Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:47 am

VOTE: Metal Sonic

confscum

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:55 am

Metal Sonic needs more votes

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #14 (isolation #2) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:55 am

In post 12, dntfkingcare wrote:Hello there!

Do something.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #18 (isolation #3) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:01 am

In post 13, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Metal Sonic needs more votes

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #24 (isolation #4) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:13 am

ok

VOTE: sven

this works too

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #27 (isolation #5) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:20 am

Why the actual fuck would scum NK a miller?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #29 (isolation #6) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:21 am

oh yeah and for post 25

My vote is now serious

I mean, I don't mind the miller claim. But I do mind the feigned innocence of "oh deary me of course scum would never fakeclaim a miller!" You know why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Your grandmother knows why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Why would you be dishonest like that?

I mean, come on. We're good players here. Don't insult our intelligence.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #30 (isolation #7) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:23 am

In post 28, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 26, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why would a miller ever be killed?
well, since i have claimed you have to make a decision, i am either miller town or scum.

if people belive me i will not get heat

scum kills people that get no heat

also i am very good at catching scum

Hi I am VT.

I'm now conftown because I can use the same reasoning to justify why scum me would never fakeclaim VT.

Why are you dealing in absolutes?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #37 (isolation #8) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:32 am

In post 31, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 27, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why the actual fuck would scum NK a miller?
your logic involves scum hoping that the cop will investigate me and find guilty... which I, by claiming miller, have allready confirmed will happen.

there is 0 times out of 100 that a cop will get something else then guilty on me.

i am either scum lying, or miller telling the truth.

orc, i dont know what you mean by dealing in absolutes. i hate my role and if investigated i will die... so i thought i would insta claim

i can claim flavor too if that helps

Fuck what?

Why would millers ever be investigated after claim

My logic is that there is obviously a scum motivation behind a fakeclaim. And that is to ward off investigative results. Why haven't you been considering that?

You dealt in absolutes with regards to how you think you would be perceived by town. It's retarded to assume that "oh yeah town will either think i'm town or think i'm scum. If they think i'm scum, i'm lynched. If they think i'm town, then it's suspicious when i get to endgame"

I mean, I don't even know where to start in explaining how that doesn't work.

In post 32, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 29, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:oh yeah and for post 25

My vote is now serious

I mean, I don't mind the miller claim. But I do mind the feigned innocence of "oh deary me of course scum would never fakeclaim a miller!" You know why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Your grandmother knows why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Why would you be dishonest like that?

I mean, come on. We're good players here. Don't insult our intelligence.

your intelligence is abscent and if town you are nothing but noise.

sit down and take it slowly, i dont like being pushed against a wall.

Out rolls the Svensults. Why don't you vote me?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #38 (isolation #9) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:33 am

In post 35, TiphaineDeath wrote:
Vote 2
I can't actually type your name, too small X_X.

Hi vote sven

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #44 (isolation #10) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:38 am

In post 40, ² wrote:svenskt why no entrance gif?

- f

Too preoccupied with fabricating the fakeclaim.

Gut read on sven?

Pedit: Oh. >.>

Pedit: let me post

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #46 (isolation #11) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:39 am

In post 45, GuyInFreezer wrote:I also see Sven as town at this moment.

Why is my read on Sven always not shared by people

Can you explain this

Because literally nothing he has said has been ringing town to me

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #57 (isolation #12) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:44 am

In post 47, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sven, it surprises me that your posting is so incredibly weak because I expected you to be someone to liked aggression, meaning you could handle a bit of heat. But now I see I have to treat you like a emotionally distressed newbie...

Remind me to come back to this in like three pages.

In post 48, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 46, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Can you explain this
Gut.

Thanks.

² wrote:
In post 44, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 40, ² wrote:svenskt why no entrance gif?

- f
Too preoccupied with fabricating the fakeclaim.

Gut read on sven?

Pedit: Oh. >.>

Pedit: let me post
no, I'm leaning a little townish on svenskt.

- f

adhibnlkd

Okay so by the amount of crossposting Nacho and I did I'm assuming he's town.

Fery always townreads me and avoids RVS so I'm not getting anything out of her. However, if Sven ever does flip scum on a town-read from Fery, I'm looking at a lynch going that direction. I respect you too much as a town-player.

Let's talk about Metal Sonic. He hasn't replied to or even acknowledged my RVS push. Wonder why?

VOTE: Metal Sonic

Hi guys some help here

Pedit: holy shit avalanche

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #58 (isolation #13) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:45 am

In post 53, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 46, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why is my read on Sven always not shared by people
I'm right here with you but I think it's better if we give him his space to get into some sort of groove.

In post 47, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sven, it surprises me that your posting is so incredibly weak because I expected you to be someone to liked aggression, meaning you could handle a bit of heat. But now I see I have to treat you like a emotionally distressed newbie...

Actually I was going to bring this up later but now seems like an apt time. If you wanted to give Sven space to get into his groove, why does it seem like you were trying to provoke him in 47?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #64 (isolation #14) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:49 am

In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.

Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.

There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in

A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.

Why are you not considering maybe

C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^

Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #68 (isolation #15) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:52 am

In post 60, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 58, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Actually I was going to bring this up later but now seems like an apt time. If you wanted to give Sven space to get into his groove, why does it seem like you were trying to provoke him in 47?
I completely wanted to provoke him. Then he gave me a response that was far more meek than I was expecting regardless of alignment, so I backed the fuck off.

I like you.

In post 63, ² wrote:
In post 57, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Fery always townreads me and avoids RVS so I'm not getting anything out of her. However, if Sven ever does flip scum on a town-read from Fery, I'm looking at a lynch going that direction. I respect you too much as a town-player.
If he's scum, I doubt my town read will last. If he's town it may not last. I helped get him lynched in a recent game after townreading him earlier. worst town game I've played in a long time.

- f

I'm fine with lynching Sven sometime soon. jsyk.

But I understand. It's the same reason I pushed for a mislynch on marangal in Poetic. I'm only going to throw suspicion at you if Sven flips scum while you're townreading him.

Please don't let that influence your read.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #70 (isolation #16) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:54 am

In post 67, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
It's stupid, but it's not an uncommon defense for town.

I was referring to below post mostly.

In post 52, TiphaineDeath wrote:Wait, you wanted me to read on the first day? Bah.

I think
vote Nacho
is better really.

Fakeclaiming miller is a moronic and dangerous gambit that I have never actually seen a scum use, and that's in like 20+ games.

And since I'm assuming you're saying it's not a uncommon

self

-defense for millers...

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #72 (isolation #17) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:56 am

In post 69, Cabd wrote:
In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.

There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in

A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.

Why are you not considering maybe

C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^

Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists. I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...

VOTE: sven

Hm.

This makes me think of AP's setup in BSG a bit, having a town rolecop in the game to validate the miller...

Cabd let's assume Sven town. Who's scum, most likely?

Pedit: When you make a post that isn't answered by yourself, tell me and I'll happily reply.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #73 (isolation #18) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:57 am

Although I have to admit, if Sven is scum he's playing this beautifully with the thought narration and inner monologue and stuff.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #81 (isolation #19) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:01 am

In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

Just throw a name out there. Tentatively, we know we only have 4 pages and only one major event, it's okay. Give me a name of one possible scum if Sven is town.

In post 77, ² wrote:
In post 65, Svenskt Stål wrote:
is this scum buddying up to the great svenskt?
calibration.

- f

It's really weird but based on our hydra interaction I feel like this post makes me want to town read you.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #85 (isolation #20) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:03 am

In post 80, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 73, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Although I have to admit, if Sven is scum he's playing this beautifully with the thought narration and inner monologue and stuff.

see now i wish i was scum.

how would you have played it thou? wouldnt you have hated if you started getting attached to the game and someone investigates you and you will try to explain? i really did not want that. would you have been quiet?

I'm typically obvtown enough to attract nightkills rather than investigations in games with people I know. I probably wouldn't have claimed and just relied on towncred to get me through.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #86 (isolation #21) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:04 am

In post 79, GuyInFreezer wrote:I don't like Cabd's #76 pairing with his previous post.

P-Edit: ninja'd(?)

In post 78, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.
Is that what you're doing?

You people do realize he was responding to a hypothetical question of mine where I asked him to entertain sven-town right?

In post 83, GuyInFreezer wrote:anyway

UNVOTE:

Do something.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #87 (isolation #22) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:05 am

In post 72, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Cabd let's assume Sven town. Who's scum, most likely?

Here it is.

I don't like GiF's casual mud-slinging on Cabd for a false reason and his general removal from the hot topics.

VOTE: GiF

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #92 (isolation #23) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:14 am

In post 88, GuyInFreezer wrote:I was gonna ask "what false-reason" and I saw this post ↓

In post 86, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You people do realize he was responding to a hypothetical question of mine where I asked him to entertain sven-town right?
No I didn't.

Also if you're talking about Sven thing as "hot topic," I have you and Sven as town so I really don't find anything to comment atm.

Okay.

I'll leave my vote on you until I see something pro-town though.

Good night all. Finals tomorrow.

Oh yeah. Cabd town

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #103 (isolation #24) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:30 am

In post 102, Cabd wrote:
In post 101, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 98, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Sven
because i claim to be in a meeting?
Right, so the meeting only allows you to make tiny posts with no content, gotcha.

nvm about that town read

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #105 (isolation #25) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:32 am

In post 100, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 99, TiphaineDeath wrote:Huh, interesting.
Elaborate on this plz.

Yes please.

Cabd was looking town riiiight up until 102.

I'm starting to see Sven town.

Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven

UNVOTE: really really going now asogih34oin

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #108 (isolation #26) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:35 am

*Sorry, I'm starting to see GiF town. Thought typo.

I'll just go ahead and go back to VOTE: Metal Sonic and I hope I wake up to a wagon on him.

Pedit: Oh okay. So sort of like Buld hating on people who use "I have a life" as a dodge-reason.

Eh. Bad town =/= scum I guess.

I think most of us are town here.

GOOD NIGHT.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #117 (isolation #27) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:00 am

In post 114, BROseidon wrote:
In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
Why is this stupid? If it's generally true that miller claims on day one are legit, then we should not lynch Sven, right?

In post 112, Nachomamma8 wrote:[quote="In =
Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Why are Cadb and GiF town as fuck, and what does a "boring" vote even mean?

I'll buy Sven's miller claim for now. The miller claim early is super risky for scum, and for the miller it's a reasonable choice to make (I've day one claimed miller on the other site where I play, and it's standard there for millers to claim day one there). I don't think the fact that Nacho and Orc were so aggressive in questioning the claim makes them either town or scum (on the other site where I play it tends to be both that attack D1 miller claims), but I like the way in which both of them did it. Thinking both are town. Unsure about the rest.

Don't agree with 76 though. I don't think that everyone who chimed in on the miller claim is auto-town, and now that that post has been made it is definitely not an assumption we can make.

Is the fence leaving an imprint on your butt yet

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #118 (isolation #28) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:03 am

It's stupid because "oh because he doesn't have a meta of fake claiming miller so this miller claim must be real!" makes a surprising amount of nonsense. Sven's meta wrt miller claims shouldn't be considered when evaluating it.

What are your opinions on cabd and GiF?

Do you have a scumread?

Why is everyone jumping on Cabd for his answers to my questions and ignoring the fact that they are, in fact, ANSWERS. To MY questions.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #119 (isolation #29) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:03 am

Here. Have a cookie.

VOTE: BRO

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #122 (isolation #30) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:05 am

Why would you ask me the first question now?
Because fery is town reading sven

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #124 (isolation #31) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:10 am

You see obvtown on him?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #126 (isolation #32) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:12 am

In post 124, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You see obvtown on him?

(Just in case it wasn't clear I sort of want you to explain this)

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #129 (isolation #33) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:29 am

Can somebody just claim scum already this is getting ridiculous

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #133 (isolation #34) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:39 am

So

Nacho is town
Cabd is town
GiF is probably town
Fery is probably town, meaning Sven is also probably town
BRO is probably town

This is the second most depressing type of list there is, right behind all scum.

Maybe we should go policy rach or something.

What the fuck why am I not sleepy

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #135 (isolation #35) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:43 am

Have you been reading his posts

He is a model citizen

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #141 (isolation #36) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:48 am

In post 136, Varsoon wrote:I'll claim town,
hey guys.

If you pull a dozen half assed 'reaction tests' again

I will make sure you are today's lynch

I do not give a shit about meta

I am not kidding

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #143 (isolation #37) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:50 am

In post 140, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 137, Svenskt Stål wrote:@orc, no... we have to disagree there, also think you are too loose on you ffer read which i think should be null.
ffery is town as shit.
i just don't trust her read on you as much as orc does.

I sheeped fery on her Sven read in bork game and it was the best decision of my life

Okay it wasn't.

I actually have a life.

But it was still a good decision

Pedit: what is that last line I mean what is it

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #153 (isolation #38) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:59 am

Fery has always given me a "in development" tag vibe on all her reads.

Or maybe it's just me.

But I think if Fery's read is truly in development she doesn't like to voice them at all.

I mean, after calibration, "seems townish" is at least to me a decently solidified read

Unless someone in 2 wants to correct me

But yeah I don't want to lynch Sven before fery gets a better read on him

Hmm could this be scum Sven trying to whittle down the number of obvtown players?

FUDE I CAN'T POST

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #158 (isolation #39) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:03 am

In post 35, TiphaineDeath wrote:
Vote 2
I can't actually type your name, too small X_X.

In post 52, TiphaineDeath wrote:Wait, you wanted me to read on the first day? Bah.

I think
vote Nacho
is better really.

Fakeclaiming miller is a moronic and dangerous gambit that I have never actually seen a scum use, and that's in like 20+ games.

In post 99, TiphaineDeath wrote:Huh, interesting.

unvote

How about a vote here

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #159 (isolation #40) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:04 am

In post 157, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 155, ² wrote:Nacho, I was going to ask buldermar if he knows, but he's not around. Why is MS an easy lynch?

- f
His thought process is weird, he doesn't have a voice of authority, hard for people to connect to. In this game, he was a scumread that orc, -->town leader<--, has played around with for a while.

How ya doin sven

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #367 (isolation #41) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:14 pm

In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?

- f

I've learned my lesson re Sven. But I see where you're coming from

Good morning

Quick skim. Don't like varsoon as usual. TD is shit. Cabd town read got questioned--ill see if I can get to it, phone posting cases doesn't work very well.

Glad to see more people posting. Hi mollie

VOTE: TD

Sheep

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #368 (isolation #42) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:16 pm

Oh yeah and I didn't like Andrius' entrance

Discuss

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #370 (isolation #43) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:18 pm

In post 369, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 368, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh yeah and I didn't like Andrius' entrance

Discuss
If you touch him, I'll crush you.

Back

Away

No sudden movements

My hands are up

Can we talk civilly

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #373 (isolation #44) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:24 pm

Can't quote specifics but:

Regurgitated reasoning re Sven that is disguised

Dislike hatin on BRO because he has no scumreads I mean nobody really did at that point in time

Last sentence of 175 sounds like grasping at really silly straws

Flip on BRO read seems natural but that's it

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #379 (isolation #45) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:26 pm

Congrats rach!

So are you suspecting Sven or not

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #381 (isolation #46) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:30 pm

Id like majiffy to post soon

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #387 (isolation #47) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:38 pm

In post 385, ² wrote:
In post 375, borkjerfkin wrote:[4] Svenskt Stål (Cabd, Nachomamma8, GuyInFreezer, TiphaineDeath)
Shouldn't we at least postpone lynching him? If he's town (which I still think he is), we essentially have a tracker that can't be nk'ed (and if he is we saved ourself a lynch).

- b

Yeah but if he's a scum PR...

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #392 (isolation #48) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:41 pm

In post 356, dntfkingcare wrote: I'm more active after D1. You can call it scummy, I'll call it a learning curve.

I've seen this in two ongoing games now and I don't know what to make of it.

Hi guys help me out

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #396 (isolation #49) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:43 pm

...

Well, no. Faking results to be seen as a town PR exists.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #397 (isolation #50) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:44 pm

In post 394, ² wrote:
In post 381, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Id like majiffy to post soon
Me too. I miss trashtalking.

- b

You know your two hydras mesh perfectly

Mollie and fery, you and majiffy...

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #405 (isolation #51) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:49 pm

In post 268, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 265, Cabd wrote:
In post 169, Cabd wrote:Is there some past history about policying rach that I'm not aware of?
For him, maybe. I don't vote Rach unless I think she's scum.

Rach sits on her hands and cheers from the sidelines and does nothing

Also claims early as town

I only ever end up working out Rach's alignment by PoE

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #412 (isolation #52) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:53 pm

Wait do why is Cabd scum

I really liked his interaction with me and I felt like his willingness to answer questions was townie

He wasn't taking a sit back from the Sven ordeal?

Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhere

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #414 (isolation #53) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:55 pm

Why would any sane scum NK sven

Pedit: what's your read on Sven exactly

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #418 (isolation #54) » Tue May 21, 2013 12:58 pm

In post 417, ² wrote:
In post 412, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Wait do why is Cabd scum

I really liked his interaction with me and I felt like his willingness to answer questions was townie

He wasn't taking a sit back from the Sven ordeal?

Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhere
I don't think we're decided on cabd being scum. I'm not, anyway. I think I trust Nacho's impression over svenskt's.

- f

WHAT ABOUT MY IMPRESSION

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #424 (isolation #55) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:07 pm

Let the love spread

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #427 (isolation #56) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:10 pm

In post 425, Cabd wrote:So uh... Where the hell did sven go even?

I'm not sure. I still think him odd.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #428 (isolation #57) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:10 pm

Are you tunneling

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #436 (isolation #58) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:17 pm

VOTE: TMTOLBTWNTOF

432: So can you answer my question re tunnelling (yes that was to you). Also, you know this is why I wanted to policy her right

Read slipping

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #439 (isolation #59) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:20 pm

You realize that Cabd has been tunneling sven for the entire game right. I don't like him calling out sven for being /asleep/

And when I call him out he shoots rach some mud, despite him asking me earlier why I would want to policy rach

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #442 (isolation #60) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:22 pm

In post 441, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:VOTE: sven

nacho with that exchange with sven and fery is when I lost my town read on fery. up until then she was doing pretty good I think she made it to p8, lol. buldey has said a couple of things that I like but he has said some things that I don't like too.

Wait wait

what

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #443 (isolation #61) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:22 pm

fery is scum?

Okay I haven't been reading close enough

I thought you resolved your issues over sven/fery interaction

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #445 (isolation #62) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:24 pm

In post 444, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 441, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:VOTE: sven

nacho with that exchange with sven and fery is when I lost my town read on fery. up until then she was doing pretty good I think she made it to p8, lol. buldey has said a couple of things that I like but he has said some things that I don't like too.
good, good.

no, not good

she's scumreading fery???

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #448 (isolation #63) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:28 pm

Wait I don't understand

Where is this read coming from, mollie, I can't find your post

I mean on one hand I feel like mollie would be able to read fery well (295) but

Wait I don't understand, why?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #449 (isolation #64) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:29 pm

people you need to talk to me!!!

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #452 (isolation #65) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:32 pm

MOLLIE

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #458 (isolation #66) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:39 pm

In post 454, ² wrote:also, if you had a genuine scum read on me you'd be screeching from the rafters right now, not voting someone else.

- f

Yes I can agree with this but

mollie goddamnit you need to explain your read you can't just say "oh yeah I have a scumread on one of the best players in this game bye" and LEAVE.

COME BACK.

Pedit: Oh jeez.

Pedit: Nacho, what do you make of this

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #462 (isolation #67) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:41 pm

Do you think it's scum/town in the two hydras then

Pedit well that answers it

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #468 (isolation #68) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:45 pm

In post 466, ² wrote:
In post 460, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 458, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Pedit: Nacho, what do you make of this
I can read mollie better than I can read ffery.
This sure as hell isn't mollie's scum play
.
Then what is it when she scumreads me and votes someone else?

If she's done that before I cant remember it.

This is how we caught someone in one of our hydras but I can't remember the name right now

Or was it Mac in Poetic that I'm thinking of?

PEdit: wait yeah so what's mollie's read on fery exactly

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #470 (isolation #69) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:47 pm

For some reason Nacho you see fery as a lot more assertive than I do

Wait

So I'm slow and it's early can you just tell me what you two think fery is

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #476 (isolation #70) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:52 pm

In post 474, ² wrote:
In post 471, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 466, ² wrote:
In post 460, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 458, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Pedit: Nacho, what do you make of this
I can read mollie better than I can read ffery.
This sure as hell isn't mollie's scum play
.
Then what is it when she scumreads me and votes someone else?

If she's done that before I cant remember it.
I don't know where she said that you were scum, only that she was suspicious of you. As scum, how does she usually interact with you?
Last time she was scum, she decided to try getting me lynched on day 1. That was the game where I spotted the whole scum team on day 1.

I don't like this defense

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #486 (isolation #71) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:57 pm

Wait so why are you lynching sven

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #490 (isolation #72) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:58 pm

I mean if you're scumreading fery then you should be lynching fery

Because both town and scum fery would be townreading sven

If you're scumreading fery what you should do is lynch fery, and if she flips town we have basically conftowns in her townreads

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #494 (isolation #73) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:03 pm

I also feel like fery saying "Buld can move this vote" was more courtesy than anything

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #500 (isolation #74) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:14 pm

BSG deja vu

So mollie you think lynching 2 d1 is a good idea or at least an idea worth bouncing around

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #503 (isolation #75) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:15 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26883

Buld v Fery on d1

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #509 (isolation #76) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:21 pm

In post 505, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 503, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26883

Buld v Fery on d1
If ffery initiated, she was the town one and buld was probably scum.

Buld initiated and was scum. Fery got so frustrated she self-hammered.

I find that it's easy for other people to push fery's buttons (no offense)

I don't think lynching 2 today is a good choice.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #514 (isolation #77) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:27 pm

Nacho do you want to compare T->S lists

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #521 (isolation #78) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:31 pm

All right then. I get where both sides are coming from, I just don't think that we should be lynching within the four of us today or right now.

Maybe when D1 is halfway done, maybe I'd consider supporting a lynch on fery or mollie (probably the former). But as it stands, we're 10 hours into the thread and I don't think this argument will be productive.

God I feel like rach right now

wait fuck

I'm being rach.

VOTE: orcinus

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #524 (isolation #79) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:33 pm

In post 517, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 514, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Nacho do you want to compare T->S lists
hold on. i'm going to go to BSG, i'm going to read ffery's emotional progression there

This is a good idea

I think the two games are comparable

And I think fery's reaction makes me think town

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #528 (isolation #80) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:38 pm

In post 523, Nachomamma8 wrote:orc quit being a drama queen

9.9

I'M the drama queen?

UNVOTE:

Pedit: I know not of what stupid trolleytracks I get on

Pedit: Okay this is a case I can deal with. Give me a second to read through the relevant thread bits

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #533 (isolation #81) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:45 pm

In post 531, RachMarie wrote:my head hurts

get that self vote off of you orc and stop that nonsense... There can one be ONE Rach and thats me and I almost never self vote so yeah

Fery why are you so sure that Sven is town?

Pedit good you unvoted

It's okay mine does too

What's your opinion on mollie v fery?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #537 (isolation #82) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:48 pm

Now tell me who's scummy

Aj

Or Varsoon, the guy who sheeped him

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #542 (isolation #83) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:51 pm

In post 540, Nachomamma8 wrote:Also orc, ff initiated, buldermar OMGUS'ed.

Not really

I initiated with fery, we back-and-forth'd for a while, and then buldermar hopped onto my side and I jumped off.

Fery I think leaned town on buld for the large majority of the argument.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #549 (isolation #84) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:58 pm

In post 544, Nachomamma8 wrote:#254, then she started waffling on her reads because she got overloaded.

What the fuck is wrong with my posting today

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #555 (isolation #85) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:08 pm

In post 554, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:what I don't like is how sticky she is trying to be with her fos on me on when she should be town reading me at this point.

This I can agree with. Town-Fery townreads me even when I misread her.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #556 (isolation #86) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:09 pm

And to me, mollie and nacho are pretty obvtown right now

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #564 (isolation #87) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:21 pm

Hey Majiffy you're finally town.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #571 (isolation #88) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:33 pm

I've heard good things about your townplay majiffy you should show it to me

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #574 (isolation #89) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:36 pm

In post 117, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Is the fence leaving an imprint on your butt yet

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #578 (isolation #90) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:41 pm

In post 575, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 574, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 117, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Is the fence leaving an imprint on your butt yet
she's town, stop

How do you read rach?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #607 (isolation #91) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:49 pm

In post 601, Nachomamma8 wrote:Orc.

And proud of it

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #610 (isolation #92) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:49 pm

In post 606, Nachomamma8 wrote:Honestly, if there was one person I would kill without giving a chance to speak, it would be him. I'm pretty fucking sure that he's scum. Not as sure as 2, but pretty fucking sure.

2 posts

You're not that good are you

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #612 (isolation #93) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:51 pm

In post 609, Nachomamma8 wrote:orc, what's you T/S list looking like?

Exams, be back in 2 hours

Our biggest differences lie in varsoon, TD, and andrius (off the top of my head)

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #667 (isolation #94) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:22 pm

In post 663, TiphaineDeath wrote:27 pages...
1 day...
Everyone hates me...
Don't you people have lives?
I'm sorry but I really don't have time to read all this tonight, I'll figure it out tomorrow.

VOTE: TD

Nacho you're like. Wrong.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #668 (isolation #95) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:23 pm

In post 624, GuyInFreezer wrote:For some reason I feel like I'm invisible every time I'm playing mafia. :T
What do?

Do something productive

Yelling works

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #669 (isolation #96) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:31 pm

In post 621, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 610, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 606, Nachomamma8 wrote:Honestly, if there was one person I would kill without giving a chance to speak, it would be him. I'm pretty fucking sure that he's scum. Not as sure as 2, but pretty fucking sure.
2 posts

You're not that good are you
yes he is

he is orienting himself around his reads

he is pushing people out while drawing in his townreads

he is laying the groundwork for a town wc

if he is scum then jesus christ

orc do you have any thoughts on aj

I never called Nacho scum, I just don't buy his reads on TMT and TD. Varsoon maybe I can live with.

Let me look at aj.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #671 (isolation #97) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:41 pm

Sticking him into null lean scum at a casual glance. I like his TD vote, but tunneling and avoidance of the Big Issues (the giant fucking townbloc, mollie v fery) is not good though. I don't like the comment on sven (tracker isn't really always a maf role, I don't see why the role doesn't make sense), and he seems to be consciously flying under the radar.

I would appreciate Andrius, Sajin, BRO, Mac posting more because they're all on Nacho's town list and I can maybe agree with him but they're not posting enough.

Pedit: I have a null read on TMT what the fuck why are people supposed to be giving reads on TMT I do not understand this. I have a scumread on TD though and you should be voting with me there.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #672 (isolation #98) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:44 pm

Oh uh Andrius needs to post more because apparenlty my read on him is out of sync with everyone else's

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #674 (isolation #99) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:51 pm

Oh right. T->S that Nacho wanted

Town:

Beauty&Beast, Nacho

2, Sven (conditional on 2's alignment),

Cabd, GiF, Rach (Majiffy and Nacho's reads)

Lean town:

BRO, Cabd, dntfkingcare, ghostlin, Mac, Sajin

Null: Jon, MS, TMT

Lean scum: Andrius, Aj, Varsoon

Scum: TD

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #677 (isolation #100) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:07 pm

Look at that

Look at that

Do you know what you're looking at (hint: it's scum)

You do realize that you sheeped Aj onto TD while I asked for people to sheep me onto TD and there's a difference there and I don't even know why you're comparing the two votes

I'm not the biggest poster in the thread, there are five people (two hydras) who have been very active, that's not a reason to vote me

You said nothing about said "voting patterns and inconsistencies" that make you want to vote me. So please do

Also explain this townboss thing because I don't quite understand it. My reads have been in the minority all day.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #679 (isolation #101) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:14 pm

In post 675, Varsoon wrote:Orc's voting patterns and inconsistencies really make me want to see Orc as a D1 lynch

You're answering this right now because it looks made up

VOTE: Varsoon

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #680 (isolation #102) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:14 pm

In post 678, Varsoon wrote:Orc, on the real, the biggest posters are you, 2, and Nacho. Nacho is largely reactionary and I like his content.
You and 2, though, not so much.
You're the vote I'd rather put down,
so I did.

This case.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #682 (isolation #103) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:38 pm

In post 210, Varsoon wrote:So, currently, the best flips in my mind are ones of incredibly active players/claimed roles.

Haha

In post 210, Varsoon wrote:Gonna sheep AJ here. I find scum tends to say things like "No town would X" and base their votes on that.

So you openly sheeped Aj

Okay

I find it laughable you're comparing our TD votes because that's not actually why I was suspicious of you. It was for the Aj sheep, not the TD vote. The two things are sort of different.

Also, tell me about your boundless mafia experience, since you said "I find scum tends to say things like X". I mean, that means you must be experienced, right?

In post 221, Varsoon wrote:
In post 213, Nachomamma8 wrote:Varsoon, what did you think of Sven's claim?
Honestly, I'll probably ignore the PR claim altogether when considering whether or not Sven is scum.
To me, claiming a town PR is the same as someone just saying "Hey, I am town," if a bit more lame since it hinges on some sort of town sympathy for PRs or something.
Generally, revealing PRs to the scum isn't a cool idea.
I don't know what the miller-tracker does. Please tell me.

P-EDIT:

Thanks, Sven.

That's a pretty damn convenient role to have if you're scum, and a shite one if you're town.
Regardless, I'm not going to think of you as miller-tracker, but as Sven, the maybe-town-guy.

...so not really, I take it?

Okay.

In post 223, Varsoon wrote:Hey, 2, let's leave other games out of this.

Why?

In post 236, Varsoon wrote:@GIF: I know it's okay to link, I'm just saying that I don't like meta. How a player was/what their role was in another game shouldn't be a defense for them in this game.
Their play should be a defense for them in this game.

You know it's the same person playing in those games right

But okay, Mr. Experienced.

Frankly I find Varsoon hilarious because of the whole "In my experience, this is what scum do and you should listen to me!" and "wait what's a miller"

In post 261, Varsoon wrote:I really like Sven's claim more and more now. It feels like a litmus test for town/scum.

What the what

How so

If it's a test for town/scum then what have you learned

You know that it wasn't a reaction test, right?

In post 675, Varsoon wrote:@Sajin: You're probably scum, since you can't figure out anything from what I've posted so far and you're so quick to dismiss me as a useless fluffer of radio noise or whatever wiki-able word you're using this time. You've also been perched pretty conspicuously all game. Who remembers that Sajin is even in this game, off the top of their heads? Not I.
But, really, it makes me sad that you're so cruel, since I can only read you as a town jerk or scum trying to suffocate a weaker voice.

Can't you just be honest about your OMGUSing?

In post 678, Varsoon wrote:Townboss? ISO yourself and look at how you've been posting. You're so "I know this because I am bossu"

why the actual fuck is this scummy?

And you know that I've been sheeping nacho, fery, and B&B a lot today right

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #689 (isolation #104) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:11 pm

Can you go look up miller on the wiki I think it would help you a lot

That being said you're probably incredibly obtuse town.

You can just like. Sit there.

But if you want a response:

I find RVS cases on me on page 28 hilarious

-me giving people reads isn't dealing in absolutes right
-re:119 nobody had a scumread so yes we were back to RVS
-141 it's okay i didn't really have fun with you last time. See, I don't mind confidence. I mind confidence when you have nothing to be confident about.
-Metal Sonic vote: yes that makes me scum good job
-tossing around votes: you played with me before, haven't you?
And jsyk nobody's stayed with a wagon in this game, have you been reading

Yes, us posting less would help the fact that we have a bunch of lurkers

(not to mention that you listed feryllt in there...)

Questions:

No, but you're basing your lynch methods behind experience when

you have none

.

I don't like miller meta defenses. That's...not really the same.

Anyone decently experienced in mafia knows what a miller is

AtE harder I don't really buy it

You /need/ to go look up what a miller actually is

I never said OMGUS was scummy? I just don't want you to disguise it in faked reasoning

Does my confidence make you nervous?

I'd like to see you be better.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #690 (isolation #105) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:15 pm

In post 684, Varsoon wrote:Ultimately, your play-style has been loud, but without substance. Your defenses seem more like backpedaling rather than standing your ground. The average user has posts about 10~20 times in this forum and you've made over 100 posts, and to what end?
You also support a really suffocating, elitist playstyle towards me, at the very least. I'd like to have a fun game with everyone in this thread, regardless of alignment, and it's pretty damn unfair how you've been towards me.
So, yeah, I hold a vote on you for personal reasons coupled with logical ones.
You're scum, through-and-through.

To the end where I have solid reads on all but three people in the playerlist

No, I don't really find it unfair

You can scumhunt. You can do whatever you want. Just don't use experience as a vote reason when you don't have enough to justify it.

It would be a bit like me saying (wrt miller claim) that miller claims are always town or scum by experience. It's stupid, because I don't have that experience.

So don't use phrases like "In my experience, scum does X" in your cases because it's just fabricated.

Glad to know i'm getting your panties in a knot. I don't really care? I mean I'm not too sure what you expect me to answer.

In post 687, Varsoon wrote:
In post 685, Mac wrote:I don't think I'm seeing Varsoon town atm. He seemed to have legit reasoning for voting TD, yet chalked it down to sheeping AJ. Just felt to me like he was shifting the blame.

However I'm also seeing a case for TD scum too so that's kinda fucking with my head a bit.

The "Sheeping AJ" was a flag for people to latch onto.
Any perceptive player would see that my reasons for voting for TD were solid enough of a basis for me to make that vote regardless of other votes on the player. The "I am Sheeping AJ" bit was an afterthought, as it's an accusation that less perceptive/scummy players would make of my vote.
However, TD hasn't posted much since then, and I'm uncomfortable with the wagon now. TD's still on my scum-list, don't worry about that. The guy has done nothing to keep me from seeing him as scum, I'd just rather pursue a wagon that'll produce something.

Make sure you tell me what this wagon produces!

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #693 (isolation #106) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:19 pm

In post 691, Mac wrote:I liked orc for town early on and think I still do. players like nacho, mollie & co are probably a lot better at reading him than I am but so far he's playing pretty similar to the poetic justice game that finished not long back. however I am unaware of his scum game as of yet so I'm not sure how comparable his town game is to his scum game.

that said, your attack is pretty brave since he's been townread by alot of players so far. does that make you town? possibly, it's very putting-yourself-out-there and it's not something I'd expect from scum. however I don't know your scum game. do you have any completed scum games I can take a look at?

I've never rolled scum.

I will one day.

In post 692, Svenskt Stål wrote:and they calll me a spammer

VOTE: ghostlin

Why, exactly? He seems town.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #696 (isolation #107) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:22 pm

In post 682, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:If it's a test for town/scum then what have you learned

Varsoon

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #699 (isolation #108) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:23 pm

In post 687, Varsoon wrote:The "Sheeping AJ" was a flag for people to latch onto.

OKAY FUCK NO.

In post 141, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 136, Varsoon wrote:I'll claim town,
hey guys.
If you pull a dozen half assed 'reaction tests' again

I will make sure you are today's lynch

I do not give a shit about meta

I am not kidding

VOTE: Varsoon

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #700 (isolation #109) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:24 pm

In post 697, Mac wrote:do you think Nacho/mollie and others who regularly play with you would be able to differentiate your town game from your scum game?

Well I wouldn't know

I hope not

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #702 (isolation #110) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:25 pm

In post 701, Svenskt Stål wrote:i would be suprised if varsoon was scum

i would be very suprised if orc was scum

so can we shift focus.

Do you see his explanation for the sheeping Aj remark

"I was trying to get a reaction"

and yet he doesn't bring it up until now?

Like

hello?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #705 (isolation #111) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:27 pm

Oh yeah Mac is town

Sven how do you not tell them apart?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #709 (isolation #112) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:33 pm

Oh yeah let me just explain my history with varsoon.

We played together in Selkies' first game, Borkgame. Varsoon and scum-Majiffy made cases on us, and Varsoon consistently deflected my responses to his case. When we called him out for some of his scummy actions, he said that they were reaction tests, and that he purposely did them so that he could determine alliances.

Now obviously this makes no sense. If you put something scummy in your post, you expect to be called out for it. It's retarded. In this game, if you put something scummy and off-color like "I'm sheeping Aj" in your post, you are going to be called out for it, by town and scum alike.

Varsoon was lynched d2 in borkgame. Which is why I made my 141.

In post 210, Varsoon wrote:
In post 141, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 136, Varsoon wrote:I'll claim town,
hey guys.
If you pull a dozen half assed 'reaction tests' again

I will make sure you are today's lynch

I do not give a shit about meta

I am not kidding
Oh, that's what I did in a different game. Don't worry so much about that, Orcinus. I'll be playing pretty regular town today with a bit of sleuthing if I find time for it.

So I find Varsoon's defense for "sheeping aj" scummy for the same reasons again. However, I would like to add to this that even AFTER varsoon said that he wouldn't do that shit again, he did.

So this is scum making excuses.

His case on me reminded me a bit of borkgame which was why I townread him for a bit but this is too much.

Happy wagoning.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #712 (isolation #113) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:35 pm

Mac, why haven't you replied to ghost's catchup given that he scumread you in it...?

Pedit: Not really. If I'm right and all four of me/nacho/moljiffy/2 are town, scum need to break that group or at least scumread some members of it

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #716 (isolation #114) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:39 pm

Varsoon wrote:
In post 710, Svenskt Stål wrote:i think the fact that varsoon goes up against you speaks in his favor.
My case is crap, don't worry about it.
I just wanna see what Orc has to say.

Guess Orc's town, given the responses. I don't wanna let up that easily, though, you know?

what

what

Sven you can really sheep me now

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #717 (isolation #115) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:40 pm

In post 713, Varsoon wrote:Orc, you're delightful, but that's the weakest attack you could have made on me. "It doesn't make any logical sense and he flipped town D2 in the other game!! Lynch him!"
Garsh, you know how to flatter a boy.

this is not what I said?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #722 (isolation #116) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:43 pm

Why would you /state/ that you're pressuring ghost? Pressure only comes when people think you

actually find them scummy.

grarghu

Varsoon wrote:
In post 717, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 713, Varsoon wrote:Orc, you're delightful, but that's the weakest attack you could have made on me. "It doesn't make any logical sense and he flipped town D2 in the other game!! Lynch him!"
Garsh, you know how to flatter a boy.
this is not what I said?
Oh, so it's okay for you to misrep people but when they do it to you, it's not so fun?

You get all red and stingy when people poke you, you know that?

So we learn a few things from this post

1). Deliberate misrep by Varsoon
2). Apparently I misrep people so why haven't you called me out for it?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #725 (isolation #117) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:43 pm

In post 721, Varsoon wrote:Seriously, though. Orc, stop posting a thousand times.
You can walk away from the phone/computer and do other things for awhile. Not every response needs to be responded to.
Calm your titties.

nah I'm in class

we can talk

aren't you happy about that?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #732 (isolation #118) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:48 pm

In post 714, Varsoon wrote:
In post 710, Svenskt Stål wrote:i think the fact that varsoon goes up against you speaks in his favor.
My case is crap, don't worry about it.
I just wanna see what Orc has to say.

Guess Orc's town, given the responses. I don't wanna let up that easily, though, you know?

In post 719, Varsoon wrote:
In post 715, Svenskt Stål wrote:varsoon, ghostlin is a good candidate for what? lynch? I am voting him so that should answer your question

edit, wtf varsoon

I'm a madman.

Honestly, I've got to make plays so that my wildcard reads can be put in scum or town buckets.

I think that ghost could be a good vote. Do you think our vote pressure would drive ghost to respond in interesting ways?
VOTE: Ghostlin

In post 721, Varsoon wrote:Seriously, though. Orc, stop posting a thousand times.
You can walk away from the phone/computer and do other things for awhile. Not every response needs to be responded to.
Calm your titties.

this looks like a scumflail

Do you see why

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #734 (isolation #119) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:50 pm

In post 731, BROseidon wrote:Oh, and meta is still a useful tool. You're opposition to it is baffling and seems scum-motivated. Scum start out with more information than town, town should be using every tool available to level the playing field. Meta analysis of players is one of those tools.

I use meta

When I say I think miller meta is bullshit, I was referring to miller meta

You know, the argument that was made earlier in the game that "Because somebody doesn't have a meta of fakeclaiming miller it's very likely that they're town"

Yeah

That argument

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #735 (isolation #120) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:51 pm

BRO, give me an opinion on mollie v fery, and on varsoon's alignment?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #736 (isolation #121) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:52 pm

And when I say varsoon, I mean ghostlin

I was looking at Varsoon's name when I was typing >.<

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #738 (isolation #122) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:56 pm

In post 737, Varsoon wrote:@Orc: Yeah, and you'd think I'd be more careful, if I was scum. Figure it out.

There's town WIFOM and scum WIFOM

This is not town WIFOM

orcinus_theoriginal · Tue May 21, 2013 10:00 pm

BRO can also be town.

Don't like the vote on TD over Varsoon though. Varsoon vote would be more constructive if you have equal levels of scumreads on them. But bad town=/=scum

Varsoon literally not one of your posts have ever pinged town to me this game. If you're town you really need to work on it.

orcinus_theoriginal · Tue May 21, 2013 10:05 pm

In post 742, Varsoon wrote:I'm convinced of Nacho/Orc/Sven/Andy as town. Less so of
GIF
and B&B.

In post 675, Varsoon wrote:Anyway, my current scum-reads are Orc, TD,
GIF
, and Sajin.

GIF's not nearly as active as I'd expect, and the plays so far have been the usual buddying with me, but not nearly as much pro-town content as I tend to see there. It's a weaker scum-read to be honest, but I want to see more out of GIF so I can be more sure about the alignment here.

Okay, I'm done babysitting the thread for now but Varsoon is seriously scum I swear it.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #760 (isolation #125) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:58 am

Fery. Vote varsoon with me?

Hi metal sonic nice to meet you. Are you going to vote someone?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #764 (isolation #126) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:00 am

In post 732, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 714, Varsoon wrote:
In post 710, Svenskt Stål wrote:i think the fact that varsoon goes up against you speaks in his favor.
My case is crap, don't worry about it.
I just wanna see what Orc has to say.

Guess Orc's town, given the responses. I don't wanna let up that easily, though, you know?

In post 719, Varsoon wrote:
In post 715, Svenskt Stål wrote:varsoon, ghostlin is a good candidate for what? lynch? I am voting him so that should answer your question

edit, wtf varsoon

I'm a madman.

Honestly, I've got to make plays so that my wildcard reads can be put in scum or town buckets.

I think that ghost could be a good vote. Do you think our vote pressure would drive ghost to respond in interesting ways?
VOTE: Ghostlin

In post 721, Varsoon wrote:Seriously, though. Orc, stop posting a thousand times.
You can walk away from the phone/computer and do other things for awhile. Not every response needs to be responded to.
Calm your titties.
this looks like a scumflail

Do you see why

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #765 (isolation #127) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:01 am

In post 763, ² wrote:
In post 760, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Fery. Vote varsoon with me?

Hi metal sonic nice to meet you. Are you going to vote someone?
I still need to talk with buldermar.

You seem to be a lot more guarded with your reads and thought processes this game

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #770 (isolation #128) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:35 am

I mean, normally what goes on through your head is really transparent and that's why I always ask you to post in select games for Selkies to gain towncred, because I feel like you're good at doing that. I just haven't been getting the same vibe this game. Through a skim of your posts in 2 in isolation, I see that all of your posts before buld's catchup were mostly one-word, mostly unjustified reads. No real scumhunting, the silly posts remind me a bit of that popcorn game that I stalked, no interaction with null reads, etc.

Ugh I don't know my read on you is getting weird.

BRO: Can you just vote Varsoon I don't understand why you're not doing so

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #771 (isolation #129) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:36 am

Because you have scumreads on Varsoon and TD, yet:

You vote TD when Varsoon is here

You seem to be pushing Varsoon harder than TD

What's up with that

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #776 (isolation #130) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:44 am

What reactions were worth gathering?

I mean, come on. Everything that happened was very much expected. I slammed Varsoon and voted him and built a case, people reinforced their townreads on me, what the hell was /supposed/ to happen?

Just like his disguise of the Aj sheep, the case on me is a failed act by scum that Varsoon is trying to disguise as a reaction test.

And you know my policy on reaction tests. If it's past RVS and you don't know what you're looking for or can't state what you found, you're scum for it.

Pedit: Not really no he isn't

Which wagon push do you think would yield more results?

Pedit: Hi

When did we play a game together, Aj? Because I don't remember you

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #780 (isolation #131) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:48 am

aowhgri tree stump?

you're evaluating my play using a DECEMBER game?

come on.

Pedit: I approve

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #782 (isolation #132) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:51 am

In post 774, Aj The Epic wrote:Orcinus is running in fucking circles at the moment. Varsoon is running in ovals. Varsoon was way too quick to back off his case for Orc, but even stranger is that Orc didn't hammer on Varsoon for completely disregarding orc after about 4 posts (even though he went through all that trouble for an incredibly long wall). Even worse, Orc backs off his own vote.

Um.

I don't understand this paragraph

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #784 (isolation #133) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:03 am

Do you know where my vote is now

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #785 (isolation #134) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:03 am

In post 783, Aj The Epic wrote:you should've kept on him for backing down. But you didn't.

I mean this is a

lie

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #786 (isolation #135) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:06 am

Also you have not played with me twice

And if you think you have a better grasp on my play from a december game than some of the other people in the thread...

Well I mean you're entitled to your opinion.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #794 (isolation #136) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:34 am

Because voting varsoon yields more results than voting TD?

And I feel like all the scum are piling onto TD which makes me nervous about him

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #799 (isolation #137) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:41 am

Metal sonic too

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #801 (isolation #138) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:43 am

In post 800, Mac wrote:
In post 794, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Because voting varsoon yields more results than voting TD?

And I feel like all the scum are piling onto TD which makes me nervous about him
I kinda get what you mean, but you asked which wagon push would yield more results in general. And BRO is voting Varsoon because 'he is here' and TD isn't. kinda feels like he's wanting to follow your lead a little.

BRO voted varsoon in response to my pointing out that a varsoon wagon was more productive, no?

I found his switch fairly natural

Talk to me about the wagon on TD though, I feel like we could figure something out here. Do you think he's town getting flak from scum as an easy lynch?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #808 (isolation #139) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:54 am

In post 806, GuyInFreezer wrote:Orc townreads you imo.

Orc said he thinks scums are piling on TD wagon.

Orc scumreads AJ/Varsoon/MS right now. (that's 3/4 votes on TD wagon.)

That's what I meant.

And no, I townread you.

Mhm

GuyInFreezer wrote:Hey Nacho. Varsoon is scum too.

just keep sheeping me and you'll be fine

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #823 (isolation #140) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:18 am

Can you reply to these posts

Unless you feel like varsoon's responses were adequate

In post 732, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 714, Varsoon wrote:
In post 710, Svenskt Stål wrote:i think the fact that varsoon goes up against you speaks in his favor.
My case is crap, don't worry about it.
I just wanna see what Orc has to say.

Guess Orc's town, given the responses. I don't wanna let up that easily, though, you know?

In post 719, Varsoon wrote:
In post 715, Svenskt Stål wrote:varsoon, ghostlin is a good candidate for what? lynch? I am voting him so that should answer your question

edit, wtf varsoon

I'm a madman.

Honestly, I've got to make plays so that my wildcard reads can be put in scum or town buckets.

I think that ghost could be a good vote. Do you think our vote pressure would drive ghost to respond in interesting ways?
VOTE: Ghostlin

In post 721, Varsoon wrote:Seriously, though. Orc, stop posting a thousand times.
You can walk away from the phone/computer and do other things for awhile. Not every response needs to be responded to.
Calm your titties.
this looks like a scumflail

Do you see why

In post 738, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 737, Varsoon wrote:@Orc: Yeah, and you'd think I'd be more careful, if I was scum. Figure it out.
There's town WIFOM and scum WIFOM

This is not town WIFOM

In post 744, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 742, Varsoon wrote:I'm convinced of Nacho/Orc/Sven/Andy as town. Less so of
GIF
and B&B.

In post 675, Varsoon wrote:Anyway, my current scum-reads are Orc, TD,
GIF
, and Sajin.

GIF's not nearly as active as I'd expect, and the plays so far have been the usual buddying with me, but not nearly as much pro-town content as I tend to see there. It's a weaker scum-read to be honest, but I want to see more out of GIF so I can be more sure about the alignment here.
Okay, I'm done babysitting the thread for now but Varsoon is seriously scum I swear it.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #824 (isolation #141) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:20 am

Re last quote: it's because there was no new info on GiF when he shifted his read that it's scummy

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #829 (isolation #142) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:29 am

In post 826, Nachomamma8 wrote:The only one of those I'm on your side with is the last one which is weird timing, but not a horrible switch considering the BRO reachout.

Um

We need to talk about these posts in depth because we are not seeing eye to eye

Can you explain the other two posts being not scummy

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #830 (isolation #143) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:30 am

In post 827, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 825, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 815, Nachomamma8 wrote:Tell me why Varsoon is scum.
Long story short, I think he's forcing his townmeta. I won't go to the detail until I have my one-on-one convo with him.
I don't think this is the case, but this is alright to sort out. I think some of the tells he's dropped are too hard for him to fake, though.

Specifics?

In post 828, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 822, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:nacho I am down with an aj lynch
let's get it then
i wanted to be townbuddies with him, but

I can do this too

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #836 (isolation #144) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:38 am

Ugh we're coming back to varsoon

VOTE: Aj

Re nacho: the first post is scum flail because we see that varsoon backs the fuck off me and says his case is shitty after building a pretense of being really really convinced of me being scum RIGHT when I build my case on him and Sven starts to buy it. He then says he wants to stick with a vote on me for a while (scum trying to make transition seem natural) but then disregards that and unvotes me in next post, contradicting himself. Then he tries to get me to stop scum reading him which supports my theory that the 180 on me was an effort to try and alleviate my read on him

But okay.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #840 (isolation #145) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:42 am

In post 839, ² wrote:Is there something I need to respond to before I start reading?

One wall

Just one

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #849 (isolation #146) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:48 am

Mollie, can you give me a quick rundown on where you stand on people?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #857 (isolation #147) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:02 am

In post 856, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:and buldey left out a huge response to the middle of his catch up yesterday, things I would think that he would respond to

This resonates with me if it's true because Buld did the same thing in BSG.

At least in Poetic he acknowledged them and said that he wasn't going to reply

Which things specifically?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #864 (isolation #148) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:14 am

In post 853, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I have you and nacho as solid town

thinking that way about mac and gif

varsoon is unsure. nacho is reading him as town

aj looks scummy

2 looks scummy

that is all I have right now

Sven..?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #866 (isolation #149) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:16 am

See the thing is you're drawing a Sven/fery connection

But in that case it makes more sense to lynch fery first because even if Sven flips town you'll still go after fery

On the other hand if fery flips town, we know Sven to be town. If fery flips scum? We know Sven to be scum.

Fery lynch makes much more sense from your perspective, shouldn't it?

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #868 (isolation #150) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:18 am

Oh right, 2 is scum reading TD too

Hmm

I wonder...

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #871 (isolation #151) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:24 am

In post 869, RachMarie wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=25373

Crazy Newbie Game the JK and I as the Doc (surprise surprise) made it a no kill zone like forevers lol

What are you doing?

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 12:14 pm

I will unleash high hell

To get this fucker varsoon lynched

Just look how inconsistent all his reads are

And oh my fucking lord this ghostlin push

Just

Nfkeood

GUYS

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 12:23 pm

/And varsoon has played with me before so why would he use that to incriminate me/

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 12:26 pm

In post 1074, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1068, Mac wrote:
In post 1064, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1062, GuyInFreezer wrote:K.
@V: what exactly of orc's "bossy play" irked you?

Stuff like the post above and when he makes posts like "Hey, guy who just entered thread, vote X with me."
Seemed like really confident scum playing town.
this is orc as a player in general.

p-edit yeah I got that.
I'm aware, was in another game with him and he was just as frustrating. I don't like basing my town-tells and scum-tells off of meta-experience, so I pushed Orc's buttons and he's pretty town for me in this game.

@GIF: I'm unsure if town would do that. S'why I had to mess with Orc in the ways I did. Like I said, he's confirmed himself to me as town by now.

This almost looks good

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 12:40 pm

In post 978, Varsoon wrote:Ghostlin, it's interesting that you include me in your scum-list based off of things 500 posts ago, rather than what is currently happening.

WAIT

BUT YOU DID

EXACTLY THIS

TO ME

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 12:51 pm

In post 1093, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1089, GuyInFreezer wrote:@V: in your post 678, you mentioned you not liking orc's and 2's post as much.
Why didn't you like their posts?
Lots of highly reactionary posting, didn't seem to be doing that much town work nearly as much as it was just general chatting.
Lots of space filled but not much action happening, if that makes sense.

Wait but

Your original posts on me told me to calm down and chill out, meaning I was too game oriented. You said I was a jerk for my game-heavy post on your entrance when you wanted to exchange pleasantries

So now you're suggesting I was chatting?

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 12:58 pm

Fery

I was wrong the first time

I will not disappoint you again

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 1:01 pm

I was wrong with regards to varsoon's alignment in bork game

But I'm not wrong this time

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 1:09 pm

In post 1108, GuyInFreezer wrote:Orc you won't like this

But I'm slowly leaning town on him again.

No

I didn't just read this

Redeem yourself

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 3:58 pm

Dayvig: Varsoon

Shut up

I take all responsibility for my actions

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 4:03 pm

I don't think you understand

You /die/ now, scum

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 4:25 pm

In post 1174, GuyInFreezer wrote:Well if varsoon is dying, my work has no fruit.

He's not but he needs to shut up

Unless he wants to humor me with his gambit so I can laugh at his idiocy

VOTE: Aj

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 4:31 pm

Okay

And since its not going to work can you shut up about it now

Pedit: because varsoon is an annoying shit and I want him to stop posting for just a few pages

And I'm pissed that he isn't scum

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 4:35 pm

"What's a miller and why are you p1 claiming a power role"

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 4:41 pm

In post 1187, Varsoon wrote:You're a sweetheart.

No one should be new at anything, ever. Otherwise, Orc will treat them like idiots and won't shut up about it for eons to come.

How about less /unfounded/ arrogance and "holy shit guys mafia is such a stupid game I broke it I can conftown someone with Ultimate Varsoon Gambit hahahahaha"

Rach I'm used to your play but the extent to which you're taking a back seat from the game is getting a bit ridiculous

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 4:42 pm

Like. Just go hunt scum normally.

No more gambits

No more reaction tests

Okay? THEY DON'T. WORK.

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 4:43 pm

Well I mean maybe use them when you get less new

But for now

No more

Please

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 8:10 pm

In post 1202, Aj The Epic wrote:Fire (with Nacho)

Ongoing game, do you read?

orcinus_theoriginal · Wed May 22, 2013 8:25 pm

Orc, since you seem to want to reiterate the point, or reemphasize your vote, I simply ask you what caught your eye. And trust me, I'm guessing nothing, because you are, ultimately, a reactionary emotional player. I probably just struck a nerve when I called your claim fake so easily, right?

And you say I don't know you. I've played a very recent game against you as part as a hydra, you were exactly the same.

Sure okay, whatever you think

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 3:18 am

In post 1219, ² wrote:
In post 1216, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 1207, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1202, Aj The Epic wrote:Fire (with Nacho)
stfu aj that game is still ongoing
Hydra is an account, not a game.
If the account is only in one game, and that game is ongoing, then talking about that hydra tantamounts to talking about an ongoing game.

- b

Do you feel like this deliberate obtuseness is scummy?

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 3:47 am

In post 1221, jon_h61 wrote:Catching up now.

I'll see you in a week

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 3:58 am

In post 1224, GuyInFreezer wrote:hey orc do u wanna MS wagon?

Why not stick on Aj?

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:00 am

In post 1227, GuyInFreezer wrote:MS is getting bit too lazy for my taste right now.
We have plenty of days so we can get to MS later and push one wagon on scum at a time because otherwise we just have chaos and disorder

there, finished that for you

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:53 am

In post 1231, ² wrote:That's all but conftown on the slot IMO.

- f

Why are you stealing my tells

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:53 am

Stop stealing my tells

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:54 am

Sven is conftown, joins GiF, Nacho, and B&B in my hardcore town pile

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 5:04 am

Sven did the same in borkgame and that's what convinced me of fery's townread on him

I had a reasoning post in that thread somewhere as to why his replace was townie

Although to be honest there is the minor difference of the ragequit vs what is probably an inactivity quit

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 5:21 am

In post 1241, Cabd wrote:I dunno, I still find it null. Otherwise, replacing out when under pressure would be a good way to "take on for the team".

Besides, I've seen scum replace out once pressure goes away and coast to endgame.

on this site?

can you link me?

As for where my tell is being based on, sotty in BSG, Sven in Borkgame (not counting DO because his was an force replace, though maybe bo would've counted), and DCL in poetic

These are all replacements that I identified at the time to be town replacements

On a second thought I don't know if this falls into that category or not

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 5:27 am

In post 1245, RachMarie wrote:hmm lemme check the games I replaced into a scum slot in Orc I probably could find one or two.

Site meta differs. I'd prefer onsite.

Rach, if they weren't inactivity boots then I'd like to see them

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 5:43 am

Okay so I'm about to go to sleep but 2 is really worrying me I'm reading them as town as Cabd and BRO and I feel like they should be higher if they were actually town

But anyways

Can more people talk about the Aj wagon I think we're like /this/ close to agreeing on something

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 5:51 am

In post 1254, RachMarie wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=23096 Here is one Agar asked to replace out and I replaced in I was the Mafia PR (Sleep Therapist), and then later Nacho replaced in and hard bussed me lol, then went on to win the game for us.

In post 1247, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: Rach, if they weren't inactivity boots then I'd like to see them

AGar was an inactivity boot

You can tell because his last post was "proddodge posting tomorrow"

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 5:56 am

cabd: I'll talk to you about Aj tomorrow but basically I'm sheeping his hydra buddy nacho

The Aj case was posted by either nacho or mollie one of the two I forget

I am SO tired

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 6:39 am

Your vote is on TD

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 12:11 pm

1270: looks faker than Heidi montag's boobs

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:00 pm

I dig above post

Except for nacho comment. Nacho is town

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:01 pm

His reads suck though

GiF and BRO are both town.

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:22 pm

Why are people taking my Dayvig seriously

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm

Also why are you thanking people for townreads

Shit.

Am I being rude?

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 4:30 pm

In post 1375, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Town
{
Nacho
,
2
,
GIF
,
Orci
,
Sven
, dfc,
AJ, Rach
, Ghostlin,
MetalSonic
}

Scum
{
Cabd
,
Tiphane
,
Mac
,
Varsoon, BROseidon
}

Updated.

Disagree with metal sonic, Aj, Varsoon, BRO, and Cabd

Do you want to talk about this

orcinus_theoriginal · Thu May 23, 2013 8:59 pm

In post 1411, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1408, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: 2

Andy is not scum.
I'll post more seriously here tomorrow.
okay

Why aren't you voting 2?

(Or are you, I haven't been keeping up)

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 12:14 am

In post 1416, TheReverend wrote:lol I've been here 5 minutes and already I figured out that jiffy uses caps and mollie doesn't, it's easy to figure out who's posting out of the two.

Oh god why do I join a game that has 57 pages on day 1? Someone motivate me please.

VOTE: Reverend

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 1:06 am

How bout this

You just sheep one of nacho, myself, or bb for your votes

It's okay because you're town

VOTE: Aj

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 12:39 pm

In post 1577, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ nacho & mac

what would you do if I told you that I was now 95% certain that 2 is scum and that aj is their scumbuddy? would you trust it?

VOTE: 2

I was recently reminded of how town fery seems on her town game

After due deliberation, I think Millie's right on this one

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 12:42 pm

Orc is unfortunately VLA until late Sunday

But how bout we talk for the next hour or so

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 12:47 pm

Oh wrt town block

You, BB, GiF, Mac, Cabd, BRO,

Problems with TD, and maybe we should cut it down to our six strongest. There's almost certainly scum in a block that big

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 12:48 pm

The problem with the game right now is we have too many town reads and scum might be playing a really good game

I mean, unless the game really is that simple but I don't think it is

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 12:52 pm

Oh yeah read your TD town case

I agree with it

But seriously I have town reads on too many people already I have to be wrong about something

I'm just stickin with my six strongest and moving everyone else back to null. I want to lynch 2 today, and see where that brings us. I think I was right to suspect 2 for not pinging my towndar hard enough.

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 12:55 pm

In post 1594, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1591, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Problems with TD, and maybe we should cut it down to our six strongest. There's almost certainly scum in a block that big
ok then find the scum in the block.
I've explained my townread on TD; where do you disagree?

I can't, that's the problem

I want to do a hard reset on all my reads because they all lean far too much to the town side

So that's what I'm doing

Sticking with nacho/BB/Cabd/BRO/Gif/Mac for now
I think this will be most conducive to my scumhunting

I need to start viewing some of my town reads with more skepticism and you do too

orcinus_theoriginal · Fri May 24, 2013 1:00 pm

In post 1601, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1600, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I need to start viewing some of my town reads with more skepticism and you do too
I've done more reading for this game then I've ever done in a game in my life.

I'm still not comfortable enough with a eleven person townbloc, sorry

I'm pretty sure those six (plus me seven) are town though, so can we start there and add people to the block as necessary