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did you even read the post you're quoting
i gave up on getting nexus lynched when i went on about his claim for 2 days and nobody budged, you voted him while calling us all idiots and saying he'd flip town anyway, then unvoted when you went off on glork for not treating him the same way as a doc in a completely different game while not even noticing that your own supposed role pm made multiball incredibly unlikely, then voted him again later in the day and attacked him for not posting, not ANY of the shit he said in response until TSH counterclaimed him and you brought up the actually decent point about his bodyguard claim.-
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oh hey do you want some actual CONTEXT for the post that you're trying to say i'm shit for by the way?
In post 2184, Gammagooey wrote:double alternatively you could look at this second gamma post
OH PSYCHE I STILL THINK NEXUS IS SCUM WITH THAT CLAIM
double deadly serious this is garbage
"I possess the blade Ragnell, which has great power but on depending on the battlefield conditions."
the fuck is that its basically saying lololol dont lynch me i could be tooooootally useful later game when the """""""""""battlefield"""""""""" is more evenly balanced
no fuck that
fuck it
fuck it
lynch death murder kill death
nexus is pretty likely scum even without a counterclaim, scum will have safeclaims in a vi game and the most important scum just got daykilled without a chance to use the safeclaim they had (giving the other scum the chance to use it)
COUGH NEXUS COUGHWHEEZEDEATH
okay i think you get my point here
i reserve the right to change my mind if nexus isn't lynched by the time i'm sober but i really
really
really
really
really doubt it.
so yeah i'll bug you guys about it tomorrow some more
SLEEP
uh everyone else that would post in this game has either gone home or is sleeping already
so yeah cya tomorrow afternoon/night probably.
bye now.
~~~GAMMAZING
In post 2219, Gammagooey wrote:weee sober gammaposting
ike as a doctor makes slightly more sense than i thought since he's protecting crimean royalty in the second game and i didn't know that i think?
vi would 100% absolutely without hesitation put the biggest character in the game as a fakeclaim though ludi
leaving singer's place soonish so I'll probably post again about it later tonight.
In post 2248, Gammagooey wrote:yeah I agree with "lurking because PR" instead of lurking because being too lazy to read this game is pretty unlikely to actually happen, and trying to use a pr claim to excuse scummy behavior is absolutely a scumtell.
i mean with the excuses about posting with exams too it REALLY seems like horseshit that him lurking was a plan based on him having a PR, I think it makes a lot more sense that he's making up the claim to fit his play instead of the other way around (changing his play based on his role)
I still want nexus lynched today.
In post 2249, Gammagooey wrote:and by the way if nexus flips scum i am totally okay with lynching greyice next based on the garbage unvote+ call glork out for barely related meta combo
even though i don't reaaaally think greyice would stick his neck out that far to defend a scumbuddy it is really seriously bad and I don't want him anywhere near LYLO if he's defending flipped scum like that.
In post 2251, Gammagooey wrote:although to be fair I think his katsuki tunnelling is also much more likely to come from grey-scum too so it wouldn't be completely "he defended a scumbuddy therefore death".
oman is hard to lynch because wagons not on the top votee are EFFORT and oman is generally a cool guy that people know and don't want out of the game for any reason aside from him looking scummy.
In post 2259, Gammagooey wrote:if you can get enough votes or people saying they'll vote grey to make it bigger than the nexus wagon than I can definitely deal with hopping on.
SO if you want grey dead but you also like your vote on <insert larger wagon here> say so and prepare for <amazement/dissapointment/EXPLOSIONS/a parrot with a cap on its head>!
In post 2345, Gammagooey wrote:In post 2344, Magister Ludi wrote:Those vote counts were exceptionally close together.
yeaaaah wouldn't be surprised at all if there was another kill on town before the end of tomorrow, the first one was at 18 and we just hit 36 and are apparently not actually that close to lynching anyone.
greyice vote hops with absolutely no effort to get anyone to lynch who he's voting for in this game given dese mechanics is still horrific (although i guess its better than him not voting for whatever reason that i forgot about)
i'd like nexus dead most still but none of the "wagons" are actually bad so make one happen and let's make it dead. (if anyone wants it spelled out wagons include nexus oman greyice and avenging angel atm.)
In post 2346, Gammagooey wrote:actually you know what
unvote, vote: oman
bam, helping, nexus probably isnt getting lynched today with the "waitandseeeeeeee" crowd everywhere and I can very grudgingly see nexus's claim as at least possible. If he doesn't have some damn good shit tomorrow though I want him smeared across the floor as a layer of damp red dust.-
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baaaam
In post 1918, GreyICE wrote:Oh for gods sake
Don't you assholes dare say that you don't see it
His scum reads were the largest wagon at the time
And the one person in the game attacking him
THE LARGEST WAGON AND THE ONLY PERSON ATTACKING HIM
COULD THESE SCUM READS GET ANY LAZIER?
FUCK YOU ALL
VOTE: NEXUS
HE'S PROBABLY TOWN
BECAUSE YOU'RE IDIOTS
BUT I DON'T GIVE A FUCK
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In post 4111, GreyICE wrote:Congrats Gamma.
You've been calling me scum for days.
And content to push me while voting other random people because you're Drunk/Bored/Tired/Stupid/Whatever flavor of excuse floats your boat.
Very good solid behavior that. Consistent.
GreyICE wrote:
NEXUS DESERVED PRESSURE AND HE DESERVED TO BE LYNCHED
I agree and am glad we could agree on things in such a cordial manner.
but that is leaving out your unvote and the doc discussion you had with glork that was near that, pretty sure after the "no idea of his alignment" post.-
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well yeah i thought quil was more likely scum than implosion so i voted him. clearly i was wrong on that.
and i try to lynch people who can actually get lynched. it helps sometimes. most of my vote switch quotes have a comment in them saying why i changed over, and all the shit you're attacking is me failing to get any momentum for the person i wanted lynched more and then changing votes. avenging angel i don't think ever got another vote on him and my vote on nexus was totally lazy garbage, his play was lurky but it didn't really stand out from the other lurkers until his claim came out.
and i don't think that you meant to pressure nexus by voting him while screaming that we were all idiots, sorry. if you mean the vote post when you just called out his inactivity then that makes more sense but I still think your early katsuki tunnelling was way more likely to come from you-scum and your unvote to go off on a barely related tangeant with glork looked really bad to me.
a roleblock on you and no nightkill certainly isn't going to make me think you'relesslikely to be scum.
you've probably ninjaed me 4 times while i wrote this so i'll get to it in a minute.-
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Not gonna quote nearly all of it because I've spammed the thread enough already tonight but here's the short version.
after nexus's first claim of doctor you unvote him and call out glork with this-
In post 2225, GreyICE wrote:In post 1105, Glork wrote:With Prana being uncountered, I refuse to lynch him. Simple as that. The town almost certainly has to have a Doctor role in a game with two scumgroups, and that has to be Prana.
HERE WE GO
YOU SEE WHY I'M A LITTLE FREAKED GLORK
START MAKING ME FEEL BETTER
You don't state your own opinion of the claim even though I would guess you don't want to lynch him and think it's likely theres a doc in the game at this point assuming you-town, but in attacking glork you make a giant distraction to nexus himself and the actual conversation with glork ignores that in every town win condition in the game it states that if the daein resistance is completely eliminated and we have one member alive then we win, pretty much eliminating any chance of the actual multiball context that makes it relevant at all.
for me it's mostly that jumping off nexus at that time gave him a decent amount of breathing room while everyone read over his claim and decided to vote/not vote him, and then when it's looking like he might not be lynched you hop back on saying that he's playing horribly. It just looks to me like you wanted to derail it at first and then get back on for cred later when he might not actually get lynched from it.
going to bed now btw, sorry for spamming the page to everyone else. have a good night grey. kayne too.-
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alch I'm like 99% sure you're telling the truth here but on the 1% that you're not you do really need to unclaim given what TSH said given that they can confirm sanaki in the game.
but yeah confirm it one more time for everyone's paranoia and then let's lynch the fakeclaiming scum.-
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In post 4171, Hinduragi wrote:Tierce, are you still here? Know of any games where Vi went bastardmode and put the same rolename on two different town roles/fakeclaims/scum roles? Cause it's either this or scum just ran out of fakeclaims.
Also, I need someone to outline flavor for me because I seriously haven't played a single minute of this game my entire life. How many leaders are dead and how many should there be/do you think there are/are left?
Vi did put once put a scum character in whose name was the same as their fakeclaim although they were from different games/films/somethings in cats mafia or whatever that marathon game was, but vi wouldn't make two people the actual same character in a theme game like this, and i'm Pretttttty sure there isn't two sanakis in fire emblem.-
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kk let's lynch scums.
and tsh isn't scum. for srs. benmage still comes after this.-
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oh right, thought ike became king but that might have been at the end of the game this is based on or my memory is lying to me and i am just making shit up as i go along, one of those two.
Tierce Cymbeline is sanaki's main ability according to the wiki and makes thousands of times more sense than an ability that says "lol im important don't lynch me".-
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In post 4234, GreyICE wrote:Okay, look folks, here's how it comes down. LLD CAN CONFIRM ME.
Now if we let that happen,
1) scum shoot LLD, who is not part of their kill list, 99% likely.
2) scum shoot me. I'm confirmed Sanaki, you save a lynch (use it on gamma, not Tim).
3) scum let me become confirmed town
What is the downside here?
downside-ur scum
also you are clearly not voting me yet
this is very disapointing
ludi everyone's posting in-thread at least once today. kats was the last person to check in i think, was thinking about it when tammy was talking about another explanation for the no kill.-
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clearly this means it is time for parties
i dedicate this to grey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... jli3hj0ZkM-
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In post 4203, Hinduragi wrote:There's nothing left for this.
Dice are on the table. My money is on snake eyes. All in.
Vote: GI
heeeeey vi i think you missed this after hindu's unvote-
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eeeeeeh i kind of wouldn't be surprised if scum no-killed here? but benmage does need to die and he's one of the people that would be more likely to no-kill anyway though.
I really don't think Toasty makes sense as scum. The scum trying to lynch him day 1 AND the counterclaim of alch looks incredibly town to me.
I want some detailed reads from a few people, preferably before the day ends. We've been kind of coasting on role results for the last three days and I want some actual reads and thoughts to go over to help. People I want reads from are Benmage (although his doesn't matter as much if he's dying today), Nikanor, Rhinox, singer, and actually katsuki even though I think he's like 96% town from various stuff at this point.
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on toast wagon- hazevengemage was the first vote on his wagon and he's the biggest ??? there, grey and implosion got on at around l-7/8 then jumped off, implosion got back on a little later, schmu hopped at the new l-7 while me and hindu were jumping off, and then implosion and schmu hung around until the wagon entirely collapsed with the MoI wagon springing up.
So every flipped scum except Nexus voted him at some point, and Nexus was pretty much not there for day 1.-
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Grey's tunnelling on kats for horseshit reasons was like the entire reason why he was scum super early day 1. schmu and implosion i don't think were bussing there but i'll go over their posts too.
psh like i pay attention to things kayne. do think you're more likely scum than a decent amount of people but i had a town read on dram d1 and i'd like to think that was correct. also i don't remember what your scumreads are so having those would be nice.-
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In post 545, implosion wrote:Hi.
Toasty: connection hunting isbad.In a 29-player game, the probability that you're going to successfully pick out two scum from a relational tell on day one is practically zero. I always cite Vi's guide when i'm making this point but yeah it should be obvious why and I don't feel like going into why right now.
Toasty is scummy. First of all the way that he voted for UN instead of Tammy in his first post doesn't make sense - he said that he shifts to UN, essentially, because UN called Tammy town. So his suspicion on uberninja is largely dependent on his suspicion of Tammy. On the other hand, he gave independent reasons to be suspicious of Tammy, but didn't vote on them. He votes uberninja essentially for being scum with Tammy. He also talks about the way that Tierce treated uberninja. His comments on post 68 also misinterpret the post in a rather strange way, as calling Tammy town and then voting her. I really feel like if you read something and misread it like that, you'd read it again until you realized what it actually said, and not just go with that being what it is. Unless he's talking about where UN just overtly called Tammy town, but that was after he voted Tammy, and he said later that he forgot his vote had been on Tammy. In fact, he explained that he had forgotten his vote was on tammybefore toasty's post. Either way, toasty is missing very overt things from the people that he's calling scum.
Also dislike pretty much all of 449.
My first impressions of tammy/un/tierce are all town (tierce more so than the others). Alchemist might be scum. Less so than toasty right now. I'll look at other people later.
VOTE: Toasty
Schmugen wrote:Much has been said to merit the below vote already. Not only does Toast come in and suspect the 3 wagons at the time with no other reads, he continually goes back and asks how he could possibly have reads on others by page 8. A few of these other reads come through around page 40 turning his initial 3 reads into 9 reads out of 28, 5 of these being null and no mention of previous suspect Tammy. Of these reads, only one is scum and that's DDDP of all people. Really? You're reading this game, the same words I'm reading, and you come back with DDDP.
Unvote, VOTE: ToastyToast
Schmugen wrote:@Toasty - I have two mostly solid scumreads and one decent scumread, yes. The difference between mine and your early ones that I'm voting you for is that mine looked at everyone after a large amount of game went by and yours looked at the 3 largest wagons early and looked at no one else. Your biggest complaints about DDDP seem to be his giving his vote to Spy and not voting Dram when he says he would vig Dram if given a chance. While not expressly stated, he gave his vote to Spy before your entrance, and if he likes where his vote is, his 'I would vig Dram' is fine. Incidentally, his vote is on you. Could this have anything to do with your scumread on him? Your four largest scumreads are all on your wagon.
And no, I try not to forget early play. One of my favorite things about forum mafia is the inability to delete old posts. Someone has to remember what came before and not let scum slip by.
yeah this reads like "lynch dis person he guud mislynch", not bussing.-
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wellll there goes any chance of getting reads that don't consist of pretty much unreadable counterclaim-related opinions.
i have no intention of voting in the next few days regardless of how baller glroks plan is and more than likely that'll last through the weekend. i would encourage others to do the same and read through stuff. lots of stuff.
don't really have anything else to say right now.-
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hey guys remember what i said about reading the damn game.
ddd's result on benmage is glaringly obvious given his posts the day ben was modkilled.
spy and tammy results aren't nearly as obvious but they make a lot sense given what he was saying during those days.
if you think ddd is scum for other things then fine whatever but the "durf he's partially fakeclaiming" angle is blatantly retarded.-
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okay.
glork, i haven't played the fire emblem game this mafia game is actually based on.
but based on the PREQUEL to it that i have played most of the way through, kurth does not make any sense as scum in this game. i really think vi just has you trying to find someone that doesn't exist unless its dana.
i'm too drunk to actually read through the rest of the posts here. i may/may not have comments on it tomorrow.
ninja'd but i'm not reading those posts yet. if you have something that can be read in a couple sentences that you want to ask me go for it i'll be on for like 10 minutes.-
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apparantely i feel like theres a different lesson to be learned from scummies blankvitational than glrok.
fuck claim-plans. i want people to fucking go through the game and decide reads from that, we're pretty much at the limit of the usefulness of claims i think given how likely it is for vi to give scum the power roles that have been claimed so far.
and yes i do know i'm a hypocrite for not doing this enough myself yet. it doesn't actually change anything here.-
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tammy, alchemist was a threat to the scum no matter who he suspected, a town roleblocker with 1/2 scum left is incredibly dangerous to scum. unless you have a legitimate chance of being lynched in a given day don't clutter the thread with garbage that scum could use for the sake of using it for defense. if you're going to use kill wifom then use it offensively, not defensively. defenses are usually useless garbage in a game like this.
i'm going to try to be as clear as i can here.
i haven't gone over as much as I wanted to.
If i HAD to vote someone now I think I would vote LLD. I didn't like her play in the early days and she's been pretty much coasting since then. But I have a lot of hesitation given how she reacted to someone else being blocked in regards to Spy. She COULD have faked it and be scum with toast but i think toast is probtown. and I think that most of the time the "this guy is third party" when there's already a dead third party and there hasn't been a non-mafia kill in AGES is more likely to come from scum than not.
If I had to blow up the entire game minus two players and hope that both were town for a win it'd be hindu and TSH right now. hindu has looked more town than pretty much anyone else this entire game and TSH pulling a gambit here would mean he has a MUCH MUCH better scum fakeclaim than both scum we've lynched so far AND decided to bus Nexus for credzzzz instead of just letting him coast for at least a day and fucking over the town with whatever abilities Tar had. I really don't think that either are scum.-
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fine whatever.
I really think that if we lose this game for any reason other than that "welp scum only had to kill 4-5 people and they had a roleblocker to stop the bodyguard so gee geeeeee"
it'll be because we all got so damn frustrated at this game that we thought people deserved to lose no matter what their likely alignment is.
so stop with the insults and go over the game, both of you please. if you want to be helpful go over greyice+schmugen's posts and tell me who you think the most likely scum is based on that plus what the individual players have posted so far.
tammy people change their opinions constantly in games like this. yeah it would have been better if he had asked you to do it before now but I don't think him asking you to do it now is a scumtell, especially given how many generally scummy people just died with greyice+the triple modkill.
glork I know you're irritated at what she's saying but don't be an asshole about it. It'll just tunnel us further into this fuckhole.-
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