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Isn't it basically a free lynch since the SK could kill anyone? Like... I like corpses as much as I always do, but not when mafia gets a kill.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Hey like
If you think I got home and said I'm reading 17 pages of this shit
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Everything between pages 5 and 16 will remain a mystery
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I'd say I'm good at reading LLD but it turns out I'm garbage.
This strikes me as a bunch of townies talking, outside the mystery pages, but there's no stakes so it's hard to know.
Vote:total war
It's all just posturing until people are at risk, so this portion of the game is so low stakes I can't care.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Wouldn't the scum topic keep you better informed?In post 570, Papa Zito wrote:
guysIn post 567, Nahdia wrote:LLD, Cheetory, Toogeloo
Is there something you're waiting to happen before you vote or..?
look at this post
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Hey Dayne bad players can draw scum too. I mean yes if your scumreads are "all the baddies" you're doing it wrong, but this trap card nonsense is going to get you nuked and then you'll flip town and I'll be sad.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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@Dayne: scum might have opinions on setup. Scum might not have TOWN opinions on setup prepared. That's at best null.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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@Dayne: what you just described (analyzing a game mechanic from a fully scum perspective) is a huge scumtell.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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I'd ask what Ircher's percentages came from, but I'm doomed to be disappointed in the answer. I will elect to believe he's like a droid in Star Wars and is busy calculating the odds of his success. Which are... probably not high.
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Oh cool, tell me.
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None really. The game just started. And if you think I care about pregame posturing when nothing is at stake and no one can die, you're... accountant.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Can SAD explain to me what makes an interaction "forced"? What would prompt a "forced" interaction?
It's the sort of hollow rhetoric I see tossed around a lot, and I'm curious what it means in this context.
Not fully caught up and phone posting, some personal stuff happened to my roommate last night so I didn't have much time for mafia.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Hi so can someone nuke me so I don't have to read up.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Oh good, voting begins on page 58. So we can ignore everything before that as posturing.
Nadia gets Counterintelligence, which strikes me as extremely town. Why would Mafia even bid on that? Unless they really think she's such a weak player that she needs the stupid role for town points, there's no reason to do that. I don't think Nadia is that weak, I don't think scum would do that anyway. Comfortable.
LLD votes for SAD. I don't like that. SAD's one of the few people I had a town read on during the posturing portion of the game. Which... probably means nothing. It was a posturing portion of the game. Why, LLD, why? Oh wait I see, a completely pointless disagreement that gave me cancer. Am in intensive unit, please stand by.
Some nobody is posting. What a disaster. Lets ignore him.
Hmmm
Vote: Vaxkiller
I agree with Fate and Spy. Is an uncontroversial position here I see.
Mastin is scum. Sad
Ircher is town. EP and McMenno are voting him. Noted.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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@Cheetory:You're voting Vax. You're trying to explain to him why he's scum. He's not getting it. What do you expect, for him to turn around and go "well obviously I'm scum, you've convinced me?" No seriously, what's the point of explaining to Vax why he's scum, as opposed to either questioning him or talking to other townies? This is a very specific type of not productive.
GIF is some pretty damn cheeky scum in a game where most of everyone has nukes. Would be SHOCKED if the scum QT didn't have something like "please don't piss people off or you'll be nuked until you glow". So either he told his scum team to suck his dick, or he's just asshole town.
I'm impressed how in a 26 player game I seem to be reading about 8 fucking names for pages and pages. It says something.
I'm sad to say my wife is probably scum. Maybe.
Some case about UT by someone. Is irrelevant, UT has posted nothing during the only relevant phase of the game. Which is... a really bad sign actually. High posting during posturing, low posting during stakes is not designed to make me happy.
McMenno and ErrantParabola are still voting for Ircher. Would be willing to bet I could get minimum one scum flip by nuking both.
UT posts. It's not very effective. The crowd goes mild.
Half a Hydra takes a VLA. I struggle to comprehend what the mod should do about this or why it's a thing that should be posted in the game. Should the hydra only get half a prod? I mean what's even the point of this? Given the lolercoaster that is their content... why?
Mastin is scuuuuummmmmmmmm so scuuuuummmmmm so very scummmmmmmm please make her glow.
Cephrir is town and obvious cat is obvious.
TLDR: Please nuke Vax, Mastina, McMenno, Errant Parabola. Please look at Cheetory and try and figure out what's happening. Mastin voting UT made me very leery of that wagon. Guaranteed not a scumbus there. LLD good place for vote am SAD to say.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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You make being wrong an artform baby.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like this is the tail end of the interaction.In post 1505, Cheetory6 wrote:So you still don't understand what the issue is.
When I've literally laid it out and it's literally in the post that you're running around quoting from him?
You're already voting him. You're explaining to him why. Not to us. Scum communications aren't private anymore as I recall. I dunno, things like this just make me nervous ya dig?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Dayne Dayne, please don't tell people to fuck off when they ask perfectly reasonable questions about what is so townie about Vax's posts. Because... what is so townie about Vax's posts? If you're going to publically pitch a fit when people question you I'll shrug and nod when the nukes come for you.
If you really think he's town, sell me on why he is and why someone else is a better lynch. And why that person is Mastina.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Dayne Dayne, please don't tell people to fuck off when they ask perfectly reasonable questions about what is so townie about Vax's posts. Because... what is so townie about Vax's posts? If you're going to publically pitch a fit when people question you I'll shrug and nod when the nukes come for you.
If you really think he's town, sell me on why he is and why someone else is a better lynch. And why that person is Mastina.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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LLD what did we learn from PYP?
I think he's scum.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Okay I'm due a big write up tonight when I have a computer.
But why not Mastina?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like is she off the table for any reason besides no one wants to read her posts?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Page 99 killed my will to live, so this is a thing.In post 2483, Fate wrote:Thats not something to announce, thats an implicit SDC blood pact SpyreX.
I only say this outloud because I'm sure half the playerlist is no longer reading
I still really want Vaxkiller. In PYP we chose the investigative roles and the vigs as the most important things for the scum to get. That's why I am almost positive Nadia is town. We got two different townies bidding 100 on Ninja to deny it from scum, and scum didn't even bid on Ninja. And it was the same thing that happened the previous PYP. He was scummy before that, and this doesn't help at all. His list is 100% what I would expect quite a few scum to submit.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Mastina's vote on UT was opportunistic as fuck.
I'd much rather lynch her if that's the choice
But I'm unsure as to why we aren't doing Vax.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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It means he shall die in a nuclear fire.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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@SAD: That logic is terrible.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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@UT: So you want us to kill the person who actively isn't paying attention to this game over you, the person who passively isn't paying much attention and certainly isn't posting much of anything?
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This is honestly the vote count?
Balls to that.
Vote: Mastina
LLD is scum.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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See this isIn post 2584, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm with you on that, Reck.
My issue with joining the UT wagon is that I know UT can be a good player and I struggle to read him, and it feels very much, like I said prior, like a vanity wagon from you.
So I don't know to what Reck we're getting today. Is it Psychic Mafia Reck or is it like, off the mark Reck.
Cause I'll sheep fucking Psychic Mafia Reck all day.
But if even a little bit, this is driven by ego as opposed to confidence, I'd like to discuss another option with you.
Scumposting
Don't know what it says about anyone's alignment
She's too good for me to read the angle
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What's with your new title? Old one was better.
And nope, didn't consider it. Don't buuuyy it.
Lynch Mastina with me, worst case scenario is you won't have to feel bad about the fact you're not reading her walls.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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That's what, at DEFCON 1? In like another 200 pages?In post 2590, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
So your action when stating LLD is scum is to vote the player who stated they are nuking LLD?In post 2586, GreyICE wrote:This is honestly the vote count?
Balls to that.
Vote: Mastina
LLD is scum.
Whut?
I'm super happy calling two players scum when they're actively threatening to do something mean to each other a few days from now.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like I literally glanced at the numbers. If I have to summarize how depressed I am in general it's a 9.5, and this game adds about 3.5 to that. On a 1-10 scale. It at least beats the other game I was in, because I don't want to punch anyone in the face yet, but it's a whole lot of not much. So yeah, I thought you were voting SS or something.In post 2595, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I wonder how it is possible that you can manage to comment on the vote count (which contributes to the apathy about this game and also to making you look more disconnected from this game which is currently aiding in generating town reads on you), when you so clearly did not even read the vote count?
I mean, you might be able to explain not seeing my vote on Mastin by saying "oh it's a smaller wagon I didn't notice" but given you voted mastin in the very same post.... I'm not entirely certain that holds any water.
But are you a good source?In post 2630, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:LLD as an unbiased source I can tell you mastin has done almost nothing scummy this game.
Some anti town stuff? Sure. Some trolling? Sure. But scum motivated posts? I see almost nothing.
I mean an unbiased source could mean anything. If I programmed a computer to randomly spit out headlines it would be unbiased. Would it be good? No. Mastina is scum.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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I'm down.In post 2660, Cephrir wrote:Mcmenno lynch still very high quality
Well we're in agreement on one in three.In post 2661, Accountant wrote:not as high as S_S or UT or even mastina imoShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like if I have to pick the two leading ones I pick....
Nah, actually both of them are behind no lynch for me, because if they have nukes then that's more kills flying about in a way we can guide on day two, and because I have that little faith. I guess SS marginally edges out UT because he hasn't done anything for two days and that's bad, but I don't buy UT scum here.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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In post 2737, Ircher wrote:Counter: There is no such thing as true "randombess" on a computer (aside from entropy....)Spoiler: Not game relatedShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Fine.
VOTE: SS
Of the two UT is less ornery and posts more useful stuff. This day needs to end.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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So SS is scum.
That's nice to see.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Although who here is like "it's 90% likely this cop claim is complete bullshit, let's switch to the other leading wagon - I bet that was on scum too!"
Actually no seriously who thinks that. Can you explain your line of reasoning?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like honestly. There's a possibility of a cop+doctor in this setup. Do you think scum bid on counterintelligence? Hint: Nadia claimed it in about the first post of the game. WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY BID ON INSTEAD?
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Also is anyone impressed that both of the day 1 wagons were derailed by claim in a small town setup?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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'cause it feels like you just claimed SKShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Yeah but like motivation
Town want to find scum. Getting investigated doesn't find scum
Scum want to not be found. Getting investigated doesn't help that
SK wants to survive. A result of "not-mafia" helps.
And like... man, normally when you're polarizing you just tell them to go dunk their heads in the nearest magma flow.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Given all role PMs are open, there aren't actually any sekret reasons.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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But I can read all the possible deployments. You're just blowing smoke.
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Uh... did I say this guy was town at some point?In post 2860, Ircher wrote:Lambdelta is starting to look suspicious...
FoS Lamb
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Oh you think he's scum.
So you don't bus when you're scum.
And when you're town you have titus syndrome where your scumreads are always town
So like... yeah I dunno.
Vote: Mastina
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Oh man this is so awesome, I didn't know RC was town. And Zito. Thanks Mastina.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Hmmm... actually you'd have put at least one buddy in there.
So why Zito? Talk to me about him.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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We could just do this.
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Well dice say we should lynch ErrantParabola.
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Could we go back to Vax?
Anything other than "this guy made a claim that's really likely to be scum but we don't want to lynch him day 1 lets lynch the other wagon everyone was on"
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Cheetory two people were wagoned, two people claimed strong investigative roles in a bidding smalltown.In post 2951, Cheetory6 wrote:Actually isn't the worst possible roll for a lynch.
I'm kind of in the same headspace as most people that more claims is probably bad at this point though?
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No I want this lynch and I will fight for it.
Let me prepare a powerpoint presentation on why Mastina is scum.
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Please vote Mastina with me
Okay, I just need to show this to you guys visually, because this is so incredibly bad its hard to comprehend. This is the progression of reads over the course of five goddamn days.
I've taken the liberty of highlighting everything that isn't a minor shuffle. Although we could also highlight many inexplicable things on that list (ErrantParabola is a high town read).
This is a gap of five days. Five fucking days.
And mind you this is one of the few players who is NOT complaining about wanting the day to end, but says she has good reads. Does anything here look good, friends?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Hey Accountant guess what program I made that image in.
It's just hard to post a ppt as an image link.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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In post 2968, Cheetory6 wrote:Your powerpoint presentation needs more slides.SLIDE 2: VOTE MASTON
SLIDE 3: PROFIT
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Because I honestly missed it.
Why is this your first game relevant post since your claim?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Honestly SS? If you want content, make it yourself. Show me how you scumhunt, that's worth something. You answering my questions is worth nothing at all.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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