SpyreX wrote:I'm seeing the AHAH! but I'm not seeing the conclusion.
What scum scenario are you looking at CKD?
The ONLY one that would make sense as a scum move would be Lowell / Xyl as partners - but even then why in the hell would you start a bus and then jump off of it in a cloud of smoke?
It is all WIFOM, who knows why scum do what they do. If they are partners, his jumping off HAS stopped the wagon(but I think that is unlikely). I believe that Xyl either thinks or knows Lowell is scum, what I cant figure out is why he jumped off the wagon. I think that Xyl is Ver and Lowell is Cer….there are a lot of semi-confirmed roles still floating around and I think it occurred to Xyl that the other mafia group is needed for Ver to attempt to win this. I think all Xyl knows is that Lowell is not scum with him. IF Lowell is town, Xyl looks good for jumping off. IF Lowell is Cer, then XylVer wont be faulted. Why not jump off? Get the ball rolling the start attacking someone else. If the Lowell wagons goes bad for us, he is not to fault because he jumped off, maybe even earning himself some town creds. I don’t think they are partners together, given his actions, but who knows…again the WIFOM goes round and round.
Xyl’s interaction and reaction to my questions are bizarre and I do feel he is back pedaling. His suspicions are vague and it is extremely hard to pin him to anything for he wiggles out.
All that being said, there is still some doubt that Xyl is scum, thus why my vote is still on Lowell. I think a ton of information (and I believe will help us) can be obtained from Lowell’s lynch. If Lowell flips Ver, I think it might clear Xyl in a backwards way. I cant see XylVer jumping off a Lowellver wagon that way. If lowell flips Cer, we eliminate a killing group tonight. Anyone who pushes not trying to lynch Cer today in hopes of a crosskill, is pushing a fucking huge pile of shit.
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Hey Xyl don’t yell at people for not meta-ing if you are not going to do it, any reason you are not checking up on my games like you said you were? Again, you are trying to discredit me by pushing lies, but you never really checked did you?
From Mafia 86, 3rd game down on my wiki page (really easy to find)…I was town…
67th post
“LOL....no i caught you in a lie because you were scared to answer a question....now you are trying to backtrack....”
70th post
“Emp did not contradict himself, he avoided a question, lied, back tracked, and then insulted...immature scum getting caught, nothing more.”
75th post
“given his lie, avoided questions, and backtrack...his avoidance of the BA case and bullshit attack on me, I am sure he is scum.”
There is more, do you want to see?
Xylthixlm wrote:Ckd, NO I was not saying he must be vermillion. I was saying that I don't think he's as likely to be cerulean therefore he's less likely to be scum AT ALL. This is plain as day. YOU are adding the assumption that I think Lowell is some sort of scum despite it being DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED BY THE POST.
That is the problem with you, i dont know what you are saying. lets clear if up then. You are being very vague and I want a straight answer you can not back out of.
When did you think Lowell was scum?
When did you stop thinking Lowell is scum and why?
What brand (ver or Cer) did you think he was and when.
please try to avoid terms like "more likely"..I want a concrete answer today.
also, since we had this interaction, can you please post some updated %s, because you want us to believe you think they are helpful, I for one am curious how they have changed now.
