Legacy of the Ancients Mafia (That's All, Folks!)

[Kise]

He is.

[Slicey]

Kairyuu is awesome. >_>

Also, what is Requiem of Innocence?

[dramonic]

If we knew that it wouldn't be a problem, now would it?

[Slicey]

My Ultimate activates on death which is Requiem of Innocence and my renumeration is not a kill, but I don't feel like saying what it is.

Ok...

Hmm...I don't like it, but I'll accept it

Unvote, Vote SSK

I took this post as FL knowing what it means so I thought that that ability was in a previous Tar game that I haven't read.

[forbiddanlight]

I took this post as FL knowing what it means so I thought that that ability was in a previous Tar game that I haven't read.

I do not know it. I do have a requiem ability though.

[Slicey]

Okay. Nevermind my question then.

[Snow_Bunny]

FL, I think you're relaying

too much

in previous games. I have a general town-read from you now, but more like paranoid town.

SSK: If you feel your Ultimate will possibly end up helping scum, then why do you want to trigger it? And, why the eagerness to lynch you today? Sounds like this going to end up badly for town... Any roads, we can only hope for the best now.

[forbiddanlight]

FL, I think you're relaying too much in previous games. I have a general town-read from you now, but more like paranoid town.

Is it paranoia when they are out to get you? I've played every Tar game except mostly mountainous and MS 1. He's back up modded every game I'VE run here except for insane asylum.

I know how he thinks, and he knows how I think. No, more accurately, I have a vague idea how he thinks. No, he's not going to repeat previous games. But he will use basic ideas.

[Starbuck]

No. Because zwet will continue to be impossible to read the entire game.

Just because you can't read him doesn't mean nobody can read him.

QFT

[Starbuck]

So if his death could possibly help scum, how is it pro-town to lynch him?

[Xylthixlm]

I know how he thinks, and he knows how I think. No, more accurately, I have a vague idea how he thinks.

Your outguess-the-mod-fu is weak.

[forbiddanlight]

Your outguess-the-mod-fu is weak.

Is it now? We'll see what happens when SSK flips.

[malthusis]

I'm practically of the same mindset that Boxman had on post #185. Except for the possible Vengeful (which can be easily remedied by making zwet the hammer vote), I see very few disadvantages to voting SSK right now.

Unvote, Vote: SSK

Vote Count, please?

[xRECKONERx]

Meh.

Let's not lynch zwet anymore. But I refuse to vote SSK, as I refuse to be a part of a lynch on something that could potentially blow me the fuck up. Instead?

Vote: Slicey

[Xylthixlm]

Reckoner is not a team player.

[Slicey]

SSK, if you actually are a Jester, you should be playing like reck.

[xRECKONERx]

Reckoner is not a team player.

How do I know you're on my "team", potential-anti-town-Xyl?

SSK, if you actually are a Jester, you should be playing like reck.

O I C WUT U DID THAR

[Xylthixlm]

Reckoner is not a team player.

How do I know you're on my "team", potential-anti-town-Xyl?

I'm not the one trying to save my own skin here.

[Bogre]

Meh.

Let's not lynch zwet anymore. But I refuse to vote SSK, as I refuse to be a part of a lynch on something that could potentially blow me the fuck up. Instead?

Vote: Slicey

Wait, why now unsold on the zwet lynch? You were just claiming that ANYTHING he did, whether scum or town, was anti-town and deserving a lynch. What's changed?

[Sajin]

Meh.

Let's not lynch zwet anymore. But I refuse to vote SSK, as I refuse to be a part of a lynch on something that could potentially blow me the fuck up. Instead?

Vote: Slicey

This post sounds incredibly anti town.

[Maemuki]

What Bogre/Sajin said.

How do I know you're on my "team", potential-anti-town-Xyl?

Calling someone potential-anti-town is easy.
Calling someone potential-anti-town with reasons...isn't. So? Infounded attacks ftw I guess.

B. and possibly C too

On which ways would it help scum? I'm sorry, but I want to know if your lynch is worth it...or not.

What's your reasoning, Reckoner?

[SocioPath]

People are failing to realize even a vig can 'potentially help the scum'. A vig isn't guaranteed pro-town results. Getting caught up on whether or not SSK's can 'help or hurt' the town is irrelevant because he has stated that he isn't going to state the nature of his ability.

Reck's self-centered, self-serving attitude isn't helpful either.
Not voting a player because they are potentially a bomb?
You act like you are the only one with a power role in this game.
Where in fact, everyone is a power role.

And I can't really see a player who is a bomb telling the town, 'oh hey, lynch me please,' fresh into D1.

If SSK was a bomb that also had another ability that was on death that helped the town, then the logical conclusion is that you would FIRST find scum, then lynch up scum, but before hammers can be dropped, SSK would go 'oh, I'm a bomb, with good things when I die, have that scum hammer me.' And if said scum player refused to hammer, than that would help confirm his guilt through his self preservation, and he would then get lynched anyways.

The kind of attitude that a player won't vote for someone because they think they might be a bomb, especially since bombs work on hammer votes and you certainly wouldn't be hammering him, is terribly scummy. Not to mention the whole 'vote zwet cause he is anti-town' before zwet has even shown that in this game, is silly.

Unvote
Vote: xRECKONERx

I'm not ready to end the day with SSK yet.

[Vaya]

People are failing to realize even a vig can 'potentially help the scum'. A vig isn't guaranteed pro-town results. Getting caught up on whether or not SSK's can 'help or hurt' the town is irrelevant because he has stated that he isn't going to state the nature of his ability.

This is basically what I've been thinking in regards to the idea that SSK's role could potentially help scum. A few people are making too big a deal out of it, most(non-investigative) roles that actually do something could potentially help out scum more than town(a vig killing townies, doc protecting scum from death, RB'er blocking pro-town actions, etc.).

Really, the fact that SSK is honest enough to admit that about his role gives me a feeling that we can trust him. I don't think he'd say something that could discourage the town like that if he were scum trying to sucker the town into lynching him.

SSK should be lynched asap, there's no point in wasting time trying to go after other people right now when the logical play would still be to lynch SSK at the end of the day. There's no reason we can't wait until tomorrow for that.

[Tarhalindur]

"Outsider, n. - An alien species hailing from the Kalida galaxy. The Outsiders are physiologically adapted for living in extremely cold environments (less than 50 degrees Kelvin). This radically different physiology gives the Outsiders a very different viewpoint, to such a degree that the Outsiders are only barely incomprehensible to most races. In particular, their goals remain unknown to other races."

- Encyclopedia Universalis entry (taken from Ancient Intelligence sources)

For those unfamiliar with the Tarhalindur ruleset: Unvotes are required. - Tar

The Second Vote Count (aka the "And The Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place" Vote Count)

1) Kairyuu (1) - Maemuki
2) Sajin (0)
3) Seraphim (0)
4) zwetschenwasser (1) - dramonic
5) MafiaSSK (12) - Vaya, MafiaSSK, Xylthixlm, DragonsofSummer, Sajin, Mufasa, Snow_Bunny, forbiddanlight, Budja, Boxman, Kise, malthusis
6) Mufasa (1) - Kairyuu
7) Vaya (0)
8) Xylthixlm (0)
9) forbiddanlight (0)
10) xRECKONERx (2) - zwetschenwasser, Slicey
11) dramonic (0)
12) DeathNote (0)
13) Budja (0)
14) Boxman (0)
15) Maemuki (1) - Starbuck
16) malthusis (0)
17) Starbuck (0)
18) Cobalt (0)
19) SocioPath (0)
20) DragonsofSummer (0)
21) Slicey (2) - xRECKONERx, SocioPath
22) Bogre (0)
23) Snow_Bunny (0)
24) animorpherv1 (0)
25) Kise (0)

Not Voting (6): Seraphim, DeathNote, Starbuck, Cobalt, Bogre, animorpherv1

Votes required to lynch:

14

FoS Count:

1) Kairyuu (0)
2) Sajin (0)
3) Seraphim (0)
4) zwetschenwasser (0)
5) MafiaSSK (0)
6) Mufasa (0)
7) Vaya (0)
8) Xylthixlm (0)
9) forbiddanlight (1) - Budja
10) xRECKONERx (0)
11) dramonic (0)
12) DeathNote (0)
13) Budja (0)
14) Boxman (0)
15) Maemuki (0)
16) malthusis (0)
17) Starbuck (0)
18) Cobalt (0)
19) SocioPath (0)
20) DragonsofSummer (0)
21) Slicey (0)
22) Bogre (0)
23) Snow_Bunny (0)
24) animorpherv1 (0)
25) Kise (0)

Not FoS'ing (24): Kairyuu, Sajin, Seraphim, zwetschenwasser, MafiaSSK, Mufasa, Vaya, Xylthixlm, forbiddanlight, xRECKONERx, dramonic, DeathNote, Boxman, Maemuki, malthusis, Starbuck, Cobalt, SocioPath, DragonsofSummer, Slicey, Bogre, Snow_Bunny, animorpherv1, Kise

Current Deadline:

November 21, 2009 at ~6:00 P.M. GMT -6

First Mod Deadline Review:

November 14, 2009 at ~6:00 P.M. GMT -6

Mod Scene forthcoming.

[Tarhalindur]

First Blood

As you discuss possible reasons why

The Redshirt

was killed - if there is a conspiracy, who it might contain, what its motives might be -

xRECKONERx

steps into the diplomat quarters to pick up one of his favorite drinks. A liquid helium concoction, he calls it, but you think he's joking.

Ambassadors go to and from the diplomat quarters all the time on Ouranos, so you think nothing of it.

At least, you think nothing of it until one of you notices about thirty minutes later that

xRECKONERx

hasn't actually come back from his quarters. The intercom blaring to life a minute later (asking for personnel to clean up a nasty odor in the diplomacy sector) doesn't ease your concerns at all.

Could

xRECKONERx

have met an untimely demise? You send a squad of station security personnel to investigate.

Their report is not pretty.

xRECKONERx

was found dead in his quarters, emitting a rather nasty smell. Whoever killed him was an expert - he was killed by a single cut into a soft spot on his encounter suit (and a very small one at that - the security personnel missed the cut on their first inspection of the body).

More interesting, however, is the reason for the smell.

xRECKONERx

was not the Ancient that his encounter suit suggested. The smell of his decaying body, the cooling unit in the encounter suit, and the quarters

xRECKONERx

were found in lead to only one conclusion: he was, in fact, a member of the

Outsider

embassy to Ouranos station - and a highly ranked

Outsider

diplomat at that. What would such an important person be doing on Ouranos station?

Could the

Outsiders

BE the conspiracy? It's certainly possible - their motives are alien enough...

But if so... who killed

xRECKONERx

? Perhaps more importantly, why?

The situation may be more grave than it first appeared.

10) xRECKONERx, The Ambassador, Outsider Diplomat, Assassinated Day 1

Vote Count reset. Day 0 continues.