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This had me in tears the other night. It's actually genius though.
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What?In post 37, Creature wrote:Okay, I'll just lurk through all the first 3 days so scum won't kill me early. Hopefully scum are lynched meanwhile.-
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Felt genuine to me.In post 79, Ircher wrote:
Kinda feel like the second paragraph is too-much-explanation. As in, trying to justify it too hard.In post 60, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:It might be one-sided on Pine's side considering he's only made one post showing he's online but stopped saying anything afterwards, however on my end, to give you context to the vote, I recently played a game as an IC and Pine had day talk as scum and manipulated me throughout the game till I sided with him in LyLo and lost the game for town and said I'd vote Pine every game we play together that has daytalk.
I'd love to be able to tell mods in advance what roles to give Pine and I but the likelihood of me playing a game with Pine and I on opposite factions to set up a grudge vote scum theatre just for this game IF we both happened to roll scum would be a god like miracle. However, as much as I wish that was actually true, it is literally a close to impossible scenario, ergo the most logical conclusion is to not treat it as such and wait for more substance throughout the thread before you think you honestly caught 2/X scums when you're already wrong about at least 1 of them.-
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You two know each other?In post 97, Alisae wrote:
This is the part where I advocate for debi and say that it's their first game on site.In post 95, Pine wrote:If she'd been a genuine newbie, I could let that go, but she isn't.-
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So you think Gin is scum for attempting to clear himself early?In post 102, Debi wrote:Also no I am not an alt, I used to do mafia a lot of another forum is all, new things here such as what OMGUS or WIFOM have been explained to me via Wiki or other sources. This is my first time on this forum.
Creature if it was A ratio of Town:Scum:Other it would probably be 7:6:6:
So it would be:
For pine to be scum: 6/19
If Pine is Scum, For Gin to be Scum: 5/18
For both it is roughly 1/11:
Meaning there is a 1/11 chance they are both Scum, but of course it is just a hypothesis.
PS: Genuinely not an alt, you can ask for my IP if you need some evidence.
PSS: Alisae is a Steam friend-
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Well this makes me feel like you were stretching to find a reason to place a vote down but I'm not sure if it's because I'm a idiot and couldn't understand anything you were saying earlier.In post 109, Debi wrote:Lil Uzi Vert, I don't think of Gin as a scum as of yet, all that I think of him, is as a bit suspicious. He isn't necessarily scum, but I'm mainly going after him on that point for an answer on that sole point, nothing more to be honest.
Pine, reading into it too deeply is good, always. I mean, first impressions count right?-
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No. Just an observation.In post 187, Alisae wrote:On second thought, is that an attempt to discredit me?
I think you're going to end up confusing buddying with pocketing later on in your MS career.-
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In post 192, Alisae wrote:
I'm already confused ;~;In post 191, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I think you're going to end up confusing buddying with pocketing later on in your MS career.-
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Why are you asking for permission? Just do it if that's your thing.In post 200, Alisae wrote:Should I give reads now?-
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I mean you can, just felt odd. Like people are going to care unless they're scum or think you're a VI.In post 206, Alisae wrote:
Am I not allowed to ask if people care about my stance on the game?In post 202, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why are you asking for permission? Just do it if that's your thing.In post 200, Alisae wrote:Should I give reads now?
Pine and Gin are my stronger townreads.
Uzi is probably town
Zach gun to my head town
Wraith townlean
Ircher townlean
Debi Null
Dunn scumlean
Creature Scum
Kyouko Scum
Anyone else null
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I said something similar in 143. What made you come around?In post 209, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:IM DONE ARGUING IT. IT'S NOISE AT THIS POINT-
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Haven't got any bad vibes from Dunn to be honest. Tone feels genuine.In post 215, Alisae wrote:Ircher is just asking for people's stances and honestly right now I feel like he's playing his town game. He wants to understand where people are coming from.
Dunn I don't like he said Debi was one of his strong town right away. Seemed like he was trying to buddy Debi.
Wraith is currently gut. He's probably also one of my "gun to my head town" reads.
I'm not seeing what you're seeing from Ircher other than his question to Dunn a while ago. I did see a very bad push on Debi though that makes me very hesitant to lean town on him.-
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Later. It's not important nowIn post 216, Alisae wrote:
Uzi... -_-In post 196, Alisae wrote:
Hey!In post 195, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 192, Alisae wrote:
I'm already confused ;~;In post 191, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I think you're going to end up confusing buddying with pocketing later on in your MS career.
Don't leave me in the dark!-
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I just meant that you tend to call things buddying that aren't buddying and that it isn't a real scum tell in my opinion. I think you should look for people trying to pocket you. As in people trying to make you TR them.In post 223, Alisae wrote:
YES IT IS!In post 222, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Later. It's not important nowIn post 216, Alisae wrote:
Uzi... -_-In post 196, Alisae wrote:
Hey!In post 195, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 192, Alisae wrote:
I'm already confused ;~;In post 191, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I think you're going to end up confusing buddying with pocketing later on in your MS career.
Don't leave me in the dark!
Explain -_--
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Needs more time indeed. I'm satisfied with 156, 159, and 163.In post 225, Alisae wrote:
His ISO has almost no content. Tho he probs needs more time.In post 221, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Haven't got any bad vibes from Dunn to be honest. Tone feels genuine.
I didn't like 157 but I think that's just my personality and I'm also over it.-
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Yeah I have her as town in my notes so far. I don't think scum would play gymnastics just to try to justify a vote and her explanation when I asked what she was talking about felt town.In post 229, Alisae wrote:In that case I assume you're giving Debi a TR?-
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You think he acts like Camn?In post 257, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I can't help but think of Camn-
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People still use Viagra?In post 277, Pine wrote:On a rare occasion, I have to look at other dudes' painfully swollen dicks in my capacity as a professional EMT. Priapism.-
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In post 167, Alisae wrote:Is asking questions not contributing?
The above and the lean town read on Ircher is what I don't like about Alisae.In post 175, Alisae wrote:Also VOTE: SSBM_Kyouko
Ignored my RVS vote completely.
The image I posted is something I know Kyouko wouldn't ignore.
I really hate the first quote. Asking questions isn't contributing if the questions are filler or questions that don't help get a sense of alignment. It also feels like a bit of a scramble to defend himself off of Dunn's vote which was essentially gut.
The second quote is just a weird way to justify a vote. Kyuoko showed up late to a party which had plenty of things that seem more worthy of a response at the time.
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Alisae, could you tell me why you had the reaction you did to Dunn's gut vote and why Kyouko ignoring your vote caused you to scum read him at the time?
@rb:Is there anything else I'm missing in regards to Alisae? I'm scum reading Creature but if that can't happen today, I want to be able to completely trust your gut on this.-
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Why is he your top scum read right now? I think I'm missing something with him as well.
Am I the only one that found his reasoning for voting Debi just stupid and too careless to be scum?-
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So those feelings are what promoted you to ask the question in 167? I'm not seeing how it would at the moment.In post 310, Alisae wrote:
It just seemed sudden that he suddenly came in and townread Debi when a lot of people were SRing him at the time.In post 304, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Alisae, could you tell me why you had the reaction you did to Dunn's gut vote and why Kyouko ignoring your vote caused you to scum read him at the time?
Like it felt wierd and sudden to me. It wasn't a response to his vote moreso him just saying "Debi is town" that triggered my response.
Like, the timing just seemed off to me.
Tho now that I think about it, Debi seems more VI to me now.
And as for Kyouko, it just seemed like he was ignoring my attempt to get his attention at RVS.
I ignore your attempts all the time though. Why was it different for him?-
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Ah okay. Would've helped if you would've quoted her.In post 320, Alisae wrote:no 167 was prompted by Debi's response.
And that's because you're an anti-social meanie -_-
You don't ignore me all the time...
Looking at it again though, 165, it seemed like a fair point considering you two know each other off site.
And I'm not anti-social, you just won't talk to me off site-
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In post 76, Alisae wrote:
What makes you think it was fake? Wouldn't scum be more aware of the rules?In post 74, Creature wrote:They're trying to fake a townslip. I wanna see who's gonna try to fake a townslip next.In post 88, Alisae wrote:Debi what are your thoughts on Creature?In post 89, Alisae wrote:and 9 scum the fuck?In post 94, Alisae wrote:I'm gonna assume you're giving Creature a townread. Based on what?In post 125, Alisae wrote:
You think scum is pushing Debi for lynch bait?In post 123, Zachstralkita wrote:I have a problem with both Debi's logic and people voting Debi for such logic.
The above is all the questions you asked prior to Debi making that statement. I didn't have a problem with them but I can see why she might and as a result think you weren't contributing due to the rest of you ISO being just filler.In post 155, Alisae wrote:Dunnstral thoughts on the current game sofar?-
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Because I rather talk off site but if you insist.In post 334, Alisae wrote:YOU NEVER TALK TO ME! LAST TIME I REMEMBER I WAS THE ONE PMING YOU!-
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What exactly do you want me to talk about Gin because I'm translating this as just sheep me.In post 338, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Can you do me a favor and start talking about the game instead of talking about out of game shit?
I don't give a single fuck about your animes or your social life, fucking do something.-
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I understand that but I rather you either show how your scum hunting has helped you progress through the game so far or just continue to play your game than trying to prove what you're doing is helping the town. Everyone who isn't me that's pressuring right now has a drastically different play style than I do so I can sympathize but your responses to them so far have not made me feel better about your alignment.In post 359, Alisae wrote:
Because I want to make an attempt to show that I'm trying to scumhunt.In post 356, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why are the things that we should look at in your ISO are examples of you scum hunting and what have you learned from the scum hunting you've done so far?
And I learned that I am very shit at this game if people think I'm scum cause my scumhunting is poor!-
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In post 377, Alisae wrote:
It helped me understand and get somewhat of a feel of people. That's how it helped me during this game.In post 372, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I understand that but I rather you either show how your scum hunting has helped you progress through the game so far or just continue to play your game than trying to prove what you're doing is helping the town. Everyone who isn't me that's pressuring right now has a drastically different play style than I do so I can sympathize but your responses to them so far have not made me feel better about your alignment.In post 359, Alisae wrote:
Because I want to make an attempt to show that I'm trying to scumhunt.In post 356, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why are the things that we should look at in your ISO are examples of you scum hunting and what have you learned from the scum hunting you've done so far?
And I learned that I am very shit at this game if people think I'm scum cause my scumhunting is poor!
And I don't give a fuck, I am town. This is my mindset atm.
The problem is that your reads on Dunn and Ircher don't make me think that's the case. Mostly Ircher.In post 378, Alisae wrote:Clearly it's not working.
Also, it isn't working because of the fuss you made about buddying earlier and more recently, about the overall case on you.-
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Yeah I don't get your Ircher read. I barely see any of that in his ISO and I honestly think his case on Debi should have overruled any lean town read on him for the time being.In post 394, Alisae wrote:
For giving Ircher a gut read, and Dunn a scumread, who needs more time and legit has no content.In post 391, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The problem is that your reads on Dunn and Ircher don't make me think that's the case. Mostly Ircher.-
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Yeah that's why I'm a little wary on following him this time around because I'm not understanding where he's coming from with you. He said he skipped 10 pages though so I'm not sure if he just decided to skim and point out what stood out to him.In post 442, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Lol Uzi, you mean the fact that he ignores the discussion afterwards where Debi admitted to making a mistake reading it? Surely if rb was reading all that, he would have continued to read how there wasn't any basis there.
Yeah he's full of shit.
Your description of rb is just how he is but I've seen first hand him willing to work with people as town shortly after the early stages.-
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I'm not sure to be honest but I did like his response to you asking him to clarify. Does it really matter right now though? Things like that are just small things to add to a case or nothing at all in my opinion.In post 451, -Grey- wrote:
What do you make of him assuming three scum?In post 449, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Yeah that's why I'm a little wary on following him this time around because I'm not understanding where he's coming from with you. He said he skipped 10 pages though so I'm not sure if he just decided to skim and point out what stood out to him.In post 442, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Lol Uzi, you mean the fact that he ignores the discussion afterwards where Debi admitted to making a mistake reading it? Surely if rb was reading all that, he would have continued to read how there wasn't any basis there.
Yeah he's full of shit.
Your description of rb is just how he is but I've seen first hand him willing to work with people as town shortly after the early stages.-
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I liked your catch-up post but I'm not following your reads on Ircher and Echo. Could you go in depth on them a bit more?In post 513, Human Sequencer wrote:rb - idk
Alisae - scummy af
ssbm_Kyouko - townlean, post moar
TheRealGin-N-Tonic - idk
Lil Uzi Vert - town
Gamma Emerald - post moar, likely flake slot tbh
Zachstralkita - literally nothing
Creature - scummy
drealmerz7 - lol
Ircher - towny
Pine - towny kinda
Human Sequencer - lol
-Grey- - idk
Wraith - scummy af
SlickDilinger - great post my dude
Debi - town af
EchoVision - scummy
Dunnstral - idk can't ever read dunn fuck you
All Alone - lol
Feel free to ask my reasoning on any of these, if I miss it, ask again.-
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What are you trying to say here? Are you saying that you find Human's read and vote on you opportunistic because she didn't meta dive those players?In post 536, Creature wrote:I can call off your read on me because it looks opportunistic, so your read on Alisae, which I would expect you to take a deeper look, on Wraith, which you would also look at his playstyle, and EchoVision, the same as the other two.
I've never completed a game with you but meta is not why I'm scum reading you. I'm scum reading you because I don't understand how you came to 23 when we haven't had a scum flip yet and the announcement of RVS being over felt like just another reason to have a justified vote at that stage. Your responses to Wraith's entrance in 33 and 34 pinged me as well as 37. I also like the following from Human and it sounds like it can be backed up if I did a meta dive on you.In post 546, Creature wrote:Alisae: Never completed a game with me
LUV: Never completed a game with me (I think)
Grey: Never completed a game with me
Human Sequencer: Claims extra meta knowledge
I didn't get the sense that you really cared about why Human is scum reading you during that exchange but I also didn't find you confrontational either. Your responses in regard to her meta analysis I wouldn't even say felt like discrediting, just felt like arrogance and you don't really strike me as the kind of person to show it like I think you were doing there. The problem is I can't tell if it's fake or if you're scum caught for the wrong reasons.townCreature would be interested in why I scumread him, and use it as leverage to try and understand my slot better. Creature isn't confrontational. scumCreature is scared.-
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See 306. I just found the vote stupid and careless, not opportunistic.In post 571, Ircher wrote:In post 291, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Gin's reasoning for his RVS vote felt genuine. A little annoyed that it took him a while to stop arguing about math though.
I don't really like the Wraith wagon right now so I'm going to take a look Alisae's ISO and see if I can get behind rb. My vote for Creature isn't doing anything right now.
What do you dislike? The wagon composition? Or do you think Wraith is town (and why)?
I'm not seeing it, am I blind?In post 574, Ircher wrote:
Nah, that would apply to Debi. In Wraith's case, that was a super opportunistic leap.In post 306, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why is he your top scum read right now? I think I'm missing something with him as well.
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I've heard that, which is why I wished Wraith had given some meta knowledge on you.In post 632, Creature wrote:
23 - I wasn't 100% sure of that, but it seemed like a good push to makeIn post 627, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I've never completed a game with you but meta is not why I'm scum reading you. I'm scum reading you because I don't understand how you came to 23 when we haven't had a scum flip yet and the announcement of RVS being over felt like just another reason to have a justified vote at that stage. Your responses to Wraith's entrance in 33 and 34 pinged me as well as 37. I also like the following from Human and it sounds like it can be backed up if I did a meta dive on you.
33 and 34 - One of these snarky posts
37 - I've been getting nightkilled early more often
If you're not used to play with me, you'll usually find me weird.-
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You learned a new wordIn post 651, Alisae wrote:Appeasement!-
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Why is Gamma your top scum read currently? What are you trying to accomplish here voting an inactive slot?
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I'm finding this hard to believe to be honest. It read like you felt better about Wraith for town and decided to move on to another scum read.In post 716, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:In post 687, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why is Gamma your top scum read currently? What are you trying to accomplish here voting an inactive slot?
I was seeing if I could attract a reaction out of him to see if he was lurking. No real meaning to it although I don't like how we got PMs about game start yet he's not here.
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Chocolate chip slanderIn post 725, Alisae wrote:Those cookies taste like shit but it's from you so it doesn't matter because you're cool!-
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