How did you know!?
Shes a secret Ascended co-ModGod who is also a sleeper agent in the game!
Oh crap, gotta distance!
I don't care if he's not in the game!
How did you know!?
Shes a secret Ascended co-ModGod who is also a sleeper agent in the game!
Hey,Vote:Forbiddanlight for TRADTiMM (you know what I'm talking about Razz )
I didn't know votes were scarce ^-^.vote FL
Why are you still wasting a vote to lynch on a player out of the game?
well, I don't need any replacements for it ^-^Hey FL, do you realize that your sig still says "No replacements needed for MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia"? =P
Couldn't he be lying and have a Lain role?
No, it's just that Tar isn't playing. He's dead.
It's a trap. He just WANTS us to think he's not a player when he bones us in endgame. I should know!
If I had to guess, I'd say lynching Tar would result in a no lynch, like in TRADTiMM.
How so? What prevents Kai from just killing a target?The interesting thing is, that miller claim is confirmable.
ok.If we have a night with no kills, she'd be shown as targetting someone random, FL. I don't think a killer could target someone and not kill them.
Yep it was. Does the same thing in any game I run.
It's odd to me that most games now start out with at least a couple votes for the mod. I don't remember that ever happening much when I started play. Was there actually a no lynch in Tradittnm or whatever when players did it?
Oh.Roleblock him.
I'm not saying this is practical, but it's theoretically possible.
Basically. I'm saying it's not practically confirmable.And I didn't say it was likely we'd have no kills...just that in the rare possibility it happens (and someone tracks it) you could see. Highly improbable all that would happen, though.
It's D0. Let's let him live a little.The last time I opposed a D1 lynch of zwet he turned out to be scum.
Sure, Tar
Note the update to first post. Tarhalindur is NOT a player in this game. - Tar
/me takes notes
It's not a mod error. I'm listed twice because I'm a double voter. Go back and look at all the vote counts. Very Happy
What if you are aware of the potential for vig kills in this game?The correct response to a potential jester is to lynch them.
Over someone asking to be lynched.
Why would anything take priority?
Why not? We prevent an anti town force from winning. It feels goodWhy?
The trouble is Tar has had jester lynches hurt town, while not game ending. MS 3 again, I know.
Jester Lynches don't result in end game, and the town can still win with a jester win.
And if he's a jester that hurts the town?
If he wants to be lynched, then go ahead. He's only going to disrupt town otherwise. I rather we take him out soon before the issue gets in the middle of scumhunting.
I'm not worried about him ending the game. Read my posts. I'm worried he has an anti town effect like some of the jesters in MS 3.I don't see a problem with lynching SSK. Even if he is a Jester, odds are he won't end the game if lynched. I don't see why everyone is so against lynching him.
Vengence and enemy's gate are both swingy though. I don't like it is all.
Out of these three, only the third one is automatically anti-town. The other two can be utilized in pro-town ways - indeed, I believe Tar mentioned in his notes that he intended them to be used in a pro-town way. If he is a Jester, who is to say he can't have a similarly ambiguous ability?
That's fair.
Also, I am not voting SSK until I get confirmation on the death scenarios. That is all.
I know.
BTW SSK isn't definitely a jester. Just sayin. >_>
Besides him asking to be lynched, no. But Tar is a mod you prepare for the worst with. Will it REALLY kill us to vig him instead of lynch him?Is there any evidence AT ALL that SSK is a jester?
So, you assume the special ability is automatically going to help town? Can you tell me why?
Suggesting a vig of SSK is more likely scummy than townie. (you still get the kill, possibly without the special ability activation. Win/win for scum)
Well, I'm assuming SSK isn't town, to be honest. Which isn't all that charitable but I don't wanna get jester screwed like what could have potentially happened in MS 3. Maybe I'm relying on past games too much but I think it's better to err on the side of caution. I do want SSK's answer though.
If he's lynched, then the vig is free to possibly kill scum; if he's vigged then the lynch is free to possibly kill scum. I don't see how lynching him is any sort of advantage to scum.
Am I? Well, odds are I can't stop the SSK lynch if we decide to do it. I just hope it doesn't end badly.You're overthinking this.
Do you mean your death triggered ability here?B. and possibly C too
Ok...My Ultimate activates on death which is Requiem of Innocence and my renumeration is not a kill, but I don't feel like saying what it is.
I suppose.
It sounds like its a swingy ability.
Possibly either helping, or hurting town on its use.
If thats the case, then that wouldn't be a good reason not to use it.
I do not know it. I do have a requiem ability though.
I took this post as FL knowing what it means so I thought that that ability was in a previous Tar game that I haven't read.
Is it paranoia when they are out to get you? I've played every Tar game except mostly mountainous and MS 1. He's back up modded every game I'VE run here except for insane asylum.FL, I think you're relaying too much in previous games. I have a general town-read from you now, but more like paranoid town.
Why was it a third party then? The town faction is Ancients.
Before we go and lynch SSK, I'd just like to note that I know 100% that The Outsiders, and therefore reck are indeed protown.
Ah, fair point. It's just the whole "all other factions" with the win con being named Ancient.The 3rd post does describe the Ancients as the primary town faction, which I feel does suggest that there may be other factions out there that are pro-town.
I think I believe Slicey.
The standard factional win condition thing implies that other things CAN be town.Win Condition (Ancient): You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same. Your faction counts as a faction when calculating the standard factional win condition. (The Ancients have the standard factional win condition.)
That latter is what I'm guessing if Slicey is right about Outsiders.Actually, I read it as the faction being Ancient (so all non-Ancients would have to leave the game), but another faction might say that it doesn't count as a faction for the standard factional win condition, or even counts as Ancient for the standard factional win condition.
Didn't he post like, an hour or two ago? Patience.dramonic wrote:Where is Slicey anyways? He was all alarmist and stuff about the lynch, yet now he vanishes. Feels like stalling to me.
Hi. You just took SSK to L-1 again. You did realize this, right?Vote: SSK
That was surprising. And what, outsiders are town too? Imo, anything that towns need to eliminate to win can't be pro-town, can it?
Hmm, remind me to use this role somehow in a way that doesn't break the game.SSK was a neutral super bomb. The base is now destroyed and everyone is dead. Good Game.
Nah, if it were in terms of someone I didn't like I'd have shot zwet, probably. Sorry zwet, but you tend to be better dead as any alignment. I shot SSK so his power could poof and we could be like "horray!"I think FL doesn't like SSK
That's my guess. Which would imply several things. I won't spell them all out. But the forsaken description reads as third party anti town....Maybe he's trying to say your race is "Forsaken?" That's all I can think of, really.
I definitely don't have any reason to believe this. But I want to hear dramonic weigh in.
I'm definitely not Forsaken. dramonic?
Would killing you be bad?
True, but I have to try. Lynching me would be bad.
That's classified informationdramonic wrote:How many freaking dayvigs do you have? XDforbiddanlight wrote:Would killing you be bad?
True, but I have to try. Lynching me would be bad.
Because I can engineer your assassination if you'd like ^-^.
Fair, I'll see what I can doStill bad, but not quite as bad as lynching me would be.
First of all, someone would have died in my first post yesterday were that the case. In fact, I have a feeling most of the playerlist would have been shot by this point depending on how limited said vigs were.
My money's on...
*check playerlist*
25
Well, I prefer shooting him. This will be implemented shortly.Wow... I know this is a power heavy game but lets at least tie the rope to the tree before we hang him. From what I understand, longer days equal better for town.
Can't he just be shot instead?
@Xyl- perhaps you should explain a little as to why you are town? Saying I would not be a good lynch does not mean that you are town. Also, if you have any friends, like the outsiders apparently do, they should come to your defense... it would be scummy otherwise.
Yeah, you are so getting shot.
I am town because my role PM says I'm town (well, actually it says I'm Ancient faction, but same thing). I am not a good lynch because I am town. In theory all other townies are my friends, maybe you'd like to come to my defense?
Oh, it's okWell, that was useless. Sorry FL. D;
Why yes, she does. I will not confirm anything else.Oooh FL has another trick up his sleeve. He must be some high general or someone of some authority.
Then you just wasted one of my kills.
So what happens if we lynch XYL and you kill him with condemned?
Yeah, seriously, what the hell? Dramonic's alignment is going to be contributed to by Xyl's flip. We don't lynch him til then.okay since XYL is going down via the kill,
vote Dramonic
You were second on the list.
Remind me to reread him really fast. Because I recall thinking "uh...what?" to some of his posts.Vote: Deathnote
This is the best lynch I see right now, due to all that weird speculating he did before SSK got vaporized.