The game of the year: town won!
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In post 165, The Mini-Librarian wrote:URRRRRRRRRGH.
I was told Chesskid was a good policy lynch. I voted for him.I take complete responsibility for that.
I brought up the "Chesskid was as good as dead thing" because I was accused of being opportunistic. Which is just false.
You know what have been more opportunistic for me? Not posting. Because I wouldn't have to expose myselfandChess would be dead.
So are you guys really voting me for asking why we are policy lynching someone and then going along with it?
(as of now, I'm on page 7)
This post is really stupid and is hellofa scummy. "Oh dear, woe is me!" Pulling the old WIFOM , and the whole tone seems like it's horrible.
If nothing happens when I reach the end, I'm voting you. Just a fair warning.
Well, then again, you might be a mime. Which would be fucked up.
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In post 192, MattP wrote:In post 190, BBmolla wrote:Honestly Mimes should just claim and we should just lynch them. I don't believe there is any incentive for us not to lynch them, they'll just get in the way.
That means they get to share in the town win for doing nothing, nty
Why did you shut down such a good plan before you even knew that Mimes end game when they all meet their win condition? Like, shit it right down? Why can't you at least entertain it for a while, so maybe the mimes claim, and we then decide to not lynch them?
In post 225, mykonian wrote:In post 205, Moneybags wrote:@mod: Can you confirm or deny that Mimes end the game when they meet their wincon?
I can confirm that.
This. Game. Just. Went. Psycho.
PS: I'm caught up-
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I think the mod's vote count is missing imaginality's vote then?-
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In post 313, UberNinja wrote:I am not opposed to an izak death either.
And why aren't you opposed to a BB lynch?
Also, sorry, but did I miss you're other happy-to-go for the ride lynch? Because theeitherseems to imply that.-
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In post 328, UberNinja wrote:Why the HELL are peoplejustifying votes on other peoplewith "Keeping my word" and "I keep my promises"?
It's a fucking50-player gameand I'll be damned if you need to justifyanythingon Day 1.
FOS on Fritzler and Fluffy. Fuckin fucks.
Oh good, so I won't be looking completely retarted if I just go around voting for people? Yea, because that is not suspicious at all. It's all because this is Day 1 and there are 50 players. I don't have to justifyanything.
PS: I forgot to mention. I think you made a wrong turn on Mafia Boulevard back there.-
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In post 347, Johhog wrote:In post 331, BBmolla wrote:In post 327, MattP wrote:p-edit: Johhog is not town. Guaranteed now.
100% agreed.
K good, you're derptown.
Matt, the best move for scum is to lurk d1, especially in this game. Not WIFOM claim Mime/Mafia. If you think I'm scum, you must also assume I am retarded.
Scum right there.
Explain please. Because this looks like you're throwing shit in the air. Which it probably is, not matter what you're going to say. Also, keep that in mind when you answer. If I hear shit, I'm voting.
And that's a promise. I kept my last one-
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In post 371, YYR wrote:Is petapan a redFF alt?
Haaha lol this made me laugh
Yea. Just wanted to point that out. Nothing to say in this second. Maybe in a second or two I will-
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tl;dr
Actually, you should probably be acting less scummy if you're town. Kthx.-
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In post 384, BBmolla wrote:Red and Izak, thoughts on both.
If Izak is town, he should probably stop talking. Or maybe he is town because he keeps talking? Or maybe he is scum who wants us to think he is town for keeping on talking? I'll try to make up my mind soon.
Red should probably be lynched. Just because he would analyze the people on his wagon good.-
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In post 541, T-Bone wrote:THIS. So much this. Can the 'One-Line Post Peanut Gallery' stop posting or perhaps...and bare with me, this is a crazy idea...stop posting or GASP scumhunt. Either or would be fine.
OMG…. *GASP*.
How do you prefer people should scumhunt, sir? By taking random.org, generating random numbers, and then blocking them? Excellent technique, I must say.-
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In post 572, Kairyuu wrote:In post 561, izakthegoomba wrote:Kairyuu, what have you done?
I have done things. Glorious things. Things that will be revealed whenever myko logs back on.
Long story short I sent an action to the mod that would cause your lynch to fail and something else to happen instead. As for what happened instead, I would have to be an IDIOT to reveal that before the mod comes back. If it worked, and I was right, good things happen. If it didn't work, I'll try again. If it worked but I was wrong, oh well.
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In post 579, T-Bone wrote:@Luffy - I dunno, by analyzing posts and or not spamming the thread with one-line BS? Or asking questions for meaningful discussion? That'd be a good start. Page 23...I see none of that happening. A little discussion about Izak's impending lynch/not lynch, some One-Liners, and some bandwagon hoppers because it's "cool" I suppose. I'd like someone to go through Page 23 and quote every single scumhunting post...because I don't see a single one. That's not a slight to Callfor, Izak, Trevor, or Kairyuu, since they are talking about the Izak lynch. So I got a question for you, what have you done in terms of scumhunting or meaningful discussion?
In post 572, Kairyuu wrote:
I have done things. Glorious things.Things that will be revealed whenever myko logs back on.Probably not this
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In post 577, UberNinja wrote:why the fuck do you want me lynched, but you're voting t-bone, who was also voting for me?
looool
So, why are you suggesting I should be buddying?
Sorry, but a person who is randomly blocking and another who is suggesting that we go on the day randomly lynching peoplecanboth be scummy. Why is it wrong to want both of you on the witch burning list?-
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In post 587, UberNinja wrote:i'm saying what the oracle would say were she here: you need to make up your damn mind
what you are saying is inconsistent and thus puts you on *my* witch burning list
Unvote; Vote: Luffy
This is the conversation:
Uber: Blah blah blah. People shouldn't be justifying their votes Day1. More scummy stuff. Whatever.
Me: *votes*
T-bone: *votes Uber out of nowhere*
T-bone: Lalala. Let me throw these weird random.org blocks out there.
Me: o.O *votes T*
Uber: Oh lookie! He's voting the person who was voting with him against me! He must be scum!
You're suggesting that because T-bone was also agreeing with me on your vote, that I should see him as innocent? When he didn't justify his vote at all? Nor any of his lists? No, the enemy of my enemy isnotmy friend. You are not both mutually scummy. It's independent cases.
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In post 588, Muffin Wednesday wrote:Calling it a night.
This ^-
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In post 628, TeChNoWC wrote:
Not sure I like the T-Bone wagon. Is everyone hating on him for taking charge of town? Not something I mind, eagerness is better than sneakiness, and someone who can keep track of this game is a valuable asset.
No, everyone is hating him because of his failed and awkward attempt to take charge of town. Also, it's not a valuable asset to comfirm town all the way at the beginning of day 1 without explanations, and then throwing some scummy list and saying these are the people that should be lynched.-
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In post 636, TeChNoWC wrote:Anyone worth reading (other than T-Bone, obviously)? Fuck reading the whole thread at this stage, it would bore me to tears.
You should probably at least try skimming the thread, what is important to some people might be different than others.
But some critical events: The Chesskid lynch, the TML lynch, the failed Red lynch, the Izak lynch (which first went up, then down, and then moved up again), Kairyuu stopping it, the attention BB and to a lesser extent, UberNinja, have been getting, the somewhat small lynch wagons on them, the T-bone thing.
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In post 701, Hoopla wrote:That's why the mafia will be divided into two or three teams. I suspect two teams of 5-6. It doesn't make sense to have one giant scumteam that can bully through mislynches.
Agree. I was thinking of multiple scum factions also. I think it would be a huge overpower if there were like 10 people on the same team, no matter how much the player list is. They can pretty much control the whole game if they actually work well enough, and it is a lot harder for town to actually try making connections and getting reads even if a scum is lynched, since the huge scum team can pretty much just throw out too many different plays/strategies out there.
In post 705, Hoopla wrote:Anyone who cannot see that having a coalition in this game is stupid and makes no sense is automatically disqualified from being in charge of one.
Agree with this. That's 2/2 for Hoopla
Anyone who cannot see how turning this into a kingmaker game is stupid and defeats any chance of town to actually try and win, and is only counterproductive.
In post 708, Hoopla wrote:I'm starting a rival temporary coalition dedicated to the destruction of all other coalitions. Upon achievement of goal, we will promptly disband.
Accepting signups (1/10):
Hoopla
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In post 764, MattP wrote:There are so many scum this round that they can easily influence (and they will) any attempt to lynch scum. I think a block of five pretty obvious town would actually be effective by this point to counteract this. We should also be looking at wagons that were quickly dissuaded.
This is why I agree with Hoopla that it would make more sense for there to be multiple scum teams and/or have an SK or something as opposed to just one huge team of evilness.-
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In post 644, TeChNoWC wrote: Just looked into moneybags, nice scumread. He does nothing but push on wagons, and posts nothing else; no scumhunting, nothing. Just lynch hungry, and at worse, lynch hungry for a handful of people that he has given no indication for as to why they should be lynched.
Unvote
Vote: Moneybags
In post 653, TeChNoWC wrote:Inclined to think Milk might be a better lynch. Moneybags might not be giving reasons and seems to just be picking on randoms that give an appearance of scumminess, and seems like a pretty big non-contributor (plus yeah, buddying with BB is a concern), but Milk is behaving the same way. Gonna check the guys milk is after, but I swear it seems like a bussing tactic. He seems uber convinced Money is scum, and I could think of nothing better for a scum to do at this stage than lynch one of his buddies so he gets chucked in the town pool and forgotten.
Had a change of heart here, eh, but you still managed to keep your vote on money? *
*Also, note, since you thought it might be a bussing tactic, inclined to hear your thoughts about that.-
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Because I'm bored, here are the people who haven't posted at least once yet:
Zajnet
staeg
lupo
Zoraster
Gregory(We can cross him out, since he left as part of the mime)
If any of you guys above are actually following this, please check in. I get awfully lonely without company (yes, even though I have all the others talking I should say I would get less lonely).
In post 820, Trevor wrote:Why are people really doing read lists with 40 people in the game? I find it hard to believe you can "most definately town" read 7 people, especially people like redFF or Uber.
(Assuming you're referring to Muffin's post up there)
It seems pretty reasonable. I'm assuming that it's not really set in stone or anything, but just really defining different boundaries. Why is that unhelpful? With 40 people, isn't it somewhat helpful to at least try to group people into different regions? This is as bad as UN's "LOL! No one needs any justification for anything they do on Day 1" thing she threw out earlier.
I hate the fact that people are just basically shutting down any kind of helpful idea because "there are so many players". Did people signup to play random.org? If yes, by all means, continue. But please, make it clear that we won't be expecting anything serious from you in this game.-
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Still behind the UN lynch. Agree with BB in the it looks like he's tollolloling to try to slip and town. Also, when he is pressured, he is put into the "sigh, now I have to dowork" which also seems like trying to be slipping as town. There is some recent content, but it's kinda too little too late.
Actually, that might not be all true ^ I'm contemplating whether to stick behind the wagon or not. But I'm leaning towards that. I'll iso in a bit to see if I can make up my mind better, but for now, my vote will stick, because some good stuff seems to be coming out of the pressuring.
As for the people who are declaring him as town, explain please. Like CFJ, I am only mostly contemplating whether to get off the wagon or not because some people I trust are calling him town.-
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All right, since some people may not be able to catch up with so much stuff going on, I'll attempt to summarize because I'm bored and have some free time I'll try to be unbiased as I can.
TL;DR
First, people policy lynched ChessKid. Here was the lynch wagon:
----- Chesskid (10): Captain Corporal,Agar,Johhog, theamatuer, Hoopla,Izakthegoomba,Iceguy, Fritzle00BF40]the mini-librarian[/color], Milk
Rhinox suggested we cut the people down to 5 groups, and then lynch one person from each group.
ChessKid flips Mime. Mime win when all of the mimes are lynched. They are like a Jester group.
The Mini-Librarian is lynched. He flips VT. Lynch wagon:
---------- The mini-libarian (10): syndromeofadown, Rhinox, Amrun, hoopla, T-bone, Fritzler, Imaginality, Uberninja, Luffy, Elmo teh Azn
People jumped on Red. He got to L-1. Matt stopped the lynch. "REDFF IS TOWN BECAUSE THE LAST PLAYER TO ROLECLAIM VT WAS LYNCHED. REDFF IF SCUM WOULD NOT MAKE THAT CHOICE WHEN IT JUST CONDEMNED SOMEONE. HE HAS NO REASON TO ROLECLAIM VT FROM A TOWN PERSPECTIVE. GET THE FUCK OFF OF HIM."
People started jumping on BB for trolling, spamming, and bad vote justifications.
T-Bone comes in. Starts making (random?) blocks of people. See posts 443, 477, and 541.
People jump on Izak. He is lynched.
Kairyuu claims that Izak is not dead. Some time later the mod confirms this, and says that Izak was not lynched, but instead, Icedied. Ice flipped Mime. Since all of the Mimes can't win anymore (because Ice wasn't lynched), they rest leave (Gregory, Agar, Johhog and Izakthegoomba).
Imaginality starts a moneybags wagon in post 641. Techno jumps on, and says that he thinks Milk and money are both suspicious, and might be bussing.
Fritzler wants to make a coalition with the most town players to kinda control town. Hoolpa, and several other people opposed this.
Some people, and I think by now most people believe, that there are mutiple scum teams. As in two 5-6 player teams, and maybe 1-3 SK type roles.
Moneybags is lynched. Flips VT. Here is the wagon:
-------- moneybags (10): imaginality, TechnoWC, callforjudgement, T-bone, Rhinox, redff, Ellibereth, BBmolla, Fritzler, Muffin Wednesday
Kairyuu claims to be an angel in post 807. You should probably read that post yourself, since it kind of has too many factors to summarize. But the jist of it is that it's a role where he can stop a lynch by naming another person to kill. Also, there are more the one angel. He may communicate with them at all time.This is a very strong indication that scum have day talk.
A UberNinja wagon has been sprining up and then cooling down. Right now, he is the leading lynch wagon. He is mostly accused of trolling and not scumhunting/not showing an interest. Recentley, he started to post some content. Some people (okay, me ) think that it's too little to late, and it's only because of the pressure.
And some other things happened. I probably missed some things Also, I tried to be as unbiased as I could*
*Note I failed with the UN thing at the end
Remember, while I tried to capture most things, I can't catch a lot of details, otherwise it woldn't be a tl;dr. So if you are interested in a specific part, look into it.-
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Umm, do you always vote without completely reading the thread, or is this vote for funsies, or what? Because, ummm, this vote is shit. I don't have to tell you, do I? Well, I will anyways:
(1) You say that you are still reading
(2) You don't justify it. Like, not even pretend to justify.-
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Okay, from the 4 lynches that took place, I think the moneybags lynch bothers me the most. For all it was worth, I think it went too fast, and gained much more steam that would be expected. It practically sprung up from the ground and then just a while later had people jumping all over it. However, even though it took so much steam, it was very disorganized, clumsy, and awkward. It just feels so off.
Looking around, there are many wagons that took some steam, and had around the same situation as the moneybags lynch, but have taken no where near as much steam as the moneybags one. Ex, T-bone, BBmolla, UberNinja, and Milk. From the top of my head, I can think of two reasons:
(1) Either that people were kinda lost and/or hoping on reaching on a compromise, and really didn’t mind a moneybags lynch, so some people might have just sheeped into thinking that it was a good lynch.
(2) Or that it had scum driving it. Meaning that they either (a) decided to pile up on the wagon, or even just steam it off, so that they can get another mislynch in, or (b) that they pushed the wagon to belittle the other wagons and cool off the steam from those other competing ones. Which would indicate that at least one of the other wagons is scum.
I think that scenario 1 is unlikely, or at least, less likely than scenario 2. I just do’t think the wagon could’ve built up that fast, unless people were really lost and/or just sheeped one another.
Okay, looking at scenario 2-a:
moneybags (10): imaginality, TechnoWC, callforjudgement, T-bone, Rhinox, redff, Ellibereth, BBmolla, Fritzler, Muffin Wednesday
Looking back, I think Techo’s 644 (and also what he says after), T-bone’s 669, BBmolla’s 717, and Fritzler’s 745 votes look the worse.
Techno: Basically sheeps imaginality’s vote, says that he looks back at money, and that he looks scummy, says that he thinks Milk is also scummy, and that they might just be trying to buss each other, says that he thinks Milk might be the better lynch of the two, but still ends up keeping his vote on money. Could it be because money was gaining more heat than Techno actually thought, and decided to keep the vote there to push the lynch more?
T-bone: This is just awkward, and poorly justified. Saying that “Moneybags is as good of a vote as any” is not a good justification.
BBmolla: He just jumps on, without any justification. I noticed this habit of basically just jumping on any wagon, as long as it’s competing with his wagon. Same thing could be applied to T-bone really, but to a somewhat more hazy extent.
Fritzler: He just jumped on. He was fishing for a quick lynch in the beginning, when the wagon just started up, but didn’t vote. Then when he came back, he put money at L-1.
Rhinox’s 682 feels townish, as does imaginality’s. Yes, imaginality’s could be scum pushing a mislynch, but I don’t think he could’ve possibly thought it would take off like it did, therefore it leans more of a townish. It also looks like genuine scumhunting.
Red’s 695 vote is awkward. But then again, it’s Red Ellibereth’s vote is also weird. But then again, I don’t think he used any words besides ‘vote’ and the name of a person, as someone pointed out. Call’s vote is basically null. As does Muffin’s. Don’t think any thing can come up from the votes of the last two.
Scenario 2-b:
Okay, from the four scummies that I have listed above, I think that T-bone was at the most danger as a competing wagon, and BBmolla follows. But T-bone’s personality strikes me more as the type to actually go for a competing wagon to try and take the heat off him. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if BB did that too.
I will try to look into this a little while later; I am taking a break-
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Agree with petapan, Ellibereth is town. Well, probably. Placing him there for now.
I'll be pretty mad if the CC wagon turns out to be like the moneybags one. "Oh let's lynch CC", and then everyone sheeps into the wagon. Though I am contemplating whether to actually join it or now, because it seems a bit better than the moneybags one. As I said before, anyone who votes in the same post as they say "I'm still catching up" is either dull, psycho, or scum. But I'll keep an eye on there for now.
In other news, can we please get an UberNinja or T-bone lynch in? I actually prefer T-bone now to UberNinja, mainly because what I said before concerning the moneybags lynch. So without further ado:
UNVOTE:
VOTE: T-bone
I'll be pretty happy to take arms against UN again, but I really feel it dying down, both on the thread and inside myself. But if someone wants to spark it up again, I definitely won't mind.-
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Can anyone please see how opportunistic T-bone's votes have been all game, and how when you really get down to them, they are all crap and just sheeping or opportunistic?
In post 443, T-Bone wrote:Okay. Needs to die by lynch...
UberNinja
Izak
Petapan
Vote: UberNinja
Needs to die by other means
IceGuy
Town voting block
Me
Spyrex
Rhinox
Amrun
Chevre
errr...I need to go back and check all that. I should make notes.
In post 482, T-Bone wrote:
Thank you Call, Izak needs to go.unvote, Vote: Izak
UberNinja or Petapan next please.
In post 669, T-Bone wrote:Here's the players with one post in the game, omitting Amrun because her one post has more content then everyone in the One-Line gallery, and I read her as town. I wish she'd post more...
Captain Corporal, Robotnick2, funkybike1, Ellibereth, sykedoc - all have 1 post.
If that's what you wanted there you go. CC just came in to vote Chesskid. Funkybike just confirmed his role. Elli just said "WTF". Robotnick just quoted Izak about hammering lynches. Sykedoc just confirmed.
Dramonic has two posts, one for a policy vote, one to ask how mimes lose.
From there it's about picking and choosing which players tried to add content, and which players continue to spam without content. So someone like Imaginality has 3 posts, but I think they are pretty good, as opposed to Sleepykrew's 3, which offer nothing, Moneybags at 8, which are crap, or Matt at 66 which are 98% crap.
Moneybags is as good of a vote as any.Unvote, Vote: Moneybags
While that wagon is building slowly, we have one more lynch today. Perhaps we use this last lynch to take out someone who is scummy and posting a lot as opposed to another lurker. Who knows, maybe the night phase will allow some of those low posters to catch up and give some actual content Day 2.
In post 784, T-Bone wrote:I can get behind a Uberninja lynch Hoopla. His last couple of posts were just him claiming he's not going to do anything but troll. We don't need that, trolling is anti-town. I wanted to try and push Matt or Petapan here, but we can't have admitted trolls wandering around unfortunately.
Vote: Uberninja-
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In post 1026, TeChNoWC wrote:So I'm guessing by your analysis, you would consider Muffin's vote on Moneybags pretty scummy, seeing as he did JUST THAT AND HAMMERED.
No. You guess wrong. Did you even read my analysis here, post 940 (I know it's rather wally, but still)? The most suspicious people on the moneybags wagon are you, T-bone, BB, and Frtiz. Red's, Ellibereth's, Call's, and Muffin's votes are pretty null. And Rhinox's and imaginality's are townish.
Why are you suspecting Muffin for her hammer? If she wasn't going to hammer, someone else would've. He was going to die regardless. Fritz said the only thing that we should wait for was a claim. Moneybags did that. Why is it wrong for Muffin to do that? If she didn't, what is more probable: That someone else would've hammered, or that magically all the other 9 people unvote and go on another wagon?-
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In post 1030, redFF wrote:Look at some of the smaller wagons e.g Milk/uberninja. If you're town you should jump on a slower forming wagon because all the fast forming wagons will inevitably be scum led.
Yes, or the T-bone/spyrex ones.
But really, look at the T-bone wagon. All of the votes are leftover votes and/or votes with no justification. Infact, if T-bone flips scum, Trollie is almost confimed scum. Theamatuer would look very bad also, for vote-sitting. He is justifying the vote now with something different than the first time when he voted him a while ago, so his vote is now looking like a lazy attempt at distancing. Right now, I honestly think that a T-bone lynch would help us out the most, and he is suspicious as hell.-
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So are you planning on sheeping this whole game, or just at this particular moment? "Oh, I would love lynching player X, but player Y, who is also scummy, suspects him too, so no". The fuck? Why does your suspicion on me affect how you feel on T-bone, even though you say you want to lynch him? People, please make opinions for your own self and/or sheep more subtly.In post 1041, Staeg wrote:Oh, and, I'd like to kill T-bone, but that Luffy person is scummy. As is techno. I'll maybe read his iso after a bit.-
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In post 1046, Staeg wrote:Okay, so you have person A being. I find person A scummy. However, person A's primary pusher is just as scummy if not even scummier than A. Anything pushed by things scummier than the wagon itself has a "you read person A wrong, stay away" sign over it.
Well, did you read the sign "you read the person pushing on person A wrong, don't be fooled" to the left of that other sign?-
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In post 1050, Chronopie wrote:VOTE: Elmo
Spoiler: Why
Agree with petapan (if I'm reading his post correctley), I promise that I will jump on that wagon at some point, but I really don't see the energy for it atm.
And that's 2/3rds of his Iso. The rest is fluff.-
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Well, that post went pretty horrible Let's try this again:
In post 1050, Chronopie wrote:VOTE: Elmo
Spoiler: Why
And that's 2/3rds of his Iso. The rest is fluff.
Agree with petapan (if I'm reading his post correctley), I promise that I will jump on that wagon at some point, but I really don't see the energy for it atm.
And that's 2/3rds of his Iso. The rest is fluff.-
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In post 1071, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Alright fuckers. It's like your afraid of voting me. Come on and vote me out of here. This I don't have energy bullshit is weak. If you want me voted out let's go right now. Let's go 1v1 then Chrono. And the rest of you monkeys who want me gone because I've done nothing but sheep. Vote me in your next post or shut the fuck up about my iso.
VOTE: Chrono
Well, I would love to vote you, but you see, I'mreallytrying to get a T-bone lynch in
PS: You should totally stop talking because it's really not helping your case.
For all the people that are saying the T-bone wagon is shit and/or is random/not based on anything, I took the liberty of summarizing why T-bone has much more of a case and would be much more helpful that all the other stupid wagons floating by:
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In post 1103, manho wrote:wait, kondi is not even in the player list.
Yea, his vote isn't being counted by the mod.
Also, people should be mass unvoting CC right about now and jumping on another wagon, because the Captain wagon is pretty much ridiculous. It would've been fine to lynch CC with one of our other 4 lynches, but using up the last one on him is stupid.-
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In post 1105, Staeg wrote:I'll respond to techno later today, but luffy, how is using one of the first 4 lynches on CC better? I'd say that it's worse, if anything.
Meh. At least it could be justified as policy lynching/lynching lurkers, so then there would still be lynches open to scumhunt. But pushing a lynch on him when we only have 1 lynch left is stupid, since it's not so much scumhunting as it is policy.-
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If we don't get a T-bone lynch in I will be pretty mad Specially considering that some people out of no where are declaring him town, and the wagon seems to always be getting derailed, which just proves my point more that he is scum and his wagon is being derailed by scum buddies. Not all of them, but a considerable amount to try and let the lynch not go through.
In post 1130, SpyreX wrote:If it comes down to it I'd rather force the committal on my wagon than see T-Bone lynched this lynch.
WTF is this? Please explain why (a) T-bone is town and (b) why in hell would you want yourself to be lynched over someone who you are not sure of their alignment*
*Unless you guys are some type of mason group. Otherwise, your argument is shit.
WTF is this. Please restraint from being so jumpy and/or shut up so you don't look so scummy*
*Unless you are paving the path to confess soon, in which case, by all means, don't let me stop you.-
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In post 1140, Muffin Wednesday wrote:Think about it this way; is there any situation where SpyreX is town and T-Bone is scum?
Why, I can think of so many:
1) Spy and T-bone are Neighbors, and T-bone has "convinced" Spy that he is town.
2) Spy has confused a Neighborhood and a Mason group, and thinks that in the former, all people are guaranteed to be town.
3) T-bone hacked Spy's account.
4) Spy is a townie who genuinely believes that T-bone is town, when he is truly not.
5) Spy is just doing this so he can get an alternative lynch in other than T-bone.
6) Spy was first town, then he got day-culted, and is now under T-bone's control.
7) Spy is trolling us.
Yea, I think I'll stop trying now But some of those make sense!-
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In post 1143, MattP wrote:7 out of 7 of those possibilities are stupid, but I won't tell you which 7.
:S But I want to know which 7 are the stupid ones! BOO!-
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In post 1149, syndromeofadown wrote:He's already said he's fine being the final lynch of the day like a long time ago. He's also said T-bone is a town read which implies he wouldn't want to lynch him. Putting 2 and 2 together means he's fine being lynched before T-bone. This isn't a groundbreaking discovery.
Umm, no. Putting:
"I don't mind being the lynch with so many players as long as it will benefit town" with
"I think T-bone is town"
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"LOL! Look! I am not going to be the lynch! Oh but wait! One of my town reads is about to get lynched. I must not let that happen! I'll sacrifice my own self, who I am 100% sure is town (assuming Spy is town) instead of admitting that my read on the person I declared town may be wrong! Why, this game is sooo much fun! I must be the king of mafia or something! Awaiting my award of valiant sacrifice guys..."
If you try to argue this any further, I will vote you, and will do everything in my power to make sure you are lynched.-
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In post 1152, MattP wrote:"If you try to argue this any further, I will vote you, and will do everything in my power to make sure you are lynched."
^Scum trying to shut another player up with threats. I see no town motivation in this threat.
For that to be true, then you must think that the argument he is making is a valid one
Okay, you two can keep on arguing why it would be very wise for Spy to want to get lynched before T-bone, even if they are not part of a mason group. I will not waste my time trying to explain why that is borderlining on horribleness.
PS: The town motivation is called: "Trying to shut down distractions"
PPS: Even if I was scum, why would I make a threat and shut downthat?-
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In post 1158, Trevor wrote:T-bone isn't scum. Those lists aren't scum-motivated and his wagon is pretty shitty.
Okay, that's not why he is being lynched. I really don't care about the lists. The fact that he seems to be happy to go for any ride is annyoing as hell. How about you ISO him, and tell me one unique thing that you come up with that he has done. All he has basically done is either post random.org generated lists or jump on flying wagons and shamelessly sheep. And his moneybags vote is horrible. It is just awkward, and poorly justified. Saying that “Moneybags is as good of a vote as any” is hell not a good justification. That fact that he was in danger of being lynched and his wagon was pretty big would also give him a reason to jump on a competing wagon to take the heat off himself.
Also, even looking at it from an outside POV, a T-bone lynch would still be very helpful in analyzing a lot of people much better. His flip would do a lot more than the other competing wagons.
And as I said, the fact that his wagon keeps getting derailed is just more evidence that points towards his scumminess. Did you see how easy the moneybags (or even TML) lynch went through? Do you see how fucking hard it is to get this T-bone lynch in? Just look at the differences.(This is an alt)-
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