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ill.. catch up tonight....Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Ms gambit is null. He does a freaking gambit like this every second game. Just for the record he had done it more as town but that could be because of the simple reason he tends to get town roles mostly lolImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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5 pages in. my mind is burned. weird half claims are already done so uhh... ok.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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cane you guys help my mind by giving a tl;dr fypov? 5 pages in and I have a charizard big headacheImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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wait till weakend for full read. i am 10 pages in and I dont feel there is something much to say about it other than random shit is random. This is madness.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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prodge will start reading all the game in one sitting wish me luck containing my sanity.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 901, T S O wrote:In post 873, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 567, beastcharizard wrote:We are not lynching TSO. That is the answer. Find someone else.
beast townreads TSO for no reason.
that suggests that he and TSO are masons.
so i should out them so that they can be nightkilled cause both of their play is batshit terrible.
if they are scum we should lynch them though
Like what the fuck is this?
No idea.
Read 20pages and.. I won't really comment until I finish this. I lost lots of sanityImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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excpect stuff after ~5 hours if i cna get the last 22 pages in 4 hours and retain m sanityImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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OK I have all today to finish reading.
Time to get this movingImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I give up on catching up 100% since pages come faster than i can read them somewhat.
anyway i will read everything after this post. i will also read the lst 5 pages quickly today or tomorrow.
i wasted too much time :<
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In post 1347, Solar Wind wrote:In post 1345, Cephrir wrote:You say this like you expect Rach to immediately back down and defer to you. I kinda want to ask if that's the case, but actually it has very little to do with my read of you or her, so I guess it's neither here nor there... you can still answer if you feel like it though!
I usually speak up when one of my townreads takes a "he's scum" position on another townread. Offhand I can't remember evernotspeaking up unless the player's case for their vote made me want to soak on it or rethink.
I wanted her to know I disagreed with that vote. I'd hope she would take my opinion into account. I was leaning pretty strongly town on bitmap, mostly due to stuff he posted in the game thread, though his posts in the neighborhood were more reasons to think he's town.
In post 1345, Cephrir wrote:I would love it if you would be more of a presence for a variety of reasons.
I was a strong presence until about 3 calendar days ago, I think. My migraine started calming down just in time for yesterday's blow-up. :/
f-16 and I both plan to work on reads lists today.
Was there something specific you wanted?
In post 1350, Cephrir wrote:In post 1340, FourTrouble wrote:In post 1265, Cephrir wrote:These are both townposting and, surprisingly, I find myself agreeing with them. I'm agreeing with FourTrouble guys, I think we've entered the twilight zone.
Why is agreeing with me surprising?
In both our previous games, I have found your thought processes to be counterintuitive / opposite the way I think as town. I thought you might turn out to be the kind of player I just tend to butt heads with all the time. But maybe I just needed to be town.
if rath happened to listen to him that would confrimed one of them to be scum. town players have that uhh... confbais they cant really get rid off.
and about the 2nd post playstyles may differ. it is the reason there is no 100% scum catching techinqueImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Ceph vs solar is tvtImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 1396, FourTrouble wrote:In post 1372, Cephrir wrote:In post 1369, FourTrouble wrote:In post 1345, Cephrir wrote:Why? I would love an answer that involved meta.
Answer that involves meta: F-16's emotion and timing.
I'm sure you can guess that I'd like more than this. He was plenty emotional in S&S.
I haven't read that game so my read isn't based on that. When I say emotion, what I mean is, first that F-16 is a very emotional player, and second, because of that F-16 has certain emotional characteristics that I don't think he'd ever replicate as scum without having them pointed out by someone else, because they're so understated and genuine and thus go unnoticed. For example, in Mafia on the air, there was a point where Tammy said F-16 would really hate to mislynch me -- that emotion was 100% genuine town emotion, because it's based on F-16 mislynching me a lot (like almost every game we played for over a year until more recently). That kind of emotion also lines up with F-16's feeling bad about mislynching, which is of course null, but it was more particular in my case, so it needed expression, and that the particukarity of the enotion is what made it so understated yet genuine. There wasn't any manipulation involved, which is typically the case with the expression of scum emotions.
There are a few similar moments in this game. F-16's first post, saying "holy fuck we drew town" and then asking if I was town is one of them. Of course, any scum can fake that but I know F-16 had just played with me as scum on a different site, and it kinda sucked because we both prefer playing with each other as town, and it sucks having to deceive one another, so that felt like a genuine emotion that needed expression in relation to a recent game we played. His follow up, wanting to immediately start scumhunting before the game has started just adds to that; you could telll F-16 was excited to play this game, and that's not something he'd feel as scum (might express it, to be sure, but his approach felt genuine). Admittedly, much of this is intuition at this point, but I've played a lot of games with F-16 so it's hard to explain.
The other thing here was F-16's response to Tammy's concerns earlier, starting in 532. F-16's town emotion is on full display. I'll explain that later tonight when I get home if you want; at the moment too busy to reread and explain those posts in-depth.
makes just a little bit sense since if he was using a scum tactic of forgeting ur scum he can fake that. but I can see your pointImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 1440, Solar Wind wrote:The last person who told me they'd be more active tomorrow was scum. :/
Do you mean calendar day tomorrow?
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In post 1426, RachMarie wrote:Falcon and Tammy could you please focus on the game? Seriously it is really hard to sort people out with posts and posts of your personal argument not to mention the fact that then people are having to comment on that rather than figuring out who is scum and who is town which is what we need to do, We also need to start consolidating our votes so we make sure we have a lynch before deadline, preferably one that is not last minute.
Even thou that arguement was counter productive but pehaps it shows a slight pointer to thier allignment?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 1446, theaceofspades wrote:In post 1330, RachMarie wrote:In post 1186, FourTrouble wrote:Vote Tiphaine
I'm gonna give Ceph a chance to catch up, but I'm pretty sure he's scum.
Your case on Mantis was coming in voting someone and splitting? She was then replaced by Cephir so whats up with this read?
In post 850, theaceofspades wrote:Ok i'm here. Finished reading too. Just dumping my thoughts.
First, to xombie's and someone else who i can't remember thing about neighborhoods.Yes plural. This isn't a new mechanic is it? Been done before. Don't think so. Yes they (plural) help me.
MS is pretty much almost obvitown. Idk much about him though.
Bitmap Rach Ihouse imp and solar wind are also fairly strong townreads.
xombie i'm reserving judgement on.
Everyone else is almost as lurky as me. Except in a few cases
Read vezok ISO. Strong townread.
I'll iso the other guys in a moment too
How can you be in more than ONE neighborhood? Sounds like a scum slip to me.
Eh what? Everyone is lurking including me except for those who are not lurking?
VOTE: Ace dude
First concern has been addressed. Multiple times, by multiple people. Apparently you haven't noticed. But either way i'm not answering it again.
Second concern.....makes no sense.
somewhat has a towny feel to the replyImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 1600, Skybird wrote:ZZZX, what are your reads on people so far?
read list + some stuff after i finish studying in 2-3 hours at leastImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Unable to post the promised read list. SorryImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Vote: AceofSpades
I dont usually vote for people i cant read/find null but it seems that with the addition of the deadline and being the most unreadable so far for me I have to do that and try to fully give this game my all in a full night read since this game is going in an insane speed for me. :<Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 2420, theaceofspades wrote:you guys post too much. on page 89. Would vote mastin or beast or stay on AP now. Will read isos for reasons once i finish the thread.
I just hope night is just classic night so I can read without people rocket posting.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 3040, Heartless wrote:In post 3037, Solar Wind wrote:What do you think fueled the last minute AP wagon?
My best guess is the pressure of impending deadline is what motivated most of the votes. The stuff you and Imperium posted previously most likely provided the original spark for the wagon.
pretty much i guessImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 3049, vezokpiraka wrote:In post 3045, ZZZX wrote:In post 3040, Heartless wrote:In post 3037, Solar Wind wrote:What do you think fueled the last minute AP wagon?
My best guess is the pressure of impending deadline is what motivated most of the votes. The stuff you and Imperium posted previously most likely provided the original spark for the wagon.
pretty much i guess
What are you doing?
Who are you townreading?
Who are your primary scumreads?
What is your input on yesterday and today?
Seriously why do you play if you don't post anything?
I might not appear to be doing much but lets say stuff are getting interesting.
anyway my reads are not complete yet. but I feel ms is null/town . Mastin is prob town. and the rest should calm down and actually slow down thier posting lol.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 4050, Ankamius wrote:ZZZX: Nothing. He's basically the most useless slot in the game. My D1 read stands.
Well i appear to be trying to play this power roles wise. this game is too fast to handle normallyImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 4436, Imperium wrote:Yeah. It wasn't that it was too powerful for scum so it made him town, but he thought him more likely scum if that was the version of the role.
If I'm remembering our conversation right.
Are you too sure about everything? It might be a case of not giving all info and/or limitations. i have seen a few of em roles like that. (also this is a general pre read post. Sorry for not doing much yet)Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 4467, mastin2 wrote:Xombie's "where did my vote go" feels stupidly fake. Feels like calculated townslip. Do not like at all.
can confrim that i hate this type of reads that show "fake town slips" i was lynched for doing something like that without knowing.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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game that ended recently with ~7 days and has been runing for 3-4 months: 200 pages
this game day 2: 179 pages
i got rekt.. :>Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 4474, Metal Sonic wrote:Zzzx you used to be top poster and my best friend!! What happened! Now you are worst poster and I have a new best friend called "The Mask"
Hopefully soon I will take back the throne. kinda got fked up in this sem. at uni so I am trying to catch up. But yea I feel bad about myself.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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tbh i wish to know what the hell brambles are...Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Its pretty much a complicated issue about it.
I feel more comfortable speaking in the neighborhood to discuss than the spam feast which is here.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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K so I decided I'll do a full pbpA for one player this week. Who should I do it for?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 4682, mastin2 wrote:
Hey, ZX, know that whole "one or two exceptions" I was talking about?In post 4678, ZZZX wrote:K so I decided I'll do a full pbpA for one player this week. Who should I do it for?
A full pbpA is probably a good example of a fair exception.
If you do it for just one player, sure, in here is fine.
If you do it for every player, then it'd probably be best to do it in the PT, and present the important highlights in-thread since that amount of spam is, well...spam.
If you do it, your decision where it goes, of course.
Makes sense..Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 4779, Heartless wrote:I don't know about Antihero but "changing your mind" is pretty damn low on my priority list.
I'll also go out on a limb here and wager you'll be here a while.
Shouldnt convincing people of what you believe in a pretty important thing for town thou?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 4836, Metal Sonic wrote:that is hypothetical. it is true that i should learn to shut up. but i find that in mafia, it is better to play unrestrained (or at most not break the rules)
I 2nd this. but it does make it harder for those poor souls who cant keep up,. noonetheless it IS a good thing that shows your inneremotionsImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 4956, Ozgin wrote:So I think I have to retract my earlier statement bout Four not being scummy, because after reading a little bit of their ISO, from the gate they seem to be a very try-hard sort of character. Since I'm unfamiliar with the players' meta, I'm not sure if that's just how they play town, or it's a scum trying to overcompensate for the fact they're scum by pushing hard on other people.
Regardless, it stands out to me as something fairly abnormal.
VOTE: FourTrouble
I promise I'll get more into this game as I get time, I just replaced into a really awkward/tough position as a townie and it's really defeating and I have to muster up a lot of evidence if I'm going to build a town case for myself.
i lik dis post,.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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VLA UNTIL SUNDAY
last exam soon (TM)
i am so happehImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I ez back
time to try to do something...Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 5452, Andrius wrote:
Then what do you need the time for? D:
Also don't loverize me tonight I will feel bad coming home to you with blood on my hands. Even with scumblood I cannot bear to touch you with soiled hands.
predit: man it hurts in my heart
I don't particularly regret what ive done
only that I have offended thee
who art good and deserving of my love
"scum intent leaking intensely"Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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@MS how do you think I can catch up to this never ending mess? >.<Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 5535, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Cephrir is scum. He immediately unvoted and voted TD. If he was town, he wouldn't mind lynching a scumread. He's playing for self-preservation.
Are you sure he is not doing it because he had a change of views and/or finds something else a better option? What was Cephrir reasoning for his change?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Ok I decide to stop being useless starting from now
Will read to catch up today. gona pull an all nighter on this shitImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 5969, TheWayItEnds wrote:I should be not voting actually.
I unvoted earlier.
is okay.
I redo.
UNVOTE:
There, that seems like a better use for my vote.
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I see your poi...
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also TWIE vs TSO felt weird. way too calm and non violent for a TvT. Yet not a single side dominating in a sense of TvS. Yet I dont get any reason why scum would do a SvS like that. Its prob a TvT thou..Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6067, T S O wrote:I actually quite agree with ZeL1nk here - everyone covering for each other here is complete nonsense. I don't see why we're trusting mastin's read on ZZZX, for example. mastin hasn't been a particular bastion of town this game.
Tbh as an outsider pov thats true. But our hood is aweasomImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6074, Skybird wrote:In post 6072, ZZZX wrote:In post 6067, T S O wrote:I actually quite agree with ZeL1nk here - everyone covering for each other here is complete nonsense. I don't see why we're trusting mastin's read on ZZZX, for example. mastin hasn't been a particular bastion of town this game.
Tbh as an outsider pov thats true. But our hood is aweasom
What makes your hood awesome? Why are you so sure you guys are all town?
its hard to explain. But lets say we are pretty damn sure that we are all town due to some interesting factorsImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6076, Cephrir wrote:Oh good, interesting factors. How reassuring.
somethings are made not toa ee the sun light.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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btw sky what do you think about hoods atm?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6079, Ankamius wrote:In post 6075, ZZZX wrote:In post 6074, Skybird wrote:In post 6072, ZZZX wrote:In post 6067, T S O wrote:I actually quite agree with ZeL1nk here - everyone covering for each other here is complete nonsense. I don't see why we're trusting mastin's read on ZZZX, for example. mastin hasn't been a particular bastion of town this game.
Tbh as an outsider pov thats true. But our hood is aweasom
What makes your hood awesome? Why are you so sure you guys are all town?
its hard to explain. But lets say we are pretty damn sure that we are all town due to some interesting factors
This applies to every neighborhood saying this, but I'm not going to buy any statements like this until there's a reason to. Saying that you're all town means fuck all, especially when half the game is saying the same thing. If you can prove it, prove it, but otherwise get purged from the game.
Well if you think you want to do it then show ne what you want to do.
I have no reason toe xplain why am I or my hood conf town right now. I more like have reasons not to tell you. As town ill tell it to you straight.
I am not saying a word unless my whole hood agrees. As I am not the person to tell lies as town. any actual questions?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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So you areasaying we are an all scum hood? then why are we in a hood since it makes no sense? If we are making it up doesn't that make everyone in scum team badically dead?
Your moveImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6083, Cephrir wrote:That's not what he's saying at all.
He thinks we all are scum.
If we alla re scum then it just wouldn't make sense
Whate lse is he's saying?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6085, Skybird wrote:ZZZX, there's definitely scum out there in the hoods somewhere. There's a possibility that there is scum in my hood. I'm pretty confident MS is town, but I don't know about TWIE.
But I have reasons strong enough to believe in my hoodImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6089, Imperium wrote:In post 6075, ZZZX wrote:In post 6074, Skybird wrote:In post 6072, ZZZX wrote:In post 6067, T S O wrote:I actually quite agree with ZeL1nk here - everyone covering for each other here is complete nonsense. I don't see why we're trusting mastin's read on ZZZX, for example. mastin hasn't been a particular bastion of town this game.
Tbh as an outsider pov thats true. But our hood is aweasom
What makes your hood awesome? Why are you so sure you guys are all town?
its hard to explain. But lets say we are pretty damn sure that we are all town due to some interesting factors
"Pretty damn sure"? Then what the hell was mastin going on about with the 100% number?
I told you. Its complicatedImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Scumreading all three of you does not equal positing that all of you are scum. You said.
However unless we are all scum then our hoods proofs show that we are all townImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6086, Espeonage wrote:We had a chat earlier about the hoods overall, and we are in the process of testing a theory.
However we did get told very clearly by Dram to respect his fertile mind. And I have a personal theory that given the power that everyone seems to have that we actually have a type of hidden smalltown thing going. Which I think is probably the easiest non-arbitrary way of doing it. And it fits with the theory being tested.
Regardless, using neighbourhoods for scum hunting is bad.
Its notthat simple
P-edit I was busy anf this game was 10 times faster than I expected but guess what?
I drew town also my inactivity is ib the same period as recks game. Check it out
P-edit : nastine is more like 95% to me. But I am 100% to him. Xombie is a 100 for both of usImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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But I can be able to confirm it soon enoughImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6098, Nachomamma8 wrote:Are either of you a 100% to Xombie?
Ask him. I think so at peast unless he dodnt tell us about aomething.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6101, TheWayItEnds wrote:In post 6073, Cephrir wrote:In post 6037, ZZZX wrote:
I see your poi...
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also TWIE vs TSO felt weird. way too calm and non violent for a TvT. Yet not a single side dominating in a sense of TvS. Yet I dont get any reason why scum would do a SvS like that. Its prob a TvT thou..
I wanted to respond to that with something other than just a facepalm. But I literally couldnt think of another way to aptly do so.
whi?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 6104, TheWayItEnds wrote:when
either this day or next one? not sure tbh. its complicated as i told yoImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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