The game of the year: town won!

[MattP]

Just went through ~50 of Hoopla's games and found about 5 where she was scum and it was not stated in the OP that scum have daytalk. In none of the game did she or anyone else ask about it. So I'll assume it's a towntell for now.

[MattP]

Wtf are mimes and how do we know they exist in this game when it's not in the OP

[MattP]

Just went through ~50 of Hoopla's games and found about 5 where she was scum and it was not stated in the OP that scum have daytalk. In none of the game did she or anyone else ask about it. So I'll assume it's a towntell for now.

As much as I like the town cred, I should say that if you want to do it right, you need to look into whether I've asked as town before. Otherwise you've just discovered a null tell. I don't really know if I have before.

Did that too, for about five games. I'll look through some more town games, though. Otherwise, you're right, it's a null tell.

[MattP]

Librarian is town.

Derp, duh T-bone, I lost it in the 10 posts / min

[MattP]

Vote: IceGuy

Freudian slip with the town/scum bs and then his last post was useless fluff; he could just look through the thread

[MattP]

Prob true, I misread as only the last surviving mime wins. Never mind.

unvote

p-edit: Iceguy is the most obvious mime for his stupid fabricated scumslip and he should be vigged so that the mimes can feel cry over the fact the iceguy ruined the game for them in the first five pages

p-edit2: That's a fail strategy, we should treat mimes like the SK and PL them after we have vigged one

[MattP]

No, when I said "I'm scum" I wasn't scum being truthful. I just forgot to add the word "not".

No, then you would have corrected yourself to "not scum*" rather than "town*"

Also, me being confused about the dynamics of the game =/= me opportunistically pushing lynches.

[MattP]

TML is my strongest townread. If anyone is lynching him to make this day move faster then take your vote off of him.

[MattP]

That reads too blatant to be scum. Reads more VI/mime

I'll be able to sleep a lot better at night (phase) knowing that the mimes can't win. Just remember that mimes want you to think they're scum

Most likely to be mimes: Iceguy, Jahhog, Milk

vote: izakthegoomba

Every post he has made is BS fluff. Doesn't read like "I'm trying to be obvscum" though so he is probscum. How about we start this wagon up again?

[MattP]

EBWOP: My first line is in response to BBmolla's quote

Can we please see how izak flips? I'll bet money on it being a scumflip

[MattP]

What if I told you I was a Mime-Mafia double agent Matt

Also, Mimes probably only have 2-3 amongst them due to the fact that if one is nk'd they all leave the game.

What if I told you I was a traveler's agent BBmolla? And that I could get you a good-priced flight to Santa Barbara?

Yes, and I think that of the probtwo remaining, they are contained within the johhog/iceguy/milk group. I think people that settle at the bottom of the tank/most scummy are probmime and that people who float right above that are probscum.

[MattP]

Honestly Mimes should just claim and we should just lynch them. I don't believe there is any incentive for us not to lynch them, they'll just get in the way.

That means they get to share in the town win for doing nothing, nty

Chrono, 26 players have posted. So, let's proceed with the izak lynch.

[MattP]

Matt stop claiming scum. Name one reason why we shouldn't let Mimes win.

If I offered to you for your favorite sports team could win their championship but only if they shared it with another team, do you think the majority of sports fans would say yes? Get back to me on that.

[MattP]

Matt stop claiming scum. Name one reason why we shouldn't let Mimes win.

Actually, trying to shut someone up who disagrees with you. Probscum.

vote: BBmolla

[MattP]

actually

@mod: what happens to mimes if they are unable to complete their win con?

they leave

@mod: Can you confirm or deny that Mimes end the game when they meet their wincon?

I can confirm that.

[MattP]

Sorry, EBWOP: You initially said they just leave. I am confused.

[MattP]

Derp derp, ok, also I am only voting BBmolla.

[MattP]

unvote

vote: redff

[MattP]

Fritzler is town.

Also, Fritzler, vote redff

[MattP]

Spyrex, thoughts on BBmolla?

[MattP]

Myko, your vote count is absowrong

[MattP]

Fritzler is town.

Also, Fritzler, vote redff

Help lynch mini librarian. Then we can kill redff.

He's my strongest townread. Absolutely not. However, it seems like you'll get support for it either way.

Lynch targets before the day ends:
Izak
BBmolla
Redff

Kk everyone?

[MattP]

Red I can understand. Why BB? Why me?

All your posts are fluff and you deserve to die for it.

BBmolla is playing his typical aggressive, domineering scum self like he did last time he was scum. Tried to shut me up for a difference of opinion from him

p-edit Luffy: I don't want them to win because I'm a sore winner. I didn't consider tricking them into claiming.

[MattP]

EBWOP: Also, I found the post where he says he would push his lynch if he weren't an important role scummy. There is no town intention in that. If he is town then scum will mafia kill him. If he is scum then he is doing it so that people don't try and lynch him.

[MattP]

Nope, BBmolla is scum, he has walked and talked like a duck so he is one. If he wasn't his typical scum aggressive self I wouldn't be so adamant.

[MattP]

Actually it's pretty obvious that I'm a mime and you just foiled my plans

o no dont lynch me

Nope, you're scum hiding behind a mime claim so that we don't lynch you

[MattP]

I refuse to believe that BBmolla is mime because then he would be playing against his wincon since he just made himself a prime target for the vig tonight, meaning he just lost the game for mimes if he is one.

BBmolla is scum and he dies today.

[MattP]

*sigh*

Let's vig BBmolla tonight instead.

Izak is still scum.

[MattP]

people need to stop freaking out about mimes because iceguy already fucked up and made himself obvious so we can basically avoid lynching him and mimes can't win

Stop being dumb, we vig BBmolla tonight because he obv claimed.

Then if he doesn't flip mime we vig iceguy the next day.

p-edit: elaborate, izak

[MattP]

ALSO I CALLED TML BEING TOWN BUT NO NOONE LISTENS TO MATT

p-edit: Johhog is not town. Guaranteed now.

Izak may be scum pretending to be a mime to save his ass from a lynch today. Discuss.

p-edit AGAIN: No I will not advocate my own lynch, congrats on a dumb question

[MattP]

Can I just say that mimes make this game impossible?

[MattP]

p-edit: Johhog is not town. Guaranteed now.

100% agreed.

K good, you're derptown.

Matt, the best move for scum is to lurk d1, especially in this game. Not WIFOM claim Mime/Mafia. If you think I'm scum, you must also assume I am retarded.

I am bosstown and you shouldn't fakeclaim mime and not expect me to tunnel you to your death for it.

p-edit: Fuck you're town. I fucking hate you.

[MattP]

Johhog is now guaranteed mime. Vig him tonight. GG mime.

[MattP]

Yeah, fuck it. Izak is scum.

VOTE: Izak

p-edit: Johhog, the response to petapan saying he is scummy reads town to me.

p-edit2: Chevre, I just wanted to toot my horn for a good read, especially since it was a gut read

p-edit3: I've been thinking spyrex is scummy for awhile, but I only have my gut to say that. I'd like to see concrete reasoning as to why before I vote for him. Either way, I think he is a dangerous player and it wouldn't hurt to get rid of him now.

p-editWHATEVER: EVERYONE NEEDS TO DIE SO THAT THIS GAME MOVES MORE SLOWLY

p-edit: Call, we have to focus on mimes first for obvious reasons. Would you like me to explain them to you?

[MattP]

Peta is town btw

Yep, pretty obv

Actually, I am for a spyrex lynch today based off of gut. After Izak.

[MattP]

Alright, thanks redFF.

~~

I'm kind of getting the impression Johhog is playing up a bit to maintain his Mime image enabling to avoid being lynched, which could be a mafia tell. Would be a good play if his scumteam had a Doctor.

I was thinking about that as a strat but it's a fail one, because as soon as the mimes fail and /out he will be left for dead.

[MattP]

I don't think they're ludicrous . But I'm looking at individual people rather than interactions.

If anybody can make sense out of spyrex's last vote please tell me. I don't see him voting Redff on anything but policy.

his other vote made no sense either.

He's playing a careful, apathetic, intelligent game and riding on the fact that everyone respects him so that he doesn't have to put in a lot of effort. Seems scum-driven. I can't point out specific examples but it's scumtastic collectively.

[MattP]

Cool, Muffin is a smart townie. I agree with all of his reads other than Fritzler.

[MattP]

Also, izak is not a mime so he is very confortably scum to me.

p-edit: Only paranoid for you, SpyreX babe

[MattP]

REDFF IS TOWN BECAUSE THE LAST PLAYER TO ROLECLAIM VT WAS LYNCHED. REDFF IF SCUM WOULD NOT MAKE THAT CHOICE WHEN IT JUST CONDEMNED SOMEONE. HE HAS NO REASON TO ROLECLAIM VT FROM A TOWN PERSPECTIVE. GET THE FUCK OFF OF HIM.

[MattP]

GET THE FUCK OFF OF RED

[MattP]

HE HAS NO REASON TO CLAIM IT FROM A SCUM PERSPECTIVE*

[MattP]

Thank you so much. Woo, that was close.

Now let's get izak. Just because we have 5 lynches a day does not mean we should waste them because we're impulsive.

[MattP]

O also because I'm such obvtown I hope a doc will protect me tonight because, much against what I had planned, I am becoming very invested in this round.

[MattP]

Wait before hammering, I'm going to make a more coherent case on izak.

p-edit: Muffin, I think that was a one-time basis. It was directly after a previous VT claimer that died and obviously now that I've pointed it out it's not something we can use anymore but red it obvtown.

[MattP]

k. I've just played a few mm games with him and haven't had any trouble so I just wanted to know why people didn't like him.

Anyway let's keep this going.

chesskid

p-edit: L-1

Please someone hammer before he gets in.

Beep. Beep. Fake vote alert.

If you think someone is being opportunistic about his lynch then why the fuck are you still on his wagon?

Lots of fluff form izak, basically every post. I don't have a lot of concrete examples of izak posting scummy things because his fluff is what is scummy.

Basically no scumhunting, other than calling BB's backtrack on a mim claim wifom

I'll hammer most wagons.

Lolwtf this is icing on the izakISscum cake.

p-edit: Zdenek, it was his response to peta about admitting he looked scummy after aggressively calling me derptown, it seems like a town progression of thought from him, but I'm starting to think I may have been letting him slide too quickly with that.

[MattP]

WTF T-bone? You're letting me down here. That was a sad post by you.

[MattP]

T-bone, peta is easily one of the five most towny players in the game, and his response to your scumread on him moves him to the top three for me.

[MattP]

T-bone, peta is so sure that he is town and that we have no reason to doubt him that he is insulted that you came into the game without even reading it, said he's scum, and proposed a horrible voting block.

I would have had the same rxn. You're being very fuckin scummy.

[MattP]

T-bone, you sore that I abolished my "intuition meta"?

[MattP]

These are the only players that should be on a voting block:

petapan
Hoopla
Callforjudgment
Muffin Wednesday
Chevre
redFF

T-bone, how da fuck have you proven yourself townie in any form?

[MattP]

Actually, scratch off Chevre.

[MattP]

I really don't have much to say to you Matt. You're just another player flooding this thread with

nonscumhunting nonsense

. I bold for emphasis in case you don't understand what you're doing...or rather not doing.

Oh, didn't see this. Go fuck yourself.

Vote: T-bone

Had a fucking voting block made, a block that he would trust 100% as town, before he even really read the thread. Do I really need to explain why that's scummy?

[MattP]

T-bone is not a mime, he wouldn't try making a voting block if he were a mime because voting blocks lead to self preservation. He is scum as shit.

[MattP]

T-bone, I know you well. I know how you act as scum. You're presumptuous and post demeaning, "I art better than thou" posts. This is no different than usual. When you flip scum I'll take your head and place it above my fireplace.

[MattP]

I didn't accidentally hammer right?

No.

Vote T-bone, I GUARANTEE he's scum.

[MattP]

You have done NONE scumhunting, all you've done is post useless lists. You're such hypocritical scum.

[MattP]

Lulz. JoaT here. Awesome powerz. Glad you lynched me?

Assuming you've not noticed what I've been saying, I'd take this as a pretty conclusive town tell.

You're not dead (I think).

^this

If one of your powers is to dayvig, izak, then davig T-bone, he's scum and he just compiled a list of all of his reads, which will prove very helpful when he flips scum.

[MattP]

THIS. So much this. Can the 'One-Line Post Peanut Gallery' stop posting or perhaps...and bare with me, this is a crazy idea...stop posting or GASP scumhunt. Either or would be fine.

OMG…. *GASP*.

How do you prefer people should scumhunt, sir? By taking random.org, generating random numbers, and then blocking them? Excellent technique, I must say.

Fucking vote obvious T-bone scum

I know his meta and this is him as scum, plus he made a voting block without reading more than 5 pgs of the thread.

[MattP]

Ok let's SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. Am I dead? Should I be dead? If I'm not dead am I about to be speedwagonned into the deadthread? What has Kairyuu done? Why T-Bone? Why the fuck are we not lynching UN already? And why, Trevor, do you think it is in any way pro-town for me to reveal any more? Hell, I wouldn't even have claimed if I thought I was alive.

I've explained why T-bone, ISO me and read like my last 10 posts.

[MattP]

Stop rolefishing guys, myko will reveal it when he returns.

[MattP]

T-bone, you have done NO scumhunting and I am thoroughly insulted that you hold yourself in high enough regard to say you are worth anything. If you follow your beliefs you should be policy lynching yourself for stupid list spam and trying to seem like you're scumhunting.

I can't wait when the

highly esteemed protown

people on your "voting block" lynch you when they get back.

[MattP]

thoroughly insulted

Really? This seems to be a bit far.

I was being snarky..

[MattP]

Yeah, and the third one is the one I played with him :/

[MattP]

I was trying to be conservative with my block and only place people I was 95% certain or higher they were town in it, and you fall below that.

[MattP]

^YYR is not a mime

[MattP]

Zdenek, my read on T-bone is in reference to a game that no longer exists due to the crash, with my fortune.

[MattP]

Let's just get this over with.

Intent to hammer if nobody objects in twenty minutes.

[MattP]

There are so many scum this round that they can easily influence (and they will) any attempt to lynch scum. I think a block of five pretty obvious town would actually be effective by this point to counteract this. We should also be looking at wagons that were quickly dissuaded.

[MattP]

There are so many scum this round that they can easily influence (and they will) any attempt to lynch scum. I think a block of five pretty obvious town would actually be effective by this point to counteract this. We should also be looking at wagons that were quickly dissuaded.

One scum joins the voting block. Influences every lynch. no.

Ok, here's the flaw with your retort. Currently ~10 of 40 players are scum and will control the lynch at a higher fraction than 1 of 5. Second, the whole point is that we can probably find 5 very townish players so far that have a much lower chance of containing scum than the obvious scum-containing current 40 players. Additionally, five players can't override the lynching process but they can have a significant say.

[MattP]

VOTE: BBmolla

[MattP]

Hoopla, I will go with spyrex with you.

[MattP]

Explain the SpyreX read too.

Matt you can explain SpyreX-Scum as well. Also why you'd go SpyreX with Hoopla when you're already on me with Hoopla.

I have a null on Spyrex. I've read his games before, most recently Gay Mafia, and when he is town I have townreads on him. I respect spyrex a lot as a player and I think I will probably never have an "Aha!" moment with him where he reads scum. My gut tells me that a null read on spyrex merits a lynch on him.

[MattP]

Hmm, just noticed that you idiots have managed to kill off 8 town players so far. Good fucking job, lmfao...

Incorrect, two town and six mimes.

[MattP]

Myko, I'm voting for T-bone

[MattP]

VOTE: T-bone

[MattP]

I think a lot of people are mistaking "I hate that there are 50 people in this game and I can't keep track of anything and until I can idgaf" with "I'm careless scum"

[MattP]

I'm careless scum Matt?

You basically just took the antithesis of what I was trying to say from what I said.

I'm saying that people being careless and inattentive right now is not a scumtell.

[MattP]

Waiting for a claim... that's pretty much all we need now..

Absolute fluff

Petapan looks pretty townish, if I have to say so myself.

Some other people, though...

VOTE: Milk

This reads as an incredibly opportunistic vote with no actual reasoning.

funkybike1 is scum

VOTE: funkybike1

[MattP]

Lol someone do an isis of funkybike1 and tell me that he is not lurker opportunistic scum.

[MattP]

EBWOP: ISO* fail

[MattP]

he's not very opportunistic right now no

What do you think of his vote on the milk wagon that has no reasoning other than, "some people though...vote: milk"?

[MattP]

Fine, but he's on my scumlist.

VOTE: T-bone

[MattP]

SpyreX actually is reading town with his nonchalance regarding his potential lynch, and I think the people on him should just go for t-bone duh

[MattP]

ITT MattP falls for SpyreX's pro buddying skills like a complete patsy

It has nothing to do with the buddying, he's been buddying me this entire time.

[MattP]

Muffin, do you actually think SpyreX is scum? That was a pretty stupid vote imo.

[MattP]

I'd be fine with a Muffin or a T-bone lynch now. Muffin is making some shitty decisions that scream scum. I really dislike his SpyreX vote.

[MattP]

The only reason spy would sacrifice himself for t-bone is if he thinks t-bone would be more useful to town.

Is that the case, Spy?

[MattP]

I agree wth Luffy about the scum derailing the T-bone wagon. Scum lynches at this point will be considerably hard to pull off due to huge scumteams and a lot of easy scapegoats.

[MattP]

7 out of 7 of those possibilities are stupid, but I won't tell you which 7.

[MattP]

"If you try to argue this any further, I will vote you, and will do everything in my power to make sure you are lynched."

^Scum trying to shut another player up with threats. I see no town motivation in this threat.

[MattP]

Scum Team A:
T-bone

Scum Team B:
Luffy

Someone dayvig Luffy please.

[MattP]

Actually, let's do this and get this fucking day over with

VOTE: Luffy

[MattP]

Cool, T-bone's vote on Luffy seems town. I am happy. More Luffy votes please.

[MattP]

this luffy thing seems scum-driven

as in, t-bone/spyrex driven

just saiyan

Can you give reasons why? Because you seem like scum trying to drive off a wagon on your scumbuddy.

[MattP]

VOTE: T-bone

Rather get rid of T-bone after his interaction with Amrun. He is playing rude, agressive scum like the game I played with him that was deleted.

[MattP]

I will go through his posts this game and post reasons why he is scum, but right now it's very gut. However, I'm sure since it's such a strong gut feeling there will be some logical explanations to back it up.

[MattP]

vote: T-bone

[MattP]

Lynch targets for the day:
BBmolla
T-bone
Luffy
funkybike1

Good plan?

[MattP]

I already explained funkybike1. He has like a 5 post ISO, you can easily see it for yourself

[MattP]

...

Kondi, he has 4 fluff posts and one scummy post. The scummy post is the one where he votes Milk with the most scummy transition to the vote ever. It clear as day. >.>

[MattP]

Mykonian, pretty sure only 40 players are left

yup, corrected

[MattP]

YYR is useless.

Hoopla is town and will not be killed for an obv stupid tell.

Let's not prolong the lynch on T-bone pls, a T-bone flip would tell us more than any arguably any other flip right now.

[MattP]

Wp? Wtf is that

[MattP]

Wtf did I just waste my time on?

[MattP]

I would like some clarification on whether or not this game is over

[MattP]

I'd probably feel the same way from the other side.

PEdit: It was likely many of us would be nightkilled, making it harder. I unno.

Do not try to take credit for a bastard team where you already had 6 of 10 needed votes.

This round was an absolute waste of my time. -5

[MattP]

I don't see why so many people are surprised, I mean there were mimes in this game, and look at it this way, if T-Bone had gotten night killed we would have lost. That's why it made no sense that were so few kills.

I don't think a six-person team in a game where, maximum, ten people are even needed for a lynch, deserve credit. No, I don't think I'm being a sore loser, I'm just angry that time was wasted and that people on the lyncher team are trying to justify it being a worthwhile victory.

[MattP]

But what if a Vig took him out?

One person died last night. Also, that doesn't change the fact that you guys had a MAJOR advantage, and don't act like you didn't.

[MattP]

Did anyone actually FOS T-bone? People were just voting him because they thought it was inevitable.

I thought T-bone was scum. I am a VT.

[MattP]

I literally hate you. Literally.

[MattP]

Well you got town to roleclaim instead, so suck it.

[MattP]

It was so freaking OBVIOUS we were lying though...

I just assumed mykonian would have been a big enough jerk to do that (no offense myko)

[MattP]

Look at all the people that believed it. And look at how you're attacking me, but not BB.

I obviously hate BB too

p-edit: I DON'T KNOW STAEG WHATEVER

[MattP]

YOU KNOW WHAT FUCK THIS SHIT

VOTE: REDFF

FUCKING DIE YOU ANNOYING ^&*$

[MattP]

Absolutely not, I am sick of his fucking annoying attitude where he pushes you for no reason and I want to stomp him with my shoe until he's pulp and it's going to fucking happen. I demand a policy lynch on this useless fucker Redff that has done nothing but bitch this entire game since kondi was revealed.

[MattP]

PEdit: He does this all the time. Now you know why he was a PL candidate earlier in the game?

I demand he has it beat out of him. We can have a PL D2 when we have 4 lynches. Let's get him out.

[MattP]

Yeah, let's policy lynch more obvious townies, because that works wonders for the town.

He is absolutely fucking useless. I demand that he agrees to at least get the fuck over his kondi issue. Then I will be fine. But if he continues being a useless 2-d turd I will not shut up until he's gone.

[MattP]

PeregrineV is scum after reading his ISO.

RedFF, fuck you and I will be on your ass until you stop badgering kondi, so cut it off

VOTE: PeregrineV

[MattP]

Nope stickin with the plan

VOTE: BBmolla

[MattP]

Fucking shit I really hate you BB

VOTE: Amrun

Come my little bunnies theamatuer and BBmolla

[MattP]

Mislynch wagons:

Spoiler:

Chesskid:
Captain Corporal, Agar, Johhog, theamatuer, Hoopla, Izakthegoomba, Iceguy, Fritzler, the mini-librarian, Milk

Mini-Librarian:
syndromeofadown, Rhinox, Amrun, hoopla, T-bone, Fritzler, Imaginality, Uberninja, Luffy, Elmo teh Azn

izak (who was saved)
Petapan, milk, mattp, Elmo teh Azn, BBmolla, Muffin Wednesday, chronopie, Spyrex, t-bone, Kairyuu


Moneybags
imaginality, TechnoWC, callforjudgement, T-bone, Rhinox, redff, Ellibereth, BBmolla, Fritzler, Muffin Wednesday


Captain Corporeal
Ellibereth, peregrinev, BBmolla, YYR, Spyrex, imaginality, Rhinox, TechnoWC, SleepyKrew, T-Bone

T-bone
Amrun, theamateur, uberninja, kondi2424, mattp, luffy, Thetrollie, lowman, spyrex, Staeg

Living players and the amount of mislynches they were on:

Spoiler:

Theamateur: 2
Hoopla: 2
Fritzler: 3
Milk: 2
Syndromeofadown: 1
Rhinox: 3
Amrun: 2
UN: 2
Luffy: 1
Elmo: 2
Petapan:1
MattP: 2
BBmolla: 3
Kondi: 3
Chronopie: 1
SpyreX: 2
Kairyuu: 1
Techo: 2
Callforjudgement: 1
RedFF: 1
Ellibereth: 2
Peregrine: 1
YYR: 1
Sleepykrew: 1
TheTrollie: 1
Lowman: 1
Staeg: 1

Perhaps players that have tried to keep their hands clean (not be on any mislynches) should be ISOd. There are about ten of them.

[MattP]

Techno, I'll respond tonight in like 15 hours-ish. I won't be available until then.

[MattP]

Kondis vote on luffy is scum trying to justify an opportunistic mislynch by over explaining himself. Discuss.

[MattP]

Wut? I am saying your vote on luffy is opportunistic and is too wordy to be town. Your retort is also scummy because you focused on some stupid arbitrary thing I didn't even say

VOTE: kondi

[MattP]

No, you said I was pushing for Luffy's mislynch, when I said that I don't think Luffy will be lynched based on what he's saying. I'll take whatever you're smoking.

Why the fuck would you vote someone you think won't be lynched that's a waste of a vote

"I'll take what you're smoking" confirms you're scum. Lol that was the easiest it's ever been to find scum

[MattP]

Youre welcome everyone I just did this all from my phone

[MattP]

Nope you're scum and don't point at your record thinking that changes it bud. Also I was involved in one of your three losses and I intend to go 2-0 against you

[MattP]

Already explained and your insistence on me beig high isn't helping your case

Pedit: spyrex goes after kondi

I am willing to go 1 v 1 on kondi I am that fuckin sure and I am willing to wear my shame if I'm wrong

[MattP]

I'm not misinterpreting I explaine vey clearly and I'm not playing "kondi time"

[MattP]

Your luffy vote was scummy because you were rig opportunistic, used dumb reasoning for a vote, and talked too much. Your retort to this was idiotic in that you said you are good at beig scum so can't make mistakes and that I am high.

Spyrex do you think kondi is scum?

[MattP]

Matt,

Luffy is the kind of lynch that if I cant get it through RIGHT NOW its going to take the moons aligning for it to happen again. Work with me and we can make something beautiful. UN, Amrun, Kondi? Dead.

I'm right about this one we can start running roughshod and forge a masterpiece through fire and flames.

Kondi is on drugs and needs to go. I'd say hes more likely t o be town than luffy but work with me it doesnt matter. Theyre all deaddd

If I agree to Luffy you agree to Kondi, Amrun and UN, deal? And Kondi and UN happen today, Amrun can happen tomorrow. Deal?

[MattP]

K

VOTE: Luffy

I don't waste time with obv scum kondi silly bear!

pedit:Zdenek, newp

[MattP]

Matt, you honestly suck at this game. Which is sad, because I thought you were good at first.

Nope, you're scum. And all your ways of dealing with me feeling that way about you don't help (are you high, look at my scum record, and now that I scum). YOU suck, whatever the fuck your alignment is. Your tactics are terrible. And if you're town you are bad town cuz you don't know how to look like it.

[MattP]

now that I suck*

[MattP]

So yes, you are misunderstanding. I voted Luffy believing that he would not die when he was lynched, as I assumed he had claimed that. You assumed that I was scum for the opportunistic vote, and when I explained it a SECOND time, you ignored it once again and declared me caught. Hence why I called you crazy and pointed at my stats, which show that even if the vote was opportunistic, it would be unlikely for me as scum.

Why would you try to lynch someone who you think could not be lynched?

If that's true then it wasn't an opportunistic vote, it was just a stupid one, but it WAS an unnecessarily wordy vote and that's scummy.

I think you calling me high as a retort instead of being level-headed, you pointing to your stats, and your personal attack are all scummy (and I don't always think personal attacks are scummy).

[MattP]

@Matt: So you have me making a wordy vote and a personal attack as why I'm scum. Fair enough, but both of those are things that are arguably not scumtells.

Lets have a civilized conversation. Could you explain what was scummy about my personal attack?

Saying "are you high" is a way of trying to make a person with points against you look stupid or to shut them up. That's scummy.

[MattP]

I thought you understood what I was saying about why I decided to vote Luffy, so I didn't get what you were saying at all. Hence, the "are you high" stuff.

I understand WHY you said it, I just understand it from a scum perspective.

[MattP]

Nope spyrex made a deal with me, amrun goes after un and kondi

[MattP]

Crap, i was expecting a three day 'night', so now I come back to a shitstorm of >20 pages, and two mislynches.

Anyone got a tl;dr?

tl;dr kondi is scum

Actually, let's start on kondi

VOTE: Kondi

Switch yo vote spyrex kthx

[MattP]

Lol lets just kill spyrex he is so fuckin scummy kondi has been more town lately.

Also his town read on t bone read that he already knew his alignment.

VOTE: spyrex

Yes I'm indecisive what of it? I'm sticking with this vote until spyrex is lynched though

[MattP]

If you lynch me, will you guys do me the favor of at least trying to get a group and forge through some of these lynches that need to happen?

Lawl you just are trying to appear to be a martyr with this

[MattP]

the votes on kondi are stupid

move them to chevre

Nope, SpyreX thx

[MattP]

a) spyrex has promised content
b) spyrex is much better of a player than chevre
c) if spyrex doesn't come through, we lynch him
d) DID YOU SEE how chevre freaked out w/2 votes
e) i like you and all, don't make me get out my sword

a) that doesnt mean the content he's given isn't scummy
b) that means he is a bigger threat
c) nope, he knows he's gonna be gone soon, everything he gives now is going to be WIFOM galore
d) yea, spyrex goes first
e) bite me
f) I very much see spyrex being so pro-tbone-town because he knew tbone was town because he was scum.

[MattP]

callforjudgement is also very obv scum for hiding behind the votecounts to provide no content

He's not "hiding behind the votecounts," he agreed to doing the votecounts before the thread even began so it's obvious that the votecounts are a complete null. Him posting the votecounts has nothing to do with the game...

[MattP]

This post gave me cancer

Your attack on Chevre was really bad, Trollie.

Eh, he's a newb, he's still learning.

Trollie, don't worry your lil head off, just switch to SpyreX.

[MattP]

VOTE: kondi

[MattP]

Redff I would like to neuter you. Shut your little obnoxious trap.

[MattP]

I know I'm indecisive but kondi is town he wouldn't give red the satisfaction of knowing he was right and his last post would do that.

unvote:kondi

[MattP]

Post 1993 that is

[MattP]

Nope sorry you're both town red is an idiot and everyone knows that and wishes he wasn't here but we can do anything about it. He is just going to unfortunately have to live with knowing he is incredibly useless and unlovable and that he is the worst thing that has happened to this game and you're going to have to live with knowing that he's that way and that we are on your side. We deal with mosquitos. We deal with red. Kk?

[MattP]

Oh yeah I forgot I am fine with a funky bike lynch and it should happen today.

[MattP]

Of only we could callforjudgment if only we could.

If anyone quits it should be Redff, if he had any compassion.

Spyrex kondi is just a fairly emotional player. It doesn't make him scum.

[MattP]

Not to spam but in your next post if you want red to stop playing over kondi say so so that his pulsing little ego can shrivel

VOTE: funkybike

[MattP]

I'm not playing with this asshole anymore. Lynch me, then lynch NS. NS

IS

scum.

THIS post confirms Kondi as town and if anyone tries to kill him they are opportunistic scum. Stop wasting your fucking votes. Most scum are going to be contained in the lurkers. Haven't you noticed that only the loud players have been targeted so far? Haven't you noticed the ones that were successfully lynched have all flipped town? Don't you think scum has noticed this? Funkybike is dying today, and if he doesn't then you are all idiots. ISO him and tell me you think he's town. That is all fuckers.

[MattP]

I am not saying that lurking is usually a scumtell, but by this point, yes, it is. We should be killing off the lurkers before we are stuck in lylo with a bunch of unreadable players and all of the loud players with a bunch of content that could be looked through killed off. We are fucking ourselves over! UN is not dying today, Chevre is not dying today, BBmolla is not, SpyreX is not, and all of the other loud players. Let's kill lurkers now when we can rather than being stuck in a horrible situation later.

If we lose because we don't do this I WILL laugh at all of you at the end of this round for not listening.

[MattP]

zoraster, dramonic, funkybike and lowman. They are all dying next. Today will be lowman and funkybike. I don't remember if he have a third kill but if we do then we should kill zoraster.

I want an active voting bloc so that this can be done.

p-edit: Trevor, we can kill Milk too. I will make a deal with you. You help me kill funkybike and I'll help you kill milk. Then we kill lowman. Ok?

[MattP]

Why we should kill funkybike:

Every post he has made is absolute fluff. We will NEVER get content from him. We will NEVER be able to figure out his alignment. If he makes it to lylo and is scum then we are fucked. We actually have to PL him. Also, his vote on Milk has no reasoning and when I pressured him for it he ignored me. I want him dead.

[MattP]

WTF BBMOLLA START A NEW FUCKING WAGON WITH ME AGAINST FUNKYBIKE READ MY REASONS DONT BE DUMB

[MattP]

Noone even cares in this game. Absolute bullshit. Just lynch me.

[MattP]

If we all just agree to zip through the lurkers over the next 3 days we can kill off 12 lurker players in 3 days and then move onto an actual fucking game with 26 players that don't feel overwhelmed. There are absolutely bound to be scum in the 12-most lurkers. It would be a great move, but noone will fucking listen to me.

[MattP]

My idea. Start from the living player with the least amount of posts, kill them, and progressively move up to the player with the 12th least amount of posts.

[MattP]

Lynch order:
1) Robotnick2
2) Zoraster
3) Funkybike1
4) Sykedoc
5) Lowman
6) Mastermind of sin
7) Milk
8) Zajnet
9) Chronopie
10) PeregrineV
11) YYR
12) Kairyuu (if not replaced)
13) Manho (if Kairyuu replaced)


I am not down with any other lynches, including hoopla, spyrex and chevre. They can wait. We need to start this now before the idea is swept under the rug.

VOTE: Robotnick2

[MattP]

I would laugh if all of the scum were in the 12 lurkers.

[MattP]

Yes, and in a game of 50 people scum can be quiet and easily win and at least some will do this. This isn't a 13 player game redff.

Also, I'm obvtown and you thinking otherwise is insulting to your intelligence.

[MattP]

Also, I'm obvtown and you thinking otherwise is insulting to your intelligence.

wat

You understood exactly what I said. I am more obvtown than anyone else in this game and you thinking otherwise is incredibly insulting and degrading to your being.

[MattP]

Even though redff is town I regret saving him from a lynch d1.

More people on the wagon pls.

[MattP]

Dear god town does not say this.

Clearly they do dumbass.

[MattP]

Just saying, if there is any more than one scum in the 12 most inactive players scum will be against the idea of it. Don't be fooled by that.

[MattP]

I'm back.

MattP, scum are naturally against anything that hurts scum.

So how do you feel about us lynching you?

[MattP]

Ellibereth votes: Robotnick

Cool.

[MattP]

We will never lynch 10 of those 12 lurkers because they dont say anything scummy or towny. The last 15 players will consist of 10 lurkers. If there are scum in those lurkers it will be a crapshoot then to figure out which ones are scum and we will probably lose.

[MattP]

How does it read town exactly

Also we are not skipping people on the lynch list because they promise to be more active. Everyone will say that.

[MattP]

Additionally robot how the fuck was in fun for you when you only posted a resounding three times?

[MattP]

I am fine with any order ot the list list of lurkers as long as we lynch them.

VOTE: Milk

[MattP]

VOTE: funkybike1

[MattP]

Fine.

TARGET: SpyreX

[MattP]

I'm complaining to Myk after the game, the lack of nightkills/daykills really fucked this game.

[MattP]

^

[MattP]

Still anything to get you out

[MattP]

Lol

[MattP]

I'd prod dodge but there's no such thing as that this round! Woo!

/lack of interest

[MattP]

I don't even care if he is scum

vote: Fritzler

[MattP]

Guys, gotye is replacing in for me, he's somebody I used to know.

[MattP]

staeg
LowMan
uberninja
Sleepykrew (if his claim is legit)
BBMolla
spyrex
syndromeofadown
MattP
Kairyuu
Callforjudgment
Ellibereth
Kondi2424
Chevre
Trevor

^Voting bloc to final 14? If there are more than 2 scum in this list I would be shocked so this would leave us fine and dandy for final 14.

[MattP]

I don't think we should be doing a voting bloc just yet. Maybe when we get to 25-30 players left.

I think you're wrong.

[MattP]

VOTE: Manho

[MattP]

I'm fine with a BB lynch.

VOTE: BB

[MattP]

I'll be more contributory when we get to the final 20, just an fyi.

[MattP]

VOTE: SpyreX

[MattP]

I want BB, SpyreX and Hoopla dead. At least one is scum.

[MattP]

P.S. as far as I'm concerned, Amrun gets a free pass for at least 5-10 more lynches.

[MattP]

V/LA for a few days, as I'm SCUM

orly?

The only way I wouldn't consider this a complete scumslip is if you voted SpyreX rite nao

[MattP]

Idk I'm sick of so many people and am just trying to bullshit people into voting off SpyreX so that this game can move along.

[MattP]

I think Trollie just doesnt care, before anyone jumps on that wagon.

[MattP]

does not caring make him town, though?

fritzler pretty blatantly didn't care either

No it doesn't, but it doesn't make him scum. We can lynch him in fear that he will ride the nullness to lylo, but it is not a scumtell, e is just exhibiting his lack of care in a less explicit way than stating "I don't care about this game" as some others have done.

[MattP]

Fucking vote Spyrex

[MattP]

Can we lynch funkybike tomorrow at least?

[MattP]

I am without a computer until tonight. Just an fyi as to why I've been MIA

[MattP]

I am a daycop. I investigated SpyreX right now and he came up inno. I had investigated NS yesterday and he came up guilty. I didn't want to roleclaim this early but Idgaf.

UNVOTE: SpyreX

If NS flips scum you can lynch me next.