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Not voting: Kitz, Shinobi, dragonspawn, SilverWolf, elusive, Goodmorning, Wake88, Aeronaut, T S O, FA_Q2, Ozgin

18 alive, 10 to lynch

(expired on 2015-03-12 00:00:00)

Mod notes: RAINBOWS!

[Wake1]

The tacit assumption that disagreeing with him meant you were somehow defending viking made me particularly annoyed, as did "indisputable."

Ellie defended vikingfan, not when she disagreed with me, but when she defended him.

Sorry, I realized during the night that I had mixed up my role pms with another game. I'm unfortunately a VT. My bad...

Some people don't like being VT in games, but end up being part of the Town anyways. I've had that feeling more than a few times in past Mafia games here. My perspective on being a VT is that you practically have the most amount of freedom to speak your mind as possible.

Do you think this sentiment of his deserves a scumread? I certainly don't. And I do wonder the motives of those who think otherwise.

I don't understand who's sentiment you're talking about. How is that related to what you quoted? Who's motives are you questioning?

Your sentiment, where you said "...I'm unfortunately a VT..." It's directly related if you read and absorb the post honestly. I question the motives of anyone else who think you should be scumread because you expressed some displeasure at being a Vanilla Townie.

[vikingfan]

The tacit assumption that disagreeing with him meant you were somehow defending viking made me particularly annoyed, as did "indisputable."

Ellie defended vikingfan, not when she disagreed with me, but when she defended him.

Sorry, I realized during the night that I had mixed up my role pms with another game. I'm unfortunately a VT. My bad...

Some people don't like being VT in games, but end up being part of the Town anyways. I've had that feeling more than a few times in past Mafia games here. My perspective on being a VT is that you practically have the most amount of freedom to speak your mind as possible.

Do you think this sentiment of his deserves a scumread? I certainly don't. And I do wonder the motives of those who think otherwise.

I don't understand who's sentiment you're talking about. How is that related to what you quoted? Who's motives are you questioning?

Your sentiment, where you said "...I'm unfortunately a VT..." It's directly related if you read and absorb the post honestly. I question the motives of anyone else who think you should be scumread because you expressed some displeasure at being a Vanilla Townie.

I'm not voting him because he expressed the displeasure at being a townie, I'm voting him because I think he's a scum who fakeclaimed and had to think of a way to cover himself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wake; were you referring to vf?

[Wake1]

Wake; were you referring to vf?

I'm referring to you, ABR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have a burning question for this town.

Let's pretend for a moment that we accept the premise that you're told when you're protected.

If scum intended to nightkill viking, as he claims, why did they also roleblock him?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anyway, I'm not buying the mechanic that vf claims. Nobody should.

[SilverWolf]

Wake; were you referring to vf?

I'm referring to you, ABR.

You know set-up. What do you think of vikingfan's claims today regarding what happened to him last night?

[Nobody Special]

But why would the scum role black and try to kill the same person? It doesn't make sense. Especially since there were two deaths. Last time I checked doctors dont die when they heal someone.

Surely you are aware that there could be two scum factions, yes? One shoots, one protects, same player. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

[Nobody Special]

@Mod: Please update firstpost to include current replacements. Thanks!

[Wake1]

Wake; were you referring to vf?

I'm referring to you, ABR.

You know set-up. What do you think of vikingfan's claims today regarding what happened to him last night?

...

Actually, what do you think of ABR ignoring my post and apparently pretending that I was referring to vikingfan or said "vf" when I clearly said "VT" and was referring to Albert?

I fairly certain he's not dumb, so I don't understand why he won't be directly honest towards me.

[Nobody Special]

goodmorning: can I get a quick recap on why you aren't interested in lynching viking?

[SilverWolf]

Wake; were you referring to vf?

I'm referring to you, ABR.

You know set-up. What do you think of vikingfan's claims today regarding what happened to him last night?

...

Actually, what do you think of ABR ignoring my post and apparently pretending that I was referring to vikingfan or said "vf" when I clearly said "VT" and was referring to Albert?

I fairly certain he's not dumb, so I don't understand why he won't be directly honest towards me.

Your help with vikingfan's claim would be very much appreciated. You are a mod. That's why I asked. It will help me figure out both vikingfan and ABR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Actually, what do you think of ABR ignoring my post and apparently pretending that I was referring to vikingfan or said "vf" when I clearly said "VT" and was referring to Albert?

I fairly certain he's not dumb, so I don't understand why he won't be directly honest towards me.

I still have no idea what you were saying. vikingfan chimed in to defend himself, so I thought you were referring to him by saying he was wrong to suspect me for saying unfortunately vt.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your help with vikingfan's claim would be very much appreciated. You are a mod. That's why I asked. It will help me figure out both vikingfan and ABR.

Wake is a newbe...ask NobodySpecial...

[ika]

@Mod: Please update firstpost to include current replacements. Thanks!

Working on it, I just need to finish the VC of whos not voting

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wake...I know you're talking ABOUT me, you quoted me. I'm asking who you're talking TO. Viking?

[SilverWolf]

Mod notes: RAINBOWS!

Thumbs Up!!

[dragonspawn]

I have a burning question for this town.

Let's pretend for a moment that we accept the premise that you're told when you're protected.

If scum intended to nightkill viking, as he claims, why did they also roleblock him?

it's precisely this that makes his claim unlikely.

not only that to believe his claim we have to either accept three parties attacking one another last night or the idea that we have a doctor that gets killed in place or the target. I've never heard or a doc like that.

[Wake1]

Wake...I know you're talking ABOUT me, you quoted me. I'm asking who you're talking TO. Viking?

I'm talking to you.

Normally, when you quote someone and make a post, it's assumed a conversation with the person is being initiated.

If you need help with forming new neural paths, or working on your communication skills, I know of a good speech therapist or two,

[SilverWolf]

vk's claim:

-requires 3 kill attempts last night
-required that someone tried to kill him and someone else tried to RB him
-requires he was told if he was protected
-required he was told that someone tried to kill him.

@Nobody Special/Wake or anyone who has modded Large Normals

Is this a possibility at all?

[Wake1]

Wake; were you referring to vf?

I'm referring to you, ABR.

You know set-up. What do you think of vikingfan's claims today regarding what happened to him last night?

At this point I am unaware of most of the goings-ons with vikingfan.

The concept of Setup I am aware, but not this current game's one.

I feel you would like me to focus on VF and I may want to in the future, but at this point I am a bit puzzled by ABR's reactions, so if you would please forgive me, I would rather better understand the meaning behind his apparent misunderstandings.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wake, I don't understand what you're saying. If it's important, tell me again. Who are you talking about when you say "anyone else".

I question the motives of anyone else who think you should be scumread

Who is anyone else?

[Wake1]

Wake, I don't understand what you're saying. If it's important, tell me again. Who are you talking about when you say "anyone else".

I question the motives of anyone else who think you should be scumread

Who is anyone else?

ANyone else in general.

I glanced through some of the latest pages and someone mentioned it was scummy that you were apparently displeased at being a Vanilla Townie. At this very exact moment I don't recall the person's name, but I could look through those pages again, though I don't particularly want to because of AACBIS examination dates.

[dragonspawn]

But why would the scum role black and try to kill the same person? It doesn't make sense. Especially since there were two deaths. Last time I checked doctors dont die when they heal someone.

Surely you are aware that there could be two scum factions, yes? One shoots, one protects, same player. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

unlikely. Look at the role for pk. He is just mafia. Not red or blue mafia or some other team designation. Just mafia. So unless we have werewolves floating around it seems unlikely. The second shot is more likely and sk or vigilante.

I also want to note that both the role blocker and doc were both non consecutive. Viking didn't claim any such modification for his cop role. Do you think it's likely we get a plain cop by that the other roles are nonconsecutive?