New York 180 (Endgame)

[Nobody Special]

OMG I GET TO PLAY WITH HOUSE *AND* WAKE!! IT'LL BE LIKE A MAFIA THREEWAY!



.....wait, that totally came out wrong.

[Nobody Special]

So, realistically, there is no way I'll be able to read 40+ pages in the next 48 hours.

Cliffs notes, please?

[Nobody Special]

unvote

(I don't replace in very often, I forget these things.)

[Nobody Special]

House: Is your experience with Cheetory here, or offsite?

[Nobody Special]

Intuition and deductive reasoning were both involved.

witchcraft

In other news, MathBlade is most probably town.

House's replace out was townish.

Agreed.

[Nobody Special]

So you're trying to get us to vote for the empty slots, but you wont vote for them yourself?

I was wondering how everyone felt about it. Don't be so derpy.

I will not at all be surprised when you flip scum.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

[Nobody Special]

Just for funsies....

VOTE: Mathblade

Let's do it!!!!!!!! Let's see how quickly we can lynch the crazy chick

Whoa.

Why was I under the impression that you were Titus'

brother??

[Nobody Special]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Nobody Special]

Probably because I haven't voted yet.

[Nobody Special]

Read this again: no matter what ika says,

players are never told if they are protected in normal games on this site

. vikingfan lied. Why would he lie about being protected? He is insecure about how his survival looks and tried to compensate for it by fabricating an explanation for it. He made a mistake in site meta.

He needs to be quicklynched ASAP.

Oh, I forgot this was a Normal. You're absolutely correct.

VOTE: vikingfan

[Nobody Special]

Wait.

vikingfan: did you get absolutely no communication in regard to your investigation, or did you get "Your investigation of xxxx returned No Result" or similar?

[Nobody Special]

But why would the scum role black and try to kill the same person? It doesn't make sense. Especially since there were two deaths. Last time I checked doctors dont die when they heal someone.

Surely you are aware that there could be two scum factions, yes? One shoots, one protects, same player. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

[Nobody Special]

@Mod: Please update firstpost to include current replacements. Thanks!

[Nobody Special]

goodmorning: can I get a quick recap on why you aren't interested in lynching viking?

[Nobody Special]

Your help with vikingfan's claim would be very much appreciated. You are a mod. That's why I asked. It will help me figure out both vikingfan and ABR.

Wake is a newbe...ask NobodySpecial...

Oh, don't drag

me

into this.

But why would the scum role black and try to kill the same person? It doesn't make sense. Especially since there were two deaths. Last time I checked doctors dont die when they heal someone.

Surely you are aware that there could be two scum factions, yes? One shoots, one protects, same player. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

unlikely. Look at the role for pk. He is just mafia. Not red or blue mafia or some other team designation. Just mafia. So unless we have werewolves floating around it seems unlikely. The second shot is more likely and sk or vigilante.

I also want to note that both the role blocker and doc were both non consecutive. Viking didn't claim any such modification for his cop role. Do you think it's likely we get a plain cop by that the other roles are nonconsecutive?

I am fairly certain that most power roles in this game are non-consecutive because :reasons:. I think that because vf didn't claim non-consec, that further proves he is scum.

goodmorning: can I get a quick recap on why you aren't interested in lynching viking?

I find that his claim is plausible and am holding off on deciding whether I believe it or not til I ISO him. I'm not going to want to lynch him if I decide I believe it.

(sigh)

Given your experience (and given

my

experience with your experience) I'm gonna call bullshit on this and just say that you're vf's partner. And I was SO hoping you were town.

I doubt every single role is nonconsecutive, by the by.

See above for why I'm sure you think this, but you're wrong.

[Nobody Special]

Clarify?

[Nobody Special]

?

We have one claimed cop - VF. Are you drunk wake?

And no, outing the real cop with results on VF is not a good use of the cop powers...

We have one claimed cop who, according to Normal guidelines, is almost certainly lying.

Who lies? Scum. Scum lies.

Confirm Vote: vikingfan

[Nobody Special]

The game had to pass the Normal Review Group.

[Nobody Special]

Why would VF, if Scum, go through the trouble of making an incredibly dubious-sounding claim when he could go the easy route?

Perhaps because, oh, he hasn't been here for a few years and site meta has evolved? (Disclaimer: nonverified assertion; I think he said something about this was his first game back.)

[Nobody Special]

@Wake -- Normal game wiki link
http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrTHQY ... IQL9Bwzj4-

Says nothing about unique slots.

Please share yours?

New/variant roles may be included in limited number (no more than 1 in a Mini, 2 in a Large), and should be based on the usual role mechanics: Killing, Protecting, Investigating, Blocking, Voting, Enabling and Communication.

[Nobody Special]

Speaking of which, that reminded me to check and Non-Consecutive is an explicitly Normal modifier, in case anyone wondered.

I figured that, there are at least two in this game (but probably more).

[Nobody Special]

MathBlade: I have a big stick you can borrow, if you need.

I would love to lynch vikingfan, for reasons already enumerated.

[Nobody Special]

I swear I don't know what to do about you people.

[Nobody Special]

GM, you're ignoring me? Did I ask you something? I'm wary of reading you either way so cloudy with a chance.

No, just ignoring your slot in general. I mean, if you ask questions and shit I'll answer them, I just don't think I can read you so I'm not going to try. At least, not yet. I may have to if this game lasts and so do we.

Buddying noted.

Well, I've just decided to give VF one more night because I don't think it's fair that someone be lynched for poor circumstance.

You're one of them TouchyFeely LIBERALS who thinks everyone should get a trophy just for showing up, aren't you?

[Nobody Special]

When the fuck did Large Normals become such a breeding ground for pointless drama? It never used to be this way. Makes me sick.

[Nobody Special]

I'm confused why so many people are asking repeatedly.

Probably because you seem unable to settle on one version and stick with it.

[Nobody Special]

Doctors don't get told if their protection was successful. They don't get told anything.

Did this used to be the case in earlier Mafia games?

Never, as far as I recall.

[Nobody Special]

Doctors don't get told if their protection was successful. They don't get told anything.

Did this used to be the case in earlier Mafia games?

Never, as far as I recall.

NS, what are your reads?

vikingfan needs to die. The rest can be discussed tomorrow.

[Nobody Special]

vikingfan needs to die. The rest can be discussed tomorrow.

What do you think of TSO and Aeronaut and why do you think it?

TSO is supremely frustrated, like I am, and therefore most-probably town.

Aeronaut, no read, because he hasn't left an impression on me yet.

[Nobody Special]

YES EXACTLY I WAS A TOWN COP ALL THIS TIME.

Nonconsecutive? (Still a couple pages behind. I hate you all.)

[Nobody Special]

So uh.
I have pretty compelling evidence against what ABR just said.

Let me know whether I need to share it or if we can just lynch him for telling an obvious lie.

I'd love to hear it.

Me, three.

[Nobody Special]

no one can buddy me without my permission.

Words.

They mean things. You can't change what they mean to suit you.

[Nobody Special]

Everyone, please. Answer me this.

Have you ever seen a setup with town powerroles where one PR was every-night and the other powerrole was split between even/odd?

Because we have even/odd doctors (well, two nonconsecutive doctors, very nearly the same thing), but both claimed cops are every-night.

Think about that for just a moment.

We can lynch either vikingfan or ABR. I don't care anymore. Ellie can be next.

[Nobody Special]

NobodySpecial, are you asking me something or implying something?

I'm telling you that words have a meaning. You can't change their meaning. Anyone can buddy you whether you like it or not.

[Nobody Special]

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE TIER

THERE ARE MULTIPLE KILLERS AS WE ALREADY KNOW

Who is Tier? I mean, who are you addressing here?

[Nobody Special]

two nonconsecutive doctors

wait, what?

Check my iso.

[Nobody Special]

NS, I meant that if the buddying felt wrong or like the person was trying to cop a feel I'd be Being Mean To Them. So if someone is buddying and I'm not saying anything its because I get why and its not scummy. Does that make sense?

Makes sense, but you should've said that in the first place.

[Nobody Special]

@NS: So what do you think now that ABR and viking have both claimed Non-Consec Cop?

I still think vf is lying scum and needs rope, and I think it's possible -- in fact probable -- that ABR really is cop.

[Nobody Special]

I still think vf is lying scum and needs rope, and I think it's possible -- in fact probable -- that ABR really is cop.

Would a cop really bullshit this much in general?

Yes, I believe ABR would.

[Nobody Special]

It's ... not really possible ABR is a cop, because he's not even really

pretending

to be a cop.

I think you need to think longer before you post.

[Nobody Special]

You're not the cop. If you are gambiting town, my role is evidence that VF is town and you should adjust accordingly.

Even longer, actually.

[Nobody Special]

Vote: NakedJogger

[Nobody Special]

Cheetory is Town.

Agreed.

[Nobody Special]

However, I'm calling out on TSO for this current statement.

I notice I have no scumreads. I need to get some.

Why do you need to state this?
Why are previous scum reads no longer scum reads?
Why are none a scumread?
Why are you not doing an effort?

When I first read 3673, I thought it very odd. Thank you for articulating.

[Nobody Special]

Shin, why do you interpret the list as a scumlist? I read it as an activity/lurker list.

[Nobody Special]

Ika can we get a vc

I am trying to pin down a motivation for this post.

I am not succeeding.

[Nobody Special]

I don't get why it's a problem to see the new countdown and how many are still alive. Again, why is this even an issue right now?

This is PRECISELY why I wonder about the request for a votecount. I am leaning really hard toward "scum trying to look active" but there are SO MANY OTHER WAYS to do that.

Thus, my dilemma.

[Nobody Special]

Shin, why do you interpret the list as a scumlist? I read it as an activity/lurker list.

Hello?

VOTE: Shinobi

I even spelled it properly!

[Nobody Special]

Does anyone know if NS always harps on useless details like this? I've never played with him before.

Yes, I do.

Just answer the damned question.

[Nobody Special]

I want NS dead.

Why?

[Nobody Special]

@NS: Did my answer give you anything or are you just going to continue to votepark on me for funsies?

I was not impressed by your answer. I'm going to keep an eye on you, and for now, my vote.

[Nobody Special]

TSO, you saw what I said, you commented on it, and you still want me dead?

You suck.

[Nobody Special]

Girls.

Girls!!

You're both pretty.

[Nobody Special]

Let's make it L-1.

unvote

Vote: FAQ2

[Nobody Special]

Prod dodge.

I doubt I've missed anything earthshattering.

[Nobody Special]

some of us are old and jaded

don't take it personally

Get off my lawn.

Whippersnapper.

[Nobody Special]

The Careful Reader (of my iso) will note that I have been posting every day (with rare exception) and on some days, indeed, multiple times. The Careful Reader will also note that I have been providing content and substance.

And you wonder why people are voting you.

[Nobody Special]

I don't understand the weird cult resistance to an NS lynch.

I'm highly revered.

[Nobody Special]

I may have missed a question directed at me.

Rather apathetic about this game at the moment.

[Nobody Special]

I am. I'm on the FAQ wagon.

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I understand.