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so far you post style is fine...at least you break up the points and i can take it in parts...if I want to break up something M says (for quotes)..I am going to have to reread through the bullshit to refind what I want..ZazieR wrote:
But Mastin is absent for a few pages. That''s what was meant. In those pages, I''m the one with the ''irritating'' poststyle >.<curiouskarmadog wrote:jesus, I thought you said it gets better...it is getting to the point that I can just read mastin's posts, because he comments on every fucking line....on page 9ishNO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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this read is unbearable..
Mastin is spouting too much...I hate the term "wall of text" but I can see this as a pro town move on his part...not finishing the read, I would vote him...but I dont know what has been said the last 5 pages or so...my brain is fucking hurting..
hoping I will catch the last 5 tomorrow.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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OMG...I cant fucking take it anymore...I have replaced into 20+ games and this was the worst and longest read by leaps and bounds.
vote mastin.
Even after everyone has suggested that his play his anti-town..he continues. Other players post are lost...points are lost...I spent minutes fact checking then rescanning mastin's post to find the orginal bit I was checking....doing that 10-20 times per post I spent an hour...fuck even trying to quote something..more time spent finding what you want, and eliminating the fat. Why bother. This has to be a scum tactic....if not, I will never play in a game with you again...
you know what...I dont think I will either way.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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ckool5000 wrote:Sorry Mastin, but you and vp are making this game a headache. Plus, to me, vp wins the debate.
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vote: Mastinckool5000 wrote:unvote
I believe Mastin to some extent.
(P.S. I got back, and now it's late at night. I'll get some good sleep and see if I can re-read with a clear head.)
interesting how a claim and some "breadcrumbs" can stop a wagon. everyone was so hell bent on lynching mastin, but he says he is a RB (which i find is a easy mafia claim to claim)...also everyone seems to overlook the fact that he could have easily planned that claim well before the day started. Hell Kublai's interaction with him might have helped him craft that claim....not buying and I think the claim and his explanation of it is shaky at best....ckool5000 wrote:Hmmm... I'm not sure if I want to vote for Kublai, VP, or MafiaMann...
what I do find more interesting...are how quickly people jump without any explanation, to the next new thing. Look at the above quoted...
ckool, something about your last 3 posts are bothering me...in a sentence or two, I want to hear why you are considering Kub, , VP, or MM....I also want to hear why you believe Mastin's claim and are completely not considering that it is a pre thought out fake claim.
that being said...the information pouring out of this bandwagon to the next is great and I think will be usefull.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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VP Baltar wrote: It'd be essentially wasting a lynch because the scum now want him dead as bad as we do. May as well let them do the the work, or maybe he'll be able to block a kill and bring at least some semblance of truth to his claim.
ummm am I missing something? why would scum want him dead, if he is scum fake claiming?...given this particular line on conversation now...if he lives till tomorrow, how long do we let that go? Scummy is scummy.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I like absolutely nothing about this post.Mufasa wrote:okay haha I've looked through this game, and we are moving at a snails pace, never have I ever had to go all the way till a deadline to get a lynch. I have to say Mastins breadcrumming is good, but I just can't count him out yet. I'd get rid of him for just posting page long posts, haha if I could. I don't think Mafia will take care of mastin during the night either. I really think we should lynch him sooner than later, but I like the case on Mafiamann as well.
1.) is looked skimmed or read?
2.) What is a fast game in your opinion?
3.) Why do you think Mastin's breadcrumb is good? please provide an example of a bad one?
4.) please describe the case against MM.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Mufasa wrote: I have to say Mastins breadcrumming is good, but I just can't count him out yet.Mufasa wrote:
He gave us a good useage of subtle hints rather he planned this for a later fake claim who knows, but I dont like it.
yep, that is what I sound...you are just spouting out what you think people want to hear....opinions change as light pressure is added. Not providing content, but bandwagoning and agreeing all the way.Mufasa wrote:
I don't like his bread crumbing becasue I think he used it as support for his fake claim.
unvote, vote Mufasa..
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if anyone has played with me..they know I hate the term "to be honest"....up until recently I thought it was a scum tell....rofl I guess proved me wrong months ago...ckool5000 wrote:...Unlike me, of course.
Kublai- For reasons already stated before, thank you.curiouskarmadog wrote:in a sentence or two, I want to hear why you are considering Kub, , VP, or MM....I also want to hear why you believe Mastin's claim and are completely not considering that it is a pre thought out fake claim.
VP- Something just doesn't seem right about his posts to Mastin, and it seems like he's purposefully leaving out important info... Like the one's that Mastin bolds and increases in size.
MM- Um... To be honest I don't know. For some reason there's a bandwagon... And it all sounded like he was scummy...
Are you saying that you don't think that these three are scummy at all? Please explain.
Mastin- Meh. I believe his claim to some extent, but am willing to lynch him. It does seem like at least a somewhat realistic claim though...
Your post sounded kind of... hostile, karmadog...
at any rate, what part of my question seemed hostile? Also, so what?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I have been down this EXACT same road with him before (exept maybe he posted more). I attacked him for spouting that "X is obv town"....I felt that it was scum motivated...I was wrong...his play is scummy to be sure, but for him, it is a null tell.Hayker wrote:Hokay so
Of all the people.I feel most comfterable lynching my original suspect, Rofl. I still say that making the assumption that a player is mafia or town with the first page of the game, and be 100% sure about it, is rather scummy. He then assumed I was scum directly after, only for suspecting him. This comes off to me, as somewhat OMGUS. He now rarely posts and simply calls is apathy, but why not merely replace then? He's still in the game, but his posts are few and far inbetween usually. Even then, he just keeps the same suspisions and adds little discussion. I know I haven't added much, but I have tried what I can. Perhaps I should kick it up a notch though.
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I am commenting on the bit about him saying "x is town"...and to a certian extent the low content posts. I will have to go back and find if he jumped around a lot on bandwagon...something tells me he did though. I am quite bitter about this game, because he bumped heads so much and I got lycnhed for it.Kmd4390 wrote:
He has not contributed a thing and has set himself up to jump any easy wagon he chooses. How is that a null tell?curiouskarmadog wrote: I have been down this EXACT same road with him before (exept maybe he posted more). I attacked him for spouting that "X is obv town"....I felt that it was scum motivated...I was wrong...his play is scummy to be sure, but for him, it is a null tell.
thought I had him pegged for sure...
what I find funny is that there are about 2-3 other people doing the exact same thing (or worse)..but they are not getting shit. Why is that?
Also, KMD..you thoughts on bandwagons or the sake of bandwagons on day 1?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Welcome Xyl…look forward to your input and thoughts on the enormous read.
QTF, I am not sure why this was discussed yesterday….roflcopter wrote:oh look, someone who was mindlessly pushing a khan wagon flipped scum. i am in no way surprised. now can we stop all discussion of ever lynching khan, finally?
interesting comment. I am not sure how you are making this judgment. There are thousands of possibilities as to why someone might do something. To right someone off just because of what you have stated thus far seems off.Faraday wrote:
I don't think Ckool is mafia with Zazie, she said he was town, but didn't seem too concerned about him getting lynched, perhaps wanting to make herself look good if he came up town? Also note it was her "gut" that told her ckool was town, this leaves loads of wiggle room to switch her opinions.
Got to reread given the night information…..but I am leaning ckool….getting a strong newbiescum vibe off him.Xylthixlm wrote:Hello. Who's scum?
arent you voting with fallen?Lowell wrote:hayker or fallen are both fine with me. If the people have spoken one way, who am I to argue? If anyone's lazy here, it's you.
Ok rereading…or at least rereading certain people..I don’t think I can bare to reread the whole game…or anything close to that.
Also mod, going to be on vacation 06/11 until 06/19.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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what is this previous experience?Faraday wrote:
Well yeh, there are loads of posibillites as to why someone would do anything. But I thought what I suggested was most likely, given the way it played out. I mean there are loads of posibillites as to why people do everything.ckd wrote:t;]
interesting comment. I am not sure how you are making this judgment. There are thousands of possibilities as to why someone might do something. To right someone off just because of what you have stated thus far seems off.Faraday wrote:
I don't think Ckool is mafia with Zazie, she said he was town, but didn't seem too concerned about him getting lynched, perhaps wanting to make herself look good if he came up town? Also note it was her "gut" that told her ckool was town, this leaves loads of wiggle room to switch her opinions.
I'm not writing him off, just because of this either, I thought Ckool seemed town based on my previous experience of playing with him.
Also weekend, so I'll have little time to post.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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VP Baltar wrote:Also, I'm really uncomfortable with Kise lurking his ass off in this game. Every game I have ever played with him in he has been quite verbose, but he hasn't said anything here since July 3. He also just signed up for another game.
My lynch list currently reads:
ckool
Mastin
Kise
LOL...well, what does this post say about VP?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Updating from page 48 (before Mastin’s lynch). Some of this is a reread some is not. Typing as a read, but knowing Mastin’s alignment now obviously is going to taint opinions.
Even reading ckool knowing he was the vig I am getting a scum vibe off him. Read (skimmed) him again after VP’s post (1203). Don’t know if that is his play style or was by design…but not important now.
At this point in the reread (1205).
Votes swell on ckool SC (1206) KK (1220) Hay (1223) Xyl (1228) this doesn’t mean much I guess, because I thought that ckool was scummy yet, but over rofl’s point (1164) about mastin I find it strange. I also find it sort of hard to swallow that people are now saying today that rofl was bussing a partner (over an opposing team?). Will get to that again in the reread….but rofl’s point single handedly swayed my vote back on Mastin. With a partner already down, why would rofl bus another?iamausername wrote:-=Vote Count #33=-
Mastin (4) - roflcopter, Xylthixlm, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog
roflcopter (3) - Hayker, Kmd4390, molestargazer
VP Baltar (2) - Mastin, Namttam
ckool5000 (2) - VP Baltar, Wickedestjr
Hayker (1) - Lowell
Not Voting (5) - Achilles, ckool5000, Empking's Alt, Faraday, SerialClergyman
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another side note:
he never does. he is in a hundred games and he only pays attention to those that he has a decent role. he is a horrid player and that is why I NEVER play with him. the only reason I replaced into this game is because I owed the mod. a karma thing.Kublai Khan wrote:I'm really doubting that Empking's Alt is even reading this game.
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Ugh, I hate rofl’s vote of ckool (1237). Appeal of emotion vote over your previously stated point of mastin? I was on your side until this…..though I still doubt you are buddied with Mastin…unless something else happens later.
..so ckool claims, votes fall off.
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ugh. Don’t like this post. If you are town, how is this protown to promote yourself for a vigging? Also if you really believed you were going to be lynched anyway, why assume that Mastin will be lynched today over you?roflcopter wrote:unvote, vote: mastin
ckool: if mastin flips scum you should kill kmd tonight, if he flips town you should kill me
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Whoa what? This is worse that rofl’s post!?.......you next post just saved me typing out a paragraph.SerialClergyman wrote:I think the thought of auto-vigging two people who agree ot be auto-vigged is probably not in the best interest of the town, given the only people who agree ot that are likely to be town.
What if we had ckool target mastin, and mastin roleblock him? That'd go some way to working out if anyone was lying.
Why? And why are you so quick to right him off?Kmd4390 wrote:
He came up with a plan and quickly realized it was bad. I don't think he'd have done that the way he did as scum.ckool5000 wrote:
Why's that?Kmd4390 wrote:SerialClergyman is town. Bad idea, but he's town.
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Why this vote over Mastin at this point (1283)Wickedestjr wrote:I believe that ckool is the vig.Unvote: ckool
Empking and Zaz were both voting KK the whole game. Zaz turned out scum, so;
Vote: Empking's Alt
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I like faraday’s point about Hay’s vote of Ckool (1289)
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Ok that is just poor play now. Why is KMD and yourself out at this point? (1304)roflcopter wrote:empking's alt is a good person to vig if ckool lives to vig again tomorrow
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Today starts post 1339.
Hay’s post (1349) that rofl and Mastin are scum partners is just ridiculous. I could see him (rofl) being Cer Mafia, but the fact that doesn’t seem to factor in your vote screams Vermillion.
Scummiest post today.
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Qftroflcopter wrote:btw, now that we've had members of both scumteams trying their hardest to get khan lynched, can we finally agree that the guy is town and stop even entertaining the notion that we'll ever lynch him, ever? kthx
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I approve the hayker wagon.
Not understanding KMD’s reversal on rofl or why he thinks Hay is town.
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What a strange question? Why SC? Why 5? This sort of seems like a post designed to look like someone is scum hunting but is not.Wickedestjr wrote:@SerialClergyman - Who are you top five suspects?
bullshit meter is going off. Why did you care about SC's case when there are tons of other stuff going on right now?Wickedestjr wrote:
I was wondering if you had abandoned your Achilles case.SerialClergyman wrote:
Why do you ask, Wicked?
What are your current thoughts on rofl? Hay? KMD? If he didn’t mention Achilles..what would that have told you?
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sorry this post is so long...condensing 10+ pages into one post.
Vote coming, but would like answers for questions, posed to those in this post.
additional question KMD, anything that helped your gut read on Hay?
also Mod, has Achilles picked up his prod?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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"Today starts post 1339.
Hay’s post (1349) that rofl and Mastin are scum partners is just ridiculous. I could see him (rofl) being Cer Mafia, but the fact that doesn’t seem to factor in your vote screams Vermillion.
Scummiest post today."
I think this was a scum slip of logic.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I am doubting the claim.Xylthixlm wrote:Muhhhhhh.
We're supposed to force a partner claim here, I think.
Especially with the earlier neighbour claim. that being said, it would be incredibly stupid for scum to fake claim that after a neighbour claim. of course he just admitted not having much contact with masons.
so who is your partner? do you know their alignment?
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well to two people that I think are the scummiest in the game are claiming mason....I still find it hard to believe that I am that far off on two people. but rofl is right...it is suicide to fakeclaim mason at this point.
not sure that I agree with rofl that xyl is scummy though, the only scummy thing I have seen Xyl do it follow/buddy up with rofl. going to read again.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I hopped on to what?Hayker wrote:I'd also like to point out that you rapidly changed from lowell to me very fast. I think you just had a better idea. Not to mention with CKD hopping on like that.
I have said since your claim I do not believe it....
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What makes you say that? The other neighbours were town, why would your partner be scum?molestargazer wrote:
The other neighbour may be scum. Which means they probably won't claim just to drop me in the soup.SerialClergyman wrote:In short, about the claims - I think it's possible we have 2x neighbors and 1x masons but I suspect one of the neighbors to have scum in the pair. If we get a claim from the remaining neighbor - that doesn't help scum, but it will confirm there being 2 sets and we can then have a look and see if one of the remaining neighbors look particularly scummy.
I would like to know who your partner is.....if your partner denies being your partner, then we nail him tomorrow...there is no reason for your partner (at this point in the game) not to back up your claim.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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see post 1592. I didnt see his case until he posted that.Xylthixlm wrote:July 20
July 21curiouskarmadog wrote:not sure that I agree with rofl that xyl is scummy though, the only scummy thing I have seen Xyl do it follow/buddy up with rofl. going to read again.curiouskarmadog wrote:vote xyl, rofl was right about mastin
I would have glady hung Hay or Wicked....They are both 50x scummier than you are....as they are claiming mason however (suicide claim as scum), you are next on deck...
though i dont know if I believe Nat's claim......and I am still feeling out Spy and Lowell (due to recent activity)....vote subject to change.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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why does that make Xyl scum? is he the only one here that has done that?Namttam wrote:
Anyone on the fence between myself and Xyl, check out his voting record. Xyl has been hesitant to make any sort of case when voting. (Easiest way is to sort for vote in iso and look for the bold.) Voted for Hayker, Mastin, ckool, Mastin, Wickedestjr, Lowell and me.
unvotefor now.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE