Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[waynegg]

How bout this

You just sheep one of nacho, myself, or bb for your votes

It's okay because you're town

VOTE: Aj

In response to TheRev when he first subbed in. Reads nothing but scum. Great that Rev is town and all, but how exactly does that make it ok for him to sheep Orc. I still haven't found a reason to take Orc out of the scum pile. Still reading though and posting what I notice.

[Varsoon]

I think 2 is town.
But we've only got 3 days.
I don't wanna vote 2.
But there's a chance I'm wrong and 2's scum.
So
I don't know what to think.
I think 2's a better town player if 2 is town than most of you guys.
But this -is- a game with 20 players.
We can mislynch a few, I think.
I don't wanna.
But we can.

How's that fence you're working on?

It's not a fence when I'm pretty outspokenly for 2's Town status and even made a case for it based on ISO evidence.

How's that name-calling working out for you?

[Varsoon]

@Andrius' 2659


You couldn't sound more like a stuck-up, condescending person.
People like you are why I don't want to play mafia on this site.

Regardless, 2 is town.
You could push through the 2 lynch or, you know, actually lynch someone who's likely scum AND actively doing work that is causing town misdirection, etc.

[Varsoon]

"Do something to have a stronger voice"

I'm going to stash this with ones like
"You're poor? Just make a million dollars"
or
"You're depressed? Just be happy, idiot."

The authority of voice in this game is deferred to people with a majority of games played on this site.
It isn't as if I can build that sort of credibility in one post.

[Aj The Epic]

^
Misrep

How so? I quoted the direct area, bolded exactly what I was talking about and asked what he was talking about. This is a question worth asking: Why does he naturally assume 2 is town?

[GuyInFreezer]

you took it out of context.
Andrius was just reiterating Varsoon's thought process.

[Andrius]

@Andrius' 2659


You couldn't sound more like a stuck-up, condescending person.
People like you are why I don't want to play mafia on this site.

Regardless, 2 is town.
You could push through the 2 lynch or, you know, actually lynch someone who's likely scum AND actively doing work that is causing town misdirection, etc.

If you think

I

am a stuck-up, condescending person, let this serve as a warning should you choose to stay on the site; the site that I know and love

d

was full of stuck-up, condescending people. But I loved them. I'm merely the remnant of a time long gone when VRK, Kinetic, and MeMe ran the queues and mith was on-site.

Yes, I am condescending. But I cannot be proactive without being blunt.

2 is doing plenty to "actively cause town misdirection". You are too. Your fencesitting and waffling on this whole "do I actually have to lynch someone who may be town" is actually a detriment as its not helping and you're not really proposing a solution to the problem. I want to lynch 2. You don't. You don't provide a solution and only complain. :/

"Do something to have a stronger voice"

I'm going to stash this with ones like
"You're poor? Just make a million dollars"
or
"You're depressed? Just be happy, idiot."

The authority of voice in this game is deferred to people with a majority of games played on this site.
It isn't as if I can build that sort of credibility in one post.

No, its deferred to those who actually post and contribute.
My voice didn't matter before I started posting and contributing.
Nacho wouldn't matter if he didn't post.

Our perceptions may be different but there is only one reality.
You see the people with tenure as having a greater say.
I see it as the people who post and contribute having the say.
We can go into Day Two here with me posting once every 3 days and see who has more say; I guarantee you it won't be the guy who will be called out for lurking and posts every 72 hours.

[Andrius]

Varsoon is still town, BTW.
Read is shakier, but I still see most of this coming from a scum mindset.

Besides, if what he says he actually believes, scum_varsoon wouldn't want to pick a fight with someone with years of tenure who apparently has way more say than he ever will.

[Andrius]

coming from a town mindset*

[Cabd]

Waynegg throw out a few town and scum reads so I can get a grip on you.

[²]

coming from a town mindset*

agree.

- f

[Mac]

metal sonic can you post some of your previous games please.

Somebody asked you a question about me and you never answered IIRC. Would you mind humoring it?

can you please point out where?

this answer may not come 'til morning, however.

[Mac]

How bout this

You just sheep one of nacho, myself, or bb for your votes

It's okay because you're town

VOTE: Aj

In response to TheRev when he first subbed in. Reads nothing but scum. Great that Rev is town and all, but how exactly does that make it ok for him to sheep Orc. I still haven't found a reason to take Orc out of the scum pile. Still reading though and posting what I notice.

orc, beauty, nacho and myself are considered a town bloc at the moment. I don't mind people sheeping any of the four listed because I read the other three as town and know my own role.

now if you could comment on anything other that orc as you read and notice, that would be great cos so far it seems like your focus is on orc.

[Mac]

693

"I've never rolled a scum"

700

In response to if Nacho/Mollie could differentiate his scum from his town- " I hope not"

VOTE ORC

Obv still reading, and it looks like the vote is all but decided, this is just the best I have to this point. More later providing day doesn't end on me.

hey you know what wayne? this is a fucking blatant misrep. what orc actually said:

do you think Nacho/mollie and others who regularly play with you would be able to differentiate your town game from your scum game?

Well I wouldn't know

I hope not

the bolded part is absolutely key

basically you can either continue misrepping people and be lynched for it soon enough (because ALOT of people scumread your slot - this won't help) or you can try and act town, yeah?

[Varsoon]

@Andy: Not really a cool response, but whatever. I'd rather not talk about the way authority works in this game, or on this site, or how people play on this site, because it just leads to me being frustrated.

As far as doing other things, I've pushed for an AJ lynch.
Dude's really scummy.
However, should 2 flip town, does anyone think there's scum on 2's wagon?
Andrius, orcinus_theoriginal, Nachomamma8, BROseidon, Sajin, BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac, GuyInFreezer, TheReverend is the pool for it as of last mod post.

[Varsoon]

you took it out of context.
Andrius was just reiterating Varsoon's thought process.

GIF, can you convince me that 2 is scum?

I'm not buying it.

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

is Aj really pushing TMT as scum for having 8 null reads out of 20?

I don't think there is anything wrong with that. sure if we were in a micro game that would be a different story but that is a bizarre reason to try and clarify your "confirmed scum" read.

5 of those reads were auto null for posting less than like 5 times.

I apologize for being inactive- I was hospitalized for appendicitis, and I'll have to catch up now. Catch up post coming up.

[waynegg]

Waynegg throw out a few town and scum reads so I can get a grip on you.

Sure thing, but you aren't going to like it.

Town
17. Nachomamma8 except for 557
11. Mac
19. waynegg
20. Varsoon
5. BROseidon
16. TheReverend- Miller?

Scum
9. GiF 636 complains about being invisible then goes invisibl
18. TiphaineDeath 663 excuses are like assholes, every scum has one.
13. orcinus_theoriginal- already stated
4. BeautyAndTheBeast (Majiffy + pirate mollie) as pointed out in 1014
6. Cabd 1146, 1360 & 1364- opportunistic (this is also very much meta. Cabd plays a strong town as town, but an even stronger town as wolf. The way he's playing thus far suggests the latter)
14. RachMarie 1149

How bout this

You just sheep one of nacho, myself, or bb for your votes

It's okay because you're town

VOTE: Aj

In response to TheRev when he first subbed in. Reads nothing but scum. Great that Rev is town and all, but how exactly does that make it ok for him to sheep Orc. I still haven't found a reason to take Orc out of the scum pile. Still reading though and posting what I notice.

orc, beauty, nacho and myself are considered a town bloc at the moment. I don't mind people sheeping any of the four listed because I read the other three as town and know my own role.

now if you could comment on anything other that orc as you read and notice, that would be great cos so far it seems like your focus is on orc.

Well see, D1 I trust no one whether I've played with them or not. Did once and it fucked me royally, so you can go with a power block all you want. I go case by case.

Still reading on 64, but thought I should check in on the current game as well.

[Varsoon]

My top scumreads are TD, Ser Arthur Dayne, and AJ.

But these people are obviously scummy,
I think one of the 'town' is definitely scum.


Since Mac seems active--who do you think is scum/town, Mac?
I'm reading your recent activity as really pro-town, so I feel more comfortable about asking you this sort of thing.

[Varsoon]

I also really don't like Cabd, for some reason.

Vote: Cabd

I'll vote here for now.
I don't know what makes him town, and it's weird that he's so conf-town when I don't think of him as such.
I'll do some ISO work and see what I can figure out.

[waynegg]

And my focus is on Orc because there are numerous posts of his that went for empathy, OMGUS, created WIFOM, suggested sheeping and/or alluded to buddying (on D1, Really?!?), or had inconsistencies. I just pointed out the most obvious to me. He is my #1 read.

[RachMarie]

Var you could also look over his play here he was town in this newbie game... http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=25373

[GuyInFreezer]

you took it out of context.
Andrius was just reiterating Varsoon's thought process.

GIF, can you convince me that 2 is scum?

I'm not buying it.

I'm scumreading that slot based on fery's post alone. (screw reading bulder posts. His posts gives me too much headache.)
Basically, her overreaction against Mollie (who apparently played with fery a lot before) followed by vote which looked like a fearvote, and her degradation of posts.

[RachMarie]

Way could you get an avatar please?

I presume this is your offsite buddy Cabd?

[waynegg]

Will do Rach. The pics on my ipad are too large, but will work on it once I get off work.