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It's spelled

separate

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I'm not going to dignify the above post with a response.

Oh, and please sign your posts.

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Let me guess: kuribo?

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Hmm. That means I have to practice my reading skills~

I can't tell who is FakeGod, could you please tell us what are some identifying signs of FakeGod?

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This is an NOC game. There is no use for such an ability, most especially after xofelf has publicly outed this capability. I can only think of scum utility for it -> by making a townie say something very stupid and getting himself vulnerable to lynch. I see absolutely no town utility in such a role/effect.

This effect is either in the hands of scum, or is completely made-up.

Add on to the counterclaim by BBmolla, and I find xofelf more difficult to believe as the game passes.

FoS:xofelf

Consider this functionally a vote on you, if I weren't already voting your scum-buddy Abomination.

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I can think of many scum utilities for such a role. One example is to make a town person say "I am a cop and I have a guilty on someone else, please lynch them immediately",

potentially causing 2 town deaths.


Thing is, I don't even believe such a role exists at all.

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VOTE: xofelf

The split wagons are pretty stupid, and this is my support for a more focussed wagon.

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Why can't you just shoot Abom's face off?

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You're a public vig; what if you get roleblocked or night killed? I think that usually vig kills go last after scum faction kills.

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Right, if you get roleblocked, then I won't be. I beg your pardon.

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Once upon a time, in a land far away, there lived a handsome dragon. His supple black scales were iridescent with a soft pearly sheen, yet strong and masculine; his wings and underbelly glowed in orange red like hot, sinewy muscular embers. His intelligent eyes sparkled like precious emerald cabochons. They called him Konflag Grayshon.

He often fantasized about the females of his species, modestly camouflaged in ashy gray markings. Unlike the males that cavorted in the sun and fought boisterous battles with one another for territory, the females hid quietly in the depths of the forest and the heights of the mountains. When they were in estrus, their core temperature rose in rhythmical patterns and the males could locate them with their nightly infra-red vision and from the alluring trail of soot that emanated from them, and wafted around the island. He would picture them with their abdomens grossly distended by unnaturally large clutches of eggs waiting lazily yet hungrily, to be generously and repeatedly fertilized. Konflag Grayshon's senses were aroused tonight - it's difficult to tell if he was aroused in any other way, for dragons, being reptiles, have no external genitalia.

The gravid female that drew his attention from a distance was reaching heat that could melt granite; she had to be a large, very healthy specimen. Konflag needed to get there first. He could run, but even dragons are in a state of torpor at night. No, it was best to go slow, and go wise. He used shortcuts; he prepared elaborate traps to capture his competitors; he flamed mighty trees into fires so that he alone would pick up the direction of her scent. He did so well that he encountered no other dragon on his love trek. She was hiding at a high altitude, and the closer Konflag was getting to this exceptional specimen of dragonhood, he reckoned that she hid at the very top of the mountain. He thought he caught a glimpse of her, just over the summit. She was spewing literal tons of sulfuric gases, tossing red hot tephra, and gently oozing basalt. He felt his vesicle fill almost painfully at the thought of her beauty, the sexy turn of her nostrils, and her abundant eggs stretching the scales of her loins.

He was nearly there. He stepped forward, he could feel her, she would be his, and his alone. He had outwitted all those dumb males, and he would pass his superior genome with the hottest female that his species had ever produced.

He fell into the volcano.

Nice short story.

This is a compliment.

I have no comments on the game state from when I last posted.

Here is a short recap of my thoughts anyway:

Abomination needs to die; they effectively scumclaimed earlier, etc.

I need my message to get sent out to finally clear myself.

Shos should follow up on his promise to shoot either Abom or BulbaFenix.

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You should've killed the BulbaFenix slot. With Aronis replacing in, there's no hope for the slot ever being a pro town presence. None at all.

Oh well.

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Like, if there wasn't a reason to policy lynch that slot before, there is now.

VOTE: aronis

Off. Off you go.

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You should've killed the BulbaFenix slot. With Aronis replacing in, there's no hope for the slot ever being a pro town presence. None at all.

Oh well.

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So much for the secret hydra.

Did I slip? No I didn't.

This is public knowledge.

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Oh and ynb is town

Mod confirmed town, I got a message, just so we're clear

Confirming. I sent my message to molla. Finally worked.

It's over, BoP. Your life shall end.

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On a side note, the hydra replacements that I was complaining about have just died. All three 'Abominations'.

Is this a happy event?

Just a passing remark :p

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I'm really at a damn loss for who could be scum

Ridiculous considering that there are twenty people alive and more than four scum left or something. Are you dumb, uncharismatic, or also one of them?

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No, I'm insinuating that you're scum.

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I was about to reply to that then decided not to.

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Hm, now that you think about it, it kinda does make sense that so many personalities were squirreled away in this guy. You know what, I'm not even gonna try to make you feel bad about killing this dude. He's kind of just a big jerk.

Abomination was

Bankotsu, Band of Seven Mafia Even Night Jewel Cop/1-shot Jewel Thief

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Do you see me grinning now? Do you?


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Prohawk, you claim to be a jewel thief.

Do you have any powers that get boosted if you successfully steal a jewel?

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Prohawk, you claim to be a jewel thief.

Do you have any powers that get boosted if you successfully steal a jewel?

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Stop rolefishing and scumhunt. He hasn't claimed anything relevant (ex: a guilty), so why do you want to see what happens if he gets a shard?

Eat rope.

Get lost.

Don't interfere with my scumhunting.

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That's enough.

VOTE: Birds of Prey

Hang.

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though voting titus is tempting

which hydra is titus

hopefully not the friendly neighbour

The hydra 'Birds of Prey' is Titus.

The one I'm voting.

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10 pages in less than 24 hours? I thought this game was dead!

Im legitimately trying to help guys. My reads.

Majiffy is obvtown. Anyone off my wagon is obvtown.

Muffin is null.

Anyone on my wagon, except majiffy and muffin, is obvscum.

I'm lusting for some Aronis blood! Egg suggested that I should hammer?

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Oh, and I neglected to post this at the start of the day.

I'm a 3-shot Friendly Neighbor. I had wanted to announce this after I had a successful Neighbor confirmation, but I forgot to do so.

My Role PM explicitly says that my shots will be used up regardless if my action was successful or not. I would not be notified if my action was unsuccessful, anyway.

Although it would be pretty obvious the next day.

I've been using all three shots ASAP for the past 3 nights, so although I've only had one successful confirmation, which sucks, third time's the charm, I guess?

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Go ahead.

VOTE: Aronis

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Well, either of us should get the hammer, for being practically conf-town (minus a few stray tangent scenarios),

let someone else put a vote down first, then.

UNVOTE: Aronis

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I like how Birds of Scum are off the wagon.

I might be impatient, but I see no reason to prolong this day, when it has been about 5 days (I think) since day start. 'Waiting for everyone to check in' only leads to waffles and indecision.

@ns Why do you want revenge on Aronis...? Don't tell me you lost to Aroniscum... :p

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Squirrel girl, please vote Aronis so we can get rid of this pest.

He is carcinogenic.

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Not science should appear too so we can coordinate this without Aronis self hammering as scum or whatever

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He hammered me without a claim after the day had been open for 30 minutes in Alice.

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I'm here. I need to vote so someone can hammer?

We're playing monkey. Lynch the Aronis without Aronis self-hammering; myself or Notscience must get the hammer.

It's an exciting (not necessarily fun) game.

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Then I shall be modkilled.

All you need to do is to quote your role PM publically in thread...

And everyone will hate you more.

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Okay, I don't argue with scum, and I definitely won't entertain idiot scum.

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Remember that he can unvote and revote instantaneously in one post, so don't fall for the ruse.

We wait till he's gone.

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VOTE: aronis

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Was that successful?

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Who is PA? Is he important?

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Right, penguin alien, the replacement.

But then, the faster Aronis is expunged, the better. I'm sure he'll understand. 'He' refers to PA, by the way.

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Yeah, muffin is a smooth one. Considering the actions of his predecessor, an investigative on that slot is preferred.

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No, shos, you should absolutely listen to Aronis' reads! He is the best player on the site and his reads are always correct!

FYI, I will be targetting zmuffin tonight with DS. If she is scum, this will vanillaize her.

Zmuffin is a null read.

I recommend Old and Ugly, notsci, or shos.

Shos, I too recommend that you listen to Aronis, and target shos tonight with DS!

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I'd like to point out the fact that Majiffy, although annoying with his deathtunnels, is eerily accurate. If any of you have read the game 'Organic Chemistry', I was impressed with his results, but not his method.


It may be possible that shos is the SK.

Something that I noticed overnight.

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I asked you a question yesterday, Prohawk, but I don't think I saw your reply.

For convenience, I'll ask it again.

Do you have any powers that get boosted if you successfully steal a shard?

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If it means anything, I wax the first to vote Aronis. I just shifted my vote.

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Do you have any powers that get boosted if you successfully steal a shard?

I kinda-sorta ignored you because I think someone suggested it may be anti-town to relay the info.... Flavor dictates that I get my youth and beauty - gamewise, I was not told specifically, but I do know that pieces make up a fragment. My guess is, for me no. But if scum get them, yes. Why are you curious?

Because.

If 'stealing shards' allegedly has no benefit to yourself,

Then your role has no town utility.

There is no benefit to stealing a shard.

There is no reason for your role to exist as town.

Ergo, you are either a anti town role or plain scum.

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And there was no reason for you to steal notscience's shard, either. What, did you think he was scum?

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Okay, so Birds of Prey/Titus is the 3rd party lyncher.

Too bad your beloved target is a Friendly Neighbor~ woo~~

And confirmed herself to one of the towniest in the game~~

Think you can still complete your objective?


Dear other members of the town,

remember in Day 1 when Titus "suggested that I target her or "my scumreads"? Easy for her to complete her plan; they're

way

much easier to argue scum than BBmolla-obvtown scum.

If Y and B picks me, I am in the awkward position of scumreading her while stating that my lack of receipt of the FN is not a scumclaim on their part and we get no knowledge on Y and B's alignment from the failure.

With geists, we have a roleblocker or Y and B is scum. If it's the former, I would expect many investigative roles.

And she even wants me to pick her!

No Y and B did not. That would make this too easy.

Y and B's neighbor message to Always failed. So either scum have a roleblocker and picked them or Y and B is scum. Those are the options. If Y and B HAD picked me, then it would have been a meaningless night action because I can't receive their message. Hence why I had to crumb.

I claimed because a) there's a wagon on me and b) I couldn't explain the cop thing without claiming

Pest.

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I have, she hasn't.

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Well, I am unlynchable, but she is basically anti-town. I'd say ignore her, but vig before lylo.

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Now that I think about it, also yes.

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There's probably not a lyncher. This conversation is silly.

What makes you so sure? Can you explain Titus, who is capable of posting volumes of pages (400 posts in Day 1 of the game X-Men: Age of Apocalypse) as town, and self-proclaimed queen of logic and scumhunting, becoming a zombie in this game?

Zombie as in, banging her head against the wall over and over again. Everyone has moved on, but Birds of Prey not only has one of the worst ISOs in the current game, but also *throwing dirt* onto a confirmed townie?

How is this not evidence of a 3rd party lyncher?

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Perhaps the target was randomized.

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Her target was force-changed by a scum faction.

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She had multiple targets; one of which is me; she attempted to push all simultaneously, focusing on my slot because it appeared to be easier Day 1.

Now, all her targets are dead, I'm the only option she has. The Friendly Neighbor.

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BoP has actually

pretended to do

something in the game,

Fixed that for you.

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Add on to that, what do you think about Birds of Prey, mhork?

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Quit trying to lynch people who are obviously not group scum.

Quit trying to lynch people who are conf town.





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Lord Mhork - probably town
shos - Still think he's scum for play, but I'm not confident in lynching another claimed PR after fucking up with xofelf. If he's town he's super dumb, which I don't think shos is that dumb.
ProHawk - probably town due to claim
Oversoul - prob scum
Squirrel Girl - town
beastcharizard - prob scum
notscience - prob town
Birds of Prey - scum
ActionDan - idk
Kagami - probably town
Majiffy - town
Young and Beautiful - town
neil1113 - idk
The Goat - town
penguin_alien - in this game?
Egg - maybe town
zMuffinMan - idk

wow...anyone cleared by my vcais scum but for Mhork...yup BB is scum

Nobody cares for your bullshit of a 'vca'

Reality check.

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And you really need to eat rope; you're just not appearing as 'obvscum' to others so your life is being prolonged. You will eat rope sooner or later.

VOTE: Birds of Prey


Town Titus is pretty evident and obvious. Scum Titus... Is in this game

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And you're Done For



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I hope you don't win this game as scum with VCA then!

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Now who do I shoot tonight?

Shoot either Birds of Prey or Oversoul. Highest odds of flipping Bo7.

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Now who do I shoot tonight?

Kagami or BBMolla

All right, you're being as stupid as Aronis now. And you're Titus. That is certainly a cause for concern.

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I mean, Aronis is retarded, but for Titus to stoop down to his level...

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...Then there must be some scum telepathy going on!

Sorry if the above was offensive to Aronis.

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She's a doublevoter, of course she's town!

We are not sure

you're

town, though, so you'd better work on that.

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She's a doublevoter, of course she's town!

We are not sure

you're

town, though, so you'd better work on that.

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I am most definitely town. That should be readily apparent to everyone by now.

Reality doesn't match expectations, unfortunately.

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I huess I'm just a shrug and a walkaway though, to see where it goes.
But I am lost.

Are we sure this is town?

Now they are brazenly threatening you Oversoul. The message from Y n B is clear, mislynch PV and Titus or die.

'mislynch PV and Titus or die'

Oh dearie, you sure are a self-righteous one!

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Let's lynch both our town joats

what could go wrong

You are not toen.

Because saying that people aren't town magically makes them not town ~

Like you've been doing the whole game.

How about this,

you

aren't town.




I have something to say, will do it when I get back to my computer.

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Let's lynch both our town joats

what could go wrong

You are not toen.

Because saying that people aren't town magically makes them not town ~

Like you've been doing the whole game.

How about this,

you

aren't town.




I have something to say, will do it when I get back to my computer.

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And I will deliver.

Normally, if any other person was holding the Birds of Prey slot, I'd say:

"I'm conftown, you're not, so shut your mouth and sit your bottom down or we will paddle it and rope you up."

However, this is Titus I'm talking to, so I am going to write something more esoteric, with respect to Titus.

Oh, how I wish ika was in this game... she would have tore you to shreds... never mind, I'll take up that job.

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I'd like to remind everybody about Titus scum meta.

For example, in Gundam Seed, Titus as scum threw smoke around the town and got multiple Town PRs lynched... her lynch was way overdue until she botched her claim. Her scumplay easily manipulated the town into a state of confusion due to her ridiculous and counter-intuitive play. This is easily a hallmark of her scumgame and is evident in the play in this game. Unfortunately for you, there is me to counter your demonic scumplay - (hopefully) nobody is buying the bullshit you are spewing right now.

Another example is in Marvel Avengers Alliance Mafia where Titus was caught scum by cop. Titus claimed to be a last member of the other scumteam, forcing the town into a state of confusion again and wasted a full day phase of discussion on whether to "leash or lynch" her (Hint: When it comes to Tituscum, always rope her ASAP), and almost tricking the true last member of the other scumteam into scumclaiming.

A counter-example is her town play in the recent X-Men: Age of Apocalypse Mafia. Titus, as town, made a whopping total of 400 posts Day 1. Titustown is transparent, helpful and thoughtful. Comparing to the Titus in this game... it's a hydra, and just a little above that same record IN DAY 5. Sorry, but Tituscum here does not meet the standards of Titustown there.

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Another point of contention is that Titus maxim: "When I'm town, and my reads are right, I always die early."

Well then, good madam, if your reads are so fantastically accurate (they aren't, by the way)... and you're town (or so you claim), why are you still alive?

Here's another one,

"I only survive till endgame as town if my reads are dead wrong".

It's Day 5. You've been pushing a conf-town for all eternity. What, is this your new method of survivalism; the only way you can survive till end-game is to be dead wrong, so you're being dead wrong on purpose? Good grief!

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And here I am to slowly debunk, piece by piece, for children, why Titus's play in this game is horrendous, and indicative of scum meta.

Her argument against myself and BBmolla is this:

"BBmolla must be scum, because YnB is scum".

"YnB is scum, because BBmolla is scum".

Just that. She has had no reason to scumread BBmolla whatsoever and has made no indication of doing so, prior to BBmolla confirming my Friendly Neighbor message. She scumreads BBmolla BECAUSE he confirmed my message. That's the essence of it.

For those of you that argue that I am misrepresenting her case; maybe I am, I admit it. I forget the details and semantics of why she scumreads BBmolla, but my point is this: If any other person had hypothetically received my Friendly Neighbor message, you can apply the (very poor) reasoning provided by Titus, onto said person as well.

And I daresay that none of you can dispute the above point. Titus is making up bullshit, frankly speaking, and I don't want bullshit arguments covering on more bullshit.
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it is super risky, because if the SK kills YnB(either scum or conftown - so good shot) and she flips scum, then molla is confscum too.

This is a very legitimate point brought up by shos, to kindly explain why BoP's bullshit reasoning, is bullshit.

And then BoP replies with this:

If Molla "townreads" the SK, then this risk is minimal.

So, dear Titus, queen of moonlogic, how exactly will Molla, "Allegedly Bo7 scum with me", know who the SK is, and therefore able to townread him? Is Molla psychic? Did Cephrir tell the scumteam who the SK is? Or perhaps Molla used his cop and found the SK? Maybe he was lying about his "idling" actions after all! Such joy!

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All these points seek to prove that Birds of Prey, aka Titus, is part of the scumteam, or quite possibly an Ascetic Serial Killer. Her reasoning is terrible, she uses circular logic to push obviously-unviable-mislynch targets, and frankly her play is so low that it is comparable to Aroniscum.

No, shos, you should absolutely listen to Aronis' reads! He is the best player on the site and his reads are always correct!

FYI, I will be targetting zmuffin tonight with DS. If she is scum, this will vanillaize her.

Zmuffin is a null read.

I recommend Old and Ugly, notsci, or shos.

Shos, I too recommend that you listen to Aronis, and target shos tonight with DS!

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It is no coincidence that the scum in this game have the plan: GO FULL STUPID. They are already down three men and more will fall; we still have 20 players remaining; 16 of which are Town. (20 - 3 - 1 = 16)

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@BBMolla, towniest slots in the game? Haha. You AD and Kagami haven't done shit for ages.

Literally the only people voting her "must be scum"

FULL ON STUPID.

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I know about the accident dearie and I love you :*

But you need to understand that if you are scum you cannot be allowed to live... Both you and I are definitely aware of what you are capable of as scum. I am the only one that can stop you.

In so far, the accident happened at day 3 or 4. That means that there were 2 day phases for you to post like town you did in X Men... You didn't.

You have given us no reason for us to believe that you are town. Your scum MO is also 'I am town and I am transparent'. You say the same thing regardless of your alignment; it is up to us to determine if you are transparent or not through your actions. You appear not.

The points you apply onto molla can be applied to any other player. You are working on 'molla is scum because YnB is scum' that's confirmation bias at best and scum manipulation at worst.

I have no idea about your wagon suddenly appearing after you voting Kagami. Correlation does not imply causation. Besides, I will make sure you will get lynched before it ever gets to Lylo. Maybe town finally realised how much smoke you are throwing into people's eyes. You are just finding reasons to scum read people on your wagon just like a caught scum would do.

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Pedit: nice one, thanks shos


Oh by the way, I'm not the one who's desperate attempting to throw mud onto the conf town. It's like trying to make a waterfall dirty by throwing mud into it... It won't work... I am forever clean.

You forgot to address the point about our alleged gambit being screwed over by the SK. If I die, molla will allegedly be implicated as conf scum. I am a number 1 SK target as confirmed town or guaranteed double scum catch.

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Oh, and the SK is proven, by the way. Don't you dare argue that there isn't; it's like trying to argue that birds can't fly.

Considering your track record in this whole game as an overall, that's entirely possible coming out of your mouth, and I have to say that it's going way off the wrong way.

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I don't really have a strongest scum read

just a bunch of people I think are town and some i don't

I think Neil could very well be scum. I think it's possible majiffy/noddy contains one scum. I think oversoul and maybe AD could be scum. That's basically where I'm at atm

oh and beast I guess since I don't remember him at all

I haven't been reading

Has anyone commented on how {shit/amazing} my reads are?

Kill Titus you know you want to

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Aren't those fingers itching

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Titus is scum you really should vote her.

Also, it would satisfy that desire that you crave for. :*

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BoP is putting in a heck ton of effort if they are scum, which I am not convinced of.

BBM's response to the pressure is pretty bad.

This is false beyond false. I can name you ten players that put in a heck ton of effort as scum. I can name you tenfold more town that don't put in effort as town.

I don't think BBM made any response at all. Then again, there isn't any 'pressure' to begin with; I didn't bother reading BoP's 'wall of win' read list at all.

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And I want my student debt paid off, the town to stop voting each other, and my back to heal so I can do more than phone post

We don't get what we want.

Again, you are treating your "scumread" AD differently than SG or BC. You put in bold you want their claims but your scumread ooops...better ask him.

Occam's Razor my friend

This exactly applies to yourself dearie :*

Occam's razor directly concludes that you are scum lying through your teeth through and through~


I have never seen you spout so many fallacies and bad arguments, ever!

This is similar to your play in [REDACTED] mafia which you have already flipped scum, dearie~

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Fucking exactly. You said you couldn't believe I townread LM. By that measure you scumread him insanely strongly. Yet your vig pool is me OS and Majiffy. If you objected so strongly to my townread, why wasn't LM in your vig pool? You picked me OS and Jiffy. You put LM in your pool. Then you say he's town miller.

Your right to life shall be revoked. At this point I am done trying to stop town from voting itself when it should be readily apparent who scum are. I don't care if I am sheeping a scum suspect. You die.

VOTE: shos

Please continue to vote and suspect everyone who is voting you at the moment. It really helps the rest of the town believe whatever you're saying.


Funny thing is, at this point, you aren't even bothering to hide your craziness. There's no way you're getting to Lylo, so you're going crazier than DGB and pushing obviously wrong reads and unviable targets to create chaos.

Fie to all your claims of 'powerful in the late game'! You never get to late game as town, and if you do, your reads have been garbage the whole game anyway. Harry Potter was an exception; you replaced in.

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On a side note,

Shos and Titus alive can help us achieve the dream of beating FE:A mafia! :*

Can we?

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Then listen to the expert on scum Titus who has experienced many of her scum games!

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Yeah I think I'm leaning BoP town after all this shit. They're putting in more effort than most the base.

@Oversoul: I've been falling into a depressive slump and other things are just more interesting to me right now than a won game :/
Also I don't see how you can think Ninja + Watcher makes sense...

Please read the recently completed game 'Marvel Avengers Alliance'. Just the last fee pages. I promise. You will change your mind.

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*few

Yes Titus, I'm phone posting too, don't complain.

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I don't read games I'm not in, YB.

Molla, they put in effort in a town way. They are putting more effort than they would need to to stay alive, and they're drawing a lot of attention to themselves in the process trying to solve the game. None of this feels scum motivated at all.

I disagree. I daresay argue that they are putting in all this effort IN ORDER TO say alive.

If they were a lurk sack like Abomination or BulbaFenix... Already dead.

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And shos too!

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Your motivation and objective is to throw smoke and cause chaos by throwing as much suspicion as possible in the universal town pool. You have had been marked for death since Day 1, thanks to yours truly. Survival isn't your goal here. Your goal is to support the remaining few men of your scumteam so that they can carry to a victory.


You rarely ever get mislynched, especially not at 'late-game' as you so claim. Stop.

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We are lynching all the not town. We are lynching BBMolla, YnB, shos, and Kagami. If one happens to be wrong or there are seven scum, we can hit Majiffy. Unity is the first step.

So I ask you beast? Are you in to take down the scum and to realize that scum tend to be predictable unless they think outside the norm.

It's much easier to give a variety of choices.

Who is 'we'? Your scumteam? You certainly have no town power, please stop being delusional and thinking you have an inkling of town authority.

I've been pretty passive with regard to you this game, but if your attempts to manipulate and control the town continue, I'm going to put my foot down and shut you down.

Remember, I'm the conftown. Everyone listens to me.

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For starters, I don't make walls.

Secondly, I have not yet played the 'I'm conf town and I am God' card. I did that to Aronis, and you will be next if you keep up your undesirable behavior. The only reason that I have been lenient on you is because you are Titus. That said, if you were a random, I would have already shut you down. Don't go there.

I am afraid of uncertainty, not free will. Don't misinterpret me. Your reads have been contrary to mine for the whole of the game. Your play has been contrary to what I gather to be your town meta for the whole of the game.

I am not shutting you down for 'reaching out'. I am shutting you down for creating town chaos, what your scum mode is best at, your modus operandi.

If you are town, you didn't have to 'reach out' so artificially. People would automatically believe you. The fact that this isn't the case... Just shows that it isn't the case.

I have no reason to believe that you are town apart from your denial 'I am not scum'. We only have your word for it, but your actions, motivations and objectives only give us doubt to show that you are very probably playing an anti town role.

I have no reason to believe anything that comes out from you until you are confirmed town... Then I may consider working with you. Unfortunately, you are an 'ascetic', which I have no reason to believe as truth as well, but that essentially means that you cannot be cleared while you are alive.

There is only one way to glorify your words. Make a final stand, then self hammer. Your commitment would be a pinnacle of town guidance. Otherwise, don't even think of breaking my reign... everybody can see your bigoted motivations.

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We're all listening to YB now? 0.o
Your scum reads are all kinda really townie YB...

My scum reads are over soul and Birds of Prey. If you think they are townie... And you are town... Let's say this will be the last game that I play with you.

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No offense, but...

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"For starters i don't make walls" followed by a wall is the mafia equivalent of "I'm not racist, but..." I guess

Really though, once I'm irritated enough with Titus to stop bothering with her ridiculous posts, I am just going to post a relevant image/gif to ridicule any objectionable post that I see from her.

No need to waste my time with walls.

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Lol. You pretty much just did play the I am conftown card. You are not though.

YnB for knowing my meta, you should know that I am rarely if ever sheeped.

I don't see how pushing scum is bigoted.

You are saying policy lynch me because I cannot be cleared. Sweetie, the rational for lynching me applies to everyone but you. The only way you can be 100% cleared is to mislynch bb. Neither of you are town, so no confirmation.

You keep threatening me with big guns.

You should know my meta well enough that I rarely self hammer. I have done it once.

Throwig hysterical words like bigot is insane and you know it.

And you 'know' that they are scum because...?

Magic? You have a cheat sheet of the scum? Do share, because Occam's razor states that you are scum pushing for mislynches.


Don't misrepresent me dearie, I never said to policy lynch you because you cannot be cleared. I said 'lynch you because you are scum'.

I simply imply that since you cannot be cleared, if you want your words to be believed remotely like the Bible, you have to die~~

'Insane'... Ha ha ha!

You used that word to shos too when you lost the argument...

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We're all listening to YB now? 0.o
Your scum reads are all kinda really townie YB...

My scum reads are over soul and Birds of Prey. If you think they are townie... And you are town... Let's say this will be the last game that I play with you.

Explain why Rhaego noob scum chainsawed for the 6 headed hydra by voting Katsukiand how that could be scum.

Who is Rhaego? Is he even in the game?

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I'll re-quote your loss in the shos argument later, since you have such a selective memory... It will make you look like a fool though.

You aren't push ing 'mislynches' in so much as to cause chaos and disruption. Your lynch pool is narrowing and your scumteam is dropping like flies, seeing a dire situation, you took it upon yourself to do why you do best: create massive town confusion to allow the last few members to survive.

There is no possible way to 'prove' people town or scum. Are you a scumhunting goddess? A cop, maybe? Perhaps an IC confirmed town with a 'Best Town Performance' banner? What? None of them? Why, anybody who listens to whatever you are saying must be so ashamed!

Not to mention the obvious issue of you being scum lying through your teeth.

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However, you do have a valid point in Lemniscate. I noticed that my slot was not on the Lemni wagon at the end of day 1, and accept full responsibility for that. I do have mitigation in that I was away during that period, and Y was handling the event during that time. I will not shirk responsibility though, it falls on my slot.


But! If I don't remember who Rhaego is, then your point isn't very relevant, Titus. It's outdated and probably inconsequential evidence. What are you trying to argue with that point?

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Do you work for AdPlus now? Wall of win...

I didn't bother reading that the first time round and I won't now. It's all manufactured reads to suit your objectives.

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However, you do have a valid point in Lemniscate. I noticed that my slot was not on the Lemni wagon at the end of day 1, and accept full responsibility for that. I do have mitigation in that I was away during that period, and Y was handling the event during that time. I will not shirk responsibility though, it falls on my slot.


But! If I don't remember who Rhaego is, then your point isn't very relevant, Titus. It's outdated and probably inconsequential evidence. What are you trying to argue with that point?

Day 1 is the most important day in VCA. Scum are least likely to bus.

Also, scum don't chainsaw scum for scum is also accurate. I have never seen it.

They have 6 scum. They certainly have the privilege of bussing. Why are you making baseless assumptions?

In my favor, I advocated a (policy) lynch against Abomination since the start of the game, and vote parked on him until you, number 1 suspect, came along. You are still unflipped, so whether I still made a right choice Day 1 or not is open to the floor.

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My vocabulary is simply superior to yours. I will be your arch nemesis, and you will hang, as I promised ever since game start.

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One more thing, for a conftown, you are obsessed with proving your innocence.

Oh no dearie, it's not that, don't misintepret me!

I'm obsessed with seeing you, Titus, hang on the noose.

Vindicate the town of your malevolent intentions; rid the town of a mastermind scum!

The "proving of my innocence" is just an icing on the cake.

You know, like a bounty, a reward, a cash prize... that I don't actually need.

Becaue I'm a billionaire.

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How Titus loses an argument: "You're insane!"

Great! But what if I'm townreading both players?

If you cannot follow me, discuss it rationally with me.
If you cannot follow me, vote another player who isn't town.

A few pages later...

[wall of text]

[BoP's wall of text]

[rebuttal to BoP]

what happened to 3, 5, 6? gone to ashes? forfeited.?

@shos,

I don't argue with inane andinsane ramblings.

Those points are desperate reaches beyond most of your post. For instance, claiming someone does not get towncred for voting scum.

what's insane in my post? you can't respond?

[snip]

Throwig hysterical words like bigot is

insane

and you know it.

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No~ If she was killed by vig shot, she's going to cry that "scum always shoot me when I'm right again! "

oh and "shos is scum "

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That's if you're right and "titus is not scum".

Which many don't agree upon.

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Can you stand that? Titus gloating "I'm right so I died, I'm right so I died"

"scum shot me! I'm super goddess!"

"Now you must chain lynch BBmolla, shos, YnB, Kagami, ActionDan, Majiffy, Cephrir"

"Lynch everyone I say cause I died by nightkill!!!"

Will

YOU

stand for that?

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I just want her blood on the noose *-*

Please help us achieve this c:

also, Titus is scum.

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/serious attempt to appeal to muffin here

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YB, why do you tunnel so insanely hard? It's like you have two modes: do nothing and tunnel like a motherfucker.

Also we're not here to judge Titus' play. The important thing is that her town motivation is evident through her posts, and I don't think she should be lynched for it.

I taught Majiffy He still has lots to learn~

Her posts have no town motivation, it is all scum motivation. I don't think you can distinguish between scum and town Titus motivation, and I guess this is the first game that you are playing with her. I'd make a bet that you have never played a game along with scum Titus before.


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Dearie, the only panicked scum here is you! Look at the words you have used to describe your attackers or anybody who has made a case against you "Desperate scum", "Panicked scum" -> They all apply to none other than yourself.

Please continue to call my rebuttals to you "insane", "buzzwords", and "spam". It is indication that you have nothing logical or sensible left to say, rebut, or counter my argument. I do watch Korean dramas. I know. I can link you one of the scenes on youtube if you want, it's quite funny!

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That said, I'm tired of treating Birds of Prey as my equal. I've been very nice for a long time. From now onwards, I'm going to stomp them.

Okay, I don't argue with scum, and I definitely won't entertain idiot scum.

- b -

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More buzzwords and spam.

Buzzwords and spam!

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YnB, if you plan on "stomping" me and being a bully, stop talking and do it. Be the bully you threaten.

However you should actually answer my question. Do you know the difference between valid arguments and sound arguments?

Yes, I do.

All (most) the arguments that you have posted are sound, but also invalid.

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@YnB - how do you feel about the BBMolla wagon based on your 3-shot clarification? I don't think I've noticed you addressing that.

You're right, I didn't actually address that.

Flashwagon is funny, though. They saw you, a very obvious town, vote for another obvious, but has had shit thrown on him by BoP, town.

Even funnier are the people who hopped on. BoP and Lord Mhork. Seriously? Mhork appears to be town by claim, but his hard defense of BoP bothers me. I guess he can be sorted out later in the game; vigged if necessary, considering his "One-Shot-Watch" had been already used up, effectively a Vanilla Miller Townie (or so he claims).

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Really though, BoP's wagon hop perfectly fits the "Desperate scum" archetype that she has suggested for us.

Bo7 have 3 scum remaining (At least). 10 is required to lynched. They have just a little over a quarter of the votes needed to push mislynches through. Compare this to the start of the game: 6 scum to park on a 15-man wagon. That's half.

Now take into account that the Bo7 scum are currently very vulnerable and open to fire... it will be very very difficult for them to push mislynches through as time passes; as they cannot form a "scumblock" to create mislynch wagons, otherwise they are open to giant association tell weaknesses, so on and so forth.

Yeah, you baited them with that little experiment of yours. Funny.

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*ignores BoP completely*

@Shos - I will (courteously) refuse to bother to full claim until you tell me what possible gain there is in it for town. I think we have enough people claiming odd demon/human/undead divining info that it would actually please me to see one of them try to clarify me for themselves, considering so many are open claimed at this stage. I'm really not sure how any of that matters much anyway.

firstly, because you've already claimed your role, and seeing what you say for your race and flavor can help me determine if this is a fakeclaim or not.
secondly, I want the claim list full and ready.
thirdly, I cannot see how it can harm town.

I also think a DV in such a game can definitely be scum if the scum are six players and not seven. if you noticed, you're in the viglist, so your claim will help me decide whether or not to shoot you.

Bad idea. Squirrel girl is likely town, we sort her out late game. Get rid of the noise-maker first.

Can Squirrel Girl doublevote a same target, for example BoP? If that is the case, she should be town. If she is only limited to one vote per target, then that is saddening.

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Whoops!

Well, if you want to lecture me about argument validity and theory, do it out of game. If you're doing it here, you have scum agenda. Thanks~

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Okay, I don't argue with scum, and I definitely won't entertain idiot scum.

- b -

Whoops!

Well, if you want to lecture me about argument validity and theory, do it out of game. If you're doing it here, you have scum agenda. Thanks~

Saw the scum motivation a mile away ~

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I'll consider it.

meanwhile, I confirmed it, and for four nights, not a single undead or demon targetted me. that's just.. wierd.
if that means I wasn't roleblocked - or at least not by a nonhuman - then where was the RB? why didn't he target YnB? possibly X-shot?

sigh

it's almost 3:30 am, I better go to bed. I hate not sleeping on workweeks.

Human roleblocker? Human commuter? Two people simultaneously claimed that they attempted actions on you last night but failed -> not a coincidence. Some scum shenanigans must have happened. It's more likely you were a target of an action rather than them being separately roleblocked and coincidentally targeting you on the same night.

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k I want OS and BoP both dead by tomorrow
gnight

Birds first. They chirp too much. Pun intended.

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*she

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Don't talk to Birds of Prey, shos! She'll call you insane!

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As much as most of the above of Titus's posts were false / 'INVALID AND UNSOUND',

I too invite you to check the game out. And check that Titus's play here is not like her town play there either.

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Egg,

What is your read on Prohawk, Beast, Squirrel Girl and Majiffy?

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As much as most of the above of Titus's posts were false / 'INVALID AND UNSOUND',

I too invite you to check the game out. And check that Titus's play here is not like her town play there either.

I'd like to clarify this: Similar to that game, I have caught scum on Day One thanks to my godlike-scum hunting skills, without the use of any investigative or additional information. However, I have had trouble getting said scum in this game lynched in this game immediately the next day, as Y was no longer here with her complementary godlike-wagon pushing skills.

I am struggling to reach her levels of prowess, but Birds of Prey will hang. That is a promise that I have made in Day 1 and I intend to keep it.

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She doesn't care who gets lynched as long as she mislynches someone before she dies. You should know better than that, you've played with Titus countless of times; one of the more experienced ones in the game.

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She doesn't care who gets lynched as long as she mislynches someone before she dies. You should know better than that, you've played with Titus countless of times; one of the more experienced ones in the game.

Again that is obvious bullshit to anyone reading this thread. My scumteam cannot have 8 people. I have objected to votes on Oversoul, ProHawk and Lord Mhork. I am objecting to any vite on my conftown list.

Lie more.

Look in the mirror, dearie. Who has more votes?

I am superior, and you are the one with the obvious bullshit polluting the thread. Please continue to say that you are 'obvtown' as the leading wagon of the day.


Shos, put your vote back on BoP. You took your vote off earlier.

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but you ARE desparate scum. have you noticed that it's everyone against you in this discussion?

Lol. Nope. ActionDan is coming around. That is why he said the SK would kill one.

Did you even miss my quotes that had almost everyone but the voteparkers and you thinking I am town?

Not everyone is against me. If you notice the BBMolla wagon has 4 votes. I have four votes.

No one is saying BBMolla looks town.

Scum are again pulling the xmen trick but this time town is wise.

Desperate scum use 'Lol' at the start of their posts whenever they feel panicky.

It's how you are nervous when talking to the man/woman/boy/girl of your dreams for the first time. You cannot control your stuttering.

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Titus plan is to flood the game with her lies and bullshit until the weak cannot tell the difference

It's like paper. You can rip one, two, ten apart easily, but Titus is churning them out like a factory. Only the strong can slice these stacks paper thin lies into pieces... the weak and the daft will find that they are unable to rip apart 80 sheets at once, even if they are just paper-thin lies.

It is indeed an impressive strategy, from an observers point of view. I do enjoy playing with Titus.

But my job is to eliminate her. The scum will be lynched.

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You will die before anybody sheeps your so called 'Wall of Win'. Even if you have a magic wand that makes everything in that pile of bullocks true and all our role PMs spontaneously flip alignment to the opposite.

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I am spamming. I am so sorry. Titus is right. She said I was spamming. I will cut down on the spam.

More buzzwords and spam.

Buzzwords and spam!

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cut down the spam

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I'm pretty sure she's sheeping Majiffy instead!

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I'm just going to start ignoring this game exists, I think.

As much as I hold your read on shos in high regard, after that precise spot-on display that you had in Organic Chemistry,

I implore you to help us, for the sanity of the town, and yourself, to participate in the BoP wagon and eventual lynch. Just for today.

Pretty please? :*

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Thank you! *huggles Majiffy* ^_^

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Blame Titus for spewing bullshit all over the thread.


Your scum modus operandi is to lurk like you aren't even in the game, Peregrine. I can forgive you on account of you being in a hydra and disinterested, but let me just keep you up to date that your slot is still town's number 1 enemy.

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Let me just put this out here that if Birds of Prey flips town, I will self vote for the entirety of tomorrow's day phase, provided that I am not shot at night.

Of course, I will be the only one of my wagon, so it's only a vanity wagon, but that should be enough to satisfy you.

No more 'what will you do when I flip town'. Because you won't.

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I'm not going to write walls for your slot anymore. I'll give key points.

1) Titus is fun to mock. I selectively bait and ridicule posts that are objectively objectionable. Which are pretty easy to find.

2) not looking the Lemin wagon. I was not involved in the game at that time. It's funny how your slot keeps pushing towns eyes there though, as though your scumteam pulled a gambit bus is not giving you guys the towncrrd that you originally expected or wanted. Aronis was easy, I crushed him like a little fly. I like Titus, so I refrained from trampling on her for the past few days, but no longer. I have already begun destroying her... Too bad you weren't around for that.

3) scumreads ate your slot and Oversoul. Everyone else is town tentatively; I am focused on lynching one scum per day. I'm not greedy.

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I'm just going to start ignoring this game exists, I think.

As much as I hold your read on shos in high regard, after that precise spot-on display that you had in Organic Chemistry,

I implore you to help us, for the sanity of the town, and yourself, to participate in the BoP wagon and eventual lynch. Just for today.

Pretty please? :*

Lol. Spot on in Organic Chemistry..he tried to lynch town Titus.

Of course that is spot on for scum.

Titus was shot by scum very early. Why are you outright lying about facts? That's a deep down low point, coming from you. I thought you were only lying about gray areas, but this is too shameless.

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Let me just put this out here that if Birds of Prey flips town, I will self vote for the entirety of tomorrow's day phase, provided that I am not shot at night.

Of course, I will be the only one of my wagon, so it's only a vanity wagon, but that should be enough to satisfy you.

No more 'what will you do when I flip town'. Because you won't.

Actually, I'm saying, "Why won't you do something now?"


And mod PM = you being wrong, so there is that.


~P

I'm doing something. Voting you.

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Page 300? Hooray! How many more till we reach Tales of You?

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On topic:

6-4. You are desperate scum.

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dude(s), your post count rose from like 100 to 600 in a week. you can't blame us

It's 274 to 600! Not 100! You don't want to be called insane again!

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You're a great liar!

There's probably not a lyncher. This conversation is silly.

What makes you so sure? Can you explain Titus, who is capable of posting volumes of pages (400 posts in Day 1 of the game X-Men: Age of Apocalypse) as town, and self-proclaimed queen of logic and scumhunting, becoming a zombie in this game?

Zombie as in, banging her head against the wall over and over again. Everyone has moved on, but Birds of Prey not only has one of the worst ISOs in the current game, but also *throwing dirt* onto a confirmed townie?

How is this not evidence of a 3rd party lyncher?

- b -

Let's lynch both our town joats

what could go wrong

You are not toen.

Because saying that people aren't town magically makes them not town ~

Like you've been doing the whole game.

How about this,

you

aren't town.




I have something to say, will do it when I get back to my computer.

- b -

And I will deliver.

Normally, if any other person was holding the Birds of Prey slot, I'd say:

"I'm conftown, you're not, so shut your mouth and sit your bottom down or we will paddle it and rope you up."

However, this is Titus I'm talking to, so I am going to write something more esoteric, with respect to Titus.

Oh, how I wish ika was in this game... she would have tore you to shreds... never mind, I'll take up that job.

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I'd like to remind everybody about Titus scum meta.

For example, in Gundam Seed, Titus as scum threw smoke around the town and got multiple Town PRs lynched... her lynch was way overdue until she botched her claim. Her scumplay easily manipulated the town into a state of confusion due to her ridiculous and counter-intuitive play. This is easily a hallmark of her scumgame and is evident in the play in this game. Unfortunately for you, there is me to counter your demonic scumplay - (hopefully) nobody is buying the bullshit you are spewing right now.

Another example is in Marvel Avengers Alliance Mafia where Titus was caught scum by cop. Titus claimed to be a last member of the other scumteam, forcing the town into a state of confusion again and wasted a full day phase of discussion on whether to "leash or lynch" her (Hint: When it comes to Tituscum, always rope her ASAP), and almost tricking the true last member of the other scumteam into scumclaiming.

A counter-example is her town play in the recent X-Men: Age of Apocalypse Mafia. Titus, as town, made a whopping total of 400 posts Day 1. Titustown is transparent, helpful and thoughtful. Comparing to the Titus in this game... it's a hydra, and just a little above that same record IN DAY 5. Sorry, but Tituscum here does not meet the standards of Titustown there.

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Another point of contention is that Titus maxim: "When I'm town, and my reads are right, I always die early."

Well then, good madam, if your reads are so fantastically accurate (they aren't, by the way)... and you're town (or so you claim), why are you still alive?

Here's another one,

"I only survive till endgame as town if my reads are dead wrong".

It's Day 5. You've been pushing a conf-town for all eternity. What, is this your new method of survivalism; the only way you can survive till end-game is to be dead wrong, so you're being dead wrong on purpose? Good grief!

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And here I am to slowly debunk, piece by piece, for children, why Titus's play in this game is horrendous, and indicative of scum meta.

Her argument against myself and BBmolla is this:

"BBmolla must be scum, because YnB is scum".

"YnB is scum, because BBmolla is scum".

Just that. She has had no reason to scumread BBmolla whatsoever and has made no indication of doing so, prior to BBmolla confirming my Friendly Neighbor message. She scumreads BBmolla BECAUSE he confirmed my message. That's the essence of it.

For those of you that argue that I am misrepresenting her case; maybe I am, I admit it. I forget the details and semantics of why she scumreads BBmolla, but my point is this: If any other person had hypothetically received my Friendly Neighbor message, you can apply the (very poor) reasoning provided by Titus, onto said person as well.

And I daresay that none of you can dispute the above point. Titus is making up bullshit, frankly speaking, and I don't want bullshit arguments covering on more bullshit.
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it is super risky, because if the SK kills YnB(either scum or conftown - so good shot) and she flips scum, then molla is confscum too.

This is a very legitimate point brought up by shos, to kindly explain why BoP's bullshit reasoning, is bullshit.

And then BoP replies with this:

If Molla "townreads" the SK, then this risk is minimal.

So, dear Titus, queen of moonlogic, how exactly will Molla, "Allegedly Bo7 scum with me", know who the SK is, and therefore able to townread him? Is Molla psychic? Did Cephrir tell the scumteam who the SK is? Or perhaps Molla used his cop and found the SK? Maybe he was lying about his "idling" actions after all! Such joy!

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All these points seek to prove that Birds of Prey, aka Titus, is part of the scumteam, or quite possibly an Ascetic Serial Killer. Her reasoning is terrible, she uses circular logic to push obviously-unviable-mislynch targets, and frankly her play is so low that it is comparable to Aroniscum.

No, shos, you should absolutely listen to Aronis' reads! He is the best player on the site and his reads are always correct!

FYI, I will be targetting zmuffin tonight with DS. If she is scum, this will vanillaize her.

Zmuffin is a null read.

I recommend Old and Ugly, notsci, or shos.

Shos, I too recommend that you listen to Aronis, and target shos tonight with DS!

- b -

It is no coincidence that the scum in this game have the plan: GO FULL STUPID. They are already down three men and more will fall; we still have 20 players remaining; 16 of which are Town. (20 - 3 - 1 = 16)

- b -

I know about the accident dearie and I love you :*

But you need to understand that if you are scum you cannot be allowed to live... Both you and I are definitely aware of what you are capable of as scum. I am the only one that can stop you.

In so far, the accident happened at day 3 or 4. That means that there were 2 day phases for you to post like town you did in X Men... You didn't.

You have given us no reason for us to believe that you are town. Your scum MO is also 'I am town and I am transparent'. You say the same thing regardless of your alignment; it is up to us to determine if you are transparent or not through your actions. You appear not.

The points you apply onto molla can be applied to any other player. You are working on 'molla is scum because YnB is scum' that's confirmation bias at best and scum manipulation at worst.

I have no idea about your wagon suddenly appearing after you voting Kagami. Correlation does not imply causation. Besides, I will make sure you will get lynched before it ever gets to Lylo. Maybe town finally realised how much smoke you are throwing into people's eyes. You are just finding reasons to scum read people on your wagon just like a caught scum would do.

[Young and Beautiful]

I'd want to keep Titus around solely so we can have enough pages to beat that game with the remaining days. It's only Day 5. With 20 people.

[Young and Beautiful]

I feel proud to part of this achievement.

[Young and Beautiful]

Jesus Christ.

BOP, Shos...if I had a weapon, you'd both be dead.

I have claimed all my results. Not only have I claimed all my results, but I've addressed you directly when you said I DIDN'T claim full results and said, "HEY! WRONG! I'VE CLAIMED MY RESULTS! LOOK!"

THEN, I made a statement, wherein I stated that the next person who suggested I HADN'T claimed my results completely and in full was going to get an earful. As soon as I get off this laptop and to a computer with a mouse, that's exactly what's going to occur.

You have a very powerful weapon. Your vote. Use it and help murder the birds with us!

[Young and Beautiful]

Jesus Christ.

BOP, Shos...if I had a weapon, you'd both be dead.

I have claimed all my results. Not only have I claimed all my results, but I've addressed you directly when you said I DIDN'T claim full results and said, "HEY! WRONG! I'VE CLAIMED MY RESULTS! LOOK!"

THEN, I made a statement, wherein I stated that the next person who suggested I HADN'T claimed my results completely and in full was going to get an earful. As soon as I get off this laptop and to a computer with a mouse, that's exactly what's going to occur.

You have a very powerful weapon. Your vote. Use it and help murder the birds with us!

No...and that is an interesting term to use. Murder is usually done to innocent persons.

That's because I literally want to reach into my computer/phone and strangle them. Murder.

Goat I am sorry for missing your D4 investigation.

S'arright. I was just having an existential crisis...I was starting to wonder if I was actually here.

You should vote BBMolla unless you think they are town too. It is shaping up to be us or them.

I am feeling very frustrated to. All the confirmed scum (meaning the dead and flipped ones) have voted me on Days 1 and 2.

No one is forcing people to discuss what BB and YnB have done outside of their circle jerk that makes them town.

The confirmed scum have voted me too. Continue helping us add post count though, we can beat FE:A.

[Young and Beautiful]

Goat. Birds of Prey literally lied about facts on you; because she was making half assed reads; her focus is just to paint mud on her targets; you weren't part of her lost, and was therefore neglected.

She directly lied with regard to you, as she has been doing for the entirety of the game. Even if you can't see her bullshit on other players, you should have seen this. Why aren't you?

The Goat - Liked his early vote on YnB. Has not gotten in the way of scum wagons.

He hasn't helped them either. Hasn't claimed N4 investigation

Wrong and wronger:

Wrong...aside rom being on the Lemniscate wagon:

vote Abomination

unvote, vote Abomination.

can we kill this?

The following people look remarkably bad:
Abomination

Wronger:

I don't see any reason why The Goat would have been blocked the night before this one.

Hi!

Again, I'm not entirely sure I was blocked. I was told that I got no result.

And it happened again last night. Last night, I tried to investigate Neil.

N1: Mist
N2: NS (duh)
N3: Shos
N4: Neil

Sorry.

Shos, N1 I got that Mist did not have a shard. N2 I got that NS did have a shard.

[Young and Beautiful]

YnB do you have a single scumread not named Titus?

Oversoul. Read.

[Young and Beautiful]

Goat also is not a target for lynching today.

Stating the obvious. There isn't a wagon on Goat. There is, however, a six man large wagon on Titus.

PS: there isn't a wagon on myself either.

[Young and Beautiful]

Goat, why do you think Oversoul is scum? I basically showed you page 6. That is not scum. Rhaego chainsawed Katsuki, the last voter left on Abomination ensuring that wagon died.

YnB, you know there are actually at least 3 scum left and an SK. You are two short.

Your scumreads are what I gather to be: YnB, Kagami, BBMOLLA, Shos, Majiffy, ActionDan

You are two over.

[Young and Beautiful]

Goat, why do you think Oversoul is scum? I basically showed you page 6. That is not scum. Rhaego chainsawed Katsuki, the last voter left on Abomination ensuring that wagon died.

YnB, you know there are actually at least 3 scum left and an SK. You are two short.

Your scumreads are what I gather to be: YnB, Kagami, BBMOLLA, Shos, Majiffy, ActionDan

You are two over.

Forgot the outside chance of notscience and Action Dan has been bumped up to null. A really really really outside chance of Egg (1/100).

The difference is, the rest I am pretty damn sure are town. You aren't. Your lack of scumreads is buddying.

I'm not as eager to chain mislynches as you are.

[Young and Beautiful]

Page 6 'chainsaw voting' hold no relevance at Page 300. I didn't bother to check for reliability of that evidence, but even if it is, the Rhaego reads hold no weight.

[Young and Beautiful]

What the hell is with this speed.

Also has anyone actually given reason for molla town?

He is a powerful JOAT with many pro-town abilities. We are not going there.

[Young and Beautiful]

@Y&B - what do you think of my Bulba quote and how it relates to your theory that BoP is scum?

It is a solid quote.

Much as I hate to admit it, the evidence that you have presented is in favor of BoP. The only reason I can think of for the moment is that BulbaFenix was so disinterested in the game that he forgot his partners. But that is a weak reason.

However, considering that BoP calls the conf town 'scum', this reason might sound as legitimate as any other when compared to BoP's.

Really though, that doesn't discount that my explanation is poor.


I'd like it if you could find more posts and strong evidence. This is a good one. Unfortunately, it might merely be an exception; one post does not grant the scumbirds amnesty.

[Young and Beautiful]

I recall it much earlier. I have been hiding the fact I have a shard bc scum could kill me at any time and take it.

My pm specifically says scum get a power if they have them all.

If Kagami has a shard lynch her. Even before YnB.

And if kagami doesn't have a shard, she is conftown? Or are you making bad contracts?

[Young and Beautiful]

So Kagami is scum regardless if she has a shard or not? Then what was the point of making that statement. At best, if you're town, you're unreasonable. Of course, you're scum, so no surprise there.


Why should I assume that BB is scum? Violate Occam's razor?

[Young and Beautiful]

No. Kagami is scum.

YnB suppose BB is scum, how are you conftown?

That's why I tried to give my message to the towniest player N2, but scum shot her too.

And that's why I didn't give my message to scummy ones like shos or yourself. That's pretty stupid.

[Young and Beautiful]

The odds of BB being town are pretty good, and odds that I am willing to take.

The only reason you are calling BB scum is because to fit your stupid narrative and tunnel on my slot, which is pretty dumb.


Since the odds of BB being town are much larger than he will be scum, I am conf town until proven to the contrary. That's right, my free pass is still valid.

[Young and Beautiful]

If you gave the message to scum and they denied it, you would have a 1 v 1. Doubly so if they denied it if you picked them twice.

I won't have the chance to do so because there are people like you who would have gotten onto me for failing three times in a row.

[Young and Beautiful]

If they denied once, they'd have to create a roleblocker where one doesn't exist.

A roleblocker doesn't exist? Is that a fact? SCUMSLIP?



The most probable scenario in a 30p game is that scum have a roleblocking role. There is no reason to believe the contrary... Unless you know that as a fact. You are desperate scum who has scumslipped. Game.

[Young and Beautiful]

If you have nothing to say or are unable to rebut my points, just say so.

'Nice flail' is a pretty poor response.

[Young and Beautiful]

The most probable scenario in a 30p game is that scum have a roleblocking role. There is no reason to believe the contrary... Unless you know that as a fact. You are desperate scum who has scumslipped. Game.

Would you be willing to lynch Egg on that?

What do you mean?

[Young and Beautiful]

I have always said your claim is fake. That means you weren't blocked. If I believed in a blocker, that would be a slip.

All your opinion, nothing based on fact. I cannot rebut the above post.

[Young and Beautiful]

These are hypothetical. But let me entertain you for the sake of doing so.

No, if BB is Bo7 scum, I lose my conf town status, sadly. Until then, I remain conftown unless proven otherwise.

If over soul and you are town, I will self vote. No way.

[Young and Beautiful]

Well, if both of you magically flip town, or Cephrir rigged the flips along with that 24h delay or whatever,

I will look at shos, Beast, muffin, and Egg/Prohawk.

[Young and Beautiful]

Goat, why do you think Oversoul is scum?

Mainly this as of late.

BB, why aren't you suspicious of The Goat?

It looked as scummy as hell.

I've already explained this.
BB still didn't answer.

I would like to see YnB self vote once BoP and myself flip. I don't know if BoP is town but getting YnB to self vote would be *awesome*.

I think AD, Majiffy, Mhork, BB, The Goat has at least 2 scum if not 3. I need to reevaluate though.

I keep my word. Put a vote on BoP to make this process happen faster.

[Young and Beautiful]

@Y&B - what do you think of my Bulba quote and how it relates to your theory that BoP is scum?

It is a solid quote.

Much as I hate to admit it, the evidence that you have presented is in favor of BoP. The only reason I can think of for the moment is that BulbaFenix was so disinterested in the game that he forgot his partners. But that is a weak reason.

However, considering that BoP calls the conf town 'scum', this reason might sound as legitimate as any other when compared to BoP's.

Really though, that doesn't discount that my explanation is poor.


I'd like it if you could find more posts and strong evidence. This is a good one. Unfortunately, it might merely be an exception; one post does not grant the scumbirds amnesty.

Okay, so I present evidence, that by your own admission, is pretty shocking if BoP is scum.
You then kind of do an odd dance and say "but maybe some people are playing wacky - you need to find more evidence!"

I don't think it works like that.
Isn't he your top scumspect?
Didn't you...y'know, look at some flipped scum ISOs to see if he worked as scum?
Your push and logic suddenly feel like a void to me.

How many posts beyond the one will you need to admit that your case is unsupported and insane?
Give me a hard number.

Three. There are 7600 posts in the game; if you can only find one piece of evidence that supports BoP town, while there are hundreds of those from BoP that suggests BoP scum, then your piece of evidence can be considered an anomaly.

[Young and Beautiful]

I definitely agree with your suspicion on YnB. Which is why I've been pressing the YnB vs. Molla idea, I'd like a YnB lynch currently. The idea that we could get two scum for the price of one (so to speak) is thrilling. Though it would be at the cost of a town. I don't know if we can really honestly say YnB is conftown until Molla flips, because there aren't many people who would read Molla as town for sure. So it'll be that constant wonder anyways. By the time we get to a place where YnB can be considered conftown, she'll probably be dead by scum anyway. While I like the idea of forcing scum to get rid of conftown, I like the idea of lynching two scum possibly better.

The possibility of lynching two scums = 0%

The cost: one townie = 100%

Seems like bad odds to me. Why don't you go to your local lottery shop or raffle and try your luck there? It's the idea of earning a million bucks for the price of 5 bucks.

[Young and Beautiful]

It's a 0% possibility because I know the answer. From your point of view, let's say 10%.

The possibility of lynching two scums = 10%

The cost: one townie: 90%


Those are very generous odds. I'm sure your bank interest rate doesn't even come close to that amount.

Unfortunately, it still seems like a bad deal.

[Young and Beautiful]

Neil is scum? Huh. There is a fine line between dumb and scum, muffin.

[Young and Beautiful]

your posts are as worthless as your opinion

I like this, though. Shooting this at Titus later.

[Young and Beautiful]

Neil is scum? Huh. There is a fine line between dumb and scum, muffin.

You think titus crosses that line

Oh, pie. So they are scum together huh.


Here's the problem: Titus isn't dumb. But in this game she is acting either dumb or scum. Since her being dumb is eliminated, she must be scum. Clear cut case.

Don't know about Neil .

[Young and Beautiful]

It's a 0% possibility because I know the answer. From your point of view, let's say 10%.

The possibility of lynching two scums = 10%

The cost: one townie: 90%


Those are very generous odds. I'm sure your bank interest rate doesn't even come close to that amount.

Unfortunately, it still seems like a bad deal.

I'd like to know how you're figuring your odds and percentages? Since you want to use them, you must have an accurate formula?

I made those up. I'm trying to prove a point, silly.

[Young and Beautiful]

I wasn't implying they are scum together just how ridiculous a statement that was given who you're pushing

Look, Titus isn't dumb. If they stuck to their hydra as an anonymous hydra, I might not be pushing them so hard. You can say that I am relying heavily on meta, admittedly.

[Young and Beautiful]

Titus may not be dumb but this is far from the most nonsensical play I've seen from her

That is the whole point! They are scum.

I wasn't implying they are scum together just how ridiculous a statement that was given who you're pushing

Look, Titus isn't dumb. If they stuck to their hydra as an anonymous hydra, I might not be pushing them so hard. You can say that I am relying heavily on meta, admittedly.

Meta dar so broke. So so broke. You shall never speak of meta reading me again if you are town.

Anyone with any extensive experience with me is telling you I am town.

That's one of the drawbacks of you flipping town, admittedly. It would be very embarrassing! But I am not giving up.

Nobody has more experience with you than me in this game. That is a fact. Ika is not here. Saying that 'you are town' doesn't mean anything; you know that you are very capable of making blatant lies as scum.

I am not believing it.

[Young and Beautiful]

Why are you so convinced Molla is town YnB? As scum, I love having one townie I buddy up wiyh and defend the shit out of them. If I am persuasive enough with that townie, they effectively become as scum voter with a town role pm.

Because I would not have sent a friendly neighbor message to one of my scumreads. That would be pretty stupid.

Molla is a town read that I sent my information to. Considering that the person who began suspecting him was yourself; AND you are number 1 public enemy, I don't think I'll take anything you say seriously.


Your 'wall of win' is conf scum akin to my conf town status; only when the appropriate flip happens shall we think of the contrary. Until then, I will not consider any of those possibilities, and neither will the smarter members of the town.

[Young and Beautiful]

Well the only way to argue that point is to actually reveal which head is not allowed to read me anymore.

I am B.

[Young and Beautiful]

The fact that you say blantant lies as scum is problem numero uno. Lol.

Keep on Lol-ing and your head will be Rolling.


Somebody ISO BoP and Ctrl F for 'Lol'. Shos can do it; he's funny.

[Young and Beautiful]

Y and B, you think you have more exp. with Titus than me, or Mala?

Now neal, why would I do that? (You a favor to unvote bop)

Neil. * And because that's what town do? They work together with other town to find and eliminate scum. Or, are you really the SK? Which makes sense why you'd question working together with town...

Yes.


And mala is dead. She was a good person.

[Young and Beautiful]

You know what's bad? I can't say 'okay, let's call it a day, let's just get a cop to check BoP and look at someone else', because LolAscetic.

What a cop-out. Terrible. Annoying.

[Young and Beautiful]

Y and B, you think you have more exp. with Titus than me, or Mala?

Now neal, why would I do that? (You a favor to unvote bop)

Neil. * And because that's what town do? They work together with other town to find and eliminate scum. Or, are you really the SK? Which makes sense why you'd question working together with town...

Yes.


And mala is dead. She was a good person.

Okay, seeing as I don't know who you are, I can't argue that point. But me and Mala both have a lot of exp with Titus, and a lot of different experiences combined, and we both read her strongly as town. You claim to have had a lot of experience and have a different result conclusion, so don't blame me for doubting this meta read of yours.

Mala is dead. Are you talking with the dead?

Birds of Prey was pretty much a non presence while mala was alive; except for Day 1 where Mala herself was a non presence. I don't see how she could possibly get any legitimate read on BoP.

Even then, reads change throughout the game. So that's invalid.

[Young and Beautiful]

Y and B, you think you have more exp. with Titus than me, or Mala?

Now neal, why would I do that? (You a favor to unvote bop)

Neil. * And because that's what town do? They work together with other town to find and eliminate scum. Or, are you really the SK? Which makes sense why you'd question working together with town...

Yes.


And mala is dead. She was a good person.

Okay, seeing as I don't know who you are, I can't argue that point. But me and Mala both have a lot of exp with Titus, and a lot of different experiences combined, and we both read her strongly as town. You claim to have had a lot of experience and have a different result conclusion, so don't blame me for doubting this meta read of yours.

Name your games. I am willing to argue with you over this.

If you ISO me, I have listed multiple (named around 7) examples of Titus games that show that she is behaving as scum. I will not confirm if I was actually in those games or not; for obvious reasons. These are all games that can be found in Theme Park that I may or may not have read through in my free time (because I cannot reveal my identity).

[Young and Beautiful]

You know what's bad? I can't say 'okay, let's call it a day, let's just get a cop to check BoP and look at someone else', because LolAscetic.

What a cop-out.

Terrible. Annoying.

Bahahahaha I see what you did there.

Y and B, you think you have more exp. with Titus than me, or Mala?

Now neal, why would I do that? (You a favor to unvote bop)

Neil. * And because that's what town do? They work together with other town to find and eliminate scum. Or, are you really the SK? Which makes sense why you'd question working together with town...

Yes.


And mala is dead. She was a good person.

Okay, seeing as I don't know who you are, I can't argue that point. But me and Mala both have a lot of exp with Titus, and a lot of different experiences combined, and we both read her strongly as town. You claim to have had a lot of experience and have a different result conclusion, so don't blame me for doubting this meta read of yours.

Mala is dead. Are you talking with the dead?

Birds of Prey was pretty much a non presence while mala was alive; except for Day 1 where Mala herself was a non presence. I don't see how she could possibly get any legitimate read on BoP.

Even then, reads change throughout the game. So that's invalid.

No but Mala WAS in our thread outside of this game... before she died.

And really? Funny before Mala died, everyone was crying (including you) about how BoP was scum. So I'd say it's pretty valid.

Yeah. I'm morally consistent. I still think that BoP is still, but haven't begun the industrial wagon push until today.

I don't remember mala or you making a read on BoP while mala was alive, maybe I am forgetful. If you did, show me the post where either of you called BoP town. I want to know if you two are consistent with your BoP reads as well, and not magically townreading her today because you are blinded by her scum bullshit she is ejecting at the thread

[Young and Beautiful]

*still scum.

If mala and your read on BoP was in the secret neighborhood that you had, then it doesn't count. I want to see your public acknowledgement that you thought BoP was town while mala was alive.

[Young and Beautiful]

You, as caught scum, flailed by claiming scum and that you were part of the other scum team during multiball, when you were cop caught in Marvel Avengers Alliance.

[Young and Beautiful]

your posts are as worthless as your opinion

Anyway. The defendant doesn't get to talk. Neil will be your defense, and I your prosecution. The jury is 5 on you, the other 5 undecided.

[Young and Beautiful]

Yes. Relevance here. I sm an ascetic.

Relevance is that you are a good liar.

You are lying about yourself being a bad liar. Amusing.

[Young and Beautiful]

your posts are as worthless as your opinion

[Young and Beautiful]

I was caught pretty quick with that lie too. It was a lie of last resort.

No, you weren't. The town actually waited till deadline to lynch you.

Just like your eventual fate today.

[Young and Beautiful]

Birds of Prey sounds like this guy.

Im legitimately trying to help guys. My reads.

Majiffy is obvtown. Anyone off my wagon is obvtown.

Muffin is null.

Anyone on my wagon, except majiffy and muffin, is obvscum.

Mhork Shos and Oversoul are all likely town. While if you are town, there's likely scum on your wagon, it's too big for all to be obvscum.

Even then, Egg's total exclusion of the redirect theory should come back to bite him on the ass if you are town. The vote patterns on your predecessor do not scream town so far in my analysis. Pretty much the only reason I'm hestitating is because of your claim and I have a thing of lynching the doctors.

Fine. Ummm notsci, Mhork and ummm Kagami? Can be null.

Yay. Thank you guys so much. Use my reads and lead us to victory.

[Young and Beautiful]

Let me just put this out here that if Birds of Prey flips town, I will self vote for the entirety of tomorrow's day phase, provided that I am not shot at night.

Of course, I will be the only one of my wagon, so it's only a vanity wagon, but that should be enough to satisfy you.

No more 'what will you do when I flip town'. Because you won't.

[Young and Beautiful]

I am flipping town. If you were an expert at reading my meta, you would know that I have never reached out to this extent as scum, that I never have trouble gaining traction as scum unless I intend not to gain traction, that people do not vote park on my ass as scum, that I have never done an in depth vca as scum.

If you had actually seen my recent games, you would know how accurate my vca is. It is fucking scary.

In the rare event you are town, make my death fucking mean something and sheep my wall of win.

You talking to me?

In the rare event

you

are town, I'll be reasonable and read that 'wall of win' you so advertise. Then I'll consider it.

I have not read your 'wall of win' yet. And I will only do so if you flip town. If you flip scum, as I am placing all my bets on, then no bueno.

[Young and Beautiful]

If I have a cop guilty on shos, should I reveal it?

- y -

[Young and Beautiful]

Is that a no?

- y -

[Young and Beautiful]

I forgot to bookmark this game on my main account. That probably explains why I thought it already ended... apparently I've been gone for so long, I'm just going to sit out and watch as B wows you all!

Love and kisses,

- y -

[Young and Beautiful]

Also I feel like a lot of the arguing BoP is scum is really circular. "Assuming Titus is scum, these things make sense for her to do as scum. Therefore she's scum."

PEDIT:
Our benevolent obv town leader decreed that we needed to spam our way to longest game, egg. Just skim like me. You're not missing anything at all.

You're hypocritical. The fact that BoP is spouting nonsense that the only conf town in the game - yours truly - is scum, makes it worse than any of the complaints that you have raised at any point.

"Assuming YnB is scum (remember that this is not a town thing to think), BBmolla is scum. Therefore BBmolla and YnB is scum"


Like, literally this. She wants to eliminate the claimed town JOAT and conftown, I mean,

This makes no sense from either a town or scum perspective -> but it has obvious scum motivations and is more likely to come from scum than from town.

I don't know if you're being obstinate or if I'm the one, but considering that I'm the expert here on Titus, AND I have more town credibility than you do, I'd implore you to defer to me.


@squirrel girl: haven't read the posts yet and will respond to it later.


- b -

[Young and Beautiful]

Also, hi Y! I've missed you! We're going to be part of a record-breaking game! Aren't you excited?

We're making history!

- b -

[Young and Beautiful]

You realize I too know a good chunk of Titus meta too right? I used to be able to call scum Titus in a heartbeat, IIRC. I'm telling you that my knowledge of motivation and reasoning and all that leads me to fairly confidently believe that Titus is town. I don't care what she's trying to fucking do with her reasoning. The reasoning itself comes from a townie mindset.

Also BBMolla is not conftown, and Titus' view on the matter makes sense if you are actually looking at your two slots with a shred of skepticism. You know who shows skepticism? Town tryign to find scum.

Her view is that Mollascum can imply YB scum. Not the other way around.

Weren't you the one that said very clearly that you have not seen Titus scum before? What's this about being able to call scum Titus in a heartbeat?

If I misremembered, I beg your pardon.

- b -

[Young and Beautiful]

@Squirrel Girl

I have looked over the new evidence that you have provided, and sadly none of them reach the standards of the first original post that you quoted that had caught my attention.

This is your first piece of evidence:

vote BoP

moonlogic=scum!titus

check streetracers and how you want to die

how you want to die:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=51356

street racers:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34551

both games had moonlogic and thats how she got outed as scum

It is a very poor piece of evidence and does not point to Titus town in any way. May I remind you that the action of calling Titus scum is not necessarily scumvstown interactions, but might be a scumvsscum interaction in the form of distancing. Since this post was made in Day 1, all the more that distancing would have occurred. The fact that you have chosen this piece of evidence to defend Titus, only shows that distance attempts, no matter how minor or small or how long ago, can still have an impact on the game.

This piece of evidence is poor because: The post by Abomination itself is half-hearted and non-committal. A vote on BoP does not a Town BoP make. It could certainly be perceived as them both being scumpartners, and thus a half-hearted push on Day 1 would not lead to a lynch, although they both knew the answers as to who was scum.

The second piece of evidence that you have linked:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6013030

As the above, this reveals nothing about Titus alignment. I believe the main point that you were looking at was:

Rhaego is scummy because they are doing nothing at all that is helpful to the town. Their posts are just dumb questions with zero content what so ever. Their claim of scum hunting is not actually that. It feels like they are going more for making noise than anything else.

This is why I think Rhaego is scum.

Why is Rhaego the worst offender of this?

If Rhaego is scum, so is Egg for this post. It subtly says only the worst offender at a particular transgression can be scum and searches for another player to make worse than Rhaego.

- Venus Fly Trap -

This is a scum post attempting to connect a Rhaego scum flip to Egg.

I'll continue this after I wake up and take care of a few more pressing issues. I'd rather not do any more of these when I'm this tired.

On to page 40.

-Bulba

This post is very interesting, notably the sentence "This is a scum post attempting to connect a Rhaego scum flip to Egg.". Knowing that Rhaego scum flip is actually true, and also Egg is town as far as we can see (although this isn't confirmed, it can be safely assumed), it is not a stretch to say that BulbaFenix might have been telling the truth. There is no reason to believe that it is

NOT

a scum post to connect a Rhaego scum flip to Egg. In fact, I feel that this post points towards BoP scum rather than BoP town... your choice of evidence is not very helpful to your case. I can infer that you are not a Literature student.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6072137

I don't think that this post means anything.

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As much as I appreciate your efforts in finding three relevant posts to help us shed some light on BoP's alignment, I did mention that they should be three

good and convincing

piece of evidence. The posts that you have found were not convincing, and I am unable to give them the credit as I have for the first original piece of evidence that you have found in an earlier post.

Sorry, but you might have to find three (actually, two more, since you have already found one)

solid

pieces of evidence to convince me that BoP is town, because at the moment, you only have one, and from the above efforts, it appears that you are unable to find any more relevant ones.

I still think that BoP is scum.

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[Young and Beautiful]

I remember many games where I had pegged Titus as scum, though now I can't remember if she were actually scum or not.

...

How does this even happen? Did you die all the time before she had flipped? Did you always replace out before you could see her flip?



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