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Post Post #695 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:36 am

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28 pages... I hate you all.

I'll try and catch up but well.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #1) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:38 am

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Eh I thought Kuribo was in the game. Oh well.

At least I think I have a sheep target so things are all good. Gogo 2min townreads. XD
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Post Post #700 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:43 am

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In post 698, Tierce wrote:Thanks for showing to the class again how blind you are, UberNinja.

My strong towntell on Wyrd is the fact that Fate resort to a pre-game discussion I had had with him with how I would approach games in the future, and he analyzed it to reach the conclusion that I'm town. The fact that he is actually doing this, when it would be so easy for Fate-scum to dismiss that conversation we had (and so out-of-place for
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to mention it in-thread as to why he should have a townread on me), makes him town trying really hard to get a good read on me. Fate and Nuwen working together are an amazing town force, and I'm making sure that after I die people with BRAINS are listened to. Like Glork and Wyrd.

Listen to them while they are alive and Great Things should be achieved.


Explain.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #3) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:43 am

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Oh wait nvm this is about tiercetown not you thinking fatetown.

carry on.
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Post Post #703 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:44 am

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Oh god not gonna try and read those walls.
/wagonhop

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Also would always be up for UN death. He either needs to be policy'd today or tonight.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #5) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:33 am

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Just ISO'd OS.

If that vig is true then I'd be fine with stringing him up looks terrible.

Tierce whats your read on magnamagua? I don't like the one post of theirs I see already.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #6) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:18 am

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In post 730, GreyICE wrote:
In post 721, Tierce wrote:Kats would also lynch UN.

I can sympathize with this attitude.

Kats is actually looking at the more recent stuff and trying to make up his mind.

ScumKats would continue sheeping without bothering to give further analysis.

Back off Grey I mean seriously look at things Kats is actually playing ball here.


Kats plays ball as scum.

It's just shitty paddle ball where he tries to get morons and people the town dislikes lynched.

Also he's not said a damn thing about the fact Fate is here, and that's odd. Fate would scream at Kats all day, but Scum-Kats runs and hides from Town-Fate.


lol GI scum.

This game is easymode already.
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Post Post #735 (isolation #7) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:19 am

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Also lol tierce I don't need another player on this site who can read me reliably. = =

Her analysis of my play on the last page is complete truth though XD
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Post Post #736 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:20 am

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Also
UNVOTE, VOTE: GI
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Post Post #737 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:20 am

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In post 726, SpyreX wrote:
I'm always down for an MoI lynch since I love spite.


This is always the correct play but GI is scum here.
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Post Post #772 (isolation #10) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:33 am

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Oversoul + GI

Unvote, Vote: Oversoul
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Post Post #822 (isolation #11) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:21 pm

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Wait have I missed any game mechanic stuff that may have occurred?

Also GI is obviously scum it's cute how obv he is.

Glork why am I scum?
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Post Post #833 (isolation #12) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:32 pm

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Eager? When I called OS scum for his backtracking after supposedly shooting Tierce? Guess I can't vote scum when I see them then. :D

p-edit: WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THIS TALK IF IKE AND OTHER NAMES?
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Post Post #847 (isolation #13) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:03 pm

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In post 835, Hinduragi wrote:
In post 833, Katsuki wrote:Eager? When I called OS scum for his backtracking after supposedly shooting Tierce? Guess I can't vote scum when I see them then. :D

p-edit: WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THIS TALK IF IKE AND OTHER NAMES?

Why is GI scum?


Crap case. He doesn't believe what he actually said about me.

Plus I read GI scum with near accuracy.
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Post Post #850 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:21 pm

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I don't post cases~
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Post Post #892 (isolation #15) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:01 pm

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I would be VERY happy with a GI wagon.

Nikanor what do you make of OS's piss-poor backpedaling after his supposed Tierce daykill? Does that read like gambit or reaction fishing to you?
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Post Post #912 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:30 am

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In post 893, Tierce wrote:Very good timing for a Boyd pic.


Kats, you really can't read GreyICE worth shit. See Destiny Mafia, for example.

I am very curious what is this GreyICE wagon.

The problem with this game is that there are too many people affecting votes right now. I'd love to see what the hell is causing these flash mini-wagons, but without flips, etc. They seem to be pushed by different people every time, so I think it's more of a case of too-many-town-leaders than scum-is-nervous-about-main-wagons.

That said, why aren't the larger wagons being pushed further if they are on town?


What you're the one who posted my paranoia read on GI. I never stated he was scum there.

I'd point to every game where GI was scum that I was in.
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Post Post #915 (isolation #17) » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:34 am

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In post 908, Nikanor wrote:
someone idk wrote:Nikanor what do you make of OS's piss-poor backpedaling after his supposed Tierce daykill? Does that read like gambit or reaction fishing to you?

Shitty town gambit, followed by the realization that he's done something stupid, followed by apologies.


I was referring more to the post (or few I forget) right after he "shot" Tierce.
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Post Post #932 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:16 pm

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Something tells me that it was a good thing I was without comp access the first 28 pages...
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Post Post #950 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:17 pm

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Well yeah, MOI and GI are both assured to be scum.

Why's your vote still on Tammy?
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Post Post #992 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:28 am

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In post 975, Nikanor wrote:
In post 956, Tierce wrote:Hold it.

Nikanor, where did you get the impression that Katsuki hates playing scum?

GoofBash.
Although that may have been more a factor of him always getting lynched d1 at GoofBash. >_>
Oh and the game where he was mod-confirmed scum d1. Good times.


Oh god... = =
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Post Post #993 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:29 am

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In post 977, Oversoul wrote:When I first read through Dramonic's posts they seemed helpful and everything. Now that I am reading through it doesn't seem filled with the scumhunting I thought he was doing. :\

Glork, do you have an opinion for us? I would really prefer it if you didn't replace out and/or quit the site. :(


What's your read on Dram then?
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #22) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:39 pm

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Tammy, you can only string them up one at a time.

MOI can come after GI.

P-EDIT: lolol I don't recall having said anything about how or what you should read me as
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:46 pm

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I endorse this MOI wagon wholeheartedly.
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:18 pm

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In post 1080, Tammy wrote:But you're not voting.


Because GI is also scum.

I don't particularly care which gets lynched today and would support both wagons.
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #25) » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:55 am

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In post 1093, Wyrd wrote:Just stopping in to say GreyICE is definitely town this game.

I'll be re-reading Toast with Nuwen later to see if we can hop on that.


If this is Fate posting then we know that GI is scum now since you always read him backwards.
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Post Post #1134 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:58 am

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In post 1097, Wyrd wrote:
You don't catch Fate scum so stop acting like you CAN based on silly lil set-up games that were meaningless.


lol not if you don't hide behind Nuwen.

In post 1099, Wyrd wrote:
Fate always being able read GreyICE without fail +Obvtown


Team Mafia PYP.

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Post Post #1212 (isolation #27) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:33 am

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Role PM etc.
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Post Post #1220 (isolation #28) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:42 am

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In post 1215, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1212, Katsuki wrote:Role PM etc.

...

YOUR QUICKTOPIC IS NOTHING BUT RANDOM BULLSHIT AND CUPCAKE JOKES AGAIN, ISN'T IT?

I CAN READ YOU KATSUKI


Since when did I ever make cupcake jokes in QTs? = =
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #29) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:45 am

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In post 1216, Nexus wrote:
Katsuki, stop trying to fake lack of care by giving stupid "hilarious" answers to GI's question.


This is a curious statement.

What makes you think I'd care (or that I'm faking)? Then, even if hypothetically I was (impossible but meh), what would it say about my alignment?
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #30) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:52 pm

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unvote, Vote: MOI
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #31) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:51 pm

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So you're saying that you're willing to vote according to someone else's beliefs of who's scum and not your own?
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #32) » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:57 am

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In post 1248, dramonic wrote:At some point we decided to lynch Toast and MoI.
When did that happen and why?
Unvote


Because MOI is scum.
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #33) » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:58 am

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Also I'm p. sure that Faraday isn't in this game. = =
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #34) » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:36 pm

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Hi.

Screw code tags.

MOI, GI.
As if no one already knew this.
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Post Post #1268 (isolation #35) » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:51 pm

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ofc he's forced to stick me under vigbait. :D

His posts read faked so bad this game KILL IT WITH FIREEEEEEEEEEEE
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #36) » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:22 pm

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lol Andrius in VC.
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #37) » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:51 pm

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In post 1435, Nexus wrote:MoI wagon is bad.


What a surprise.

Hey Nexus, answer this.

In post 1222, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1216, Nexus wrote:
Katsuki, stop trying to fake lack of care by giving stupid "hilarious" answers to GI's question.


This is a curious statement.

What makes you think I'd care (or that I'm faking)? Then, even if hypothetically I was (impossible but meh), what would it say about my alignment?
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:07 pm

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Um apparently I got prodded on V/LA...

Yeah on V/LA til whenever SoL ends since I forgot my laptop charger.
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:40 pm

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In post 1829, Gammagooey wrote:also i'm right across from sir useless cupcake himself

SUP


SUP

At least I almost brought a game home for us until Socio decided to crosskill his strongest townread.
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #40) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:53 pm

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I probably should make my self useful if I'm not gonna be here.

Vote: GI


UN vote is pretty bad and needs explaining.
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #41) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:54 pm

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No f2f play is indeed a pretty bad indicator of forum play.
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #42) » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:47 am

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yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I really wish I counterclaimed MOI last day now.

Can anyone verify his claim because otherwise he's dead.



@UN: You were talking about Gamma play? playing with me has nothing to do with me.
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Post Post #1955 (isolation #43) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:18 am

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lululul

I'm interested in seeing where this goes.
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Post Post #2149 (isolation #44) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:02 am

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Goddamn I want to vote so bad right now...

Thought I had a nexus vote though.

Nexus has 6hrs or whenever until I get home to claim.
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Post Post #2209 (isolation #45) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:08 am

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VOTE: NEXUS


Still scum.
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Post Post #2218 (isolation #46) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:42 am

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In post 1216, Nexus wrote:
unvote


Obviously noone else fancies an Alchemist lynch.

Katsuki, stop trying to fake lack of care by giving stupid "hilarious" answers to GI's question.


In post 1797, Nexus wrote:Also delayed answer to Katsuki's question.

I think you're faking care to look like you're actually trying to be busy and focus on the game. I'd say it's a bit scummy but not enough to actually be scum.


Just noticed that Nexus finally answered my question.

If someone thinks that these two statements could have possibly come from town, I'd love to hear it.
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Post Post #2235 (isolation #47) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:58 pm

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In post 2231, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2230, Glork wrote:Actually.

Unvote
Vote: GreyICE



This shit is happening. Three strikes and you're fucking lynchbait.


Do not distract yourself from a Nexus!scum wagon.

You have correctly analyzed his claim. It's bullshit. Don't break off now. Grey is on the "slated to die" list anyway. If our friend who killed Implosion is a vig, he'll shoot Grey.


Thank fucking god it feels like it's been forever since I've agreed with LLD (or just played with you I think :P)
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Post Post #2243 (isolation #48) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:16 pm

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Well you are scum so.
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Post Post #2316 (isolation #49) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:16 am

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The argument of leaving scum alive in hopes that everything will sort itself out is stupid.

Going by claims is bad play. Look at her play FFS. If we go by claims scum would never get lynched.

P-EDIT:@Glork: And prey tell HOW do you confirm a doc in a non-lategame scenario? Doc is probably the easiest thing to claim as scum.
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Post Post #2398 (isolation #50) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:57 pm

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Lurkerwagons are bad.

Nexus still needs rope

Singer you need to do something with your vote instead of just words.

Did Oman ever respond to prods and request replacement, or did he straight out flake?
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Post Post #2401 (isolation #51) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:04 pm

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In post 2400, GreyICE wrote:

NEXUS MIGHT HAVE LESS CONTENT THAN YOU, KATSUKI


The problem with nexus isn't so much her 'content', but rather what's in her posts.

Players who haven't posted for 8 days well..
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #52) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:21 pm

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Post Post #2412 (isolation #53) » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:28 pm

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NEXUS IS BAD FOR REASONS I ALREADY OUTLINED BEFORE

WHY IS IT THAT IT'S SO HARD TO LYNCH SCUM
DO I HAVE TO ACTUALLY POST?

I despise posting when I don't have to but god oman lynch over nexus what is this shit
So much scum pussyfooting around this.
Those that are all BUT IKE can die even IF by some miracle nexus flips town (she won't).

Also GI that wasn't nice of you to pull stuff like that on me ._.
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Post Post #2620 (isolation #54) » Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:59 pm

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Vote: DDD


Will review the breaking down of that Nexus wagon in a bit. There's bound to be scum using shitreasoning of NEXUS CLAIM OH NOES UNVOTE /IGNOREPLAY

ALSO DIDN'T GET TO SAY YESTERDAY THAT YOU GUYS SUCK FOR HAVING TO GET HIPPOS TO CLAIM
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Post Post #2622 (isolation #55) » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:01 pm

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Pretty sure singer is town but just being useless yesterday. Her tone read towntowntown (admittedly only read one post but that was all i needed).
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Post Post #3280 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:37 am

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Something tells me that I don't want to know what I missed over the past few days..
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:07 am

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Yay summaries~

Always up for this.
Vote: GI

Still need to re-read parts of D2 but knowing me it's never gonna happen anyways.

Oh and kanye is towntowntown so awesome.

Uber you should claim properly here in a game with no concrete flips.
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Post Post #3323 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:16 am

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UN saying now I will hammer this if you don't properly claim.

p-edit: lol cupcakes are total truth and town tells tho
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Post Post #3329 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:18 am

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In post 3324, kanyeknowsbest wrote:btw kats whys gi scum?


d1 + gamma sed 2 vote him
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Post Post #3332 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:19 am

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In post 3329, Katsuki wrote:
In post 3324, kanyeknowsbest wrote:btw kats whys gi scum?


d1 + gamma sed 2 vote him


oh add on d2 and the fact that im pretty sure that he was one of demz dat tried to derail dat nexus wagon

plus 0 team mafia and general moi-influenced derpiness
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Post Post #3335 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:21 am

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lol l7 wagon
unvote vote un
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Post Post #3371 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:07 pm

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Welp

Spyspy hasn't dropped any of my spyspy scumtells though.
You guys better be fucking sure on this one..
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Post Post #3372 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:08 pm

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oh that claim.
unvote


yeah there are better lynch candidates out there.
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Post Post #3373 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:09 pm

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WAIT WAIT
MAYBE THAT EXPLAINS DUP KILL N2?
I haven't read any of his posts so no idea how town he was and all.
But track to implosion, kill N2?
I'll probably revote later. need some thinking time
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Post Post #3374 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:10 pm

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In post 3338, GreyICE wrote:
In post 3323, Katsuki wrote:UN saying now I will hammer this if you don't properly claim.

p-edit: lol cupcakes are total truth and town tells tho

HEY KATSUKI

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF DDD'S CLAIM

YOU FUCKING SCUMBAG

DDD&KATSUKI 2012

WHO WANTS TO PUNCH THIS TICKET?


Peeps are sayin that he hasn't claimed apparently?
also yeah I'm totally scum trolling you up but you'll never get my lynch anyways so.
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Post Post #3375 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:11 pm

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In post 3349, GreyICE wrote:
In post 3332, Katsuki wrote:
In post 3329, Katsuki wrote:
In post 3324, kanyeknowsbest wrote:btw kats whys gi scum?


d1 + gamma sed 2 vote him


oh add on d2 and the fact that im pretty sure that he was one of demz dat tried to derail dat nexus wagon

plus 0 team mafia and general moi-influenced derpiness

Fuck you Haylen was terrible and even admitted that she was appealing to me as town while voting me and calling me scum.


Yeah and?
If you thought that I'd ever let Haylen take a scum role PM then lulzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post Post #3377 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:16 pm

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In post 3376, Gammagooey wrote:katz i specifically told you in my summary that he didn't claim a specific role, just that he had one that could be independently confirmed

like i can understand not reading the thread but come onnn you can read my posts at least. they aren't ever wall garbage.


I did read it
Then forgot the specifics I guess (bad memory etc.)
Does it even matter though? :P
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Post Post #3401 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:08 pm

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VOTE: SPYSPY
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Post Post #3425 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:06 pm

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huh
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Post Post #3486 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm

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I'd rather spyspy over UN right now but.

that spyspy result is :/ as well
think after dota

P-EDIT: wow fuck you guys heres 1hr late post thats for ninja'ing me
ninja x25+ or some shit like that
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Post Post #3488 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:28 pm

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In post 3477, SpyreX wrote:
11. Katsuki - Kill this slot.


k nvm
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Post Post #3596 (isolation #72) » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:45 pm

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eh gamma leaving the backdoor open on the POSSIBILITY of me being scum is very interesting.

ALSO HEY KANYE
FUCK YOU

that aside UN HO
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Post Post #3692 (isolation #73) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:04 am

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In post 3659, UberNinja wrote:around

has nobody heard the adage that town-glork is never alive past Day 3? what the fuck, are you people all on crack?



I dunno, I can totally see scum keeping glork alive to drive mislynches on players like say me for example.
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Post Post #3694 (isolation #74) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:06 am

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In post 3641, Glork wrote:Katsuki: Supposing UN flips town, who is next on your list? If UN flips scum, who is next?


Don't know. Hadn't read any UN posts in depth.

To be honest I still believe scum lie amongst those who resisted Nexus heavily but I keep forgetting to re-read.
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Post Post #3695 (isolation #75) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:12 am

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Just reread 2 pages and holy shit got a ton of townreads out of that.

I'm fine with UN dying today if only because he'll just serve as a distraction in later days. We have 20 alive anyways, and at this point his lynch is kinda necessary imo (plus it's not like his play hasn't been scummy d3 or anything).

After UN I know who I want dead anyways so. :)
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Post Post #3696 (isolation #76) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:12 am

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+ person I want dead I don't see dying today anyways and UN-flip may influence my opinion on this player depending.
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Post Post #3699 (isolation #77) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:15 am

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unvote


eh just saw something that makes me think that UN is probably town.

>_________>b
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Post Post #3702 (isolation #78) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:17 am

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In post 3697, Tierce wrote:
This is not a policy lynch. This is a "his play is consistent with scum, AND we are ahead and need that inane use of a PR/town slot out the game in the unlikely chance he's town, because he would screw things up further down the road" lynch.
But he's still likely to flip scum. Yes, I'll review them attitudes from others if he flips town, but frankly, it's incredibly unlikely.


I agree with this much of this after that D3, but eh I don't think UN is likely to be scum after something I just saw.
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Post Post #3705 (isolation #79) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:18 am

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In post 3700, kanyeknowsbest wrote:dont do this to me kats


fuck you I mislynched spyspy of all people already I don't need anymore of this blood on my hands.

p-edit: SO MANY NINJAS
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Post Post #3709 (isolation #80) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:20 am

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eh... this is interesting.

I see no motivation from alchemist as scum outing the rb info on me though if he were scum...
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Post Post #3728 (isolation #81) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:46 am

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In post 3720, Glork wrote:So Kats, who is the play now?


I dunno, I'm running out of viable mislynches here.
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Post Post #3757 (isolation #82) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:03 pm

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hmm... Tierce, I know that UN has tried to improve his play given my contact with him at SoL, but how exactly does his play differ here from his (possibly old) townplay? I never read any of his old posts so (and I'm not going back to read those horrendous walls of his).
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Post Post #3761 (isolation #83) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:14 pm

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I forgot to ask how he plays as as scum since you've supposedly seen it before and I haven;'t.
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Post Post #3799 (isolation #84) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:48 pm

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Spyspy wasn't scummy though...

I hate times like this...

Might vote UN just so we can move the fuck on but THIS

In post 2273, UberNinja wrote:Fuck, I just want this game to move.

Vote: Nexus

Oman next, pretty please with a cherry on top.


After he left for Oman wagon but moved back onto Nexus doesn't feel like it comes from scum.

I'd hate to be the one who defended scum though so meh.

Vote: UN
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Post Post #3833 (isolation #85) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:03 pm

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In post 3812, Glork wrote:Kats deserves rope/bullets far more tham Gamma.


I'd love to hear as to why you think I'm scum. Considering that the likelihood of YOU being scum is far higher than me given both how Nexus interacted with me AND how you reacted during the entirety of NEXUSGATE.
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Post Post #3834 (isolation #86) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:05 pm

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In post 3809, UberNinja wrote:
I'm town Kats. Remember all the times you knew knew knew I was town but you voted me anyway?

This is one of those times.


I don't think I've ever had one of those moments before? :P

Maybeeeeee in [redacted], but I don't recall voting you there anyways (if I did it was because you were being a terribad poster).
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Post Post #3838 (isolation #87) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:03 pm

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In post 3836, Glork wrote:
In post 3833, Katsuki wrote:
In post 3812, Glork wrote:Kats deserves rope/bullets far more tham Gamma.


I'd love to hear as to why you think I'm scum. Considering that the likelihood of YOU being scum is far higher than me given both how Nexus interacted with me AND how you reacted during the entirety of NEXUSGATE.

WHOA
WHOA
WHOA.

HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE RIGHT HERE.

"given how Nexus interacted with me"?

Fucking.

Are you SHITTING me?


Let's look at the
ENTIRETY
of Nexus' interactions with Katsuki, guys. Quick. Somebody ISO Nexus and ctrl+f on "kats"... WHAT DO WE FIND?

Exactly TWO mentions.
In post 1216, Nexus wrote:
unvote


Obviously noone else fancies an Alchemist lynch.

Katsuki, stop trying to fake lack of care by giving stupid "hilarious" answers to GI's question.

In post 1797, Nexus wrote:Also delayed answer to Katsuki's question.

I think you're faking care to look like you're actually trying to be busy and focus on the game. I'd say it's a bit scummy but not enough to actually be scum.

Dana: I'm still convinced Alchemist is scum, but I need to re-read him. TSH would also be a good lynch candidate.
And what do those TWO MENTIONS of Katuski amount to?

"Scummy, but not enough to actually be scum"

Weak distancing!





wtg, Kats. Can't bullshit your way through this one.


trololol

bullshiting?

Except I called Nexus out on it for being scum long before he got lynched, aka D1.
Then you can look up all my reasoning D2 as to WHY nexus should be lynched regardless of his claim.

Meanwhile, what do you do?
HEY GUIZ NEXUS LYNCH IS BAD
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HER PLAY DESPITE HOW IT SCREAMS SCUM SHE CLAIM PR KEEP HER ALIVE
CUZ I WANT MA OMAN MISLYNCH PRETTY PWEASE?
It's a pity I have to settle for a UN lynch rather than yours because you're that mystery scumread of mine who I doubted would be the viable to UN.
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Post Post #3839 (isolation #88) » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:05 pm

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Anyone could easily read my ISO on the matter it's not hard.

GLORK IS FUCKING SCUM except that I doubt anyone will listen to me because.
Meh calling it now.
Enjoy being hated my votes not moving from you tomorrow doubly so if UN flips town.
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Post Post #4089 (isolation #89) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:00 pm

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God how the fuck did you guys manage 10 pages.

ANYHOWS I ENDORSE THIS ENTIRELY
VOTE: GI
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Post Post #4122 (isolation #90) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:13 pm

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In post 4100, GreyICE wrote:Meh, Wiki it.

God almighty TimEater is terrible. Two fucking games. Two fucking games he's attacked me for no reason whatsoever except that he's a brain damaged, mentally challenged 10 year old ape.



It's ironic that this is exactly how you've acted to me this game.
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Post Post #4300 (isolation #91) » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:21 am

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In post 4294, GreyICE wrote:Because of Modern Family Mafia.

Fate claimed a guilty on me, and was town. He did it preeettty much exactly like Tim did. That hesitation, then confirming the claim, then fucking with the flavor, then the town lost.

And also Rhinox, I'm dead town. So suck my balls, I can do whatever I want.

It's Benmage. And Gamma. 100%


Fate also called you town this game, which means you HAVE to be scum since he ALWAYS reads you backwards.

Also fuck you guys how do you manage 18 pages in less than 2 days = =
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Post Post #4302 (isolation #92) » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:42 am

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In post 4294, GreyICE wrote:Because of Modern Family Mafia.

Fate claimed a guilty on me, and was town. He did it preeettty much exactly like Tim did. That hesitation, then confirming the claim, then fucking with the flavor, then the town lost.

And also Rhinox, I'm dead town. So suck my balls, I can do whatever I want.

It's Benmage. And Gamma. 100%


Your fault for calling my slot all game, the fake guilty was good play. :P
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Post Post #4303 (isolation #93) » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:43 am

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eh what I just quoted the same post without realizing that it was the same. >.>b
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Post Post #4305 (isolation #94) » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:03 am

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In post 733, Katsuki wrote:
In post 730, GreyICE wrote:
In post 721, Tierce wrote:Kats would also lynch UN.

I can sympathize with this attitude.

Kats is actually looking at the more recent stuff and trying to make up his mind.

ScumKats would continue sheeping without bothering to give further analysis.

Back off Grey I mean seriously look at things Kats is actually playing ball here.


Kats plays ball as scum.

It's just shitty paddle ball where he tries to get morons and people the town dislikes lynched.

Also he's not said a damn thing about the fact Fate is here, and that's odd. Fate would scream at Kats all day, but Scum-Kats runs and hides from Town-Fate.


lol GI scum.

This game is easymode already.


Except that you clearly thought you had reasons.

Tons more in your ISO from what I remember about your "case". :D
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Post Post #4340 (isolation #95) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:11 am

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Dear Tierce, Hindu, and other fags who discredited my D1 read,

Go kindly fuck yourselves.

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Post Post #4417 (isolation #96) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:47 am

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Well benmage did call me town.

All my scumreads are now dead so I'm happy to just sheep until I get more.
Toasty is probably better than benmage lynch?

P-EDIT: Only 96%? :(
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Post Post #4419 (isolation #97) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:48 am

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Oh were all the flipped scum trying to lynch him? If so then probably ok with leaving him alive for a while then.
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Post Post #4541 (isolation #98) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:29 pm

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In post 4516, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
its typical for lld neighborization. shes a bad neighbor, dont neighborize lld she wont talk to you!!!!!!!!!


Too true. Our feelings were hurt that game.
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Post Post #4584 (isolation #99) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:00 pm

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Confirm not Glrok-countries.
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Post Post #4616 (isolation #100) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:18 pm

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>.>

Who did you rb btw toasty?
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Post Post #4618 (isolation #101) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:17 pm

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oh its a day action

btw kanye wants you all to know how sorry he is for being so bad at mafia and how he cried himself to sleep these past few nights for getting himself modkilled

Vi please don't modkill me for the above just passing it on I'm sure he would've wanted everyone to know~
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Post Post #4622 (isolation #102) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:12 pm

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If I could still be possibly scum based on my play thus far this game + nexusGI then it'd take a miracle for me to be town.
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Post Post #4623 (isolation #103) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:13 pm

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p.s. saying inclusion of my name in that list is prettyfuckingterrible.

Also out of LLD/DDDP pretty sure LLD is by far more town?
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Post Post #4670 (isolation #104) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:05 am

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Neighorizer rb + normal rb isn't much different from 2 country cops... in fact, it's worse in a sense.

Sigh this game will probably become much clearer once we whittle down.
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Post Post #4672 (isolation #105) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:20 am

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LSD is a great name for you really
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Post Post #4676 (isolation #106) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:36 pm

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In post 4673, singersigner wrote:We're not exactly sure that we can afford to whittle that much more down?


We have a shitton of people alive and 4 dead scum + a SK?

I mean I don't expect to be alive with say 2 claimed country cops, a claimed RB and claimed bodyguard if I were alive in 5p.

It kinda raises the question of whether lynching the claimed PRs would be the right move here, or to go for those who haven't... Only expose more PRs with the latter really but hey what do I know I'm bad at mafia.
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Post Post #4679 (isolation #107) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:09 pm

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Oh... That changes things...

>.>

Kanye sucks even more now and hippos probably need death.
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Post Post #4680 (isolation #108) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:16 pm

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Skimmed iso hippo reaction to the sanaki stuff was pretty bad

He'd sooner believe GI over one of his supposed "townreads" in alchy.

sighhhhhhhhh someone else read this gut isn't picking up any particularly STRONG scum vibes but some things make me feel a bit uneasy.
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Post Post #4757 (isolation #109) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:38 pm

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I'm quite happy with my set of townreads right now.

That reminds me to revisit singer sometime... I remember her making this one post regarding my play based on RL stuff during SoL, so unless she manages to make shit up as scum in her town tone of voice, she's probably town...
Mainly I don't think she'd make that post to me if she were scum. >.>
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Post Post #4783 (isolation #110) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:19 pm

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In post 4758, Tammy wrote:What are your set of town read Kats?


Eh I don't think it's beneficial to list them.
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Post Post #4787 (isolation #111) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:26 pm

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In post 4784, Gammagooey wrote:kaaaaaaats
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okay mostly i just wanted to say kats because i thought it would amuse me.

but also give me like one scumread with reasons.
if you really wanna be SECRETS it doesn't even have to be your strongest.

but one would be nice.


Glork gives me terrible gut feelings.

I also don't think that BOTH TSH/Toasty are town. Them being towntown is less than LLD/DDDP being towntown imo.
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Post Post #4795 (isolation #112) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:51 pm

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In post 4794, Tammy wrote:
In post 4792, Nikanor wrote:hey tammy you should post more words that nobody will read


I'll try...Is there a topic you'd like an essay on? I'm a writer.


Yes. I'd love a 5000 word essay on why cupcakes are awesome and should rule the world, and how baldness should be prevented by a fine elegant layer of frosting.
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Post Post #4796 (isolation #113) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:52 pm

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*I also promise that I'd actually read it unlike all your other posts

If you can make me laugh more than Mina did with ElliCupcake death scene, then props to you.
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Post Post #4803 (isolation #114) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:07 pm

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In post 4798, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 4794, Tammy wrote:
In post 4792, Nikanor wrote:hey tammy you should post more words that nobody will read


I'll try...Is there a topic you'd like an essay on? I'm a writer.

COLONIAL VIRGINA

also incorporate what katsuki wants in it somehow. preferably colonial cupcakes vs. the imperial english muffins or something.


Funny enough, the English Muffin was scum in Cupcake Mafia...
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Post Post #4807 (isolation #115) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:17 pm

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God this above post just made me feel absolutely sickly after reading it...
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Post Post #4808 (isolation #116) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:18 pm

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In post 4804, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 4803, Katsuki wrote:
Funny enough, the English Muffin was scum in Cupcake Mafia...

http://inception.davepedu.com/


Eh?
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Post Post #4811 (isolation #117) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:59 pm

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While its still related to the topic on hand

You should read this gamma
just found it when I was going through some old games
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3484824
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Post Post #4812 (isolation #118) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:00 pm

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(the post after its not bad somewhat a continuation)
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Post Post #4815 (isolation #119) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:19 pm

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Aha, that's the only Mina post I've ever read in its entirety I think.

Anyways it's been a productive friday this thread is only proof of it~
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Post Post #4818 (isolation #120) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:35 pm

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Mina posts are better than yours in that I can discern her alignment from them without having to read the actual post itself.

Now if every player were as transparent as that it'd be wonderful but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work like that. :(
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Post Post #4844 (isolation #121) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:35 pm

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I'd be interested to see where this heads.

Vote: Glrok
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Post Post #4845 (isolation #122) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:40 pm

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In post 2417, Nikanor wrote:well fuck now what do i do

nobody wants to lynch the guy I want to lynch.

The Oman wagon has built up too quickly to be on scum imo.

In post 2418, Nikanor wrote:Like I have no fucking clue why nobody wants to lynch the Hippos. Do people actually think he is town?

In post 2423, Nikanor wrote:Whatever I guess we don't even have a choice anyway because there's no way that Vi is getting two replacements in a 100 page game.
Unvote. Vote: Oman.


Eh nikanor why did you shift here?
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Post Post #4847 (isolation #123) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:43 pm

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I think I did but I don't think it meant anything to me? Because I've read that short sequence twice and still have no recollection as to what hindu said.

Anyways I decided to click the next page too and probably should just shut up for a bit because I'm happy with this wagon and shouldn't distract it.
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Post Post #4848 (isolation #124) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:44 pm

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Ok yeah nvm just pretend I didn't say anything about nikanor.

It's late.

Why are you on at this time anyways gamma it's even more crazy where you are right now.
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Post Post #4850 (isolation #125) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:14 pm

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Odd child you.
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Post Post #4882 (isolation #126) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:25 am

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In post 4880, ToastyToast wrote:@Gamma: Glork being turned to stone by scumbuddy seems odd for numerous reasons. 1) Glork was probably most vocal at the time of the stoning 2)We don't even know if scum would be able to target a buddy with a power like this. They usually can't--at least from my experience 3) The Day-ability thing is largely speculation


What. I have seen scum again and again use such day abilities on themselves... be it in face to face mafia with silencers silencing themselves, or scum in some Andrius mod game from forever ago "maiming" themselves.

I wouldn't say it implicates him, but it in no way clears glork of being scum...
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Post Post #4907 (isolation #127) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:10 pm

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WELL FUCK
I THINK I FINALLY KNOW WHAT MY ROLE DOES
Except my target is dead...

Cheeky Vi...
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Post Post #4930 (isolation #128) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:32 am

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Dana

for one thing
Glork's investigative ability is not confirmed town yet.
So right now, we're only operating on your confirmed investigative role, along with UNs.

Ok yeah after this
There is scum amongst LLD, DDD, and Glork.
And you all know where I stand on this.
LLD is the most town out of the 3 methinks
So I guess I'll be happy with DDD/Glork dying.
Still not happy with toasty/TSH and still think there is scum amongst them.
Glork threatening me and hindu with scumreads for not voting is all sorts of bad.
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Post Post #4931 (isolation #129) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:33 am

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Add in that Glork has been talking to us as if he knows we're town. >.>b
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Post Post #4934 (isolation #130) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:02 am

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In post 4933, Glork wrote:
In post 4931, Katsuki wrote:Add in that Glork has been talking to us as if he knows we're town. >.>b

I think you're town, but your posting has been shit enough to make me wonder. Because you're supposed to be better than this.


I thought I was suppose to be a VI. :neutral:

read that giant post of yours later.
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Post Post #4954 (isolation #131) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:42 am

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In post 4952, danakillsu wrote:@ Katsuki

Glork correctly named who he visited N2. He is 100% confirmed to be from Goldoa, the place he claims to be from. Do you find it likely that scum would reveal to us their true country? Do you find it likely that scum would be from Goldoa?


Why wouldn't they?

As for flavor knowledge, I have absolutely none whatsoever so I dunno?
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Post Post #5010 (isolation #132) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:29 pm

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In post 5009, singersigner wrote:I'm just gunna throw this out there again...is there any reason why we couldn't just have them investigate one of the unknowns tonight, and compare results tomorrow?

We'd at least have two less people to bullshit through...


Because apparently we don't have the time.

Which greatly annoys me because of giant pool of plausible scum imo.
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Post Post #5012 (isolation #133) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:56 pm

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AV, I'm bored, so you can tell me, how can I possibly be scum?
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Post Post #5017 (isolation #134) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:36 am

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In post 5013, Teleporting Speed Hippos wrote:Because we think scum will try to push us as possible scum based on the fact that our BG disappeared, resulting in Sanaki's death.
In addition, if Chaos is a scum controlled ability, then PermaBlocking us in this way increases the likelihood that scum will push on us for the fact that Alch died.

Plus your take on our reaction to the Sanaki claims is terrible.


If I were scum, my plan of action would be very simple (granted if the scum win con is as been speculated).

I'm not gonna say what it is though as that'd just be stupid since the scum haven't done it yet.
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Post Post #5024 (isolation #135) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:42 am

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Wait

So DDD didn't bother crumbing results before then?

Because see, crumbing =/= town..
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Post Post #5042 (isolation #136) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:30 pm

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In post 5025, Gammagooey wrote:lld claimed daein. like country daein not aligned with daein, so she shows up as equivilent to guilty if say there were another country cop in the game.

kats.
ddd even made a big post detailing every breadcrumb he ever made. read it.


I did.

I just realized something I missed the first time round.

Anyways,
Vote: DDD
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Post Post #5050 (isolation #137) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:05 pm

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That would be quite bastardly really if scum already have a cheapass wincon that differs from normal.
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Post Post #5052 (isolation #138) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:52 pm

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Nothing specifically, just that I missed some stuff and didn't realize when certain things were taking plac.e
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Post Post #5053 (isolation #139) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:52 pm

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Also happy moving glrok.
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Post Post #5059 (isolation #140) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:36 pm

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In post 5057, Glork wrote:
In post 5052, Katsuki wrote:Nothing specifically, just that I missed some stuff and didn't realize when certain things were taking plac.e

WHAT
did you "miss"?


Stuff that gave me odd gut feelings.
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Post Post #5062 (isolation #141) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:39 pm

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After skimming through a few Ludi posts in ISO, I'd be fine with his lynch as well.

I'd love both of them dead personally.
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Post Post #5075 (isolation #142) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:21 am

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In post 5070, Teleporting Speed Hippos wrote:
Why do people think Kats is town, again?

~AV


Unless you thin kI'm scum for my interactions with GI and Nexus?

In post 5074, Teleporting Speed Hippos wrote:
In post 5029, Glork wrote:Also, Vi games are required to make sense. They're complex, but they're not shitty and arbitrary. Throwing three roles that figure out countries and countering them by making them effectively useless is not remotely competent game design.

Three? >.<"


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Post Post #5081 (isolation #143) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:17 am

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Then reclarify? I remember you targetting me at some point, leading you to
"back off your scumread slightly"
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Post Post #5103 (isolation #144) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:28 pm

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Glork, you really don't care about which of LLD/DDD dies today don't you.
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Post Post #5141 (isolation #145) » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:25 pm

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lalalalalalala

this game is still =__________________________________=
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Post Post #5168 (isolation #146) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:38 am

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In post 5158, Vi wrote:
With that said, I was still very tempted to modkill Katsuki for receiving and passing on that message from kkb. <_<


Eh this would've really made it the worse modded game considering I was making that stuff up about kanye...



As for this game, well... I really wouldnt've lynched LLD over DDD so not much needed to be said there, LLD played rather well while the scumteam kinda... yeah.

The scum wincon was aided by that triple-modkill, no way town would've been in this position had not one of the targets gotten MK'ed there. Town didn't get enough time but meh. How a town loses a game of this size considering how many scum they managed to get lynched in comparison with town lynches...
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Post Post #5171 (isolation #147) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:41 am

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nvm about scum lynches but still scum deaths etc.
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Post Post #5172 (isolation #148) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:41 am

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In post 5170, Glork wrote:It's frustrating to see a town lose a game with like 12 protown players still alive, but meh. In the end, most of us made the wrong decision, I guess.



This.
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Post Post #5177 (isolation #149) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:47 am

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Sigh

Something I saw somewhere in the thread before GI died made me think that he and LLD were on opposing sides...
Prolly something LLD said.

GI I hope you don't ever play as asshole as you did this game, because it made it extremely unenjoyable to play with you, even if I knew you were scum.
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Post Post #5273 (isolation #150) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:00 pm

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Too few targets imo given HOW overly uninformed town were in this game.

Hunting 5(4) scum in 29 players WITH A RACE AGAINST TIME is too much to ask for a town imo...
Scum have an incredible advantage in town not even knowing what the scum wincon exactly is... LLD proved that with her play in that LYLO, since from a town perspective, we probably all had that feeling that it was probably near LYLO, but most of us figured that we still had another day I think... I think it's greatly underestimated the power scum have when they can manipulate their play according to how town THINKS the setup is, to what is the actual setup.

Granted it's kind of bitter much like how town got auto-lossed in OOT Mafia because a mason made it into LYLO and got auto-hammered... but well.

I think it was missing something to help lead town the right way but well.

Long story short, the numbers definitely did not help town out because 29 players only serve to muddy the waters. 6 probably would've been a better number of targets for scum, any more is rather hard for scum.

Game ending once it hits 85 regardless of whether the 3P was alive or not is ehhhhhhhhh but well that didn't really matter this game.

I dunno but it seems like it would've been far more fun to be scum in this all things considered.
At least town played great in that so many of us were able to made out town to each other... I think townlists for players were mostly devoid of scum?



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Post Post #5275 (isolation #151) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:03 pm

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I wish we could've seen how this game would've played out without the modkills to be honest...
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Post Post #5276 (isolation #152) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:03 pm

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(although it probably would've been a 3P win then, which would raise into questions 3P winning after dying etcetc. but still)
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Post Post #5280 (isolation #153) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:11 pm

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In post 5277, implosion wrote:As for setup balance... I think the operative word here is "swingy," but really, anyone joining this game should be able to tell that it's swingy by the scum's win condition. The scum could have had a target lynched day one, two shot night one, another lynched day two, and another killed night two (so scum could have won night two, or theoretically day two if the first days were long enough for greyice to get his daykill ability).

I think 5 targets is about right. I think the town did a relatively bad job of concealing who they were (pretty much any info was enough to determine who someone was - for instance, i figured out that magna was probably Tibarn based on what they said on day one), and then there were people who just outright claimed... which also let LLD do the same. I think that was probably a significant mistake. I think if this setup were played 100 times, it probably would lean a bit scumsided. Especially considering that the town was helped by two crosskills.

I think if the town did a better job with just claiming abilities and not identities, then it would have been better for them - if Magna had just claimed "masonizer" instead of "masonizer, and the leader of a country" then we wouldn't have known he was probably a target - i'm sure there's plenty of room for pretty much any ability in this game in flavor.


You forget that unlike scum, town had no idea what the scum wincon exactly ws.
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Post Post #5291 (isolation #154) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:03 pm

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In post 5281, Gammagooey wrote:uh kats you realize this was in the second mod-post of the game right? like it only being 5 players was a surprise but we did have a general idea.

*As a member of the majority, you win when the Daein Resistance has been subdued and one person with this Win Condition still lives.


Yes I realize that. I'm saying that town didn't know what it exactly was though, who/how many of the targets were.

I won't talk about if the targets were obvious or not though since I have no flavor knowledge so.
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Post Post #5292 (isolation #155) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:05 pm

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Seeing that glork post, I do kinda feel silly now given that I didn't know about the scum wincon early on.

I did miss the first 30 pages or so due to being out of commission though, then finals and SoL and etc.
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Post Post #5319 (isolation #156) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:59 am

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I'm not getting exactly how me not getting any town feelings from you makes me braindead, DDD. :/

Your postulations of LLD-town in a day where it was pretty much either you or LLD was odd too, felt like you wanted to delay the country cop flips.
And the CONFIRMABLE ROLE and how you went about claiming just felt scummier than LLD.

Oh well.
UN, you really need to try and stop thinking that everyone is out to get you... I mean, I knew that the shit you did coming from you was more likely to be town, but tbh, that list looked entirely like a scum tracker list...
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