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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:35 am

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In post 1286, nopointinactingup wrote:This game ...

Skimmed through the pages. Here's what I thought:
-notty's initial gambit = town
-mollie vs curio is tvt. Mollie's rage doesnt look scum and neither does wisdom's response to that
-dream, mono, purple is slighish town because their resoning make sense
-bee is newb alright lol. Not too confident town or scum but he got some weird reasoning though that doesnt look coming from town
Dont like the Kagami wagon. Don't see any case on him. Votes going in too fast for the amount of reasoning provided.
VOTE: beebip
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I'm glad ourple hero brought up this post. It's full of town reads and reasons for those reads but there's no reason given for the vote, nor are any scumreads listed.

I'll oblige Haj with a reads list, primarilySo right now I have for scum:

OM - suspecting the mod-confimred player
Nopoint - Placing a scumvote amidst a slew of townreads
Beast - pushing a scumread in Beeboy for something that's null-town, and any other pushes have been weak
Mollie - my weakest scumread, mostly based on what multiple people posted about her meta

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Ank - making an effort despite not being able to keep up with the thread
Beeboy - reads noobtown to me
Notty - again, based on what multiple people have posted about their meta
Haj - probtown trying to pull off some vague-post reaction test (I'm probably a bit softer on him than I should be because his blatant stubborness actually made me laugh at first)

Jingle's and Nonon's post read null to me. Nothing they've done seems to be alignment motivated. Nonon was pushing Haj for reasons for his vote, but I think that a player would do that as either alignment.

Anyone else is null because I haven't really looked into them yet.
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:36 am

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In post 1342, pirate mollie wrote:I also reread the early exchanges between mala and I and I am at a loss as to how she could say she was just joking unless ridiculing is somehow supposed to be funny. ridicule is usually just that; ridicule.


yeah, i think mala's scum, but apparently mara is invoking expert opinion on mala and she thinks she's town.
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:41 am

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Who is mod-confirmed? Am I missing something?
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:46 am

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In post 4, Yukari Yakumo wrote:


Time is mod-confirmed with
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This is post #4.
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:46 am

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What's your point in , purple?
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:47 am

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And the shinki thing should be dropped. It's a flavor confirmation and nothing more.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:49 am

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Re: jazakururur

I see their trajectory as being fairly organic, and feirei seems to be primarily interested in getting forming reads on those players she feels she's best able to read, which is a day 1 town trait.
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:51 am

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In post 1355, Kagami wrote:And the shinki thing should be dropped. It's a flavor confirmation and nothing more.


Flavor isn't alignment indicative in this game, so there has to be some mechanics reason for why Time was mod confirmed. Innocent Child is the role that fits the bill.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:51 am

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In post 1354, Kagami wrote:What's your point in , purple?


The bad read in 1308 is mollie's read on me, if that's unclear. I agree that jingle is scummy.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:55 am

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In post 1357, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1355, Kagami wrote:And the shinki thing should be dropped. It's a flavor confirmation and nothing more.


Flavor isn't alignment indicative in this game, so there has to be some mechanics reason for why Time was mod confirmed. Innocent Child is the role that fits the bill.


No, the OP makes it very clear how alignments were organized, and it's also the same method that is very much in vogue with the super-mods these days. Alignment is very likely mostly independent of role and completely independent of flavor.

The confirmation is relevant in that it means Time has a role that is suitable to the Shinki flavor, and shouldn't be further investigated until appropriate.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:57 am

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Mollie lately my playstyle is to reach out to those who i been playing with a lot lately and have vast experience with. So yes i was joking because not reaching out to you was a scum tell to myself because i hadnt tried at that point. Again you misinterpted it and too it too much to heart.

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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:04 am

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In post 1354, Kagami wrote:What's your point in , purple?


misread1306 as the case ON him

not his

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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:05 am

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In post 1350, Alchemist21 wrote:Ank - making an effort despite not being able to keep up with the thread


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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:05 am

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In post 1349, purple hero wrote:
In post 1342, pirate mollie wrote:why is om scum?


mmmmmmmmmmmmm

i don't know, i 'm looking through the ISO and nothing's really popping as town to me

what are you seeing?


I am a sucker for aTe

the only thing is that om has always struck me as a confident player so I am unsure as to why she would suddenly get nervous.

to me it looked like she was spreading out her interactions and trying to weave cohesion but mebbe I am looking at it through a sucker for aTe lens.
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:07 am

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Didn't I say that I had no intention of my early game stuff to be a gambit?

I could have sworn I did
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:09 am

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hey alchemist!

what part of nc do you live in?

also why do you think i am scum?

notty you are still not doing our thing. you are still avoiding me and getting all hostile
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:12 am

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In post 1353, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 4, Yukari Yakumo wrote:


Time is mod-confirmed with
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This is post #4.

Awkward. Shouldn't have skimmed over that.
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:13 am

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Mollie

I legitimately have 0 idae what thread you're reading

you offered to triangulate or whatever the word was and after that I gave you a list of everyone I had down as town

and I don't even know what thing you'rre talking about
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:14 am

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In post 1365, pirate mollie wrote:hey alchemist!

what part of nc do you live in?

also why do you think i am scum?

notty you are still not doing our thing. you are still avoiding me and getting all hostile


Franklin County. I was surprised to see how many players on this site are in NC.

Also my scumread on you was mainly for the emotional responses you were having with Curiosity and people saying that was a scum trait for you. Since then others have said the opposite. So, is there anything you can personally provide for me to reverse my read on you?
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:16 am

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In post 1359, Kagami wrote:
In post 1357, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1355, Kagami wrote:And the shinki thing should be dropped. It's a flavor confirmation and nothing more.


Flavor isn't alignment indicative in this game, so there has to be some mechanics reason for why Time was mod confirmed. Innocent Child is the role that fits the bill.


No, the OP makes it very clear how alignments were organized, and it's also the same method that is very much in vogue with the super-mods these days. Alignment is very likely mostly independent of role and completely independent of flavor.

The confirmation is relevant in that it means Time has a role that is suitable to the Shinki flavor, and shouldn't be further investigated until appropriate.

I'm getting confused.
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:35 am

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In post 1368, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1365, pirate mollie wrote:hey alchemist!

what part of nc do you live in?

also why do you think i am scum?

notty you are still not doing our thing. you are still avoiding me and getting all hostile


Franklin County. I was surprised to see how many players on this site are in NC.

Also my scumread on you was mainly for the emotional responses you were having with Curiosity and people saying that was a scum trait for you. Since then others have said the opposite. So, is there anything you can personally provide for me to reverse my read on you?


the only person who said it was a scum trait was wis and when he realised he was not gonna get me lynched he somehow spun it into a townread.

why do you think emotional outbursts are more likely to come from scum rather than town?

I was reactive to mala's digs. those were not jokes they were digs.

I am in chillout mode tho at the request of guy and om.

I shouldn't have to do a thing to prove to you that I am town it is evident in my posts. I am scumhunting like I am on steroids.

eta: yeah I was also surprised at how many peeps lived in nc and then suddenly I found myself on a commune. you shld come visit.
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:53 am

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In post 1370, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1368, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1365, pirate mollie wrote:hey alchemist!

what part of nc do you live in?

also why do you think i am scum?

notty you are still not doing our thing. you are still avoiding me and getting all hostile


Franklin County. I was surprised to see how many players on this site are in NC.

Also my scumread on you was mainly for the emotional responses you were having with Curiosity and people saying that was a scum trait for you. Since then others have said the opposite. So, is there anything you can personally provide for me to reverse my read on you?


the only person who said it was a scum trait was wis and when he realised he was not gonna get me lynched he somehow spun it into a townread.

why do you think emotional outbursts are more likely to come from scum rather than town?

I was reactive to mala's digs. those were not jokes they were digs.

I am in chillout mode tho at the request of guy and om.

I shouldn't have to do a thing to prove to you that I am town it is evident in my posts. I am scumhunting like I am on steroids.

eta: yeah I was also surprised at how many peeps lived in nc and then suddenly I found myself on a commune. you shld come visit.


There were 2 people who called it a scumtrait for you. There are also 2 who aren't. It's not that I think emotional outbursts are innerently scum or town tells, it's just me putting faith in the metas of people who know you better.

My read on you is my weakest, and I'm willing to replace it with better ideas.

So let's talk about Kagami. What are the reasons you call them scum? I'm now leaning scum because I see Kagami as trying to use flavor to muddy up the pure mechanics of the game. It's as if he wants everyone to discredit the mod confirmation on Time so they can be held for a mislynch later.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:03 am

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Mollie are you town or scumreading curiosity

no in between

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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:13 am

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