Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[Nachomamma8]

Also, I know you say he's "obv town", but you don't seem as convinced about him as you usually are with your very strong town reads. For instance, you usually don't ask me why I think someone is scum if you're already very convinced that he's not.

I'm pretty convinced on him.
I think you're confused on who he is because he's never voted me this game.

Sorry, I think you're right. I was talking to f about Tip looking scummy and for some reason got the two of them mixed when you asked me.

- b

So what's you're reasoning on Cabd?

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If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

Nacho, this is the post. I also commented on it previously, I'll find the posts.

- b

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If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

Is that what you're doing?

He's obviously doing the opposite. Who would have guessed.

- b

If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

Is that what you're doing?

Oh wow, Nacho, you've got me. I''m sitting back and taking no sides on this, I definitely didn't already vote for sven and voice an opinion.

Hey lookz... bingo, jackpot, I nailed it. Now what do I win?

- b

Nacho and orc, how do you read Cabd?

- b

And mollie/Majiffy too.

i wanna vote cabd

no meeting ended

This is pretty much how I feel currently - will read the remainder of this thread first, though.

- b

(You don't need to stop replying until I'm done because it may be a while)

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fery and I are probably going to fight

Please no.

- b

well I am liking some of what you are posting so far. her play

is

different in this game but she said in pj that she had already noticed that it was different so I was warned and I am not going to jump all over her for it. between the 2 hydras, nacho and orc, I think we can all sort each other out. my only thing with you is that I haven't actually gone up against you as scum before but I am tired of fighting with you too so I am only going to go there is nacho and majiffy scumread you.

if we are all town then this is like a dream come true

eta: congratulations rach!

I'm going to make you crazy in this game. I've wound up being the diplomatic one in all three of my hydra accounts.

- f

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Congratulations Rach!

[4] Svenskt Stål (Cabd, Nachomamma8, GuyInFreezer, TiphaineDeath)

Shouldn't we at least postpone lynching him? If he's town (which I still think he is), we essentially have a tracker that can't be nk'ed (and if he is we saved ourself a lynch).

- b

Why can't he be NK'd? I would've agreed if he'd just claimed miller but now he's added his other role too which makes him powerful if town.

@orc if he is a scum PR, he will be lynched eventually due to the miller claim no/

The point is that if he is NK'd then we saved ourself a lynch by not lynching him.

- b

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Is there some past history about policying rach that I'm not aware of?

For him, maybe. I don't vote Rach unless I think she's scum.

Rach sits on her hands and cheers from the sidelines and does nothing

Also claims early as town

I only ever end up working out Rach's alignment by PoE

[Nachomamma8]

Buldermar, is there a reason you think he is town if is the read ffery's?

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If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

Nacho, this is the post. I also commented on it previously, I'll find the posts.

- b

svenskt pointed up that post, too. iirc he thought it was awkward.

- f

[Nachomamma8]

Rach sits on her hands and cheers from the sidelines and does nothing

Also claims early as town

I only ever end up working out Rach's alignment by PoE

I fuck up the read occasionally, but it's not too difficult if I remember not to let her avoid me.

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Id like majiffy to post soon

Me too. I miss trashtalking.

- b

You know your two hydras mesh perfectly

Mollie and fery, you and majiffy...

Yes. It's like a dream come true.

- b

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huh I thought Miller just returned a Guilty to a cop investigation? I did not think it made them NK immune?

I doesn't make them nk immune. Maybe I didn't make myself clear, or maybe you misread, idk which.

- b

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Buldermar, is there a reason you think he is town if is the read ffery's?

Yes, but it's not that significant. I'll find the post.

- b

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Wait do why is Cabd scum

I really liked his interaction with me and I felt like his willingness to answer questions was townie

He wasn't taking a sit back from the Sven ordeal?

Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhere

[RachMarie]

[4] Svenskt Stål (Cabd, Nachomamma8, GuyInFreezer, TiphaineDeath)

Shouldn't we at least postpone lynching him? If he's town (which I still think he is), we essentially have

a tracker that can't be nk'ed

(and if he is we saved ourself a lynch).

- b

Here this sounded like you were saying NK immune.

If I misunderstood that please clarify thanks

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Why would any sane scum NK sven

Pedit: what's your read on Sven exactly

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Although I have to admit, if Sven is scum he's playing this beautifully with the thought narration and inner monologue and stuff.

see now i wish i was scum.

how would you have played it thou? wouldnt you have hated if you started getting attached to the game and someone investigates you and you will try to explain? i really did not want that. would you have been quiet?

This looks town to me.

- b

i wanna vote cabd

no meeting ended

This is pretty much how I feel currently - will read the remainder of this thread first, though.

- b

(You don't need to stop replying until I'm done because it may be a while)

no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.

Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.

There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in

A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.

Why are you not considering maybe

C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^


Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.

Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists. I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...

VOTE: sven

here it is.

i dont like it because he is rewording orc´s thoughts just because, or so it feels to me. and i never said gray didnt exist, i just assumed that i would either be lynched or nk and not live to long.

If sven is town,

mafia would be staying far away

from this entire thing, IMO.

Let us whip ourselves

into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.

This is odd aswell and just feels like he is getting a chance to "put himself" inside town and distancing from threat.
it lacks natural flow... cant precise it more then that

VOTE: cabd

I'm pretty sure steel is town. Firstly, this perfectly lines up with my thought. Secondly, if he was a scum making a miller gambit, I'd think he'd be more preoccupied contemplating what to do next and tunnel on self-meta stuff.

- b

I subsequently realized that I'm maybe not giving him enough credit, because you mentioned having played with him before where he was much better or something in the lines of that IIRC.

- b

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Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhere

I actually missed this the first time around.

- b

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Wait do why is Cabd scum

I really liked his interaction with me and I felt like his willingness to answer questions was townie

He wasn't taking a sit back from the Sven ordeal?

Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhere

I don't think we're decided on cabd being scum. I'm not, anyway. I think I trust Nacho's impression over svenskt's.

- f

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Wait do why is Cabd scum

I really liked his interaction with me and I felt like his willingness to answer questions was townie

He wasn't taking a sit back from the Sven ordeal?

Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhere

I don't think we're decided on cabd being scum. I'm not, anyway. I think I trust Nacho's impression over svenskt's.

- f

WHAT ABOUT MY IMPRESSION

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[4] Svenskt Stål (Cabd, Nachomamma8, GuyInFreezer, TiphaineDeath)

Shouldn't we at least postpone lynching him? If he's town (which I still think he is), we essentially have

a tracker that can't be nk'ed

(and if he is we saved ourself a lynch).

- b

Here this sounded like you were saying NK immune.

If I misunderstood that please clarify thanks

I realize that I could have been more specific, but the word "essentially" is supposed to mean something different than "literally".

- b

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Why would any sane scum NK sven

Pedit: what's your read on Sven exactly

This is exactly why I used the word "essentially" - any sane scum wouldn't.

- b

[GuyInFreezer]

@Sajin: I wasn't very clear there but what I wanted to say was I don't understand how you see "you can have my role. Both of them." as sven implying "I'm giving you both good and bad role."

If it's just my English, I'm willing to stop persuading that line. Otherwise, it's pretty damning.

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Wait do why is Cabd scum

I really liked his interaction with me and I felt like his willingness to answer questions was townie

He wasn't taking a sit back from the Sven ordeal?

Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhere

I don't think we're decided on cabd being scum. I'm not, anyway. I think I trust Nacho's impression over svenskt's.

- f

WHAT ABOUT MY IMPRESSION

I trust your impression too! And I'm kinda used to you and buldermar not agreeing on stuff after the poetic justice game.

We really need to play a game with that 3 headed hydra soon.

- f

[GuyInFreezer]

no.
No.
NO.
NOOO!

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Let the love spread