Touhou: MitLoF ~ Makai Mix (Game Over)

[Sakura Hana]

Dreams has been so scummy from my POV

-claims he doesnt hold/cant keep
-fishing for conf towns
-voting someone who he thinks is a mason

Pedit - plz no troll answers i want real ones

@curiosity how would you react if i ignored all your questions directed at me

Pedit

Why scum read me and om
Why hide your reasons on me and nom
Why fish for masons


I may have found town motives in his posts but i dont want to reveal anything yet. Also i want him to answer my questions before i mpve my vote

Pedit unvote mostly conf'd my theory

Uh-huh

[Sakura Hana]

Now i know why Brian Skyes lashed out at me when i wanted to read notty.

[Sakura Hana]

So basically applying his scum meta to you?
Or doing scummy things and applying them to you?

[Sakura Hana]

What's the actual probability about Kagami being scum? I liked her latest posts, but everyone keeps saying she's scum...

[Sakura Hana]

I didn't see the linked game in the QT. I obviously wouldn't lie about it if I had, especially given notty is in this game.

QT post # 34
I dunno why but that statement doesnt sit right with me because I figure you'd look hard enough before mentioning it as a lie.

[Sakura Hana]

Ugh it's 4 am, im gonna go to sleep X_X

[Sakura Hana]

So you want to let Saki coast another entire DP without even making a single vote nor doing anything?

[Sakura Hana]

also @Sakura: haaaaalp

yo Sakura, what do you think about Ank? I'm really conflicted on the read I'm getting from him and I'm stuck at university for a while so I wanna compare notes.

Will get to that when i have time, currently doing you know what in you know where.

[Sakura Hana]

Ok i'm around.
My Ankamius read has been going on and off, first i felt like he was just being inactive and throwing potshots, but now it feels like he's been contributing more, I still don't see what reason he could've had for defending Kagami yesterday, could be because he knew Kagami was town because i don't remember him ever playing with Kagami.
Hey pie do you think this is the same Saki as Tit for Tat, or is it more like the Saki from Ikaruga?
Thing with Saki is that if i remember correctly in Ikaruga he hasn't voted a single thing since game start, and hasn't posted any content, which saves him from possible VCAs and could be because he doesn't want to be involved in anything (like scum).

Also im totes gonna be a revel and post from my main until Nacho decides to come and post

[Sakura Hana]

One thing that caught my attention in Ikaruga while I was dead, is that Saki started getting votes and suddenly starts contributing, then SKOT was all like "OMG IF A FEW VOTES MAKE YOU START CONTRIBUTING I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU GET TO L-1" So I kinda wanna take a similar approach here, because i don't know if there's any other way, I gave him a summary of what had happened in D1 and then he did nothing with it and proceeded to continue to do nothing.

Gotta run to the shop, be back in 5 to talk about ankamius

[Sakura Hana]

Posts from Cbot i've liked:

Spoiler:

Are they your only two scum reads?

That's kinda weak for a secondary scumread out of two in a list of around 20 people.

The opportunism is real.

Look at the end of the pieguy wagon. There's def scum in there.

1. He was willing to sheep Wisdom on Alchemist town through Day 1, yet as soon as Wisdom flipped his town and scumreads on Alch and Om, he immediately tried to get the reasoning for Om. This doesn't look town because he only decided that Alch was scummier (Wisdom had the same reasons, by the way) once Wisdom explained the Om read. If he was town, I'd expect that unless he's hiding something really important, he'd discard the reason for not finding Alch as scummy (Wisdom's townread on him) immediately and go back to voting Alchemist immediately. I don't understand why he had to be convinced that Om and Alch are not partners to switch off of Om.

Or maybe I've been scumreading both for quite a while. And I'm not convinced that Om and Alch aren't partners. As for changing my vote when conftown gives me reasoning... Well.

The way you've been switching your votes are what I'm attacking, not your reads.

I'll look into npiau sometime later. His Saki defense is giving me some bad vibes.

BTW I have not forgotten about Jingle. I don't feel like trying to do anything that requires too many page flips on a tablet.

P-Edit: Yeah Saki may be scum together with NPIAU. But I kind of wonder why defend instead of bus, perhaps saki has a stronger role than NPIAU?

[Sakura Hana]

Remember when i said earlier about the wagon on you suddenly raising when I voted you?
Something like that, and I have the feeling that Ankamius had the same gut feeling about the wagon.

[Sakura Hana]

Remember when i said earlier about the wagon on you suddenly raising when I voted you?
Something like that, and I have the feeling that Ankamius had the same gut feeling about the wagon.

er, wasn't this also what he thought about Kagami? he mentioned he didn't like the speed of the wagon and the general sentiment towards Kagami being not town.

The Kagami wagon didnt reaise nearly as fast as yours?
Also Kagami didnt have someone yelling "Guilty" and trying to rolefish Curiosity >_>

[Sakura Hana]

NPIAU has been kinda nullish to me until he defended Saki, which makes me think there's a connection there, he'd rather appear scummy by defending Saki than busing, so my guess is that Saki would be the better lynch of the 2.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm not sure I get your point here. at this point he's either scum WK'ing both of us or he figured out both of us were town. he can't scum-WK Kagami while being town figuring out I'm town.

then again I'm tired as hell right now so I might be misinterpreting this

Wasn't he always good at reading you tho, the sketchy part is him WK'ing Kagami imo.

what did you think of 2855?

he's been tunneling Jingle all game so far, nothing new.

[Sakura Hana]

Is there anything else you want to ask me before i go take a nap?

[Sakura Hana]

Before I do anything else, why is AD being wagoned?

I'm voting him because he said he claimed masons as a neighbor and told Beeboy to go along with it.

Did you even read the QT he linked earlier where he did something similar?

[Sakura Hana]

He did when i requested it.

[Sakura Hana]

See guys, 1 vote makes Saki do "something", we need more!

[Sakura Hana]

I said hi during D1, why do I need to say hi again.
Are you gonna do something or not.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh wait, i thought i said hi when i gave you the tl;dr ah well w/e, I don't see why you bring this up about me saying hi tho.

[Sakura Hana]

I don't think you talking for having your vote on you is alignment indicative, what i think is that having a vote on you so you start talking then I can tell your alignment from you starting to do stuff.
Because you did the same thing both in Tit for Tat and Ikaruga.

[Sakura Hana]

Also if you're town why do you care about being scumread for start talking?

[Sakura Hana]

what are your reads then?

[Sakura Hana]

pie's masons with curiosity.

[Sakura Hana]

What's your read on NPIAU?

[Sakura Hana]

nopointinactungup

[Sakura Hana]

something like that with less typos.

[Sakura Hana]

and why are you posting out of hydra

is nacho...*sniff*

Nacho hasn't posted at all all game except like a couple of posts D1 and then dissapeared, and it's annoying to swap accounts all the time to post.
NPIAU isnt a replacement, he's been here since the start.

[Sakura Hana]

if i start hardline townposting (or try to) after coming back from lurking like I did in Ikaruga how would you read that

Why instead of asking me not try checking it out.

[Sakura Hana]

In either case why you think NPIAU is town? I've had him as null and then he went to null-scum with that sudden defense on you.

[Sakura Hana]

Let's start with the fact that i didn't think your posts in Ikaruga were townposting, specially that attack on Rach when Rach was being obvtown all game. The reasoning im telling you to just do it instead of asking me it's because I currently am leaning town on you, and I think it's better for everyone that you start posting and getting involved, and also because I hate it when ppl spend days not using their vote nor discussing, It's one of the main weapons for players in Mafia and you should know that.

[Sakura Hana]

she really was not
I knew she was town 'cause I was SK but that's beside the point

This doesnt hold any water "Cause i was SK" mostly coz there was another scum team.
But eh, maybe I know Rach better than you do.
I was spoiled yes, but it was sometime after Thor was lynched, by then I already had a scumread on you.

[Sakura Hana]

I had you as probtown for a good majority of FEA tho that may be biased coz you came and defended me and i lost motivation midway until Cabd got NK'd, then again that happened a long time ago.
I kind of prefer you when you post a lot without trolling, than when you lurk, easier to read you that way.

[Sakura Hana]

If it makes you feel better i thought you were groupscum not SK or other stuff.

[Sakura Hana]

first people want me to shut up, then now they want me to post again
T^T

Who has said they want you to shut up?
Also Why does shutting up extend to not reading the game?

[Sakura Hana]

no need to post = no need to read

Really now?

[Sakura Hana]

Now if i see you lurking again just because I unvoted you then next time I vote you i wont unvote again.

[Sakura Hana]

but what's all this om hype about

Maybe iso him?

[Sakura Hana]

but what's all this om hype about

Maybe iso him?

I have to play DNest now though

Dragon nest isnt going to take you all night, neither will ISOing Om, you have time to do both things.

[Sakura Hana]

Well Nacho hasn't come to play either... i feel ya there u.u

PEd: Yes that's reimu.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh wait nvm that doesn't have armpits.

[Sakura Hana]

Well at least seems we can all agree on lynching om
*yaaawn*
Modding maps on osu! takes some time sorry for my abscence, but nothing was happening anyway.

[Sakura Hana]

modding maps is different but similar to making beatmaps, just saying
This is what i'm talking about: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3460490/

[Sakura Hana]

Bad sakura. Fei was supposed to make post 3126.

Why?

[Sakura Hana]

Oh well if you need any help with that feel free to talk to me in there, im pretty much online all the time nowadays.
Anyway, what were you guys arguing about last page?

[Sakura Hana]

Why do i walk into stuff that i know full well it's going to hurt me, now im not in a good mood today like at all

[Sakura Hana]

Why do i walk into stuff that i know full well it's going to hurt me, now im not in a good mood today like at all

Scratch that, im probably going to be gone/low activity for at least a month.

[Sakura Hana]

I rather change my vote now since idk when ill have time for this, which of the 2 do you think i should vote?

[Sakura Hana]

Hey I have about 15 minutes or so, I don't remember my hydra password so i can't access it from this pc tho.

i'm also guessing that's pretty good confirmation since i'm flicking through the touhou wiki and there are clear cut villains who are probably the scumteam of this game

Shinki would be scum if this was the case, do you think that the mod would confirm shinki's flavor if flavor could be used to determine alignment?

[Sakura Hana]

So what has happened here lately? Don't have time to read all but i read something about a guilty or something.

[Sakura Hana]

Rest assured though, because Nonon is a confirmed scum slot

oh

[Sakura Hana]

Fake claiming? are you sure about that?

[Sakura Hana]

then haj is insane cop, meaning that town will come off as scum and vice versa. Or paranoid, which means everyone comes off as scum.

thats all im getting from this.

What makes you so sure it's a cop type of guilty?

[Sakura Hana]

On top of that what makes you think there's a non-sane cop.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura -- give me a run down on why Saki-town?
I'm really leaning scum on him.

~M

Because of the way he wanted my opinion on how my read on him would change, other than that he's pretty much null because he's doing this flaking twice that i remember X_X

P-Edit: I thought sanities were only on bastards?
P-Edit x2: Yeah that.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean of all the possibilities (Tracker/Watcher misinterpretation, Cop redirection) the only thing you can come up is that he's non-sane cop? that sounds off.

[Sakura Hana]

Well Hej doesn't want to claim so we can only speculate...
hmm....
I'll think about Saki, but i dont have much time right now, much less to go read the PT to verify what you said (unless it's pretty short)

[Sakura Hana]

Preedit: 3 Hi scum! and No.

How can you miss something like that.

[Sakura Hana]

k g2g now, sorry.

[Sakura Hana]

Wtf, no, Gaiden is town.
Gaiden scumplay is very different.

[Sakura Hana]

and why gaiden needed to state he/she forgot to use an action?

Because town gaiden is derp like that.

[Sakura Hana]

why can't people defend me like this

Because you're derp as either alignment XP

[Sakura Hana]

Also i should be

modding maps

be doing something else, but I came here to talk since i'm usually not around.

[Sakura Hana]

I can take an Alch lynch.

[Sakura Hana]

Also i should be

modding maps

be doing something else, but I came here to talk since i'm usually not around.

Mafia is 10x more important then your circle clacking games

But it's my job :<

[Sakura Hana]

Wtf. We have to lynch haj right now. There is no way in hell he can fake that and get away with it.

Do you have proof he is faking?

@Alchemist: Idk what to think of it, and at this point i don't care that much, my mind's completely drifted somewhere else because i don't have much time to pay attention to this game and Nacho is nowhere.

[Sakura Hana]

no
ive been after Alchemist for ages and nobody's listening, now suddenly everyone saw the light?

~Wis

Something about his play here and the fact that we were scumbuddies before.

[Sakura Hana]

Wrong quote, meh, i shouldnt even be here.
*runs*

[Sakura Hana]

Something about his play here and the fact that we were scumbuddies before.

And why does this only come now, when there's heat on him?

~Wis

Because the game just finished.

[Sakura Hana]

Ugh, i'm not sure if i can keep up with this anymore and i currently have stuff scaring me shitless

[Sakura Hana]

He most likely has issues with my read on Gaiden because he wants to have as a possible mislynch options.
(Holy shit i read something)

[Sakura Hana]

Nacho hasn't been in this thread much that I've seen

Try never.
Aside from 2 posts on D1...
It's his lack of pressence that has me so annoyed to the point of considering to never hydra ever again in my life.

[Sakura Hana]

I think AD and Om are scum buddies and that's why om now wants beeboy instead.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: purple hero

whoops

Antihero's town unless his scumgame has substantially improved which i doubt.

[Sakura Hana]

could you plz link me the games where you played with scum!anti?

Off the top of my head Chain of command from which he barely posted and then replaced out. (can be found on my wiki)
There was another one I THINK but i don't remember the name atm and dont have time to look for it.

[Sakura Hana]

so if there is only half a game you have completed with scum!anti and another 1 you can't remember what makes you feel certain in the legitimacy of your read?

My point is that if he was scum he'd have flaked and/or replaced out.

[Sakura Hana]

Sure hold on

[Sakura Hana]

hey alchemist!

what part of nc do you live in?

also why do you think i am scum?

notty you are still not doing our thing. you are still avoiding me and getting all hostile

This is incredibly creepy.

im quite happy with a kagami lynch today btw

That was an odd thought progression: do you think Kagami and Alchemist are scum together?

Those are the only 2 posts he made.

[Sakura Hana]

thats silly sakura, you mean anti will always replace out when scum?

~Wis

Or flake, from personal experience anyway he never gets invested into the game when he's scum.
I used this tell on Dark Age of the Law too and was right.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh and Ikaruga (I kept telling MS the necromancers were town because of anti's posts)

[Sakura Hana]

For starters Nacho had only read the page and maybe the page before when he made those 2 posts, he didnt read anything else and when I asked for his thoughts he didn't reply.
If you really wanna try to lynch me for what nacho said back then that's your very own problem, but as I said back then you've been mostly ignoring everything i've done this game so it's not like it matters to me.

[Sakura Hana]

Yes you have, you even blatantly admited that you only cared about the Nacho side of my slot.

[Sakura Hana]

So I finally some time for this game and everyone's silent X_X

[Sakura Hana]

Yes you have, you even blatantly admited that you only cared about the Nacho side of my slot.

because I do. but I DO pay attention to you as well and so far you are coasting.

I've been V/LA?
Maybe i should really just stop playing here and just go mod beatmaps on osu! really...

[Sakura Hana]

Blow a horn and make a callout to Nacho.

Not this again...
Sigh.
People arent even trying to read me at all.

But ok i messaged nacho on skype again.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Alch

So how did you go from AD IS OBVSCUM!!! on top of a guilty to let's lynch Alch instead?
Why isn't AD dead yet? pie's town, so ergo they are telling the truth, and ergo their guilty is true as well, i'm pretty sure wisdom wouldn't pull some BS, he's not best town performance for no reason.

[Sakura Hana]

[Sakura Hana]

gaiden scumslipped

Gaiden's town.

Why are people unvoting AD?

Why the fuck is he still alive?

^
QFT

[Sakura Hana]

Why are people unvoting AD?

UNVOTE:

Well i guess you just answered yourself.

[Sakura Hana]

I think i can safely acknowledge that mollie's worth ignoring for the rest of the game, even with me not reading the game much i know more than her.

[Sakura Hana]

methinks that the death from the desperado is the same as a weak role death, and those can be healed by doctors.

[Sakura Hana]

i just dont think that pushing that angle confirms him as scum

Weak role death is passive too and can be stopped by a doctor.
Hider death is passive, but can't be stopped by a doctor because hider can't be targeted while hiding.
Methinks Desperado works like the weak role death.

[Sakura Hana]

Ok im just talking to a wall here, call me again when you're done yelling.

[Sakura Hana]

what about doctor healing curiosity? did you list that one?
Eh, whatever, Dan is still scum anyway so who cares

[Sakura Hana]

since when can weak role death get blocked by a doctor?

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/240614 ~whistles~
There are probably a few other examples from actually MS, but i can't remember them atm, Medical Mafia Open comes to mind tho.

[Sakura Hana]

(the game Sakura linked is the first time I've seen otherwise)

I did also mention Medical Mafia JUST SAYING: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Medical_Mafia

Weak Doctor dies if it targets a Mafia Goon

(and isn't protected themself)

Anyway yeah it happens.
Just stop trying to argue that point, Dan is scum for different reasons.

[Sakura Hana]

See mollie you're not following the game.
You're voting masons that Jingle inno crumbed and you didnt read Jingle's role flip.

[Sakura Hana]

If that's just jingle reading the thread why did he die over masons?

[Sakura Hana]

If that's just jingle reading the thread why did he die over masons?

Scum misread it
Scum want to frame Masons
Masons are scum and reaching for cred after rolecopping him

That's for starters...

You're reaching

[Sakura Hana]

For your thought process to make sense you must assume that
1) He actually didnt crumb inno
2) Scum thought it was an inno crumb
3) Masons arent actually masons
5) Scum just got lucky with their kill
6) Time is lying about telling Jingle to scan Curiosity
7) Time is scum
8) Time knows Jingle's alignment
9) Time knew who his subordinate was.

That's quite a lot of assumptions.

[Sakura Hana]

Wrong.

I must asdume that

1) Crumb did not exist.
2) Scum thought it did.
3) Scum killed who they thought was cop.
4) Jingle rejected the mission bc he thought the investigation target sucked or thought Time was scum or thought Wisdom was obvious or...
5) Scum killed Jingle bc crumb mistake.

Gamestate is the same.

You're missing the fact that time claimed to be controlling Jingle without know who they were controlling nor their alignment and that they ordered them to inspect curiosity n1
Jingle was the ONLY person to say something relatively close to an inno crumb wrt curiosity D2.
So there

[Sakura Hana]

Really and here i thought i was the most paranoid player ever, but Titus can take that medal now "EVERYBODY'S LYING" srsly

[Sakura Hana]

And so titus lost her head.
Oh well there's still PV in there (i hope)

[Sakura Hana]

A godfather in the scumteam with captain scum telling jingle to scan the godfather.
That's quite an itneresting theory but too farfetched if not for the fact that i used a similar tactic in madoka.

[Sakura Hana]

Bah screw this im just gonna go to sleep, i have a headache...

[Sakura Hana]

How many times do I have to tell you Gaiden's town orz
I'd vote mastin but i don't even know how many votes she has because everyone's been voting her so fast and i don't want to end the day so quick.

[Sakura Hana]

top is maybescum

Did you just call a mason maybescum, or was this talking about a different list.

[Sakura Hana]

EBWODP: Nevermind

[Sakura Hana]

Are you sure you're not this person mastin: http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Ichirin_Kumoi

Anyway, idk mastin, i've been trying to get Nacho in here, it's pretty much impossible, and it's more frustrating that everyone just wants to get in touch with nacho, yeah i know he's THE nacho, but i exist too, but i always get dumped by my hydra partners anyway, i'm probably just too bothersome to play with, I probably won't hydra ever again, heck i don't know why I'm still playing mafia anyways, i should've quit when i said i was going to quit.

Getting frustrated by this situation + my situation offsite isnt doing anything good to lift my mood, everything i've been asked lately is all regarding nacho, i don't see why i should even bother playing here if im just gonna be just "there".

[Sakura Hana]

mollie did the same thing tho, and outside of that no one's tried to interact with me ever since i went V/LA. Outside of asking me nacho related stuff... yeah... i probably shouldn't even be here anyways i dont even make a difference.

[Sakura Hana]

and sakura what happened to working with me in this game

I wanted to, but you poofed again.

[Sakura Hana]

Like... i don't know if i have the most terrible luck ever or what, but i've hardly found any reason to do anything here, no one pays any attention to what i do, but mollie suddenly finds the 2 nacho posts like the scummiest thing ever, mastin thinks something i did is a nacho bus, but figures nacho hasn't been here at all, everything i've done is me, yet people keep attaching nacho to it because we're in hydra, nacho this, nacho that, the only people here who's treated me as Sakura are pie, wis and saki.

[Sakura Hana]

Are you sure you're not this person mastin: http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Ichirin_Kumoi

mastin this was directed at you

[Sakura Hana]

mastin, om, are the only ones i have atm, anything else could be thrown in there by PoE (beast, alchemist, time, birds, ankamius, maaaaybe mollie)

[Sakura Hana]

Vote: mastin

[Sakura Hana]

inb4 gif doesnt count it because it's not mononoke

[Sakura Hana]

oh just what we needed...

~Wis

Do you know him?

[Sakura Hana]

Haven't paid much attention orz too busy with stuff can you link it?

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura Hana ditches nacho.
(aka Sakura Hana replaces Mononoke)

Thank youuuu! /o/

[Sakura Hana]

Who did Aronis replace?

[Sakura Hana]

Who did Aronis replace?

Well I was a part of Time, but my partner disappeared, so I replaced Time.

So I suppose like me.
Ah well.
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Maybe i should sheep pie.

[Sakura Hana]

Actually pie's voting Titus
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Maybe not, i rather lynch om or mastin atm
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Or who knows
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I... feel lost.

[Sakura Hana]

What is with that catchup anyway, I haven't had time to check it

Unvote

Guess i'll just trust pie for now until i can be fully invested in the game again.
Why is Titus scum?

[Sakura Hana]

Idk how to read Titus anyway I always read her as scum except on the one game where she was actually scum.
PV feels like he would be solving the game already if he was town so maybe BoP is actually scum, but they replaced in into a lot of pages so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt for now.
I think Om needs to die first.

Vote: Om

[Sakura Hana]

What a long night...
So i guess pie's confirmed desperado too now.

[Sakura Hana]

mastin, om, are the only ones i have atm, anything else could be thrown in there by PoE (beast, alchemist, time,

birds

,

ankamius

, maaaaybe mollie)

Going to trust pie on Time/Aronis so
Moving on towards Alchemist.

Vote: DGB

[Sakura Hana]

Wait no, but om's voting DGB........

Unvote

ugh need to rethink.

[Sakura Hana]

Vote: Om

[Sakura Hana]

Because I don't think this is townposting-DGB.

How to read DGB orz

[Sakura Hana]

Yes Anti was town in Ikaruga.

[Sakura Hana]

Why are you grasping at straws to find a reason to scumread someone.
Then again with the way you're talking about Anti you could easily have tried to frame them.
But then me and pie would have #rekt you.

I feel so lost in this game, and here when i finally get time to talk, I don't even know what to talk about.

[Sakura Hana]

Why are you grasping at straws to find a reason to scumread someone.

where do you think he was grasping at straws? I don't particularly have any problems with his recent posts, actually. although that might just be bc I'm still awake at 8 fucking AM -.-

also, what are your thoughts on Saki?

I don't remember much about Saki except from back then, still thinking town.

sigh maybe i should replace out too

[Sakura Hana]

I feel like I should just do a full reset and pretend nothing happened in the last couple game days and take it from here.

[Sakura Hana]

where do you think he was grasping at straws?

5759

[Sakura Hana]

I barely played Ikaruga tho, so I wasn't there to defend Anti and Metal Sonic kept thinking he was scum when i talked with him.

[Sakura Hana]

@pie: idk it's just a feeling i got when i read that post because it seemed like he wanted DGB/mastin to be scumread or something.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm getting this feeling that I don't even know what I'm dong anymore, I feel as if this game has lasted for ages and I can barely remember much of it, moreover im not even sure if i'm enjoying playing this at all compared to what i'm doing offsite, should i try to get back in gear here or should i just exit...

[Sakura Hana]

I'm getting this feeling that I don't even know what I'm

doing

anymore, I feel as if this game has lasted for ages and I can barely remember much of it, moreover im not even sure if i'm enjoying playing this at all compared to what i'm doing offsite, should i try to get back in gear here or should i just exit...

Fixed that for me

[Sakura Hana]

I really don't like the idea of confirming someone as town because of the modkill threat, but i can see why you'd think that, and I agree.

[Sakura Hana]

Moreover, if you are town, it is shit like this that makes me want to just give up and quit this fucking site entirely. I would rather just quit than consistently play in games where no one ever values my thoughts, and when it's obvious me being in games and pushing reads differently just winds up annoying people, even when I try really hard to work with town over it.

This reminds me of me in Hope+1

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: St. Constantine

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

VOTE: mastin2

Vote: Saki

(x2).

VOTE: mastin2

VOTE: dgb

VOTE: DrippingGoofBall.
(x1; UNZAN remains on Saki.)

So basically D7 (N6? idk) and we are still are all over the place wrt who the last scum are?

[Sakura Hana]

Hey mastin didn't you say DGB was town before? I remember asking you how to read DGB.

[Sakura Hana]

Because I don't think this is townposting-DGB.

How to read DGB orz

Oh nevermind.
Didn't you say you agreed with pie about DGB making no sense as scum because alchemist replace out and what not?

[Sakura Hana]

I guarantee you I'll follow this

, but if you're that concerned, best not leave any wiggle room on the subject at all.
"Huh. What do you mean, wiggle room? My reads are quite clear!"

Bold is mine.
Ok, yeah no.

Vote: mastin2

[Sakura Hana]

TO THE REST OF TOWN: Please read this interaction and make sure mastin actually fucking follows through when she says she's willing to trust my reads. If she is scum, she is planning on doing exactly the opposite - backtracking on it and hoping no one calls her on it. Please don't allow her to do that, just please fucking don't. That's all I ask, really.

[Sakura Hana]

So is everybody just going to stand there staring at each other until we lynch Saki?

[Sakura Hana]

So Gaiden i assume you targeted me last night?

[Sakura Hana]

Ok i can confirm Gaiden's role, so idk where Saki got said info from.

[Sakura Hana]

Suika Light 1-Shot commuter (already commuted)

[Sakura Hana]

sxthl is really slimy

What is this supposed to mean.

[Sakura Hana]

We already crossed out possibilities of a 3rd party, also i confirmed Gaiden's role (reverser or whatever that thing is) not his alignment.

[Sakura Hana]

Has everyone claimed yet?

Sakura might need to, idk about anyone else.

Suika Light 1-Shot commuter (already commuted)

[Sakura Hana]

why did you rule out 3rd party?

Something about there not being a 2nd kill like ever (aside from the mason's desperado shots), and the current flipped people being referred to as Light or Dark aligned.

Vote: DGB

No clue where else to go here... and might as well try to stop being useless.

[Sakura Hana]

mfw im V/LA and im the 3rd most active this game day...

[Sakura Hana]

I'm still town, so who is scum according to you now that I have added this information?

If you're town then either
A) I misread Gaiden (which is quite unlikely) and he had a very awkward timing to role claim.
B) orc is faking it very well.

Pretty much my current pool of scumspects goes DGB > Aronis >>>>>> orc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaiden.

[Sakura Hana]

Why is gaiden town again?

I already explained this long ago, but...
1) Im pretty accurate when reading Gaiden, i've never misread him ever yet.
2) His ISO this game is quite different from the ISO on his other scum games (like the first touhou mafia in the land of fantasy where he was scum).
3) An already flipped scum tried to discredit my read on Gaiden arguing against me and pie about it.

[Sakura Hana]

I think Mastin or someone made point 3 as well

Why is aronis second on your list? There is that "n1 doesn't make sense for aronis scum" argument

Time/Aronis play hasn't left much of an impression on me, and i dont really know where else to go, i've been disconnected from this game for a while due to being heavily busy irl and off-site, i'm not going to dismiss it, but he's kept letting said play carry him for a while, which is why i prefer to start with DGB.

Now see, from my PoV
I am town, beeboy's town, Gaiden's town.... that leaves you, aronis and DGB, unless there's 1 scum you saying that Aronis is town leaves it to you and DGB as scum.
I'm not sure what DGB's plan was with the "scum didn't send NK" stuff when it's obvious that the mod said "

NIGHT KILLS ARE DISABLED TONIGHT

" dunno if she wanted to use it as an excuse to lynch an inactive or V/LA player, but no one's that stupid, it's been baffling me but i think she's just out of ammo at this point...

[Sakura Hana]

Also at this point im just so busy that i just want this game to end, 1 or 2 scum idc it's just 1 more DP, and i don't want to let someone replace into such a big game (kudos to you for replacing in btw), so i voted DGB to at least not be useless all this DP. Then i can stop being a burden for everyone.

[Sakura Hana]

HOW WAS THERE NO NK???????????????????????

I mean you're really trying too hard to pretend you're dense.

Saki

, with Byakuren Hijiri (

Light Martyr

), was sent to gap Day 7.

Spoiler: Role PM

Hello,

Saki

.
It is nice to see you again.

You are with

Byakuren Hijiri (Light Martyr)

.

BGM: Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind

Powers:

• Martyr:
  Everyone will be immune to nightkills of any sort the night after your lynch. The effect will only last for one night.

Win condition:

• You win when all the non-Light factions are eliminated.

Now it's night 7.

All kills are disabled this night

The deadline is December 16, 11 PM EST.
Countdown: (expired on 2014-12-16 23:00:00)

All kills are disabled this night

[Sakura Hana]

Nice to see that i actually played well as scum, unfortunately i don't have much time for mafia anymore orz

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah, you can release the scum QT, i agree.

[Sakura Hana]

That would be nice, but as i said, i don't have much time for mafia anymore, i was pretty scared i'd be caught on the last day since i had forgotten pretty much of all the reads and progress i had faked and made some silly mistakes im surprised the lynch didnt shift in my direction after orc questioned me.

[Sakura Hana]

Also 3 scum games in a row srsly u.u

[Sakura Hana]

Also pie, don't feel so bad really, I feel like after the madoka game on osu! i was finally able to improve my scumgame, was glad to finally put that into practice here, but unfortunately off-site + real life stuff hit midway through the game

[Sakura Hana]

for lulz

im tempted to lolvig Sakura

and if you lolvig (<- autocorrected to loli. WTF) Sakura, I'll just laugh at you really hard when you invariably die and watch as you think about how dumb it was

Was that night 1? the night i was like "I feel like i should use my commute"
I actually commuted the night pie was shooting JUST IN CASE pie got paranoid of me and decided to shoot me instead.

[Sakura Hana]

I've been wondering tho, if i had used my strongman shot the night after Saki got lynched would it have worked?

[Sakura Hana]

It's been bothering me because Saki's role pm flip says "All players are protected against night kills" but the mod message said "All night kills are disabled", strongman ignores both roleblocks and protections so i was wondering, in fact in many ocassions i was like "whyyy did i waste a strongman on Dreams" when i learned about saki's role.

[Sakura Hana]

Also "Your [No Action] has been reversed to [No Action]" was cute.
But then i realized Gaiden could potentially roleblock a nightkill by reversing it into a protect so i had him die JUST IN CASE. I was worried that he'd try to reverse beeboy and then i'd have to face off alone against everyone.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh and in case you guys were wondering.
Nyctapolis with notscience
That pick your poison or whatever with pieguy
This game with Nacho

Those are the games i've been dumped by my partner (funny all of them were scum games)
There's also 3 scum games in a row (pick your poison, madoka, this one)

God seems like my luck on 2014 just ran dry. Good thing it's 2015 now. (Happy new year btw)

[Sakura Hana]

Well, when you feel like you have time for a game again, my offer stands

That probably won't happen for months orz it depends on a lot of factors too. But i'll certainly ask you when i have time again.

[Sakura Hana]

Also @pie: You don't suck at reading me, it's just that i've improved, if you think about it that way you dont blame yourself for that, instead say i managed to fool you and it wont be as easy next time

(although tbh i think my towngame is gonna go to crap after 3 scum games in a row)