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no no claiming!!!
"here scum have a bunch of info to work with!"
VOTE: creature
this is not an RVS vote ^ - even just considering the idea outloud is a bad idea because in a group this large it is very possible someone will not be thinking or knowing why what they share could be bad and be like "oh yeah I got a queen active atm" or some shit and NO ! no talking about cards or abilities at all
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what'd you expect?In post 54, MariaR wrote:This game isn't what I expected it to be...-
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ooof, I don't even know how to approach this comment almost! - buddying, talking of impossibilities (masonry between us impossible, unless we both copped each other) that can come off as "joking" because they're impossible, yet, still presenting the "heyyy, let's be town together!" mentality - post comes off scummy, I must say (I make so many friends calling everyone scummy!)In post 95, Titus wrote:Drealmerz, be in thread mason with me? We'll call our masonry the moon landing.-
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*dukes up* Let's go, alien scum!In post 110, SpyreX wrote:Help me.lynch dreal then-
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never heard the term so it seemed weird - I get put-off when I feel like someone is trying to give me a TR unwarrantedIn post 114, Titus wrote:
Hi. Like I care what it comes off. In thread masons are cool. It just means I townread you really hard. Actual masons is impossible. (Although I would have claimed that if it was.)In post 109, drealmerz7 wrote:
ooof, I don't even know how to approach this comment almost! - buddying, talking of impossibilities (masonry between us impossible, unless we both copped each other) that can come off as "joking" because they're impossible, yet, still presenting the "heyyy, let's be town together!" mentality - post comes off scummy, I must say (I make so many friends calling everyone scummy!)In post 95, Titus wrote:Drealmerz, be in thread mason with me? We'll call our masonry the moon landing.-
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thanks for that, the perspective definitely helpsIn post 134, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
He's basically always like this... and I actually think he's towntelling pretty hard.In post 125, drealmerz7 wrote:I don't think creature and I have never played a completed game together before
As town he speaks whatever is on his mind and tries to brute force the setup or game. That's what his massclaim idea and paranoia about hated feels like - Spyrex basically articulated it, he's just looking at the list of cards and trying to figure out what scum may have picked.
Titus, I'm not really seeing drealmerz town, can you explain it a bit?
you can understand my aversion to his approach though, yes? I generally don't like to vote very early in a game, people giving such confidence in their reads so fast and feeling comfortable enough to make a vote takes more time for me, usually - here I got immediate scumpings and at the least, voted to express how seriously I take the issue of ability/role spec-
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1.) I too like thinking aloud (it gets me in trouble all of the time) and talking about all contingencies (I love setup talk) - but only so far - no roles or abilities, at all - balance, mechanics, excellentIn post 166, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
Not really? If you mean approach to the game in general, the thinking-aloud thing and trying to brute force through the game is something I do too. If you mean the massclaim idea, then yes I agree that that's a bad idea but Creature never really pushed for it, he just thought about it in the open.
2.) he didn't push for it, that's not what I find scummy (obviously because it's not there) - my aversion and SR comes from even suggesting the idea BECAUSE it could be a kind of a passive way to see if scum can get ANY information - someone who doesn't know better, someone who is excited that their queen is in play, even just 1 tiny thing, it could give the slightest bit of information up to scum, seemingly innocently enough, but it is something. "oh I wasn't ability-fishing I was just asking what ppl thought about mass-claiming, I didn't mean to cause 3 ppl to tell me 9 cards"
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We're at 1:4 standard but with the +3 makes it a town-lean game (by numbers which are normally then balanced by roles of course - but this is madness so the balance didn't happen in conjunction with the # decision by the mod)In post 261, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
Scum are at a disadvantage when it comes to role-madness (at least I think), so I'd agree that it's just anti-alignment but far more likely town imo.In post 252, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:@Giga: I just don't buy why he didn't try. I guess it's more anti-alignment if anything but it still pings me.
I can't help but keeping thinking that scum are at a decent disadvantage in this game and am trying to reconcile the balance of it - help appreciated. The best I can come up with is it will be harder to find them because they are fewer, but, that's not really reassuring to me. "great, we get to make more demoralizing mis-lynches!"-
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can you hold my hand and tell me WTF anyone would claim to have an allergy?In post 270, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:if people with allergies claim-
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*looks at you a little cock-eyed*In post 277, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
idk so a fruit vendor doesn't accidentally kill them?drealmerz7 wrote:
can you hold my hand and tell me WTF anyone would claim to have an allergy?In post 270, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:if people with allergies claim-
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interestingIn post 279, Titus wrote: Basically, if you fuck with an investigation, claim.
I think it depends case by case basis and should be by player-discretion what is best for the team
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23 player game, going to have a lot of content generate fastIn post 307, gerryoat wrote: it is when people speak 13 pages-
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waiting until everyone has checked in and read a good amount but I agree, not looking like a bad place to push moreIn post 324, gigabyteTroubadour wrote: still deciding how i feel about uzi in all honesty but he's not a bad vote
until more have said more
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that's 2 separate lines - here's a better edit
EBWOPed:
In post 343, drealmerz7 wrote:
waiting until everyone has checked in and read a good amount but I agree, not looking like a bad place to push moreIn post 324, gigabyteTroubadour wrote: still deciding how i feel about uzi in all honesty but he's not a bad vote
until more have said more:
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yeah that pings me pretty hard
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perhaps a litttttle over-reaction, but, I felt you were talking about things that were better for town not talked about, I did find it more anti-town than scummy, though, so,
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transcend, no you're not supposed to lie how you got your cards, you're supposed to try and be pro-town with your choices and just saying "ehh fuck whatever" doesn't seem very pro-town, you should have put some thought into it
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this ^In post 517, Fishythefish wrote:Not really. Town should be trying to find scum, and being honest about stuff - that's usually enough to end up looking townish. Scum, not being able to just tell the truth, have to think harder about their posts to look good. I think some of LUV's posts are the result of that kind of thinking.
also, when someone makes an argument as to why someone is likely scum, the proper course of action if you're going to respond to it, is a counterargument, not "nuh uh!" or the like
at least LUV is defending himself, those arguing against his lynch but not making arguments are smelly, imo - I can't help but think of the possibility that they are scum knowing the leading wagon is town and getting their towncred in under the gun in case he eventually gets lynched/flips (is it because I just don't agree with their read maybe?) - though with 23 I guess it's hardly much of a wagon at this point
ahh, hmm, a bit clarity is good, nice
In reflection I'm thinking maybe I should have just FoSed LUV at the point I voted, but I'm okay with it still and will leave it.
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no one specifically pings me of his defenders because of their defending, I'm specifically meaning the ppl who are saying his town blindly in response to arguments that he is scum with nothing to support their view - I just don't like that, ever, I guess
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metoo!In post 541, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
yes actually :)In post 538, drealmerz7 wrote:would you like that?
I took a break and now am back to get on it, and I see a handful of pages added at this point (of which I've not read at all), so,
I'm going to do a catchup first and then do this-
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D1 is not the day or time to go after lurker lynches (usually) sure, poke them and say HEY, quick being a lurk-fuck, but, unless there is nothing scummier going on on D1, they wait until D2 to get a hotpoker under the bum from me - on D1 they are LHF and easy targets for scum to push and hope to generate a lynch for. They give no good VCA / the flip tends to be useless if town or scum in reading anyone in regards to it (there's no meat) - you keep pinging me scummy, creature, despite everyone jumping on me for SRing you early saying you're towny - *shrug*In post 552, Titus wrote:Creature, your wanting lurker lynches doesn't sit well with me.
uhhh, and then I read this:
what? noooo - THEY ARE bad on D1 - see above ^ - D1 we should be focused on other things - generated meat/content and associations from ppl that seem the scummiest/most likely to be scumIn post 556, Creature wrote:"Lurker lynches are bad" aka Scum Hideout
no way! too early, huge gameIn post 568, Titus wrote:I like both major wagons ftr. We should try to consolidate.
multiple wagons are good good good!!! let them build naturally - at this point EVERYONE should just be voting their top SR - if they don't have one, fine, not voting yet is fine this early in this big of a game
patience in this game will be key I think - not rushing to shits, I mean, lots of ppl with lots of abilities, have to let things grow and ppl decided on what to do and everything
this seems off to me, of course everyone knows this, and it is WAAYYY early, your further push to consolidate pings moreIn post 574, Titus wrote: There's no rule to use the entire time.
nonsenseIn post 578, rb wrote: voting patterns r suk
maybe it's not an ability for you, but they are excellent to analyze, if you can
hmmm that seems about all relevant for now?, LUV stuff next
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then make the case as to why you think they are scum, of courseIn post 684, Creature wrote:
What if I think a lurker is scum?In post 683, drealmerz7 wrote:what? noooo - THEY ARE bad on D1 - see above ^ - D1 we should be focused on other things - generated meat/content and associations from ppl that seem the scummiest/most likely to be scum-
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@ Quipla - now that we know both K-Diamonds are in play, if Diamonds comes up in the trump, and 2 Lights Out Lynching abilities are in effect, does that make it 3 lynches in a Day? I know the passive abilities aren't stackable PER PLAYER and the Lights Out Lynching description says "town will be allowed 2", so figure they don't, but obviously it's just good to know for sure.-
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I am not caught up with this at all and won't be until at least tonight.
giga, I paused on doing what I was doing with LUV because I thought it might be inhibitive of things that could be useful/telling if I did it without letting things grow/evolve a bit more
big game - going to have to tackle it in bigger chunks at a time and less piece-meal-keep-up most of the time
for now since I am as behind as I am I'm (I'mIamIm) going to
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fucking hell ppls, that was like 20 pages of trash, and not even smelly trash that I can sort what stinks and what doesn't
just a bunch of worthless paper trash
removing my nulls and giving scumlean and townleans
scum
12 - Lil Uzi Vert
9 - Creature
26 - MariaR
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13 - Maxous
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5 - Fishythefish
13 - gigabyteTroubadour
town
not comfortable voting anyone atm, though I could probably be persuaded, but, it's early in the Day, patience is good to help things flesh out, am holding it for now
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miss you dearlyIn post 1271, SpyreX wrote:I'm gonna be quasi vla for a.bit-
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please keep your judgements of my sanity to yourselfIn post 1275, rb wrote:there's also literally no sane person who would scumread me in this game rn-
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equivocated that to him saying my reads suckIn post 1277, Creature wrote:Have decent reads ...-
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no shit I did that was the part I was referring to - what is your point? it is fucking clear I snipped the quote - it's right there for all to see - who cares?In post 1286, rb wrote:good thing u cut out half of his quote
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hahahaIn post 1289, rb wrote:wow dude its like u just subconsciously cant vote!!!-
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and as I reflect upon the game and my reads...rb harddefending LUV as town is starting to smell a bit
@giga (and everyone) - there is a notable one to start with at least, in rb, but it is someone who is claiming to never explain their town reads - seems convenient to me, and horribly scummy/anti-town play - even if true, that is the sort of shitplay that shouldn't stand. To me it just means that is the sort of player that likes to play scummy as town so that when they draw scum they don't have to explain their scummy play as anything but "I always play like this" - shiiiiit playstyle, and I can actually get around to PLing something like that depending how interfering / egregious it becomes-
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funny how I start to SR you, step up to your shit, and you go away, come back with this BS
yep, you can start moving right on up that scumpile
riiiiiightIn post 1304, rb wrote:...you've seen me singlehandedly destroy an entire scumteam but...
Its not ego ...
I forgot you have the power of 10 lynches - it's not a team game when you play!
I certainly had an issue with you not giving reads and how you played that game (and play the game in general), I even said as much then, multiple times probably. I even noted after the game was over about how if my reads hadn't been aligning with your votes, that we'd be having serious issues.In post 1305, rb wrote:Also drealmerz u had no problem with me not explaining townreads the last time we played, it's now an issue because....?
you are smart enough to know all of this and you're just being scum-tastic as I see it now
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pt.1 catchup (if I missed anything you'd like me to address, let me know)
I don't see how it is defensive at all, really. My view is that his approach+ hostility about my position is weak BS and feels like it could be scum trying to make me look nefarious when my position was outward and honest and reasonable at that point in the game. In general, anyone pushing anyone to vote that early in the game gets scumpings.In post 1329, Vecna wrote:
Over-defensive much?In post 1272, drealmerz7 wrote:the Day just started in a 23 player game, and rb giving me shit for not being comfortable voting currently?
he can go in the scumlean pile
Well you should know better to understand what it does and I am not sure I buy this excuse, paired with the "appreciate the advice...work on being less awkward" - oof that just sounds bad and fake and I could throw my vote here right now if I weren't so far behind.In post 1330, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I wasn't rolefishing. The thought just popped into my head after rereading the OP.In post 1327, Titus wrote:Well the fact you'd rolefish me so blatantly for starters.
Regardless of your alignment, you're AOK in my book. If you're having fun, roll with it. Rome isn't built in a day. I will retool my theories and hypothesis as data comes in, and I've been wrong before. Hubris is my weakness. Find yours and you'll be better too.
And thanks, I appreciate the advice. Forum posting is a struggle for me but I gotta work on being less awkward :lol:
wow you sound quite a bit like me. though I have gotten better at making cases the more I try (and the more I try to make them more succinct, which is often a problem. I have so many floating thoughts around my reads and how they interact, it is hard to slim it down into sentence structure.)In post 1333, kraska77 wrote:okay my scumreads are usually nothing great, but theres always this one strong gut scumread i have that people refuse to lynch for a long time and i have to yell to get them lynched and these always flip scum and this time it's trancend. i'll try to explain why he's scum although i know i really suck at making cases
I have to say even though I don't have a lot of experience with transcend, that this is how I was feeling as well (not the scumgut hardread like you have about it, but the "hmm, this transcend feels a bit stiff like he's trying to copy how he normally would be") - I temper that with my limited experience but then paired with the actual other things from him, he still pings scummy, and like he's trying to sound town (I'll point out the next LAMIST post I see of his.)In post 1333, kraska77 wrote:
his first 5 posts are him posturing trying to copy his kooky town play, its really stiff stuff and i expect maria and giga to immediately pick up on this. im not sure why maria didnt?
*reads more of kraska case on transcend am liking what I'm hearing a lot*
I agree that IF transcend is scum that he would be ballsy enough to say "hey, I'm going to grab a scum card depending where I am in the draft and just explain it away as random.org - it will be a brick wall of reason no one will be able to break" etc. etc., and it's just so anti-town/scummy to do the random.org in the first place, yeah...*reads on*
hahaha scrolling slowly down and BOOM, the superlarge text of the vote on transcend, I laughed, and yeah, LUV and transcend at this point are still my top choices for scum
this slot continues to look bad but I will be patient with it because I think they are possibly just like this early and the shady behavior (or however to describe it, really) isn't NAI for them, but definitely keeping an eyeIn post 1341, MariaR wrote:Why governor?
I'm not going into detail cause role fish but I don't understand kraska :c
omg mariaR and transcend exchange pg. 54-55 is painful - scumbuddies?
I did not find that to be trying to instill any sort of mass claim either, it was clearly a mockery of it to meIn post 1373, MariaR wrote:
This wasn't me asking people to massclaim this was me mocking the people who already said to massclaim :neutral:In post 78, MariaR wrote:
*picks cards*In post 74, drealmerz7 wrote:
what'd you expect?In post 54, MariaR wrote:This game isn't what I expected it to be...
*scumhunts*
*sometime uses card*
*win game*
LET'S CLAIM HATED AND BAD EFFECTS D1 MASS CLAIM...
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I don't like the feel of it either but I'm not sure it is voteworthy yet, and not as voteworthy as others. Your jump from your hard transcend case to this feels odd.In post 1378, kraska77 wrote:Yeah Maria's overplaying the nonchalance :roll: don't mind lynching that first
VOTE: maria
ooof - after mariaR looking scummier and scummier, transcend pops in with a hard defend - scumbuddydefenderpinnngIn post 1399, Transcend wrote:but i think mariar's town
omg and this post isn't until the top ofthe next page - wtf both of them very much scumIn post 1400, MariaR wrote:Ty partner
it's not lining up lynches, way to misrep and make it look way worse than it is
it is absolutely viable strategy to map out potential avenues/paths of how things read/will read depending on various things - this is my fist ping for drone I should go back and check him definitely, if I get the time ever
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I'll vig you and transcend soon dwIn post 1407, MariaR wrote:I can't wait to be viggedomg yes please vig. them both!
seriously ffs look at all the pages ahead of me of this garbage...and rb isn't even involved, and, vedith, he's around somewhere to shitpost more too I'm sure, weeeeeeeeeeeeeee *in for the longhaul though hopefully regardless!!*In post 1415, kraska77 wrote:Okay u 2 made it clear ure not going to post anyhing meaningful so how about u stop posting altogether until u get rope? Coz ure just spamming the thread
It's sad that we can't all be town together in one game hmm :^(
It's page 57 now guys. Let's lynch one of transcend/maria before this thread becomes a bigger of a chore to read
tiring of this pushing a bit, if more of acase that Yu (that's General Yu!) see builds, build it, but what vecna has is weak-ass-shits and I'm getting pings here now where before I thought it was leaning on healthy paranoiaIn post 1458, Vecna wrote:If im right titus is likely the scum mastermind and its the very best possible d1 lynch
just got to card placed on top of deck post (#1465) - this is a good place to pause and post this ^ I think. I will then come back and continue on after a morning walk and stuffs. Please keep the shitposts to zero, thanks.-
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okay so I still have a bunch of pages to read to be fully caught up but I read the last few before EoD and I would like to kill (err lynch) someone on drone's wagon pls - D1 did not need to go that fast and I am all for not dilly-dallying on Days but that was reckless and like no real counterwagon in a 23p game on D1? ugh
LUV or milkshake are my tops but I think the entire pool of with a handful of MariaR, Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert, milkshake, Transcend are the scummiest from the list and warrant looking at
I had my vote parked here a while yesterday and took it off because I wasn't caught up, I think that was a mistake
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert