DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ
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Oh fuck.
I was supposed to draw scum this game.
This is DEFCON MAFIA. You're supposed to be a TROLL.
I don't know how to troll as town! Shit!
Uh...don't suppose someone here can teach me?
VOTE: Total War
That's the troll thing to do, right?-
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Is spamposting part of trolling as town?
I mean, that's the impression that I get.
So I suppose it's at this point I can mention random facts about my life. Right now, I'm actually only online because I've written a song, and now I want to record it, but my damn mom won't stop doing things which create noise that would interfere with a proper recording. (Not to mention, serve as a distraction.) I really want to record that thing, too. Especially if I drew scum.
Which I didn't.
Part of trolling as town is complaining you didn't roll scum, right?-
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Hmm, I should probably read the thread.
But that wouldn't be a troll thing to do.-
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I'll be fully honest, I'm expecting to be nuked the moment it's an option and I'll be thoroughly disappointed if this game actually requires ~effort~.
That's not the game *I* signed up for!-
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Well yes, but sadly I'm not MAFIA.In post 163, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Mastin's scum.-
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Shit, that's a SK claim.
Um.
Not MAFIA or SERIAL KILLER.-
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(To be actually serious for a second: I actually was going to try a new scumhunting method for this game, but the method I had in mind only works with a singular scumteam. This game openly has a serial killer, and a serial killer would throw off my new technique. That wouldn't have been a problem if I had drawn serial killer--which I actually was kinda hoping for, been a long time since I've been third party and I was looking forward to the challenge--but since I didn't, it would. It also wouldn't have been a problem if I had drawn scum, obviously, but if I had drawn scum I'd be doing...well, exactly what I'm doing right now, anyway.)-
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Fun factoid tho.
I am policy against vigs.
I signed up for a game where we do nothing but vig.
If I nuke someone, I am scum because I would never vig anyone.
If I defend myself from being nuked, I am scum because seriously, nobody deploys missile silos in defense mode except for scum who fear being lolvigged.
So basically, I'm scum no matter what!-
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I mean people who've seen me recently might even be able to guess what this new technique was going to be.
There aren't many things which can be ruined by a serial killer in scumhunting, after all.
The moment I drew town was the moment I knew I needed to go, "Fuck it. Not bothering with this shit."
Because, yeah. I had this whole plan worked out. I would sit in the background. I would be all silent. I would be around often enough that people wouldn't notice the lurking, but I wouldn't draw attention to myself because when I want to be, I actually am really good at blending into the background. But nope, not gonna do that.-
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Also my dad is an asshole, just ranting about that right here and now, he knows that I have misophonia specific to his eating but he's eating literallyrightnext to me and headphones only do so much to drown out the sound and ow my eardrums so prolly not gonna hang around for long.-
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I believe we established that long ago!In post 188, xRECKONERx wrote:are you talking to yourself, mastin-
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I believe we also established this long ago!In post 189, Nukebringer wrote:do people read mastins posts?-
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No, 1/3. I coulda been scum, plan would've held, just modified. I coulda been the SK, plan would've held beautifully. Only drawing town fucked over the fun of the lurking strategy, but who said anything about the ruined plan ruining the game?In post 195, Cheetory6 wrote:So you had a 2/3 shot of your plan being entirely ruined and effectively ruining the game for you?
I'm basically shitposting right now. That's not exactly ruining the game for ME.
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Btw I actually have gained reads in spite of not reading the first few pages. People here feel ridiculously transparent. (Well not all, I'll never claim to read one or two of the players in here, but some legit are seriously scum or obviously town.)
The main issue I'm having here is on whether I should tell you or not.
Because while telling you is technically pro-town...it also ruins the mood, kills the fun, and is an actual ~town~ thing to do and thus not the TROLL thing to do.-
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Oh there's absolutely nothing wrong with her scumreading me.In post 219, Cheetory6 wrote:mastin, can you talk a little about any kind of thoughts you have wrt LLD scumreading you here?
I expected to die early, at the hands of town, the moment I started posting. I condemned myself to that fate because I decided, "What the hell. It's Defcon mafia. Playing it seriously is missing the fucking point of playing." Meaning I'll die, and it'll be early, and it'll be mostly town doing so and they will be absolutely justified in having done so.
It also means that if I actually did bother to give a damn and give reads, they'd be ignored because I'm playing like a fucking village idiot right now so when I die they'll go "she deserved it", "she was asking for it", and so on and they'll be absolutely right to have done so. (Which again, is why I'm apologizing in advance. If I was wrong in my decision to not take this game seriously, I'll accept full blame, full consequences, for having ruined it for others who did.)
But all that said.
If you want to know what my stance on LLD is?
Let me say it right here and right now:
When LLD endgames you, I'll be the first to say "I fucking told you so", because this is me, telling you so. She's scum.-
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The answer is yes.In post 228, Cheetory6 wrote:Can you maybe try to articulate your read on LLD a little more clearly? Is it just tone/gut? Or are there specific posts/points/stances that you're taking issue with?
LLD is scum because she broadcasted her alignment as bright as a neon sign saying, "HAHAHA, FUCK YOU ALL I'M GOING TO WIN THIS GAME AND YOU ARE GONNAENJOYME WINNING THE GAME."-
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Question to Firebringer.
How exactly do you keep this up?
It honestly feels pretty exhausting for me to do. Like, I feel like I should be replying to more stuff with I dunno, a gif or something, spamming youtube videos, the like, but nothing is easily coming to mind.
I feel like the "sit back and laugh" part is easy enough, but the continuous posting part is harder. How do you pull it off in games?-
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Well the only reference I have on hand for what I'm doing is Left 4 Dead mafia. Which is pretty common knowledge to...basically this entire playerlist. There's not much to talk about in that regard. I have trolled as scum. As far as I can remember (could be mistaken), I have not trolled as town. It's a pretty simple formula there, no?In post 255, Cephrir wrote:The fact that LLD scumreading you did not spawn a self referential wall is very worrisome-
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Well I did make that post a while back where I publicly admitted I'm not the real mastin...In post 262, Cephrir wrote:Literally who are you and where did you hide mastins body-
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That implies I expect people to read my walls!In post 263, Nukebringer wrote:How do you wall post all the time and not see most of your posts are going to go unread?
The secret is I expect people to ignore me.
That way, when I'm proven right I can be all smug about it and point out how they should have followed me!-
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Well yes I am but I'm sadly not mafia.In post 268, Accountant wrote:What I am trying to say is that you are obvscum
Or the serial killer.-
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I mean, I just went about telling you how people won't read my posts, and you're a fine demonstration of this, because if you had, you wouldn't need to ask!In post 270, Accountant wrote:Why are you being a ham
I'm being a ham because I am not taking this game seriously.-
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Bit of a tangent here, but fully digressing, I typically don't really consider SKs to be scum anyway.In post 271, mastina wrote:
Well yes I am but I'm sadly not mafia.In post 268, Accountant wrote:What I am trying to say is that you are obvscum
Or the serial killer.-
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(I swear I won't do that again. I'm supposed to be trolling, not being intentionally obnoxious. Sorry.)-
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Now whoever said taking the game seriously and making wallposts were synonymous?In post 276, Nukebringer wrote:Mastin if your seriously not taking game serious why are you making ridiculously long posts?-
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(And no, the two are not synonymous.)In post 277, mastina wrote:(I swear I won't do that again. I'm supposed to be trolling, not being intentionally obnoxious. Sorry.)-
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(Basically trolling is in good spirits and fun and the point of a fucking Defcon game. Being obnoxious is annoying and gets in the way of being fun and the aim is for the former, not the latter.)-
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Actually, he gave 69.
I'd say that's about right.-
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(I mean, technically I did cheat a little, there were nine votes per line except the first and the last, so I did basic math of 9 * 6 and then counted those on the first and last rows, so it's not a 100% guaranteed accurate number of 69, but I'm fairly sure if you did manually count them out it WOULD come out to be 69 votes.)-
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So many broken hearts and we're not even starting the game yet.
What a wondrous way to begin.-
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Wouldn't be the first time, would it?In post 303, Accountant wrote:I think mastina is faking a troll ham attitude to cover her ass-
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The mastina you want is already here. I mean, I'm PMing reads as of this quote to the mod, because I'm not sharing them in here (I didn't think it felt appropriate), but I already told the mod yesterday (and told the mod to post said thing to spoiled players because I'll be pissed if that wasn't shared) exactly what I am doing.In post 500, Cephrir wrote:i want to see the mastina i know.
I know you're town here (so I'm not worried you're missing it), but I was honestly a bit surprised.
Of all the people here, I thought you'd be the first one to figure it out.
I AM the mastina you know.
Reconcile that with what I've posted thusfar.-
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My first post would've been identical as scum, yeah. Probably not as a serial killer, but as scum, definitely. And some of the complaining would be similar. But at some point, I'd have switched into the serial killer plan, modified for the new alignment. The trolling was something I had in store purely for drawing town.In post 501, Cephrir wrote:i imagine she probably planned on trolling before opening her role PM.-
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I respectfully disagree.In post 503, Papa Zito wrote:Doesn't matter, it's not nearly as clever as she seems to think it is and needs to be brought to an abrupt end.
It is rather clever, you just have to know the full picture which you either don't or are pretending not to.
Now whether it was something you think I should've done, that's a different matter, you're free to disagree and I already said I may owe you an apology, but it's clever regardless of whether it should be acceptable.-
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This is a given.In post 563, hiplop wrote:theres no way mastina survives more than like a day regardless of my read on her-
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If it's any way other than by town, I would be absolutely shocked. Not QUITE sure how it'll happen though. It's literally a cointoss between nuke and lynch. I did make a personal bet (which I PMed to the mod), but I'm not going to share it in here. Suffice to say I will die in the exact way I think UNLESS it is by scum.In post 571, hiplop wrote:I think mastin is fully aware shes gonna get bombed quite early on (though probably not in the same way she thinks)-
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Given time I can read McMenno. Too little content yet for me to be sure, but he's solidly in the middle of my list.In post 572, hiplop wrote:is the scumteam really nahdia mcmenno ut????
Nahdia's lowish on my list, but I wouldn't place them as my top priority for lynching. (Probably a good investigate though if we can ensure that there's no way to fuck with the investigation.) They're actually fifth-lowest on my incomplete, not yet quite accurate scumread list I have. (Any guesses for who the four stronger scumreads are?)
I have a feeling you're right about UT though.-
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Well LLD is scum, the question is whether GreyICE is or not. He's in dead null territory for me right now unfortunately, so no help there.In post 708, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh also I'm going to sheep LLD's read on GICE. I think unless they're both scum, she's prob telling the truth about that read regardless of her alignment.-
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No shit, sherlock.In post 741, Accountant wrote:so you're saying there's some grand scheme behind everything you're doing?
I'm MASTINA.
Of course I have a fucking plan.
That doesn't, mind you, mean it's a GOOD plan.
But I always HAVE a plan.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.that doesn't match up with what you said earlier in which you basically went "ha ha, I am clueless person, I don't know how to troll and shitpost so i'll just muck around and have fun "-
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Of course it wasn't!In post 742, Accountant wrote:
^ mastina was this genuine?In post 119, mastina wrote:This is DEFCON MAFIA. You're supposed to be a TROLL.
I don't know how to troll as town! Shit!
Uh...don't suppose someone here can teach me?
I explicitly told you that I would've posted the same thing as scum.
By implication, that means I planned to say it before entering the thread.
In other words: faked it. (Not sure what I would've done if I drew serial killer, but it'd have been something different.)
Now mind you.
The statement still stands.
I absolutely don't know how to troll as town. I basically am trying to be a shitty Firebringer copy.
But all the same, in spite of the truth behind the statement, the statement was fabricated in advance of the game.-
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For the curious, I told the mod already this, but basically...In post 755, Nukebringer wrote:arthur is town
Ser Arthur Dayne could literally claim scum, in-thread, and broadcast exactly how and why he is scum and what he is doing as scum...and I wouldn't believe him. He is my strongest townread, and as far as I'm concerned if he's scum we already lost.-
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Well I needed to do something to troll, because Defcon mafia demands some town trolling (it's a quite literal, "FUCK YOU ALL" type game when you get down to it), and me posting like YOU is...pretty much the best idea I could come up with for trolling? There's a pretty stark contrast between my normal style and yours, so me trying to be you is...at least a little trollish.In post 757, Nukebringer wrote:Why do you want to copy me?
At least that was the idea.-
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There's an easy answer for this.In post 767, MagnaofIllusion wrote:@LLD– why did you address hiplop’s “I want to nuke MoI” with chastisement of him instead of asking him why?-
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This is not a town player addressing a scumread, by the way.In post 834, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Is it that you're a useless sack of shit?
I like that answer and I know most people agree with me!
This is a player addressing a player they know to be town.
In a normal game I'd also add it'd serve as an attempt to discredit me, but since in this game I'm not playing like normal I can instead say it's an unnecessary comment in general.
Everyone here already knows that what I have done is shitty.
Commenting on it is ridiculously old news. Nobody needed to do it. Least of all, LLD who had prior advocated for roping me.-
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Nor am I.In post 875, xRECKONERx wrote:FYI I'm not going for missile silo-
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Fuck it.
LLD is scum.
UT is scum.
Ircher is scum.
Zito is scum.
The last scum is harder to determine, as is the terrorist. But RC is on my shortlist.
As is Vaxkiller.
I do have about an equal number of townreads, but I don't want to share those.
I just can't hold back from these, though.-
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He might not be!
He's just on the shortlist. The slot just below Nahdia. (Nahdia is seventh, RC is sixth, Vaxkiller is fifth.)-
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And therein lies your problem.In post 1059, Accountant wrote:Vaxkiller have made two posts, both of them NAI.
There were some definitive alignment clues in Vaxkiller's posts.
These clues were not, mind you, particularly solid! He's on the shortlist. Not on the scumlist. What was there was indicative of scum, but not strongly enough to BE scum, not off of just two posts anyway.-
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The beautiful thing about mafia games, especially NUKE THEM ALL ones, is you're allowed to be wrong!In post 1081, Nukebringer wrote:i don't know if i agree with any of these mastina, maybe rc?-
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Oh and by the way, SpyreX is pretty low on the list as well. He's at just above Nahdia.-
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That would be the town thing to do, wouldn't it?In post 1221, Accountant wrote:Explain your reasons-
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I basically INVENTED listmaking.In post 1240, Vaxkiller wrote:What other kinds of lists do you have?
So, whatever form of list you'd want, really. Townlist, scumlist, reads list, town to scum list (my default), hybridized reads/town to scum list...
Now the question is, what kind of lists would I actually share.
I might be willing to share that. I've got about equal numbers of townreads to scumreads in about equal yet opposite strengths. (SAD is my strongest townread and is just as strong if not stronger than my LLD scumread, Cephrir is my second-strongest townread and is just as strong if not stronger than my UT scumread, etc.) Though, it'd need some updating. I made it like twenty pages ago.
Also I have to admit I don't quite have the number of townreads I'd prefer. Ideally I'd have double the townreads to my scumreads, but I don't.-
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Ser Arthur Dayne
Cephrir
Cheetory
Nukebringer
Spiffeh
Reck
Accountant
Errantparabola
GiF
Something_smart
MoI
McMenno
Fate
GreyICE
hiplop
SpyreX
Nahdia
RC
Vaxkiller
Zito
Ircher
UT
LLD
Thereabouts.-
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Because no matter how much you might want to policy-nuke the slot, it won't change their alignment. (Takes one to know one!) This is Firebringer's towngame. Very, very blatantly so.In post 1275, Spiffeh wrote:mastin why is Nukebringer so high on your list?
Whether you like him or not, you're going to have to deal with that. If you want him gone, sure, nuke him. But if you want to nuke scum, you're aiming in the wrong place and once he flips you'll see as much.-
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I kinda wish my reads were all true but I'm expecting at least one wrong in there. I'm not THAT good.In post 1276, SpyreX wrote:Zito,ut,lld scum huh this should be good-
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Hey, it takes 48 hours for a nuke to land so you've got all of now and 48 hours into the game to work with me!In post 1284, Cephrir wrote:Sucks that the time mastin seems to fully believe in me is the time she's gonna be too dead to work with me
Maybe, just maybe, you should do something with that time.-
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What the hell.
I very specifically put in literally EVERY troop, in an order of most to least.
Given how many troops there were, I shoulda gotten at least ONE of them, especially since I figured...well.
Yaknow.
You'd be a bunch of nuke-happy gun-toting 'MURICANS.
Apparently not!
No Espionage. No Battleship. No Eavesdrop. No Aircraft Carrier. No Air Base. No Radar. No Dead Hand (my name for the failsafe). No Submarine. No Covert Ops Team. No Strategic Missile Defense. No Fighter. No Fallout Shelter. No Counterintelligence.
Literally EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Of them got picked. By someone in the game.
Because if so much as ONE of them had been left unpicked, I should have gotten something!-
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