Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

[yellowbaron]

@Foxbeebirdboy - You got to the thread first, and theoretically had your pick of nations. Why'd you go with Antiva?

~boring

[yellowbaron]

only 14 year old girls and Titus like Justin Bieber

I'm not even sure he's got the 14 year old girls anymore.

~boring

[yellowbaron]

I'd prefer to join either Tevinter Imperium or Orlais, if possible. Orlais has the current opening (if I didn't miss anything).

#join Orlais (but willing to move, if there's good reason)

~boring

[yellowbaron]

EBWOP

#join Orlais

~boring[

[yellowbaron]

Someone find me a good picture of justin bieber with the swooshy hair I can use as the avatar.

Spoiler:

http://cdn.mode.com/files/15492f7092490 ... 006441.jpg

[yellowbaron]

Is there anything important I need to read yet?

- rb

[yellowbaron]

Hiiiiiiiii Luna

[yellowbaron]

What nations are left to join?

-rb

[yellowbaron]

Okay I admit I'm guilty. I shot the Sheriff, but I did not shoot the Deputy.

-rb

p-edit: oh right, being a Hydra has awesome perks. I can stay in bed and still join Orlais.

[yellowbaron]

^ scum-claim.

-rb

[yellowbaron]

^ clum-scaim.

-rb

[yellowbaron]

Wtf don't ninja me.

[yellowbaron]

Speculating about the nations is pointless imo. I was going to do it but scum could follow any pattern really.

-rb

[yellowbaron]

They ninja'd my post, it's definitely that.

[yellowbaron]

You guys are gods tbh, you've already picked the scumnation and I'm just sitting here thinking this is RNS (Random Nation Stage)

[yellowbaron]

Hi TNE!!!

[yellowbaron]

I wonder what a Megazord made of the Yellow and Red Rangers + Motoko and Scully would look like? Would it be the most powerful Power Rangers Megazord to ever Megazord?

[yellowbaron]

Btw stray thought, what is the likeness that all scum would join one nation so they control one warden abd use their warden powers freely.

fairly unlikely, optimal scum play is to spread out.

That's what I was thinking. Though, I would expect more in Antiva if there are more than 4 scum. I can't see a list of our scum-to-town ratio anywhere, so I assume that's part of the puzzle.

[yellowbaron]

~boring

[yellowbaron]

Both Orlais and Antiva could operate basically the same as Tevinter, if town enforces transparency within the nation. The problem arises with accountability. It's slightly easier to point to a source of betrayal in Orlais than in Antiva, if something goes wrong when we're all supposed to be on the same page. That is, unless I'm totally missing something.

~boring

[yellowbaron]

It's not random, I think SirCakez is scum-aligned...

Why?

[yellowbaron]

Frozen's top of page stealing is actually triggering me.

[yellowbaron]

[yellowbaron]

PR Hunting?

VOTE: Bieber Brothers

[yellowbaron]

"PR hunting"

I lol'd

[yellowbaron]

All this time I've been playing this game. I have never seen scum role fish, like ever.

Infact I have noticed that mostly scum use it as an excuse for an easy scumread on someone that doesn't look weird.

I've seen it. Also I've seen people not necessarily role fish directly but talk about PR's as a means of faking real-content and potentially getting a PR slip too.

-rb

[yellowbaron]

I actually find it really weird that you'd turn this into a way of scumframing people for potentially scumframing. I'm into weird so I'm gonna say that I think it's scummy to suggest that it's scummy for people to suggest that role fishing is scummy.

Role fishing IS scummy. That's not debatable. Whether or not Bieber was actually role fishing is.

[yellowbaron]

Ahw.

I'm btw not that worried about being copied, more about being influenced too much. And giving too much away will just give scum more opportunities to play me. Which plenty of you have seen me fall for in the past.

VOTE: Masquerade

[yellowbaron]

Petitions us to trust his play before he's even under any real pressure.

[yellowbaron]

Isn't ABR V/LA for like 10 days?

-rb

p-edit: Didn't you tell him to not worry about being copied? Seems inconsistent with what you're saying now, unless I'm reading wrong.

[yellowbaron]

This is all rb.

[yellowbaron]

Isn't ABR V/LA for like 10 days?

-rb

p-edit: Didn't you tell him to not worry about being copied? Seems inconsistent with what you're saying now, unless I'm reading wrong.

Nope. I told him not to worry to get him to open up and address his fear earlier to get reads from him. That doesn't mean that because I told him to the fear will go away.

I'm not superwoman.

:-p

ABR is present enough to start counterwagons and ignore my requests for reads.

Bold: I'm not convinced!

I guess so, but I like him outting self as Kingmaker.

[yellowbaron]

Isn't ABR V/LA for like 10 days?

-rb

p-edit: Didn't you tell him to not worry about being copied? Seems inconsistent with what you're saying now, unless I'm reading wrong.

Nope. I told him not to worry to get him to open up and address his fear earlier to get reads from him. That doesn't mean that because I told him to the fear will go away.

I'm not superwoman.

:-p

ABR is present enough to start counterwagons and ignore my requests for reads.

Bold: I'm not convinced!

I guess so, but I like him outting self as Kingmaker.

Why do you?

P.S. I hate your vote on Dunn. I like when all my townreads agree and sing along.

I'm voting Masquerade.

I think King outing self is good for Town. Warden outing is bad unless they've used their powers/it's become obsolete then it's good to announce what days/what you did.

[yellowbaron]

Isn't ABR V/LA for like 10 days?

-rb

p-edit: Didn't you tell him to not worry about being copied? Seems inconsistent with what you're saying now, unless I'm reading wrong.

Nope. I told him not to worry to get him to open up and address his fear earlier to get reads from him. That doesn't mean that because I told him to the fear will go away.

I'm not superwoman.

:-p

ABR is present enough to start counterwagons and ignore my requests for reads.

Bold: I'm not convinced!

I guess so, but I like him outting self as Kingmaker.

Why do you?

P.S. I hate your vote on Dunn. I like when all my townreads agree and sing along.

I'm voting Masquerade.

I think King outing self is good for Town. Warden outing is bad unless they've used their powers/it's become obsolete then it's good to announce what days/what you did.

Disagree in an anonymous warden system. Then you have to worry about buddying in all that crap. Town!ABR doesn't give two shits what anyone thinks. It should ideally be announced moments before lynch/nightfall who the warden is in that nation. It's a cheap townpoints play. Look, I'm giving information so I must be town right?

I don't think I'm at the stage of the game where I'm scumreading townplays because the townplay is too cheap.

[yellowbaron]

BB
ABR

I've already solved like 1/3rd of the game

I've been ruminating on this since they posted it. Anyone think this could be a slip? We weren't told how many scum there were, and there's just as likely 4 as 6, so why not say "I've already solved like 1/2 of the game"?

~boring

[yellowbaron]

That's not at all what I said. A cheap townpoints play is something done to look to appear townie without actually being townie.

Claiming Kingmaker encourages budddying and sucking up to his slot.
When ABR could use that power to threaten cajole and then drop it to gain useful information.

I see it as a reason to scumread ABR later, not right now.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

That's not at all what I said. A cheap townpoints play is something done to look to appear townie without actually being townie.

Claiming Kingmaker encourages budddying and sucking up to his slot.
When ABR could use that power to threaten cajole and then drop it to gain useful information.

I see it as a reason to scumread ABR later, not right now.

~rb

This doesn't make sense. You're seemingly deflecting conversation away from ABR

Or I'm just not voting a person who's V/LA and their only action is one I think benefits town.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

also

@mod, you seem to have two wagons on Verdith

~ boring

[yellowbaron]

Later means: when he has other content I can look at his early King out and see what I think.

Simple answer is that he's town and did a town thing. I don't see a reason to over-complicate it at this stage. By all means vote ABR if you think he's scummy, that's what town are meant to do.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

My kinsmen are free to say retard and worship Talos. This is our land. We will rule it how we see fit, and any Empire dog that dares say otherwise will be crushed by the true sons and daugthers of Skyrim. Hail Talos! Hail the Stormcloaks!

Yeah okay VOTE: ABR

[yellowbaron]

Boring is boring. We're both relatively new and plan to give you as many headaches as possible all game

BB? I think role-fishing is definitively scummy, there's no town motivation to do it from my POV. Or rather, the town motivation to note out roles obviously outweights town curiosity. The only question is whether or not they were actually role-fishing imo.

[yellowbaron]

That was a quick change of heart.

^ he's being a dick.

[yellowbaron]

As someone who knows nothing about Skyrim, ABR is confusing the crap out of me.

Also about BB, PV is right (if PV is town). It almost seems like BB was told to get into that nation. Otherwise, why stay where you're clearly not wanted?

~boring

[yellowbaron]

To your point: he's "here" enough to give content. He's not giving content. I just said dick because you said it, but dick here = scummy.

Beeboy? No idea. Gut read says scum.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Inb4 Hydra dissonance.

[yellowbaron]

Reading your interactions as SvS.

Zord = denied.

UNVOTE: ABR

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Don't get me wrong I want you to be town but you're not making me think you're town. I'm sure if you really are town we can work it out eventually.

[yellowbaron]

ABR pls.

[yellowbaron]

VOTE: Foxbirdbeeboymanthing

[yellowbaron]

Hey, you're asking me to wagon ABR while telling me beeboy is scum. Don't blame me for not wanting to Zord with that.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

I read 763 as you trying to scumhunt beeboy, presumably by testing the reactions/reads of players whose alignment you're more sure of in relation to him?

If I misread then:

[yellowbaron]

Okay so...maybe I can undenies teh Megazord?

[yellowbaron]

Also this is probably really bad but all the nation joining stuff seemed entirely pointless to me since scum could play it literally any way possible and I think it's not worthwhile to try and guess as to how they would have played it. Feel free to disagree, I get the impression that it benefits Town to make things more publicized than not and to just sort the game as they would normally.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Tevinter?

I'd like to think you're town
Dunnstral is town
Luna is town
100P is scum
Peregrine hasn't posted

I don't really wanna vote within mah hood Day 1.

[yellowbaron]

Oops. Made a mistake on Peregrine, I think he's likely Town. Tevinter might be the best hood in the game.

Why do you think 100p is scum?

Maybe scumslip, I don't necessarily agree with boring but I think his naked facepalm reaction sucks. Personally if I was town I'd just say, "that's why I said 'like' 1/3rd of the game" - I mentioned to boring that I don't think it's a likely scumslip because it was worded without the certainty that would imply it being a scumslip. The fact he didn't explain it that way makes me think he's scummy since he's just trying to make boring look dumb as opposed to giving the very simple explanation via the wording.

In wayb4 naked facepalm emoticon.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Er I disagree on it being a scumslip btw

Didn't think his reaction was bad either

Not defending him I'm trying to figure them out

Okay.

What do you think of your hood?

[yellowbaron]

Boring is boring. We're both relatively new and plan to give you as many headaches as possible all game

BB? I think role-fishing is definitively scummy, there's no town motivation to do it from my POV. Or rather, the town motivation to note out roles obviously outweights town curiosity. The only question is whether or not they were actually role-fishing imo.

did I ever ask for a role? no, I did not. and if shiro outright said what their role was (which luckily they didn't) it would be on them, not us. I didn't want a warden that would be useless, that's why I asked. you seem to be really hung up on this, not liking that. feels like scum looking for reasons to scumread us.

As someone who knows nothing about Skyrim, ABR is confusing the crap out of me.

Also about BB, PV is right (if PV is town). It almost seems like BB was told to get into that nation. Otherwise, why stay where you're clearly not wanted?

~boring

^also this. what happened was: dwlee really wanted to be in tevinter, I was like "sure, why not" and when dwlee tried to join the nation and he couldn't, he was (understandably) a bit upset. we had discussed in pregame which nation we wanted to be.

Also this is probably really bad but all the nation joining stuff seemed entirely pointless to me since scum could play it literally any way possible and I think it's not worthwhile to try and guess as to how they would have played it. Feel free to disagree, I get the impression that it benefits Town to make things more publicized than not and to just sort the game as they would normally.

~rb

something something internal contradictions something something

I'm inclined to move my vote here.

willing to lynch:
Vedith, yellowbaron, Udders, (maybe abr as a distant fourth)

~Memeo

I think I have like 3 posts out of what must be close to 50 that are about role-fishing and apparently I'm "hung-up" on it.

[yellowbaron]

I could do a 100 percent lynch.

Why?

Their posts are terrible.

[yellowbaron]

@ masq, if you won't share your town reads in general, can you at least tell us how you feel about Dunnstral and ABR?

[yellowbaron]

@ masq, if you won't share your town reads in general, can you at least tell us how you feel about Dunnstral and ABR?

~boring

[yellowbaron]

Thanks. I must have missed post 811 (or forgotten it).~boring

[yellowbaron]

Shit I'm running late :/

[ v]Dunnstral[/v] wagon time.

Why Dunn over me?

I was scum with Dunn recently, never been scum with either of your 2 heads. If I remember correctly.

Really? Your input here might be useful to everyone. Have you played with town-Dunn too? How is this more like his scum play than his town play?

[yellowbaron]

Also, I'm eagerly awaiting Cakez's reasons for scum-reading us.

~boring

[yellowbaron]

My current lynch pool would be either randomidget or yellowbaron.

For what reasons?

RM for stating they'd lynch anyone.
Though I'm told that was joke, it still doesn't sit right with me.

YB for a general feeling of scumminess across all their posts. Nothing they say sounds natural to me.

Well, if it's awkwardness you want, do me a favor and let me know what you think about 100 percent ego and the beiber brothers.
~boring

[yellowbaron]

Ego needs to post more.
Bieber seems VI to me.

VI? Sorry, still new with all the acronyms.

[yellowbaron]

Thanks.

Not willing to lynch Vedith today.
I urge townies to take a look at beefox hydra

That reminds me!

@Foxbeebirdboythingummy - You said you'd tell us later. It's later. Why'd you pick Antiva when you were the very first post, and had your absolute pick of nations?

~boring

[yellowbaron]

Well randomly but still secret, or is it announced in your chat who is kingmaker?

No but we've agreed Kingmaker outing who they are makes the most sense.

[yellowbaron]

Also ABR I'm pretty sure is town based on hood chat and this is a rare case where I think it shouldn't be made public majority of what he's saying rn. I don't necessarily agree with his conclusions but I think they're town-motivated.

I agree w/ him that Orlais has at least 1 scum too. Not sure about Tevinter numbers. He seems to think Dunn is buddying me, I don't agree tbh.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Also I'm going to properly look into SirCakez when I'm fully awake.
As it stands, from a glance at his ISO, he's just standing in the background 80% of the time flinging shit shouting "fight!".
As I said, I need to read properly tomorrow, but I don't see anything from him to back up anything that he says. He looks like he's trying too hard to blend in.

That being said, I really can't stay up. If you guys need me, say my name 3 times. :giggles:

lol at this mud flinging

Isn't Orlais the nation with anonymous voting?

Orlais is anonymous king assignment, who then picks a Warden.

We've agreed King will out themselves and Warden will out themselves if they've used up their power. Warden's will only claim after they've been Warden, not before.

[yellowbaron]

I never scumread Masq.

M&S was trying to convince me ABR was scum, I said I didn't think they were scum for outing as King but depending how they play it might be scummy/fake town points. Then ABR starts literally trolling which I don't like so I voted. But I realise that I rly don't like the way M&S is trying to push the ABR wagon (more than I dislike ABR's play so far).

Also how is naked facepalm NOT a terrible response? I guess I missed the memo where you don't need to post content or have dialogue to solve the game - I'm sure we can all just use a bunch of smilies and we'll find scum ez right?

Also, me talking to TBB was actually responding to their post to me. I said I think they are role fishing and I find that scummy. But I did say that it's possible it wasn't actually a role-fish. Like 4 people said it wasn't and I find it highly unlikely that it was all scum who said it, so I droppes the issue.

Yes, I have more than a few scumreads. This is bad because...why exactly?

Besides the already mentioned "scumslip" push, there were a bunch of other things I didn't like from yellowbaron. My problems with them really started with their vote on Masq in 706 felt very opportunistic and had a weak explanation following it. They had no conviction behind it as well, they made a bad jump to ABR later on in 747 that went unexplained, they proceeded to hop off within 20 posts. Then in 780 they outright scumread the Nero hydra for posting a naked facepalm emote which was apparently a bad reaction? They also fencesit on something he posted being a scumslip which is awkward as hell. 791 has a terrible scumread on Masq for "their posts being terrible" which is the most vague and terrible reasoning to scumread someone I've ever seen (I've used this as made up reasoning for scumreads before as scum). Finally in 1108, when confronted about how awkward they are, they redirect the conversation to 100% and TBB instead, completely dodging the accusation.

tl;dr scumreads are all over the place and look obviously fake[/quote]

[yellowbaron]

Ugh phone posting is the worst. I'll EBWOP that to make more sense but it was meant to be a response to 1197 by SirCakez.

[yellowbaron]

@Dunn:

[yellowbaron]

[yellowbaron]

[yellowbaron]

What?

SirCakez, I'm not trolling just because you disagree.

[yellowbaron]

I fucking love it.

Someone responds with nothing but a smiley, and SirCakez doesn't see a problem.

Someone responds with ideas on how a scum-aligned vs town-aligned player might react to a push, and SirCakez sees it as "so troll"

Wow. Just fucking wow.

[yellowbaron]

I fucking love it.

Someone responds with nothing but a smiley, and SirCakez doesn't see a problem.

Someone responds with ideas on how a scum-aligned vs town-aligned player might react to a push, and SirCakez sees it as "so troll"

Wow. Just fucking wow.

Are you kidding

Look at your own hydra head

It's me being passive aggressive to prove a point.

[yellowbaron]

I never scumread Masq.

You might not have, your hydra partner did.

M&S was trying to convince me ABR was scum, I said I didn't think they were scum for outing as King but depending how they play it might be scummy/fake town points. Then ABR starts literally trolling which I don't like so I voted. But I realise that I rly don't like the way M&S is trying to push the ABR wagon (more than I dislike ABR's play so far).

This is similar to the emote thing. What's scummy about the trolling? He is doing other things.

Also how is naked facepalm NOT a terrible response? I guess I missed the memo where you don't need to post content or have dialogue to solve the game - I'm sure we can all just use a bunch of smilies and we'll find scum ez right?

What the hell is scummy about one facepalm emote? It's not like the only thing he's been posting are emotes.

Also, me talking to TBB was actually responding to their post to me. I said I think they are role fishing and I find that scummy. But I did say that it's possible it wasn't actually a role-fish. Like 4 people said it wasn't and I find it highly unlikely that it was all scum who said it, so I droppes the issue.

This is fencesitty af

Yes, I have more than a few scumreads. This is bad because...why exactly?

There's no focus in your reads and it looks like scum hopping around trying to get something to stick

[yellowbaron]

This case is actually so shit and it's painful because I think you're probably town.

1. 100 Percent was doing practically fucking nothing at the time I voted them. Look at their ISO up to post 700 - they started producing real content AFTER my vote. So no, from my POV they actually had shitall other content.

2. "Hopping around"? Dumbest thing I've ever had to explain. Look at the chronology of where my votes fall in relation to people's content and the reasons I do or don't unvote.

If I was "looking for something to stick" there's been multiple easy wagons for me to get on and I didn't. But somehow I'm not getting on them.

I'm not scumreading you Cakez, so please don't be such a shitlord and waste any more of mine and yours time with this case.

Wrong account.

[yellowbaron]

EBWOP: none of my play makes sense with "hopping around looking for something to stick" since I'm pushing targets without regard for what I think will or won't stick, but instead what I think is most likely scum based on my reads at the time.

Which is easily demonstrable if you look at the posts in order and the people they pertain to.

[yellowbaron]

1: can we please stop with the useless pagetop steals? Please don't post to post, post to say something.
2: instead of using emoticons, how about we use words?

Fucking 50 pages in on day 1..

[yellowbaron]

This case is actually so shit and it's painful because I think you're probably town.

1. 100 Percent was doing practically fucking nothing at the time I voted them. Look at their ISO up to post 700 - they started producing real content AFTER my vote. So no, from my POV they actually had shitall other content.

2. "Hopping around"? Dumbest thing I've ever had to explain. Look at the chronology of wher
e my votes fall in relation to people's content and the reasons I do or don't unvote.

If I was "looking for something to stick" there's been multiple easy wagons for me to get on and I didn't. But somehow I'm not getting on them.

I'm not scumreading you Cakez, so please don't be such a shitlord and waste any more of mine and yours time with this case.

Wrong account.

1. Ok I'll give you this. But the "emote reaction iz bad!" doesn't tie into that.
2. You've been on some easy wagons. You jumped on Masq who was being wagoned for no reason, ABR for "trolling". But you're avoiding voting Vedith because ???

also Masq, 50 pages is nothing in a large day 1 lol

P-edit: you aren't sticking to any of your scumreads, so no, it doesn't make sense.

Are you fucking high?

I voted ABR for his trolling and lack of content, then realised I didn't like that vote. He then started posting content and stopped trolling, why would I vote him when I see no problem?

Your first point is fucking circular. I'm not on another easy wagon so therefore...I'm looking for an easy wagon? My votes been on the same person for the last 10 pages at least.

Go read my actual posts or fuck off with this bullshit.

[yellowbaron]

Tbh Cakez if you flip town just gonna blacklist because this is by far the furthest from reality scumread I've ever had to explain.

If you're scum then gj playing the frustration game.

[yellowbaron]

Tbh Cakez if you flip town just gonna blacklist because this is by far the furthest from reality scumread I've ever had to explain.

This seems awfully like AtE to.me.

Mostly bevause a theoreticaly bad case is a horrid reason to blacklist someone.

It's not. It's an appeal to actually reading the game and using braincells to process it.

[yellowbaron]

^^ I agree regarding Vedith. His role reveal was most likely genuine, especially considering they're still a mystery to us. With Ira, I'm less sure, since he could be piggy-backing. It makes sense for role to be duplicated since they aren't always active.
~boring

[yellowbaron]

To clarify, AtE stands for "appeal to emotion". While rb enjoys passionate language, he's hardly made an emotional appeal to Cakez or town in general. Jumping in to fan the flames saying "ya, ya, AtE, must be scum" is pretty scummy in itself.

Does this look like scum encouraging TvT to anyone else?

~boring

[yellowbaron]

Baron is town but he won't do what I ask

We're still thinking about it. It's not obstinence (for the most part), just paranoia.
~boring

[yellowbaron]

What happened to dropping the ABR scumread?

I believe there's a middle ground between scum-reading someone and trusting them implicitly. Though, as we've already clarified, we never had a big-red-flag scum read on him, we just thought he was being unnecessarily trollish. He's become a little more transparent since then, and seems more likely town.

Either way, I don't think we should completely trust

anyone's

reads at this point in the game. Do you disagree?

~boring

[yellowbaron]

VOTE: yellowbaron

Threatening to blacklist someone for scumreading you seems kind of sketchy to me.
Much more than kind of, actually.

Why do you think impolite behavior is scummy? What's the motivation for scum to alienate themselves? It's not ideal for either scum or town, TBH. I mean, if you're just groping for a reason to vote someone, then have at it. You can be first on the policy wagon, and hope for traction. If you were town, this wouldn't be very effective scum hunting.

I do appreciate your contribution to help us deliberate on ABR's read, though. It was very generous of you.

VOTE: Radical Rat

~boring

[yellowbaron]

VOTE: yellowbaron

Threatening to blacklist someone for scumreading you seems kind of sketchy to me.
Much more than kind of, actually.

Why do you think impolite behavior is scummy? What's the motivation for scum to alienate themselves? It's not ideal for either scum or town, TBH. I mean, if you're just groping for a reason to vote someone, then have at it. You can be first on the policy wagon, and hope for traction. If you were town, this wouldn't be very effective scum hunting.

I do appreciate your contribution to help us deliberate on ABR's read, though. It was very generous of you.

VOTE: Radical Rat

~boring

What do you mean by help you deliberate on ABR's read?

I don't feel rat is groping for a read here, I feel like it is tunneling based on a gut read and trying to find anything you do scummy because of it.

I suppose that's a possibility. Seems a little less likely, though. There's something disingenuous about the whole thing. Anyway, ABR says Rat is scum. He seems pretty dang confident about it. Their interaction certainly got Rat on my radar, and this was another ping. It's enough for me for now.

~boring

[yellowbaron]

@100 Percent Ego - can you please upload an avatar?

[yellowbaron]

To clarify, AtE stands for "appeal to emotion". While rb enjoys passionate language, he's hardly made an emotional appeal to Cakez or town in general. Jumping in to fan the flames saying "ya, ya, AtE, must be scum" is pretty scummy in itself.

Does this look like scum encouraging TvT to anyone else?

~boring

What did you mean with the thing I just bolded?

It seemed like TBB was contributing nothing, just fanning the flames. I'm pretty sure Cakez is town, and I'm pretty sure I am. Before jumping head first down the "TBB is trying to exacerbate things" path, I thought I'd ask to see what others thought.

It was in response to this post, btw

Spoiler:

hooray my scumreads are gaining traction

is anyone in Antiva against being the warden?

we are

This case is actually so shit and it's painful because I think you're probably town.

1. 100 Percent was doing practically fucking nothing at the time I voted them. Look at their ISO up to post 700 - they started producing real content AFTER my vote. So no, from my POV they actually had shitall other content.

2. "Hopping around"? Dumbest thing I've ever had to explain. Look at the chronology of wher
e my votes fall in relation to people's content and the reasons I do or don't unvote.

If I was "looking for something to stick" there's been multiple easy wagons for me to get on and I didn't. But somehow I'm not getting on them.

I'm not scumreading you Cakez, so please don't be such a shitlord and waste any more of mine and yours time with this case.

Wrong account.

1. Ok I'll give you this. But the "emote reaction iz bad!" doesn't tie into that.
2. You've been on some easy wagons. You jumped on Masq who was being wagoned for no reason, ABR for "trolling". But you're avoiding voting Vedith because ???

also Masq, 50 pages is nothing in a large day 1 lol

P-edit: you aren't sticking to any of your scumreads, so no, it doesn't make sense.

Are you fucking high?

I voted ABR for his trolling and lack of content, then realised I didn't like that vote. He then started posting content and stopped trolling, why would I vote him when I see no problem?

Your first point is fucking circular. I'm not on another easy wagon so therefore...I'm looking for an easy wagon? My votes been on the same person for the last 10 pages at least.

Go read my actual posts or fuck off with this bullshit.

we in ate town now boiz

lynch this tomorrow please

~Memeo

[yellowbaron]

Tbh Cakez if you flip town just gonna blacklist because this is by far the furthest from reality scumread I've ever had to explain.

If you're scum then gj playing the frustration game.

Yeah, this is bad manipulation. Your trajectory has been ridiculous and Cakey has every right to call you out on it.

I think rb was just frustrated by the conflict with a town player. I agree that it's completely understandable for Cakez to retort. I realize I'm still learning the game, but to me, the interaction was more of a derail than a scumhunt. No votes were cast or even threatened. It should have been read as null, except maybe by Cakez because it was aimed at him, and therefore would feel more personal. Cakez didn't OMGUS, and he's de-escalated admirably. It's quite possible that the conflict is over.

So the more pressing question is, what do you think of the vultures (like Radical Rat) who were circling the conflict, waiting for another good mislynch target?

~boring

[yellowbaron]

VOTE: yellowbaron

Threatening to blacklist someone for scumreading you seems kind of sketchy to me.
Much more than kind of, actually.

Was wondering when the scum would go for the low hanging fruit

More rat votes pls.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

@yellow: I'm not sure on Cakes yet but I have ongoing reasons for thinking Bieberboys are town. So my answer is no.

Can you elaborate why they're town? If not here, then in the nation thread?

[yellowbaron]

Tbh people can call this scummy or dumb or omgus or whatever they want but I'm gonna create Hydra dissonance and say Cakez is probable scum.

> Cakez started his case on me really strong
> I get frustrated and exhibit what is apparently bad play
> He even cites an example where scum did this to him before
> His case gets weaker. Why? If he's Town, it'd get stronger because he's got a scum suspicion, who then resorted to a tactic that he knows is scummy. But then he says..."cool off you're not even my top scumread"
> He knows I'm town and he's scum

In wayb4 omgus accusations. Go and read my interactions that Cakez is disliking. Understand how actually woeful Cakez case is, then vote for Rat or Cakez.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Like my behaviour apparently got much worse and I did a scumthing and Cakez EASES off the pressure. The potential wagon looks more likely and Cakez starts distancing from his case - "you're not even my top scumread".

Rat is prototypical scum going after opportunity lynch where he thinks he can just blame it on AtE afterwards.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

That's just misrep
You rose points in your defense that I found acceptable (ABR stopped trolling, 100% had no content before your vote) so my scumread cooled off.

Does town Cakez always play like such a pussy?

[yellowbaron]

More rat votes pls.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Thought you'd caught scum doing this before?

So then you're just weakly tunneling and barely contributing to the game because you've just fluffed on about stupid reasons I'm scum for pages now. The less you commit to your reads, the scummier you are tbh.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Okay run away little scummer.

[yellowbaron]

Does Town Cakez really just completely back off a scumread because they're being toxic? REALLY?

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Cakez' scumread on me is getting weaker in contrast to other people's getting stronger (implying that my responses are actually bad/scummy) - why?

Multiple people keep pointing out my scummy responses, Cakez case gains traction and he's like "nope nope nope" all of a sudden?

~rb

[yellowbaron]

So vote me then.

[yellowbaron]

Where's the AtE anyway? Can you point that out for me?

[yellowbaron]

I said that pointing out that they are, not that they are.

Which makes your post VERY opportunistic.

[yellowbaron]

That people are pointing out*

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Yes. Other people are implying my posts are bad/scummy to other people, but Cakez scumread is weakening.

[yellowbaron]

Besides, if they aren't scummy, then Cakez backing off should be fine, shouldn't it? After all, wouldn't scum be MORE likely to follow the crowd's perception of scumminess?

Scum distance themselves when their bad cases gain traction.
They also distance themselves from 'strong' defenses against their cases because they know getting into a prolonged debate will expose the weakness of their case.

[yellowbaron]

Cakez just said above I destroyed any towncred, yet instead of pushing how scummy I'm being he runs off.

[yellowbaron]

Yes feign indignance to get out of providing real content.

[yellowbaron]

Indignation*

[yellowbaron]

I'd be happy with a faction that was townblocking all my scumbuddies too.

[yellowbaron]

I'm not going to keep responding to your garbage

Well I can respect the sentiment here, you really should at least drop a vote if you still think they're scum.

Yeah but then how can he distance?

[yellowbaron]

Lol @ thinking it's AtE to blacklist someone who's literally lying and refusing to read the game.

I also don't think he's town.

[yellowbaron]

Oh right, TBB is talking about two hydra heads. Boring's response has been much the same as mine: that it wasn't AtE. If you weren't busy being selective about which posts you quote that'd be obvious.

Boring says in 1345 exactly what I'm saying - it wasn't AtE. But gj only picking the specific quotes to highlight your point instead of dealing with reality.

[yellowbaron]

So @TBB, where's the hypocrisy since both heads agree there was no AtE intent?

[yellowbaron]

This townblocking is actually absurd to me because it seems largely based on nation selection but as I've said I don't think you could accurately glean what is or isn't scumplay since they could do the expected or unexpected. Scum/townreading based on nation joined just seems dumb to me until there's actual flips.

Rat is scum
Cakez is scum

In wayb4 omgus :^)

[yellowbaron]

Masquerade's response here is garbage, and there's actually a chance of the lynch going through...

I'm not done with you though, Baron... You will be lynched before this decade is out.

VOTE: Masquerade

Why you wanna lynch a townie though?

...oh, right.

[yellowbaron]

Masquerade's response here is garbage, and there's actually a chance of the lynch going through...

I'm not done with you though, Baron... You will be lynched before this decade is out.

VOTE: Masquerade

More I think about, the more this post gets awful.

Scum don't offer pathetic threats, "you will be lynched before this decade is out" lmao. Try harder to look like you're motivated to scumhunt pls.

[yellowbaron]

Town don't offer pathetic threats* lol

[yellowbaron]

Masquerade's response here is garbage, and there's actually a chance of the lynch going through...

I'm not done with you though, Baron... You will be lynched before this decade is out.

VOTE: Masquerade

Why you wanna lynch a townie though?

...oh, right.

Where did I say that Masquerade was Townie?
Where did I say that you were Townie?

I didn't say that you said it, but you want to lynch me and I'm a townie. Why you wanna do that?

[yellowbaron]

Masquerade's response here is garbage, and there's actually a chance of the lynch going through...

I'm not done with you though, Baron... You will be lynched before this decade is out.

VOTE: Masquerade

More I think about, the more this post gets awful.

Scum don't offer pathetic threats, "you will be lynched before this decade is out" lmao. Try harder to look like you're motivated to scumhunt pls.

I have a flair for drama. Hence the mangled Kennedy quote, instead of something actually threatening, like tomorrow.
The main purpose of that statement was to clarify that I'm not just hopping off of you for an easy lynch. You're still on my radar, and I still want you dead.

Sounds like you're pretty worried about how you appear by changing your vote, huh?

[yellowbaron]

Don't care. If I get lynched my flip will prove my point.

You can dislike what I'm doing as much as you want but it's how I sort players. I get bored really fast doing quotewall battles or long analysis, so I feed off interactions. Can't elaborate but it finds scum for me and covincing the town is a secondary thing. If I have to flip to get it through that's fine by me. My warden ability is average at best this game since if it works it's basically 1-shot anyway and doesn't really make for much of a town advantage.

Also I think this game needs another element than this nation-based townblocking/scumreading that I think is bad.

[yellowbaron]

Both the Masq and FU wagons have pretty shit compositions.
Can someone explain to me the Masq case because FU can't be scum with Dunnstral and Masq was a gut town read of mine lol

The Masq wagon has a few Tevinters and what looks to be a couple sheep votes. M&S have been tending the small, but loyal flock by helping them cry "wolf" at their detractors. They think Masq is the lowest-hanging fruit at the moment, but it looks like the crew is testing the waters to try us too. IMO, Masq is either town, or she's knowingly playing a fast and loose scum game. The former is more likely.

The Feelmi wagon is barely more than policy. I'm not saying she's a town read, but it's Day 1. Lurkers can't lurk forever.

[yellowbaron]

Both the Masq and FU wagons have pretty shit compositions.
Can someone explain to me the Masq case because FU can't be scum with Dunnstral and Masq was a gut town read of mine lol

The Masq wagon has a few Tevinters and what looks to be a couple sheep votes. M&S have been tending the small, but loyal flock by helping them cry "wolf" at their detractors. They think Masq is the lowest-hanging fruit at the moment, but it looks like the crew is testing the waters to try us too. IMO, Masq is either town, or she's knowingly playing a fast and loose scum game. The former is more likely.

The Feelmi wagon is barely more than policy. I'm not saying she's a town read, but it's Day 1. Lurkers can't lurk forever.

Do you think any are scum on the Masq wagon aside from Cakey? I have been hard pushing Masq. I don't want to lynch my zord buddy though. The hood knows that, so why are you afraid?

Why do you think Masq is low hanging fruit as opposed to scum?

~Titus

I'll attempt to interpret/elaborate.

I had my doubts about Masq at first, but they've been somewhat alleviated because she's sticking her neck out a lot. She doesn't seem afraid of contradictions, and is willing to take risks in her process (which remains a mystery, I'll admit). If she's scum, then she's stupid scum, and we'll have something more solid against her later (as early as Night 1, though Day 2 is more likely). If she's town, she's a mislynch target with her all-over-the-placeness. I'm not fond of the Masq wagon as it stands.

I voted Rat, and obviously think he's scum. I can't believe that a town player could trust and sheep that hard.

To add my own two cents, I'm cognisant of the little tendrils you're pushing out; and loaded statements like "why are you afraid?" aren't sitting well with me. Equally, I'm uncomfortable with the buddying you're trying to pull. You feel the need to tell us that you're keeping your "hood" off our back? Why? If we're both town, then there's no reason for your not-so-subtle attempts as manipulation. If you think we're scum, then push our lynch in earnest. There's no need for protection. There's no need to play the "I wanna be your friend, but you're gonna have to play along" game.

Now, I don't know whether you're scum, or if you just have a manipulative scum-hunting style (and we just happen to be seeing things very differently). Time will help sort that out.

~boring

[yellowbaron]

FU needs to actually post, so I've got a lurkerscum read there

Why lurker

scum

?

The posts that I have seen so far have been devoid of any content. You can lurk and post just enough to avoid prods, but still engage or provide some insight when you do post.

Shadow do you have any reads for us? That wall was mostly questioning.

he's not caught up you toolbag

From where he did catch up to you toolbag

I loled a little at this exchange.

I have a couple of reads, but mind you these are extremely subjective to change since I'm still 30ish pages behind.

I'm leaning scum on Masq and M&S
FU needs to actually post, so I've got a lurkerscum read there
yellowbaron and FC are town leans.

Everybody else is null and/or I need to parse more still.

Well since you're reading. You have the context backwards. I absolutely think the Pregame was relevant. I was objecting to someone claiming it wasn't.

Ah, you were responding to yb in 776 - my apologies, didn't put those two together at first. In that case:

yellowbaron

- Do you think nation joining was the only thing that could be analyzed in the pregame? Isn't looking at every interaction in the game the only way to determine motivations and knowledge level?

Well, that was my other head, but I think I understand his stance.

I think there are too many ways that nation choices can be interpreted. Too much WIFOM, not enough certainty. In asking for explanations (I'm still waiting on FBBB's by the way), we're looking for clues to unlock the greater puzzle.

The interactions, on the other hand, are absolutely valuable as an information resource. Obviously, I don't think every interaction will unlock the game -- there's too much chaos. We all have different personalities and different approaches to take into account. Nevertheless, they all still contribute little chips of color that make up the mosaic we're trying to piece together.

[yellowbaron]

~boring

[yellowbaron]

Posts #1457 and #1458 were dismissive, not loaded. As I understand it, the blacklist threat was aimed directly at the target in the heat of the moment. It clearly was not intended to win the hearts and minds of the townsfolk (which is the purpose of grandstanding).

A loaded statement is "are you always this bitchy on Mondays"?

Yes, everyone manipulates, but everyone also has a reason for doing so. When the manipulation feels heavy-handed, it's usually because the manipulator is inexperienced, unaware of the intended target's level of sensitivity, or particularly invested in the outcome. From this response, I think it's safe to choose among the second two.

I think Rat is scum. We've a scum lean on Cakez, I am uneasy about 100 percent & FBBB, and we're having a hard time reading you. Luna is probably town (at least we hope).

~boring

[yellowbaron]

boring what's your individual read on me, without rb's influence? I'm curious.

I do have a scum lean on you at the moment.

I think it's curious that you'd ease off like that when things got heated. Especially after the blacklist remark. If you genuinely think we're scum, then as aggressive as my other head was, it would make a lot of sense for you to tear us a new one. I mean, he was right there spitting in your face. All you had to do was roll with the momentum. You wouldn't have to fling mud, you could have done it calmly if that's your way. In any case, I'm sure a lot of people would have followed you.

So it does leave me to wonder why you didn't. I see the possibilities as
A) You're scum, and you know we're town. So if you spearheaded our wagon and kept it rolling, you'll be in the noose when we flip. It's safer to let others help you, and diffuse the blame.
B) You're town, you are doubting that we're actually scum. You just don't know how to reconcile the conflict, and save credibility after a very understandable OMGUS reaction-read.
C) You're town, you honestly think we're scum, and you're biding your time.

If I had to give weight to the possibilities, I'd say 55% A, 35% B, 10% C.
I think rb is more like 100% A.

Spoiler:

This is both our first hydra, so I apologize for the schizoid feeling we're putting out there, but we've agreed at least on one thing: We're more useful to town being honest than feigning absolute agreement.

~boring

[yellowbaron]

Both the Masq and FU wagons have pretty shit compositions.
Can someone explain to me the Masq case because FU can't be scum with Dunnstral and Masq was a gut town read of mine lol

The Masq wagon has a few Tevinters and what looks to be a couple sheep votes. M&S have been tending the small, but loyal flock by helping them cry "wolf" at their detractors. They think Masq is the lowest-hanging fruit at the moment, but it looks like the crew is testing the waters to try us too. IMO, Masq is either town, or she's knowingly playing a fast and loose scum game. The former is more likely.

The Feelmi wagon is barely more than policy. I'm not saying she's a town read, but it's Day 1. Lurkers can't lurk forever.

Do you think any are scum on the Masq wagon aside from Cakey? I have been hard pushing Masq. I don't want to lynch my zord buddy though. The hood knows that, so why are you afraid?

Why do you think Masq is low hanging fruit as opposed to scum?

~Titus

I'm afraid you're being stupid and wrong and forcing your stupid and wrong on everyone else with this townblocking, since apparently everyone who scumreads anyone who you consider town results in you cutting them down asap.

Stfu and let people sort the game the way they sort it. Not everyone is inclined to make like 8 townreads in 1 day based on one-liners and nation choices that scum could manipulate in almost any way they wanted. Maybe they stack day chat, maybe they stack ferelden. Maybe the spread out in all 4 for chance at all-scum Warden nights or maybe they stack 2 for regular Wardens and just let town have their own 1-2 Wardens.

Cakes and Rat are still scum btw. If TBB is town they're absolute garbage. They voted on me for an apparent "hypocritical" remark that I clearly showed wasn't and then they just dodged and ignored that point.

Still catching up.

~rb

Ayy lmao

[yellowbaron]

FU needs to actually post, so I've got a lurkerscum read there

Why lurker

scum

?

The posts that I have seen so far have been devoid of any content. You can lurk and post just enough to avoid prods, but still engage or provide some insight when you do post.

Shadow do you have any reads for us? That wall was mostly questioning.

he's not caught up you toolbag

From where he did catch up to you toolbag

I loled a little at this exchange.

I have a couple of reads, but mind you these are extremely subjective to change since I'm still 30ish pages behind.

I'm leaning scum on Masq and M&S
FU needs to actually post, so I've got a lurkerscum read there
yellowbaron and FC are town leans.

Everybody else is null and/or I need to parse more still.

Well since you're reading. You have the context backwards. I absolutely think the Pregame was relevant. I was objecting to someone claiming it wasn't.

Ah, you were responding to yb in 776 - my apologies, didn't put those two together at first. In that case:

yellowbaron

- Do you think nation joining was the only thing that could be analyzed in the pregame? Isn't looking at every interaction in the game the only way to determine motivations and knowledge level?

Looking at every interaction is exactly why I find the townblocking from pregame and nation choices annoying. We're like 30-40 pages past that and stuff needs to update. On top of that it doesn't help town to keep shooting down people who're actually trying to scumhunt.

As I've said I don't think nation is good to analyse until we get some flips. Until then people should just focus on scumhunting normally and voting for a Warden they think is town. Looking at every interaction is what I'm doing - I'm not the one making townblocks in the fkn pre-game.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Wow, opening with an insult and a discredit.

A townblock you are not a part of is not stupid (insult) or a discredit (your reads are wrong). A town group that functions as a team does not block scumhunting (see signs and void).

The rest of this post is nothing more than you disagree with my reads and I should shut up while you push town. That's not going to happen. If you have questions to ask, no one is stopping you. If you want to call people, pathetic, stupid, wrong, absolute garbage or a litany of other insults against people I townread rather than analysis, we're going to have a problem.

I am still waiting on you explain how we went from town to "having trouble sorting".

~Titus

And you know they're wrong because...?

[yellowbaron]

Also you asked why I'm afraid. It's not meant as an insult, but that's what I'm afraid of - that this is stupid strategy to play pre-flips and that you're wrong about multiple of the townblock.

[yellowbaron]

Nah.

I don't play that way. I have a few main things that I do.

1. Try find the scum
2. Try get my top scumreads lynched
3. Keep my vote on top scumread

That's about it really. I don't care if other people play by making townblocks. I can do that if I get a lot of strong town reads. I don't have them so I'm not, and I'm not going to let other people's reads influnce who I think is scum at this early stage of the game.

You wanna talk? Vote Radical Rat or Cakez, then we'll talk.

[yellowbaron]

I've already cased them both. Read the thread maybe.

[yellowbaron]

Nvm I forgot you don't read the thread, you've already figured out the game based on nation choices.

[yellowbaron]

Yeah, I don't find disparaging remarks to be cases or slander to be effective.

Someone actually reading the content and interactions wouldn't just see it as slander/disparaging. I find it...interesting that there seems to be a vested interest in the way people are painting me as being AtE /hysterical when it's fairly obvious that I'm not being.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

Anywho, I refuted the shit M&S is talking about me and I'm no longer going to talk to them about me because they are plain wrong and not taking my responses into consideration. Look at how they keep repeating everything from when they first started pushing me, not thinking about what I've been saying since. Classic signs of irrational tunnel.

^ yep.

Everything M&S pushes is based on old content and doesn't adapt to any new info. I don't care if they're town, not touching any of their wagons.

[yellowbaron]

^ That's a really bad post and I was townreading you too

Why not work with M&S?

Tried. Didn't work. She's pretty much intent to just stick to her townreads, won't adapt to any new information. Points I made on my scumreads she just dismissed as "disparaging and hysterics" or something, when it pretty obviously wasn't. I cbf trying to convince someone who doesn't listen, and I'm kinda bored of being accused of hysterics/AtE by people when there's people who can clearly see there's a plan/reason for what I'm doing and that it actually does help ppl sort the game/find scum. Plus there's some townblocking going on where they're just defending each other and shooting down anyone who opposes them.

Their reasoning is, "clearly only scum would oppose this big townblock!" - but that's such a fucking retarded assumption to make and is pretty much just confbias. So fuck it, I'm sheeping ABR now because apparently playing the game by trying to find scum and get them lynched is bad for town.

Right now I'm pretty sure that I'm the recipient of a combination of town tunneling and scum mudflinging, keeping me in some area of being townread by some, scumread by some and never really having enough impact to get my actual scumreads lynched.

~rb

[yellowbaron]

VOTE: Luna Fox

Baa baa.

[yellowbaron]

Actually nah, ABR thinks Dunn might be scum.

VOTE: Dunnstral

[yellowbaron]

^ That's a really bad post and I was townreading you too

Why not work with M&S?

Tried. Didn't work. She's pretty much intent to just stick to her townreads, won't adapt to any new information. Points I made on my scumreads she just dismissed as "disparaging and hysterics" or something, when it pretty obviously wasn't. I cbf trying to convince someone who doesn't listen, and I'm kinda bored of being accused of hysterics/AtE by people when there's people who can clearly see there's a plan/reason for what I'm doing and that it actually does help ppl sort the game/find scum. Plus there's some townblocking going on where they're just defending each other and shooting down anyone who opposes them.

Their reasoning is, "clearly only scum would oppose this big townblock!" - but that's such a fucking retarded assumption to make and is pretty much just confbias. So fuck it, I'm sheeping ABR now because apparently playing the game by trying to find scum and get them lynched is bad for town.

Right now I'm pretty sure that I'm the recipient of a combination of town tunneling and scum mudflinging, keeping me in some area of being townread by some, scumread by some and never really having enough impact to get my actual scumreads lynched.

~rb

This is what I am talking about with disparaging remarks. Change your reads or else you're terrible and worthy of attack is NOT town motivated.

This perpetual character assassination isn't townie at all. If you want reads to change, the attitude that you suck unless you agree has got to go.

Lmao, fuck off.

You've done nothing this game but character assassinate, and then act like I'm the one doing it. You've called multiple people terrible just because they voted someone you townread, without so much as asking them why.

[yellowbaron]

"Hey guyz I made a townblok wif 4 other ppl who r gud scumhunterz. Any1 who disagreez is skum ofc. Lol u voteD my townblock and Have ORoigiNAl thoughtsZ?? U must be scum, ur terrible @ this game!"

~Titus

[yellowbaron]

He thinks Luna is scum too. But Dunn has more votes so that's a better sheep and apparently people prefer it when players sheep like Titus is than when they come up with original thoughts like me.

So, baa baa!

[yellowbaron]

He thinks Luna is scum too. But Dunn has more votes so that's a better sheep and apparently people prefer it when players sheep like Titus is than when they come up with original thoughts like me.

So, baa baa!

YB: I object to sheeping Titus because townblock based on nation. So I will sheep ABR based on nation and do whatever he says.

No because I've spent this entire game trying to play to my own thoughts and scumreads, only to have to be called "hsyterical" for not wanting to agree/follow people when I don't actually agree with their townblock. Also ABR hasn't even remotely tried to form a townblock or shoot people down the way you are.

If I'm gonna sheep someone, I'm at least gonna sheep someone who I think has a chance of being right.

[yellowbaron]

Oh yer, the best part was when I said that I don't think we should form big townblocks based on nation choices PRE-FLIP and we should at least wait for a few flips and then try and parse it. Then people act like I'm trying to say nations are totally irrelevant and how dumb/scummy/hysterical it is to not implicitly trust this townblock.

So unless it's just entirely scum who're trying to make it out like I'm being scummy/hysterical/dumb right now, then it's pretty much confirmed that there's multiple town who're not even TRYING to read the game because they're misrepping and misunderstanding the most simple of posts as if they're just super dumb/scum/hysterical/AtE or whatever other shitty buzzword they can come up with to throw shade in my direction. So I'm not going to bother. If people aren't going to read the game and are just going to misrep me because they disagree with me, I'm not going to bother put forward original thoughts or content. I'll just play the little sheep game since apparently that's what everyone wants to do.

Baa baa!

[yellowbaron]

@YB

Now, that's a twist. I said you were using melodrama rather than calling you hysterical when I was using that phrase. You know it and I do too.

You haven't been playing to your own thoughts and scumreads. You've been playing kiss ABR's ass and town block is bad. Shad Shade Shade. You've refused to consider that most of Tevinter is town and we know that about each other.

You said the word hysterical, but you meant something else.

Are you an actual fucking idiot cunt?

I've given 3 scumreads that were completely independent of anything else going on in the game. Or if they were, I didn't read/wasn't basing it off that.

I gut read foxbeebirdboy as scum.
Cakez is scum and Rat is scum.

I dunno how many other people were scumreading/pushing the idea they were scum before me but I know they weren't anywhere close to being main wagons.

[yellowbaron]

Like yeah, you wonder why I'd get annoyed when you say, "stop using hysterics" and then apparently I'm supposed to know that when you say, "stop using hysterics" what you actually mean is, "you are using melodrama".

Lmfao you're actually warped.

[yellowbaron]

@YB

Now, that's a twist. I said you were using melodrama rather than calling you hysterical when I was using that phrase. You know it and I do too.

You haven't been playing to your own thoughts and scumreads. You've been playing kiss ABR's ass and town block is bad. Shad Shade Shade. You've refused to consider that most of Tevinter is town and we know that about each other.

Also who's throwing shade here?

You're telling me:

- I'm not playing to my own thoughts and scumreads (even though my scumreads have all been unpopular)
- I'm playing kiss ABR's ass (even though 2/3 of my scumreads don't align with ABR)
- Shade shade shade
- I haven't at all refused to consider Tevinter is town. I've said that I haven't adequately sorted them yet and I'm NOT WILLING TO TOWNREAD ALL OF THEM BASED ON NATION *PRE-FLIP* - YOU ACTUAL FUCKING MORON
- Also I even provided a post where I shared my gut-reads of Tevinter and I'm fairly sure I had like 3 of you as Town so again - misrepping and throwing shade at me.

Everything you've said is literally just bullshit.

FixT.

[yellowbaron]

Hysterics is melodrama. Same thing.

You're still doing that. The cunt insult is terrible. So is warped. Rather than have an intelligent conversation, you use ad hominem vitriol worthy of action against.

Cakey and Rat are working with Tevinter. Those reads are about attacking town blocks and discouraging people from working with us. Beeboy is a bussing scumread. You have pursued it never. If you had, you'd see that you were in lock step with your scumread and interact with them.

~Titus

No, they absolutely fucking aren't attacking townblocks or discouraging people working with you.

They're scumreads based on my interactions with them and how they respond/justify their actions. In fact, I had no idea Cakez/RR were working with your townblock when I scumread them. Lmao, Beeboy as a bussing scumread. What a joke.

Keep misrepping me please, cunt.

[yellowbaron]

What's intelligent about this conversation on your end anyway, considering that you're literally just misrepping pretty much everything I've said?

Oh right, there IS an alignment in mafia where misrepping is an intelligent thing to do and actually helps...ehehe.

[yellowbaron]

Sorry, it's everyday/mild in Australia.

[yellowbaron]

*shrug*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRz8FWPUmpI

[yellowbaron]

Just because something fits your worldview as scum motivated doesn't mean that's what scum did.

Just because something fits your worldview as not-scum motivated doesn't mean that's what scum didn't do.

[yellowbaron]

Hey Titus, aren't you gonna try and misrep me some more?

[yellowbaron]

*bleats loudly*

VOTE: Luna Fox

[yellowbaron]

The route that has a Tevinter scum has your slot as scum anyway.

Go on.

[yellowbaron]

ABR give some sort of reasoning please damn

Silence scum.

[yellowbaron]

@YB, Nah. I am not convincing you that you are scum. If anyone who isn't my scumread cares, I will engage them.

Wait wait. So let's get this straight.

> You're constantly shooting people down for thinking Tevinter has scum
> If Tevinter has scum, then I must be scum too
> I'm scum, but you're still shooting people down for thinking Tevinter has scum

[yellowbaron]

AHAHAHA Titus your post 1772 can't be serious?

[yellowbaron]

Baa baa!

More Luna votes please!

[yellowbaron]

It doesnt sux, because if there's scum then nothing will happen to me, nothing happening to me would mean a 5 player masonry, but you guys screwed up everything with your nosyness.

Just...no.

Wtf? You guys were actually banking on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g20_8-TPyTQ

[yellowbaron]

VOTE: RR

My warden power enables me to let someone else use there power twice so vote me as warden today pls

Baa baa!

VOTE: Rat

[yellowbaron]

Lmao, Titus still thinks I'm scum.

[yellowbaron]

Hey foxbeething, your frustration with this game and your recent voting patterns have improved my gut scumread of you to a gut townread. Welcome to the townblock.

ABR townblock vs Titus' townblock. Which sheep will win?

[yellowbaron]

So much scum so few votes

Sheep someone already you're not sheeping enough and that's scummy!

[yellowbaron]

Hey Titus can we go back to you misrepping me more and trying to fling mud?

[yellowbaron]

I don't want to lynch either cop claim.
If they are both warden enabled they could both be true..

Omg best player in entire game.

Sheeping4eva.

[yellowbaron]

Beeboy, unless ABR is a lying scumbag, he cannot be warden today.

In other words you know he isn't a lying scumbag.

Found scum #3 guys. Don't worry though, unless foxbee or ABR vote you I won't vote you. Have to sheep as much as possible to look really townie, you know?

[yellowbaron]

LUL @ the Masquerade scumwagon.

[yellowbaron]

Hey Titus I know you're a big girl and that it wasn't mean words that scared you off your stupid tunneling on me. Can we get back to you trying to misrep me again so you can be obvscum like Cakez? Thanks.

[yellowbaron]

You're Ferelden. You publically vote for a Warden from the nation of Ferelden.

You should vote someone that isn't Radical Rat or Cakez.

[yellowbaron]

Ohhh so you've given up misrepping me? What gives?

[yellowbaron]

Hey Foxbeebirdboy, who are all your scumreads? I'm thinking of making you my #1 townread and I'll vote whoever you vote.

<3

[yellowbaron]

Ohhh so you've given up misrepping me? What gives?

Never did.

If you're scum then GJ getting me supremely annoyed.

If you're town then wwwwwwwooooooooowwwwwwwwww pls check your reading comprehension.

[yellowbaron]

All this Bullshit could have been avoided if you guys listened and voted Feelmi, thing is. It is now too late for Felmi.

P.edit

Well for Luna to be scum pv must be scum.

ABR really doesn't seem like scum though and 2 cops with a person capable to make their powers double useful seems op.to death.

Just bleat with me and vote for Radical Rat.

Foxbirdbeeboy are the best players in this game and if they're town we need to sheep them. If they're scum well that's the town's fault that a scum player is like 1 of 2 people making any sense at all in this game.

[yellowbaron]

But it is true that her claiming cop in the PT early day 1 is horrible town play bevause there is nothing saying scum couldn't have infiltrated.

It was her plan to test it. If she lived unroleblocked, then the hood was very likely free from scum.

The pushback on her but not on PV is very telling once this game out.

This strategy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g20_8-TPyTQ

[yellowbaron]

But it is true that her claiming cop in the PT early day 1 is horrible town play bevause there is nothing saying scum couldn't have infiltrated.

It was her plan to test it. If she lived unroleblocked, then the hood was very likely free from scum.

The pushback on her but not on PV is very telling once this game out.

This strategy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g20_8-TPyTQ

It is actually pretty solid since it confirms scum in-between 4 people.

No it's really bad and I cbf explaining why rn because I don't discuss scum strategy.

[yellowbaron]

All that matters is that people align their votes with foxbee.

[yellowbaron]

People need to realise that it doesn't matter whether Titus is town or scum because her reads are going to be just as bad for the town either way. Vote Radical Rat already.

[yellowbaron]

It is actually pretty solid since it confirms scum in-between 4 people.

OR creates a 5-player masonry, but i still believe the main proponents to disrupt this strategy are scum, since... as i said before a 5-player masonry is very powerful. Scum dont want that, they want to discredit townreads, not generate more.

I didn't believe you could create a 5 man masonry. You couldn't because scum would let a cop live for a day or 2 to be written off as town.

Your plan was flawed.

OMG A FUCKING BRAIN JUST APPEARED IN THE THREAD.

EVERYONE PLEASE SHEEP THIS PERSON PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

[yellowbaron]

There's also another reason other than foxbee's for why town have no reason to trust this strategy but that's not as important as it is to sheep foxbee.

[yellowbaron]

Yea we have a tracker Vedith and Ira who claimed a similar role to Vedith


Someone is lying here

when did this happen?

Shiro is in a hood with them.

Happened during the day in the night talk only hood guys.

More reason to ignore everything Titus posts no matter what her alignment.

[yellowbaron]

Yea we have a tracker Vedith and Ira who claimed a similar role to Vedith


Someone is lying here

when did this happen?

Shiro is in a hood with them.

Happened during the day in the night talk only hood guys.

More reason to ignore everything Titus posts no matter what her alignment.

Wow, one mistake =/= ignore everything I say.

That's just massive discrediting. The Masq wagon isn't just everyone sheeping Titus anyway.

~Titus

Your entire game so far has been:

-misrep people
-throw shade
-many mistakes about many things

I don't care if you're Innocent Child you need to have as little people following anything you say as possible for town to win.

[yellowbaron]

He tried to set up all mages are cops

just so we'd lynch Luna.

??????

There was the entire thing before where people claimed Luna had claimed an investigative role without her actually doing so earlier.

-hebi.

If this is a thing that the Titus head told you happened you should probably re-read the game because Titus is probably wrong.

[yellowbaron]

Omg this head is 10000000x better than Titus at this game.

[yellowbaron]

@YB, On the big if that I'm wrong, town needs to work together. So you need to can the attitude that I'm someone who is always wrong and actually think you have the possibility of being wrong. I am actually quite good at this game if people aren't lying and are honest with each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g20_8-TPyTQ

[yellowbaron]

Maybe Titus shouldn't misrep people for 10 pages in a row while simultaneously endorsing really dumb strategies and then Titus might get a better response.

[yellowbaron]

Also LMAO Titus has me as a scumread and tells me we should work together.

[yellowbaron]

Hebi your post doesn't say the thing that Titus says it says though. That's my point. Titus is making literally no sense whatsoever.

[yellowbaron]

Maybe Titus shouldn't misrep people for 10 pages in a row while simultaneously endorsing really dumb strategies and then Titus might get a better response.

Except that's not what happened. If you could just accept that you aren't all high and mighty and others have ideas that work, this would be fine. You can't though because then you'd have to bus Masq.

~Titus

Um.

Who was the person shouting down everyone who wasn't playing by her strategy in the first place? Gimme a T! Gimme an I! Gimme a T! Gimme an U! Gimme an S!

GOOOOOOOO

TITUS

!

[yellowbaron]

"HEY YELLOWBARON UR SCUM"

"HEY YELLOWBARON U SHOULD WORK WITH ME TOWN NEEDS US TO WORK TOGETHER"

"HEY YELLOWBARON UR SCUM"

~Titus

[yellowbaron]

Tbh all of this megolomania/hysteria Titus has been accusing me of has literally just been her projecting.

Also ROFL I love how I'm literally sheeping foxbee and saying that their ideas are the best and most likely to win us the game and I apparently, "can't accept others have ideas that work"

Yep, got me there!

[yellowbaron]

Oh no...Titusitis is contagious...

RIP Hebi

[yellowbaron]

Tbh all of this megolomania/hysteria Titus has been accusing me of has literally just been her projecting.

Also ROFL I love how I'm literally sheeping foxbee and saying that their ideas are the best and most likely to win us the game and I apparently, "can't accept others have ideas that work"

Yep, got me there!

You're not. Your sheeping is nothing more than a tantrum because you're basically caught scum. So you just personally attack and make the game no fun for people.

Then we lynch a town lurker because policy.

~Titus

You actually think I'm scum?

Truly, you are a gr8 scumhunter.

p-edit: Hebi, the thing Titus is telling you that ABR said isn't what ABR said.

[yellowbaron]

You know when I said we should pretend to get along?
Let's do that be nice to Titus, lynch rad rat and move on.

I think you guys crossed a line at some point awhile ago. I think Titus gets the point.

Please?

Baa! Our lord has spoken. Baa!

[yellowbaron]

Titus thinks I'm caught scum but asks me to co-operate with her.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Titus if you're actually town rn and think I'm scum then you need a dose of your own medicine:

"If you could just accept that you aren't all high and mighty and others have ideas that work, this would be fine."

[yellowbaron]

Luna claimed faction cop.

[yellowbaron]

Told you Titus-itis was contagious, now Hebi isn't even reading the thread either.