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Do something.In post 12, dntfkingcare wrote:Hello there!We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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In post 13, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Metal Sonic needs more votesWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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oh yeah and for post 25
My vote is now serious
I mean, I don't mind the miller claim. But I do mind the feigned innocence of "oh deary me of course scum would never fakeclaim a miller!" You know why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Your grandmother knows why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Why would you be dishonest like that?
I mean, come on. We're good players here. Don't insult our intelligence.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Hi I am VT.In post 28, Svenskt Stål wrote:
well, since i have claimed you have to make a decision, i am either miller town or scum.In post 26, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why would a miller ever be killed?
if people belive me i will not get heat
scum kills people that get no heat
also i am very good at catching scum
I'm now conftown because I can use the same reasoning to justify why scum me would never fakeclaim VT.
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Fuck what?In post 31, Svenskt Stål wrote:
your logic involves scum hoping that the cop will investigate me and find guilty... which I, by claiming miller, have allready confirmed will happen.In post 27, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why the actual fuck would scum NK a miller?
there is 0 times out of 100 that a cop will get something else then guilty on me.
i am either scum lying, or miller telling the truth.
orc, i dont know what you mean by dealing in absolutes. i hate my role and if investigated i will die... so i thought i would insta claim
i can claim flavor too if that helps
Why would millers ever be investigated after claim
My logic is that there is obviously a scum motivation behind a fakeclaim. And that is to ward off investigative results. Why haven't you been considering that?
You dealt in absolutes with regards to how you think you would be perceived by town. It's retarded to assume that "oh yeah town will either think i'm town or think i'm scum. If they think i'm scum, i'm lynched. If they think i'm town, then it's suspicious when i get to endgame"
I mean, I don't even know where to start in explaining how that doesn't work.
Out rolls the Svensults. Why don't you vote me?In post 32, Svenskt Stål wrote:In post 29, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:oh yeah and for post 25
My vote is now serious
I mean, I don't mind the miller claim. But I do mind the feigned innocence of "oh deary me of course scum would never fakeclaim a miller!" You know why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Your grandmother knows why scum would fakeclaim a miller. Why would you be dishonest like that?
I mean, come on. We're good players here. Don't insult our intelligence.
your intelligence is abscent and if town you are nothing but noise.
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Hi vote sven
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Too preoccupied with fabricating the fakeclaim.
Gut read on sven?
Pedit: Oh. >.>
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Why is my read on Sven always not shared by peopleIn post 45, GuyInFreezer wrote:I also see Sven as town at this moment.
Can you explain this
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Remind me to come back to this in like three pages.In post 47, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sven, it surprises me that your posting is so incredibly weak because I expected you to be someone to liked aggression, meaning you could handle a bit of heat. But now I see I have to treat you like a emotionally distressed newbie...Thanks.
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no, I'm leaning a little townish on svenskt.In post 44, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Too preoccupied with fabricating the fakeclaim.
Gut read on sven?
Pedit: Oh. >.>
Pedit: let me post
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Okay so by the amount of crossposting Nacho and I did I'm assuming he's town.
Fery always townreads me and avoids RVS so I'm not getting anything out of her. However, if Sven ever does flip scum on a town-read from Fery, I'm looking at a lynch going that direction. I respect you too much as a town-player.
Let's talk about Metal Sonic. He hasn't replied to or even acknowledged my RVS push. Wonder why?
VOTE: Metal Sonic
Hi guys some help here
Pedit: holy shit avalancheWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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In post 53, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I'm right here with you but I think it's better if we give him his space to get into some sort of groove.In post 46, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why is my read on Sven always not shared by people
Actually I was going to bring this up later but now seems like an apt time. If you wanted to give Sven space to get into his groove, why does it seem like you were trying to provoke him in 47?In post 47, Nachomamma8 wrote:Sven, it surprises me that your posting is so incredibly weak because I expected you to be someone to liked aggression, meaning you could handle a bit of heat. But now I see I have to treat you like a emotionally distressed newbie...We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in
A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.
Why are you not considering maybe
C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^
Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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I like you.In post 60, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I completely wanted to provoke him. Then he gave me a response that was far more meek than I was expecting regardless of alignment, so I backed the fuck off.In post 58, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Actually I was going to bring this up later but now seems like an apt time. If you wanted to give Sven space to get into his groove, why does it seem like you were trying to provoke him in 47?
I'm fine with lynching Sven sometime soon. jsyk.In post 63, ² wrote:
If he's scum, I doubt my town read will last. If he's town it may not last. I helped get him lynched in a recent game after townreading him earlier. worst town game I've played in a long time.In post 57, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Fery always townreads me and avoids RVS so I'm not getting anything out of her. However, if Sven ever does flip scum on a town-read from Fery, I'm looking at a lynch going that direction. I respect you too much as a town-player.
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But I understand. It's the same reason I pushed for a mislynch on marangal in Poetic. I'm only going to throw suspicion at you if Sven flips scum while you're townreading him.
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I was referring to below post mostly.In post 67, Nachomamma8 wrote:
It's stupid, but it's not an uncommon defense for town.In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
And since I'm assuming you're saying it's not a uncommonIn post 52, TiphaineDeath wrote:Wait, you wanted me to read on the first day? Bah.
I thinkvote Nachois better really.
Fakeclaiming miller is a moronic and dangerous gambit that I have never actually seen a scum use, and that's in like 20+ games.self-defense for millers...We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Hm.In post 69, Cabd wrote:
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists. I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in
A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.
Why are you not considering maybe
C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^
Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
VOTE: sven
This makes me think of AP's setup in BSG a bit, having a town rolecop in the game to validate the miller...
Cabd let's assume Sven town. Who's scum, most likely?
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Just throw a name out there. Tentatively, we know we only have 4 pages and only one major event, it's okay. Give me a name of one possible scum if Sven is town.In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.It's really weird but based on our hydra interaction I feel like this post makes me want to town read you.
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I'm typically obvtown enough to attract nightkills rather than investigations in games with people I know. I probably wouldn't have claimed and just relied on towncred to get me through.In post 80, Svenskt Stål wrote:In post 73, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Although I have to admit, if Sven is scum he's playing this beautifully with the thought narration and inner monologue and stuff.
see now i wish i was scum.
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In post 79, GuyInFreezer wrote:I don't like Cabd's #76 pairing with his previous post.
P-Edit: ninja'd(?)
You people do realize he was responding to a hypothetical question of mine where I asked him to entertain sven-town right?In post 78, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Is that what you're doing?In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.
Do something.
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Here it is.In post 72, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Cabd let's assume Sven town. Who's scum, most likely?
I don't like GiF's casual mud-slinging on Cabd for a false reason and his general removal from the hot topics.
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Okay.In post 88, GuyInFreezer wrote:I was gonna ask "what false-reason" and I saw this post ↓
No I didn't.In post 86, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You people do realize he was responding to a hypothetical question of mine where I asked him to entertain sven-town right?
Also if you're talking about Sven thing as "hot topic," I have you and Sven as town so I really don't find anything to comment atm.
I'll leave my vote on you until I see something pro-town though.
Good night all. Finals tomorrow.
Oh yeah. Cabd townWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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nvm about that town readIn post 102, Cabd wrote:Right, so the meeting only allows you to make tiny posts with no content, gotcha.
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Yes please.In post 100, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Elaborate on this plz.In post 99, TiphaineDeath wrote:Huh, interesting.
Cabd was looking town riiiight up until 102.
I'm starting to see Sven town.
Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven
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*Sorry, I'm starting to see GiF town. Thought typo.
I'll just go ahead and go back to VOTE: Metal Sonic and I hope I wake up to a wagon on him.
Pedit: Oh okay. So sort of like Buld hating on people who use "I have a life" as a dodge-reason.
Eh. Bad town =/= scum I guess.
I think most of us are town here.
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Is the fence leaving an imprint on your butt yetIn post 114, BROseidon wrote:
Why is this stupid? If it's generally true that miller claims on day one are legit, then we should not lynch Sven, right?In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
Why are Cadb and GiF town as fuck, and what does a "boring" vote even mean?In post 112, Nachomamma8 wrote:[quote="In =
Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
I'll buy Sven's miller claim for now. The miller claim early is super risky for scum, and for the miller it's a reasonable choice to make (I've day one claimed miller on the other site where I play, and it's standard there for millers to claim day one there). I don't think the fact that Nacho and Orc were so aggressive in questioning the claim makes them either town or scum (on the other site where I play it tends to be both that attack D1 miller claims), but I like the way in which both of them did it. Thinking both are town. Unsure about the rest.
Don't agree with 76 though. I don't think that everyone who chimed in on the miller claim is auto-town, and now that that post has been made it is definitely not an assumption we can make.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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It's stupid because "oh because he doesn't have a meta of fake claiming miller so this miller claim must be real!" makes a surprising amount of nonsense. Sven's meta wrt miller claims shouldn't be considered when evaluating it.
What are your opinions on cabd and GiF?
Do you have a scumread?
Why is everyone jumping on Cabd for his answers to my questions and ignoring the fact that they are, in fact, ANSWERS. To MY questions.We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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(Just in case it wasn't clear I sort of want you to explain this)In post 124, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You see obvtown on him?We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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So
Nacho is town
Cabd is town
GiF is probably town
Fery is probably town, meaning Sven is also probably town
BRO is probably town
This is the second most depressing type of list there is, right behind all scum.
Maybe we should go policy rach or something.
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If you pull a dozen half assed 'reaction tests' again
I will make sure you are today's lynch
I do not give a shit about meta
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I sheeped fery on her Sven read in bork game and it was the best decision of my lifeIn post 140, Nachomamma8 wrote:
ffery is town as shit.In post 137, Svenskt Stål wrote:@orc, no... we have to disagree there, also think you are too loose on you ffer read which i think should be null.
i just don't trust her read on you as much as orc does.
Okay it wasn't.
I actually have a life.
But it was still a good decision
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Fery has always given me a "in development" tag vibe on all her reads.
Or maybe it's just me.
But I think if Fery's read is truly in development she doesn't like to voice them at all.
I mean, after calibration, "seems townish" is at least to me a decently solidified read
Unless someone in 2 wants to correct me
But yeah I don't want to lynch Sven before fery gets a better read on him
Hmm could this be scum Sven trying to whittle down the number of obvtown players?
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In post 52, TiphaineDeath wrote:Wait, you wanted me to read on the first day? Bah.
I thinkvote Nachois better really.
Fakeclaiming miller is a moronic and dangerous gambit that I have never actually seen a scum use, and that's in like 20+ games.How about a vote here
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How ya doin svenIn post 157, Nachomamma8 wrote:
His thought process is weird, he doesn't have a voice of authority, hard for people to connect to. In this game, he was a scumread that orc, -->town leader<--, has played around with for a while.In post 155, ² wrote:Nacho, I was going to ask buldermar if he knows, but he's not around. Why is MS an easy lynch?
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I've learned my lesson re Sven. But I see where you're coming fromIn post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?
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Quick skim. Don't like varsoon as usual. TD is shit. Cabd town read got questioned--ill see if I can get to it, phone posting cases doesn't work very well.
Glad to see more people posting. Hi mollie
VOTE: TD
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Back
Away
No sudden movements
My hands are up
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Can't quote specifics but:
Regurgitated reasoning re Sven that is disguised
Dislike hatin on BRO because he has no scumreads I mean nobody really did at that point in time
Last sentence of 175 sounds like grasping at really silly straws
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Yeah but if he's a scum PR...In post 385, ² wrote:
Shouldn't we at least postpone lynching him? If he's town (which I still think he is), we essentially have a tracker that can't be nk'ed (and if he is we saved ourself a lynch).In post 375, borkjerfkin wrote:[4] Svenskt Stål (Cabd, Nachomamma8, GuyInFreezer, TiphaineDeath)
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I've seen this in two ongoing games now and I don't know what to make of it.In post 356, dntfkingcare wrote: I'm more active after D1. You can call it scummy, I'll call it a learning curve.
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You know your two hydras mesh perfectlyIn post 394, ² wrote:
Me too. I miss trashtalking.In post 381, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Id like majiffy to post soon
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Mollie and fery, you and majiffy...We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Rach sits on her hands and cheers from the sidelines and does nothingIn post 268, Nachomamma8 wrote:
For him, maybe. I don't vote Rach unless I think she's scum.In post 265, Cabd wrote:In post 169, Cabd wrote:Is there some past history about policying rach that I'm not aware of?
Also claims early as town
I only ever end up working out Rach's alignment by PoEWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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Wait do why is Cabd scum
I really liked his interaction with me and I felt like his willingness to answer questions was townie
He wasn't taking a sit back from the Sven ordeal?
Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhereWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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WHAT ABOUT MY IMPRESSIONIn post 417, ² wrote:
I don't think we're decided on cabd being scum. I'm not, anyway. I think I trust Nacho's impression over svenskt's.In post 412, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Wait do why is Cabd scum
I really liked his interaction with me and I felt like his willingness to answer questions was townie
He wasn't taking a sit back from the Sven ordeal?
Okay Cabd is getting a lot of flak for 76 and I feel bad for it because 76 was a REPLY to my question on the previous page. He didnt pop that line out of nowhere
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I'm not sure. I still think him odd.In post 425, Cabd wrote:So uh... Where the hell did sven go even?We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.-
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You realize that Cabd has been tunneling sven for the entire game right. I don't like him calling out sven for being /asleep/
And when I call him out he shoots rach some mud, despite him asking me earlier why I would want to policy rachWe are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.