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-I didn't like the Sven jump in 175. The part where e calls Sven out for being in a meeting seems especially weak to me. Scum fabricating reason. All his reasons for voting Sven were regurgitated--why not credit them directly? Similarly, if he's agreeing with other people's thought processes, why isn't he posting that he is town reading them? BROs lack of a vote isn't scummy, a lot of people in MS don't use their vote liberally (Marangal). Attacking BRO or not having a scum read is fucking stupid because neither did I. And many other people. Attack on Sven's 160 seems really really asinine.
Very slow on giving town reads. Mollie and I werent given a town read until post 500. I feel like it should have been earlier.
Votes: Sven and varsoon. Can't argue, but both seem like wagons that would be easiest to build a case on, varsoon especially. Makes me doubt.
Obviously I wouldn't normally be using Sven ad varsoon vote to call someone out but I'm just looking for hints of scum motivation right now
2 vote came out of nowhere
Going down this list...
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14. RachMarie
It's rach.
18. TiphaineDeath
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At what point do you realize varsoon is stupid and that the gambit won't workIn post 1613, Cabd wrote:Heading back off again, but I'd like to mention that Varsoon dropped his little gambit and then everyone totally forgot about it. Make him use it on 2 or something.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Hey. Sorry, can you give me a read list from you and buld? I can't find it
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I'm only ever considering rev after 2 flips scumIn post 1621, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
plz lynch in the order of aj <--- rev <--- and then hopefully you will get to the point where you will want to lynch andy. you don't have to vote him just keep the focus.In post 1610, Nachomamma8 wrote:Again, going to take another step back. I feel good about the town block.
AJ is scum. 2 is scum. TMT is scum. MS could be scum, Rev could be scum.
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Have you SEEN how shitty all his reasons wereIn post 1617, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this is suuuuuper scummyIn post 1461, TheReverend wrote:Ok jon is clearly not scum, unless he's deliberately being quiet so he can pretend to have forgotten the game. No-one forgets a game in which they're scum.
Also GIF did you ask me a question that I did not answer
Also did anyone else ask me a question that I did not answer
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Lets take bets on who's going to be night killed n1 lolIn post 1625, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I won't be alive that long.In post 1621, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:plz lynch in the order of aj <--- rev <--- and then hopefully you will get to the point where you will want to lynch andy. you don't have to vote him just keep the focus.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Wait soIn post 1629, Nachomamma8 wrote:I know at least one of your scumreads is wrong because TMT has dropped at least 6 newscumtells.
How about
2->Aj for the next two days
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You know why nacho isn't voting TMT I mean come onIn post 1640, ² wrote:
Then fucking vote him?In post 1629, Nachomamma8 wrote:I know at least one of your scumreads is wrong because TMT has dropped at least 6 newscumtells.
And get Metal next, he's either scum or a liar who pretends to be reading stuff he couldn't have possibly read and be making reads he couldn't have possibly been making for no good reason.
You're also still wrong about TD
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and because he's voting youIn post 1649, ² wrote:
No I do not. Enlighten me?In post 1642, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You know why nacho isn't voting TMT I mean come on
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You know that gambits only workIn post 1674, Varsoon wrote:We could use my gambit when/if 2 hits L-1, if only to confirm things.
I'd also like to see it actually work, given that it'd drive Orc up a wall if it did.
When people don't know you're doing it
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I love 14 hr time differenceIn post 1767, ² wrote:I am listening to live zydeco and drinking a hurricane. wish you were all here.
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Because your reads suckpedit - incorrect. You want to share you reasons for thinking scum, or are you just going to soft push people without providng us with any input?
But that isn't necessarily scum indicative
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OkayIn post 1941, Nachomamma8 wrote:2 still.
By the way
I liked Sven and I think he's town
And the WIFOM post is getting misrep'd
From my perspective he wrote that and then realized that it could be seen as WIFOM so tagged it on because I mean he doesn't give a shit anymore lol
I like rev too maybe but Sven is town man I don't know how to say this
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this is a lieIn post 2059, Varsoon wrote:
It's beautiful that Orc and 2 have made the most posts in this game but they're also usually in null piles or are pretty controversially read.In post 2058, Keybladewielder wrote:Haven't paid much attention to Orc or 2,, but Nacho literally always plays the same from what Ive seen. So nulln o him
did varsoon do the gambit yetWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Drawing attention to thisIn post 2066, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
this is a lieIn post 2059, Varsoon wrote:
It's beautiful that Orc and 2 have made the most posts in this game but they're also usually in null piles or are pretty controversially read.In post 2058, Keybladewielder wrote:Haven't paid much attention to Orc or 2,, but Nacho literally always plays the same from what Ive seen. So nulln o him
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I missed all of this in my skimmingIn post 2119, GuyInFreezer wrote:In post 1812, Varsoon wrote:In post 1811, TheReverend wrote:me me me me, quick before TD walls me
Alright, the first step, then.
This'll be easier with you than most other players, actually.
I want a full claim from you, including the flavor paragraph and character that you are.
This shouldn't be hard, since you already claimed and all that.In post 1821, Varsoon wrote:In post 1820, ² wrote:
You inherited my read on svenskt, which went to pretty strong town when he replaced out. Prior to that I was willing to wait a day and see how my read shaped up. Our vote is on someone we agree looks scummy.In post 1809, TheReverend wrote:Alright, whatever. I'll maybe take your anti-town comments on board if you flip town. Maybe. I still think you're scum, I find it strange that you're not applying any pressure on me. I'd expect townies to be extremely wary of me, because of my tracker modifier. Mollie is on the ball when she worries about a scum tracker. Like I said earlier, town thought process. Scum know I'm miller. Townies do not know. You don't seem to be interacting with me in a way that makes me believe you don't know what my role is. Therefore, I think you're scum. So my vote stays.
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Wait, wait, wait.
How does scum know he's miller?
Because, as far as I know, scum would only know who other scum is.
I guess he means that scum can infer that he's miller because they know he's town and he claimed miller?
Still, blah, I had a townread on sven and I'm way less sure about Rev.
In post 1816, Varsoon wrote:
Doesn't work if he paraphrases.In post 1814, ² wrote:I recommend paraphrasing the shit out of that stuff because mod kill. Also, suggest you guys check with bork before proceeding.
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It -should- be rules legal, given that he's not taking a screen-cap, etc.
Because there's nothing that lets us know if he's 100% quoting the PM, right?
P-Edit:
Ah well.
My idea was to counterclaim with my PM, minus role, and then third parties could confirm that the rhetoric fits, etc.
/shrug
It -would- work if it was rules legal, but I guess not.
In post 1817, Varsoon wrote:Makes me think--in a Lylo situation, all players could quote their role PMs directly, and the one guy who isn't modkilled is the scum, because he would have to lie or be modkilled. Then again, I guess if everyone is modkilled, there's no one to lynch the remaining scum.
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Varsoon: describe your interaction with 2 yesterday and tell me where you were leaning on the slot, specifying every change in your read through the course of the day
Thank you
Oh yeah and it seemed like you were still votin me by day end, spin, what was up with thatWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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He replaced in halfway through the night rightIn post 2810, Cabd wrote:Oh, or he could post reads on a player that is dead. Dammit waynegg, you're town aren't you.
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um noIn post 2857, Ghostlin wrote:
Math wise, if we presume 5 scum, and there are 11 people on the wagon...let's just say the odds of someone NOT bussing aren't grand.In post 2854, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why do you presume at least one scum is on the wagon
And how do you know it's multiball?
Muitiball was a presumption with multiple kills and no claimed Vig--I tend to presume the worse, but we could have an SK or an unclaimed Vig.
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Ghostlin has a stronger town read on me than I do at himIn post 2869, Cabd wrote:Wooooooooooooow.
I sure as hell saw squat. But okay then orc, you outed it. Nice.
Alignments unconfirmed, right? You both feeling town on each other then?
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Okay but a case that is built with the mindset of POE in a random 11 person sample doesn't sit right with me. I for one think it completely possible that no scum were on the wagon. Not likely but certainly possible.In post 2875, Ghostlin wrote:
OK. Random-wise, you're right, it doesn't make sense except I suspect certain people being Town. Now, 11 players out of 20, 1 being scum...isn't rubbish, actually. That said, I did find some things in the ISOs.In post 2873, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:But I saw your post and realized that your reasoning doesn't actually make sense wrt POE in 2 wagon.
Although not Venmar's ISO, because don'tfuckingcare didn't really fucking care.
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It's not abrasive in a town way thoIn post 2788, Sajin wrote:What you are reading is how abrasive my playstyle can be and because it is different than how the average player plays town you assume he must but be opposite of what the average player is (town) and is therefore scum. If that is correct, then please talk to nacho or someone else and get a reason from them. If that is not correct, feel free to ask me some questions.
I mean. I don't mind abrasive play. I have abrasive play. I think it's good to a certain extent.
but I think that some of your accusations have too little actual substance and too much flowery insults.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Will wait for varsoon's replies to talk to you about himIn post 2916, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:his initial reaction was not trolling thoughWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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OkayIn post 2975, Varsoon wrote:hum. Didn't get what I quote tagged from the first page of ISO.
Regardless, B&B, why aren't you scum?
So are we lynching varsoon before or after aj
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Yeah fuck man I'm scared of your opinions yeah that's it
To everyone else: sorry I haven't been posting substantially, but I don't really see a lot to talk about given today's lynch is a bit of a foregone conclusion before now. Ill make something big when I get homeWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Oh my GOD.In post 2981, Varsoon wrote:In post 2979, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Yeah fuck man I'm scared of your opinions yeah that's it
To everyone else: sorry I haven't been posting substantially, but I don't really see a lot to talk about given today's lynch is a bit of a foregone conclusion before now. Ill make something big when I get home
You're squirming again.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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This is so faked considering thre was 8 minutes between the votesIn post 2737, Venmar wrote:PEdit: errrrrWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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How am I squirming and why are you trying to discredit me with something that obviously just isn't trueIn post 2981, Varsoon wrote:In post 2979, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Yeah fuck man I'm scared of your opinions yeah that's it
To everyone else: sorry I haven't been posting substantially, but I don't really see a lot to talk about given today's lynch is a bit of a foregone conclusion before now. Ill make something big when I get home
You're squirming again.In post 2676, Varsoon wrote:
It's not a fence when I'm pretty outspokenly for 2's Town status and even made a case for it based on ISO evidence.In post 2660, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
How's that fence you're working on?In post 2646, Varsoon wrote: I think 2 is town.
But we've only got 3 days.
I don't wanna vote 2.
But there's a chance I'm wrong and 2's scum.
So
I don't know what to think.
I think 2's a better town player if 2 is town than most of you guys.
But this -is- a game with 20 players.
We can mislynch a few, I think.
I don't wanna.
But we can.
How's that name-calling working out for you?In post 2677, Varsoon wrote:@Andrius' 2659
You couldn't sound more like a stuck-up, condescending person.
People like you are why I don't want to play mafia on this site.
Regardless, 2 is town.
You could push through the 2 lynch or, you know, actually lynch someone who's likely scum AND actively doing work that is causing town misdirection, etc.In post 2690, Varsoon wrote:In post 2680, GuyInFreezer wrote:you took it out of context.
Andrius was just reiterating Varsoon's thought process.
GIF, can you convince me that 2 is scum?
I'm not buying it.How did this progression work out?
And this was while Varsoon was talking about the 2 wagon being badIn post 2694, Varsoon wrote:I also really don't like Cabd, for some reason.
Vote: Cabd
I'll vote here for now.
I don't know what makes him town, and it's weird that he's so conf-town when I don't think of him as such.
I'll do some ISO work and see what I can figure out.
I don't see the progression here
2 was not a deadline lynch
Why did Varsoon switch suddenly to putting a vote down on 2?
Cabd vote: Scum flailing to direct a counterwagon? I don't see any other reason for it. It can't be town because Varsoon obviously didn't want to direct a counterwagon that would actually /work/.
I feel, Nacho, like it is because of the defense you and others are giving Varsoon for his "crazy play" that he is actively TRYING to fit his play to your expectations. In that sense, you are teaching Varsoon how to act town.
That's not what we're doing.
WE're not trying to teach people how to act town. We are trying to find scum.
But to me, between the chaos he is causing in the thread with gambits and all that shit and the whole talk about pizza just seemed very /forced/ to me, it looks like he's trying to conform into the standard you openly set for him.
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