help to know if you've done it before as town.

I'm trying to tell you I skimmed it when I c/p'ed it to the hydra pt to discuss with mastina when she had the time. And I don't dumb tell. I've chewed out a previous hydra partner for doing it before, and that was when we were actually scum. I very rarely gambit, I don't dumbtell, and I almost always have a red flag when someone tries to push a non-slip as a scumslip.

And yes, masons and neighbours can use daytalk to devastating effect. So can scum. Ask MathBlade.

I probably haven't to be honest.

See I mean that sounds believable but at the same time, the fact that you just said you copied and pasted it, means it was highlighted and that you probably took another look at it before dumping it into the Hydra PT. If so, if you're town, you would realize there would be no reason to discuss it.

**Keep your promise (breathes in) **

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

I find it frustrating that you seem to be scumreading JaeReed for answering the question you asked then saying there is no reason to talk about it.

There answer proves they lied. There is no way you skimmed it after you said you copied and pasted it into a PT.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

That's not doubt casting. That's asking for a game where you've done the same so I know if it's a personality trait or my scumtell. I've caught scum before for pushing on slips that aren't actually slips. I've also correctly identified town doing it as opposed to scum doing it before. It would help to know if you've done it before as town.

I'm trying to tell you I skimmed it when I c/p'ed it to the hydra pt to discuss with mastina when she had the time. And I don't dumb tell. I've chewed out a previous hydra partner for doing it before, and that was when we were actually scum. I very rarely gambit, I don't dumbtell, and I almost always have a red flag when someone tries to push a non-slip as a scumslip.

And yes, masons and neighbours can use daytalk to devastating effect. So can scum. Ask MathBlade.

I probably haven't to be honest.

See I mean that sounds believable but at the same time, the fact that you just said you copied and pasted it, means it was highlighted and that you probably took another look at it before dumping it into the Hydra PT. If so, if you're town, you would realize there would be no reason to discuss it.

**Keep your promise (breathes in) **

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

I find it frustrating that you seem to be scumreading JaeReed for answering the question you asked then saying there is no reason to talk about it.

Their answer proves they lied. There is no way they skimmed it after they said they copied and pasted it into a PT.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Listen, Notice is scum. Look at what you they tried to sell me and Ali last night. Especially after they told us they copied and pasted the description of the Wonder. Copied and pasted it. That means they highlighted and right clicked! No way in hell could they've not have read the non-town part! They're scum that fucked up, it happens.

EBWOP.

The first post was unreadable to me for the longest time except the arts and sciences bit. It depends on what got fixed when and if they could read it. Just looked like a black box to me. I spent a good minute tapping it trying to make a wonder link appear til others commented it was hard to read text. It would depend on what came up on their clipboard. JaeReed not seeing/seeing it argument is NAI especially with computers in foreign countries display different websites differently.

~~Math

It is 2017.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

That's not doubt casting. That's asking for a game where you've done the same so I know if it's a personality trait or my scumtell. I've caught scum before for pushing on slips that aren't actually slips. I've also correctly identified town doing it as opposed to scum doing it before. It would help to know if you've done it before as town.

I'm trying to tell you I skimmed it when I c/p'ed it to the hydra pt to discuss with mastina when she had the time. And I don't dumb tell. I've chewed out a previous hydra partner for doing it before, and that was when we were actually scum. I very rarely gambit, I don't dumbtell, and I almost always have a red flag when someone tries to push a non-slip as a scumslip.

And yes, masons and neighbours can use daytalk to devastating effect. So can scum. Ask MathBlade.

I probably haven't to be honest.

See I mean that sounds believable but at the same time, the fact that you just said you copied and pasted it, means it was highlighted and that you probably took another look at it before dumping it into the Hydra PT. If so, if you're town, you would realize there would be no reason to discuss it.

**Keep your promise (breathes in) **

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

I find it frustrating that you seem to be scumreading JaeReed for answering the question you asked then saying there is no reason to talk about it.

There answer proves they lied. There is no way you skimmed it after you said you copied and pasted it into a PT.

Then call me a liar because I have done it before several times with hold and press select all and then paste. This is something you don't do. However I am used to copying and pasting massive blocks of text without reading fist.

~~Math

People don't copy and paste things they've skimmed. The description of the Wonder isn't long either.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We could just lynch Spiffy, maybe it might clear Yuri?

Why do you bring this up when you haven't really mentioned me all day.

Are you scum reading me?

Why would I've had to mention you to want to lynch you?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Pushing someone because of them misreading is a he-said she-said that is fruitless to base an entire read off.

They could've have possibly misread is what I'm getting at.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Pushing someone because of them misreading is a he-said she-said that is fruitless to base an entire read off.

They could not have possibly misread is what I'm getting at.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You are trying to tell me that someone saw something worthy of being discussed in a PT later, copied and pasted said thing (meaning highlighted and right clicked), and then dumped said thing that probably was double checked to make sure what they wanted to discuss was the only thing copied in a PT misread?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's bull.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No because there is nothing unclear about who can only benefit from the Wonder. Non-town is either a scum faction or a third-party one. There is no reason for town to want to discuss day chat, especially in private.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You are trying to tell me that someone saw something worthy of being discussed in a PT later, copied and pasted said thing (meaning highlighted and right clicked), and then dumped said thing that probably was double checked to make sure what they wanted to discuss was the only thing copied in a PT misread?

What I am saying is that I have no way of knowing what JaeReed could and could not see and therefore anything further than that is fruit from the poisonous tree.

~~Math

Do you agree that if someone deemed a single thing worthy of being copied that is highly unlikely they missed the non-town part?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Context though.

Scum don't have day chat this game but could get it. Why would town want to privately discuss that scum could possibly get day chat?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No because there is nothing unclear about who can only benefit from the Wonder. Non-town is either a scum faction or a third-party one. There is no reason for town to want to discuss day chat, especially in private.

A masonry popping up later is a possibility.

I agree, it's an issue.

Yet, I struggle to see the scum motivation in what you're arguing. I find it more likely JaeReed mafe a stupid error and got hostile in an unwarranted manner after being called out.

Without the scum motivation, I cannot get there. Try an angle without the slip please.

They tried to dumb tell.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Uzi, suppose JaeReed did make an impossible mistake, what is their alignment?

@Math, What is JaeReed's alignment if they did not make a mistake?

Null.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

But there is no way they didn't see and the fact that they are trying to pass it off as such is ridiculous.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Notice: Would you believe me if I was in your position?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Or we could just lynch Spiffy.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Or we could just lynch Spiffy.

I asked you earlier if you were scum reading me and you ignored me. Now I see that you are.

Please elaborate.

Answer 2049 first.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Okay I have a deal for the Titus head when Math is not around.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Okay I have a deal for the Titus head when Math is not around.

That's now.

I agree to move Notice to null if they do the same for Vecna.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We could just lynch Spiffy, maybe it might clear Yuri?

Why do you bring this up when you haven't really mentioned me all day.

Are you scum reading me?

Why would I've had to mention you to want to lynch you?

That's not what I was fucking saying.

Lynching me as a means to clear Yuri is one of the most idiotic things I've read in the game so far (as Frogger pointed out) so this coming from someone who hasn't mentioned me at all doesn't make any sense.

Now explain why you're scum reading me.

It's not idiotic when you take into account that your read on Bee is mostly based off of meta and the other ones you have had have been pretty bad as well.

So you seem overly concerned with the thought of me scum reading you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

That moment where school get's flooded and you get to leave early.
Fun

-Nebby

Stay in school

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We could just lynch Spiffy, maybe it might clear Yuri?

Why do you bring this up when you haven't really mentioned me all day.

Are you scum reading me?

Why would I've had to mention you to want to lynch you?

That's not what I was fucking saying.

Lynching me as a means to clear Yuri is one of the most idiotic things I've read in the game so far (as Frogger pointed out) so this coming from someone who hasn't mentioned me at all doesn't make any sense.

Now explain why you're scum reading me.

It's not idiotic when you take into account that your read on Bee is mostly based off of meta and the other ones you have had have been pretty bad as well.

So you seem overly concerned with the thought of me scum reading you.

There are several points I have made about beeboy that have nothing to do with meta. Which other reads do you think are "bad"?

And please get off your high horse. I am asking you to elaborate on a read that come out of nowhere and you had yet to justify. It being on me doesn't make a difference.

But it all stems from that meta read to be honest. Max and Kyouko push were pretty bad.

And I'm asking you why are you so concerned. You don't seem to be sweating everyone else as hard who has shown doubt about you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Pine could you stop

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Like Spiffy was going hard for Bee and basically was screaming for everyone to join him and end the day early and now he wants us to take our foot off the gas.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Kyouko hasn't even scratched the surface compared to Yuri.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't know what to post rn.

VOTE: Sondam

Huh?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

People need to get off A&N.

@Bee and Max: Please meta dive Alisae.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Nero you were in 199, you have no excuse.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math: I have a case on Yuri, he's aware of what it is and had nothing to say after I pointed it out to him. I stopped what I was doing because I realized I was not only making it uncomfortable for him but for other people as well. I didn't give up on Notice, people just don't want to lynch solely off of my case so I've stopped pushing there.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math: Honestly I don't even know what to say to it all because it's just so terribly wrong.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The issue I have Spiffy is that a lot of the reasoning for his votes he's casted so far just seem weak.

Spiffy's reasoning for voting Nero was really vague and quite safe and easy. He was essentially accusing him of blending in but I'm pretty sure if you look hard enough, you can accuse about 90% of the players in this game of the same thing.

Spiffy's vote for Max just felt like an overreaction rather than thinking about things critically and realizing that Max was probably just very misguided since one of the reasons Max voted for him was because of how he was treating his scum reads in a time where everyone was unable to cast a vote.

I've already went into how I hate that the Bee read is based off meta and I think someone said earlier that they have more recent meta on Bee that kind of matches how he's been playing in this game. I also can't shake the gut feeling that Bee really can't get into the game ever since he was basically ignored during the Resolution phase.

The Kyouko vote is bad as well because he doesn't provide enough examples of what he accuses him of doing and the example he did provide isn't as fringe as he describes it. The thing I was doing with Yuri was extreme but it got the result I wanted and that was for the focus to be on him. I can see someone like Kyouko who's been stuck in catch-up mode for a while and just skimming think that my entire case on him was me knowing this isn't town game and wanting to find his own reasoning for voting Yuri if it came down to it. Spiffy at no point seems to want to take that into account or even ask if this is how Kyouko comes off to people.

--

Also stop saying I should stop saying I want to lynch him. I've had doubts about him ever since the Resolution phase and I will push him if I want to.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The issue I have Spiffy is that a lot of the reasoning for his votes he's casted so far just seem weak.

Spiffy's reasoning for voting Nero was really vague and quite safe and easy. He was essentially accusing him of blending in but I'm pretty sure if you look hard enough, you can accuse about 90% of the players in this game of the same thing.

Spiffy's vote for Max just felt like an overreaction rather than thinking about things critically and realizing that Max was probably just very misguided since one of the reasons Max voted for him was because of how he was treating his scum reads in a time where everyone was unable to cast a vote.

I've already went into how I hate that the Bee read is based off meta and I think someone said earlier that they have more recent meta on Bee that kind of matches how he's been playing in this game. I also can't shake the gut feeling that Bee really can't get into the game ever since he was basically ignored during the Resolution phase.

The Kyouko vote is bad as well because he doesn't provide enough examples of what he accuses him of doing and the example he did provide isn't as fringe as he describes it. The thing I was doing with Yuri was extreme but it got the result I wanted and that was for the focus to be on him. I can see someone like Kyouko who's been stuck in catch-up mode for a while and just skimming think that my entire case on him was me knowing this isn't town game and wanting to find his own reasoning for voting Yuri if it came down to it. Spiffy at no point seems to want to take that into account or even ask if this is how Kyouko comes off to people.

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Also stop saying I should stop saying I want to lynch him. I've had doubts about him ever since the Resolution phase and I will push him if I want to.

You and I are largely in sync right now. Can you deal with Sodham? I cannot tell if scum or just paranoid. Strongly leaning scum but I don't want to confbias and I cannot quite have a full talk with them.

I have no issues with the Maria head because I think this is their town game. Maria likes to do a lot more ATE, play confused, not read and even openly brag about not reading when she's scum. As town she's more serious and in a don't give a fuck mode and I see a lot of that here. It's really just Gerry that's the problem. I don't know what to make of him because I think at a glance he's kind of overblown the slip thing but that's kind of hypocritical for me to say since you can argue I've done the same with Notice. I think you should take a step back and see what they do, mainly what Gerry does when he's not hung on you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Mr. Ceasar usually lurks a lot more as scum so we'll see how that goes.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Alisae: We told you to meta dive Alisae.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math: I try but you're so fixated it's hard to keep trying. I'm very patient but after a certain point I just opt to work around people.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math: I try but you're so fixated it's hard to keep trying. I'm very patient but after a certain point I just opt to work around people.

Uzi why aren't you voting for notice it's upsetting me

It's not going to go through sadly because people think the slip was too sloppy

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What Math doesn't understand is we don't need her to push any agenda through

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math: No I wouldn't get traction because I am town. People who've seen my scum game no this isn't it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What Math doesn't understand is we don't need her to push any agenda through

lol thank you for

finally

admitting you have an agenda and pocketed Titus.

Wow. Never thought I would hear that on D1. Thought I would have to rip it out of you D3 or 4.

~~Math

Lol having and pushing an agenda is NAI..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math: No I wouldn't get traction because I am town. People who've seen my scum game know this isn't it.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Never even said I had one, I'm just saying that if we have to tune you out we will.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Elbrin: I'm scum reading Yuri just as much as Notice. I can do either at this point but its clear that Yuri is more likely to go through today than Notice.

@Math: My agenda is to fine scum and I will ignore you to do that if I have to. I don't have the time or energy to attempt to pocket Titus and I wouldn't even try to as scum because it's better to feed into her moon logic than attempt to pocket her. Also None was the best choice overall and we drilled that explanation through the heads of those that opposed it. I'm sorry you couldn't see it.

@Titus: I'm cool with Leon, Yuri, Notice, and Spiffy. I think we've have gotten everything we can out of today.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It is

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Forum needs an arcade

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol I know what the word agenda means

List of things to do when it comes to scum hunting:

1.) Question
2.) Look at motive
3.) Look at interactions
4.) Repeat Step 1
5.) Evaluate

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Notice is not town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math: We have a different definition of the word.

Excluding people who are in their own world is not an agenda, it is just a simply way to make the game healthier not only for me but for everyone else involved. Pushing agendas and declaring people off limits for a day or until the game is over on D1 can work if you give people space and room to operate. I was given that with Yuri because no one bothered to step in and we're now one step closer to lynching scum because of it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@A&N: Vecna is most likely town. I encourage you to all to look at PyP and compare.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm not tunneling, I'm just really confident in my reads because I feel I am pretty good at reading people.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Stop calling Nero Jesus

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math: We're honestly not trying to make it a popularity contest, we're just speaking from our own experiences because we've been burned too many times putting our faith into you two. I'm not going to just ignore the experiences I've had with you and Titus because a player who joined this site four or fives years ago says it's worth dealing with the headaches.

Regardless, each game is different. I approached this game for the most part the same way I do every other one. I just took one look at the Resolutions and determined that None was the best overall because I know first hand now how dangerous it is to make scum's job easier. There were quite a few reasons I was able to live to Day 6 in PyP. One of those reasons were information. Too much of it was gift wrapped to me and the rest of the scum team. We didn't have to work for it, it was just handed to us and we took town for a ride. I do not want a repeat of that.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol I don't lurk period.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lil_Uzi_Vert

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol Ali thinks he can read me

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yeah I need to update it some and probably link it in my sig

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Math No. IRL are things. I go to school and work.

I don't lurk, I always replace out if I'm not interested in a game and I find lurking as scum cheap.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No 92 is me talking about how dangerously wrong the neighbor role can go, especially with someone as paranoid as Ali.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We can just lynch ABR tommorow.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Creature: Get back on Yuri

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not buying your fake read on me

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I hate the "oh we'll just lynch him the next day no biggie!" Line up lynches more ty
~Maria

Town's supposed to focus on getting all scum, not just one.

I agree so why is he lynching 2 town
~Maria

How do you know they're town?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No such thing as stupid questions, just stupid people. You're looking like you're apart of that group right now.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I am obviously asking you to explain why you're town reading them

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No I'm not going to chill, I don't believe Maria is actually scum reading me.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I am obviously asking you to explain why you're town reading them

You didn't say that at all

Still not saying how you know.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's fine, I can work around you too and then lynch you if I'm not satisfied with Gerry.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol Creature

[Lil Uzi Vert]

34 posts is enough.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Compared to ooba

[Lil Uzi Vert]

*inb4 name already in use*

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You won't vote me again Maria.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You won't vote me again Maria.

I liked you better when you didn't have a pair
~Maria

[Lil Uzi Vert]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

Why are you town reading him so strongly?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Spiffy probably isn't town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

Why are you town reading him so strongly?

Because he's making sense

Examples?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Spiffy probably isn't town.

You probably need to stop posting.

Maybe after you're lynched.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not doing Bee today.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You know this could've ended today..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Could have ended yesterday too and we would've now been one day closer to Day 2

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We can just lynch Spiffy today.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Or we can wait till Pine is forced to replace in for the hydra and start playing.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We can just lynch Spiffy today.

Fucking stop this. Spiffeh is town and your not helping anything right now

Nah.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Spiffeh

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not going to help scum by giving you reads Ali.

Did Mala siteflake?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Seems like she went into hiding after I implied I was scum reading her.

By helping them figure out who to night kill.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Scum will night kill me because they will never be able to get me lynched and I had soft a PR a while back.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't buy that Ali, I've seen her quit before as scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: ABR

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maria still has a fake read me on and that recent vote was just a vote from someone who was looking for a wagon that would gain traction.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maria still has a fake read on me and that recent vote was just a vote from someone who was looking for a wagon that would gain traction.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not doing Caesar either.

My picks today are ABR, Leon, Notice, Spiffy, and Yuri.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Caesar isn't going to go through, it will get to about 7-8 and then people will get annoyed they still aren't here.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

They'll be more investigative like Wonders and we can cop Caesar if need be.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lazy town haven't hammered anything and I doubt they will hammer Caesar once they wake up.

We had scum by the balls and now we have to wait another 4-5 days for what? A policy lynch? A no lynch?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Taking out useless slots doesn't do anything, it would've been like lynching Magna's slot in PyP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm not trying to block out I'm just frustrated that Yuri got derailed.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Yuri

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Ignore Maria

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We can wagon you until you shut up.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Can we lynch real scum Luv or are we gonna keep up this circle jerk we have going on and just lynch town Yuri the fact the bee wagon is hard semi worries me aswell makes me think a lot of scum aren't getting votes
~maria

LUV is not an option today.

There literally isn't enough support in the game for it to happen right now.

He said he softed a PR in a PRless game.

LOL

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This isn't playing dumb or lynchbaity, this is scum

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I took a page out of Ali's book and showed him how reaction testing is done. I got what I wanted and I'm sure one of ABR or Sondam is scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Look at how Sondam jumped on my wagon and then what I said about it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

But my read is fake LUV right!

It is, you confirmed it when you just voted for me again a while ago.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

But my read is fake LUV right!

It is, you confirmed it when you just voted for me again a while ago.

My read on you was never fake and the way you keep saying it is in a way to discredit me is laughable I don't even know where you got that idea
~Maria

I have not once tried to smear you or shame your other reads so I don't know where this is coming from.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maria I'm town and you know this.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why the change El?

I want 48 hours of not having to play this game


Pedit; just this simple posted has resulted in 7 consecutive pedits. I can't get a fucking word in edgewise

Blame everyone who wasn't on the Yuri wagon when he was at L-2.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Blame everyone who wasn't on the Yuri wagon when he was at L-2.

What about those that derailed the Yuri wagon?

And that too, which is why Spiffy is probably scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm not scum reading anyone because they disagree with me..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

oh you phrased it wierdly and I got confused.
-Nebby

When I get frustrated, my writing goes to shit.

I can sympathize

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I could go for some Mac and Cheese actually.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Nebby don't talk to me about Beeboy
-LUV

Fixed.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yuri talk to me about Beeboy
-Nebby

kill it and stop asking questions u should know the answer too

tbh I forgot you were voting them so I retract this.

Nebby don't talk to me about Beeboy
-LUV

Fixed.

You're dodging the question.

-Nebby

I said I'm not voting for bee today, that should tell you where I'm at with him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yuri talk to me about Beeboy
-Nebby

kill it and stop asking questions u should know the answer too

tbh I forgot you were voting them so I retract this.

Nebby don't talk to me about Beeboy
-LUV

Fixed.

You're dodging the question.

-Nebby

I said I'm not voting for bee today, that should tell you where I'm at with him.

Beeboy knows what pressure looks like but he isn't doing that pressure stuff.
Beeboy knows what scumhunting looks like but he isn't doing that stuff.
Why are you townreading him?
-Nebby

Didn't say I was town reading him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Sondam talk to me about Beeboy
-Nebby
pedit: Then why are you not willing to vote him?

Because I have actual scum reads

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Didn't say I was town reading him.

dude tf

if he's null say null, dont say 'i dont want him lynched today and that should tell you everything' bc it so does not

No, I'm tired. That was pretty self explanatory.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Sondam talk to me about Beeboy
-Nebby
pedit: Then why are you not willing to vote him?

Because I have actual scum reads

What are they and why are they shit?
-Nebby

If you're already know they're shit why do you want me to say them again?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Need to process things but would gladly hamme.

LPOK AT ME CONTRADICT MYSELF

Sound like you're already gone

[Lil Uzi Vert]

ABR won't go through without A&N. I'm sure of it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Illogical Rampage.

Best Town Performance.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

50 more pages woooo

[Lil Uzi Vert]

50 more pages woooo

[Lil Uzi Vert]

50 more pages woooo

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: ABR

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If I was voting town for being dumb, guess who would be first on my list. Guess.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

wtf is even going on anymore.
-Nebby

The results of a day that has ran its course.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Bet Leon is cracking up right now.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

50 more pages woooo

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We can lynch you instead.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LOL

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We can lynch you instead.

Lol @ you acting like you have any fucking authority

Has Bee ever reached 8?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Better win something

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We're all just gonna hop on Bee and he is going to come in and town it up and then we'll all just hop off again

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I know a place where you never get harmed. A magical place with magical charms. Indoors, indoors, innn-doors.. take it away Ali.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Creature can you get off Dave lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Need updated VC

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Creature self voting lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

aw the edit

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Kyouko is probably at another Melee tourney right now

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Just notice Yuri didn't bring back anyone any mac and cheese.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have gone into full off topic posting mode so just gonna wait it out.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Ali: You getting the new Zelda game?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Ali: What?! I don't even know what to say right now.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Vecna has never rushed to my aid ever this game so I'm not sure what you're on about.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What you quoted is not someone defending me, it is an observation that was pointed out that really shouldn't have been since me and Maria were on the same team in PyP!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LOL

[Lil Uzi Vert]

How about them Knicks?