Mafia 96 - Murder in Emerald City (Game Over!)

[Wickedestjr]

As for Lowell, I don't think him saying I am Mufasa's Alt is a breadcrumb.

noted, what do you think it meant then?


also Lowell's lack of claim is bullshit.

I thought it was simply a joke.

[Xylthixlm]

As for Lowell, I don't think him saying I am Mufasa's Alt is a breadcrumb.

noted, what do you think it meant then?


also Lowell's lack of claim is bullshit.

I thought it was simply a joke.

Jokes are great places to hide breadcrumbs. After all, the point of a breadcrumb is that it should only be obvious if you know what you're looking for.

[VP Baltar]

*iz ded*

[VP Baltar]

*iz ded*

[Wickedestjr]

As for Lowell, I don't think him saying I am Mufasa's Alt is a breadcrumb.

noted, what do you think it meant then?


also Lowell's lack of claim is bullshit.

I thought it was simply a joke.

Jokes are great places to hide breadcrumbs. After all, the point of a breadcrumb is that it should only be obvious if you know what you're looking for.

Maybe, but I'm still not sure about it. Care to reply to post 1918?

[Xylthixlm]

Maybe Not Town

Kublai Khan

I don't have a confident town read on Kublai, but based on his claim I think he's probably town.

Umm... Contradiction?

I fail to see any contradiction between "maybe not town" and "probably town". "Maybe not town" means exactly what it says.

[Wickedestjr]

How is "maybe not town" the equivalent of "probably town". They are completely different.

[Xylthixlm]

They're not equivalent, but they're not exclusive either. It means I think he's probably town but maybe not.

[Xylthixlm]

Given the question "do you think Kublai Khan is more likely to be town or scum" I would say he is probably town.

Given the question "do you think Kublai Khan is definitely town or maybe not town" I would say he is maybe not town.

I'm not sure how this is unclear.

[SerialClergyman]

Well, possibly because you rank spyrex and kmd in the 'certainly' town category. So that means you think they are more likely to be town than kk, which is odd in and of itself, but also that you can't even say maybe to the question of whether they are scum or not.

[Xylthixlm]

Well, possibly because you rank spyrex and kmd in the 'certainly' town category. So that means you think they are more likely to be town than kk, which is odd in and of itself, but also that you can't even say maybe to the question of whether they are scum or not.

I'm fairly confident that SpyreX and Kmd are town. I'm not confident that Kublai is town. Why is this odd?

[SerialClergyman]

Your rankings we can disagree on, but youre playing a pretty silly game with semantics. You thnk kk is probaby town, not definitely. Sure. But then you say that Kmd and spy, while being in the definitely towncategory are people you are fairly confident of.

If the top group isn't definite, why not put kk up there if you think he's probably town?

[Wickedestjr]

I find it interesting that Xyl thinks Kmd and SpyreX are certainly town, because the three people I'm most suspicious of just happen to be Xyl, SpyreX, and Kmd.

[curiouskarmadog]

why exactly is Lowell not lynched yet?

[Faraday]

Just for reference because I know cheating is for quitters:


While playing, hit ENTER, then type in the code: HOW DO YOU TURN THIS ON


They have machine guns and move super fast. Didn't expect that, did ya Ghengis Khan.

Vote Lowell

; claim isn't gonna change my mind. He had his chance but stalled.

That's L-1.

[SerialClergyman]

Well, if people aren't keen to lynch Lowell until he speaks (overly cautious, especially because I don't know what he could say that he hasn't said already) perhaps we could genuinely discuss other possibilities and why. I think the case on Xyl remains relatively strong, and have been picking at things in his posts that irk me all day. I have trouble reading Spyrex because Achilles missed a lot of the big events in the game due to lurking and Spy hasn't been overly prolific in his cases. I feel the masons are almost certainly town, KK is almost certainly town, I think ckd is probably town. Faraday has been largely irrelevent to the game so far, I think the largest case he pushed was on Hayker which died after the mason claim. KMD has voted me because of his vote count analysis, which is fine but leaves me with nothing to say about it, really. He also seems uninterested in convincing anyone else about his apparant belief in my scumminess which seems to me to be either lazy or suspicious.

I possibly left someone out but I'm trying to give a general overview of my thoughts of the group at the moment. I agree with ckd in that it's odd that people seem almost resigned to a Lowell lynch but there's so few votes and so little fire. Perhaps that's the point of him not claiming and not answering the case, to dull the momentum of the wagon, but after looking at his breadcrumb again (alleged breadcrumb) it's still damning to me, especially since that neighbor had the chance to claim and didn't.

I think perhaps those who aren't voting Lowell, or at least aren't voting anyone, could start explaining why their votes are where they are and perhaps we can do something worthwhile for the next 5 or 6 days and try to investigate other leads, if the group doesn't have the guts to vote him?

[SerialClergyman]

I had a brief look to see who favoured lynching Xyl yesterday, given those same people have apparantly decided he's not scummy at all today (with the exception of Wickedestjr, who did vote him at the start of the day)

Xyl's wagon when 5 people were on it -

rofl, Lowell, CKD, Namttam and Wicked.

rofl town, namttam town, wicked town, that leaves CKD and Lowell.

After some time passes, Nam ends up at 6 votes and the wagon on Xyl shortens to rofl, Lowell and Wickedestjr.

Finally, Lowell hops off and hammers Namttam.

So unfortunately, my analysis hasn't really brought up much in the way of other suspects, the main person it points to is Lowell again.

One thing that the analysis does reveal though is that Faraday did indeed only push a case against Hayker. After the mason claim, he unvoted and never revoted on anyone else, which is at the least irrelevant as I said above and at the most a typical scummy fence-sit.

[Xylthixlm]

Your rankings we can disagree on, but youre playing a pretty silly game with semantics. You thnk kk is probaby town, not definitely. Sure. But then you say that Kmd and spy, while being in the definitely towncategory are people you are fairly confident of.

If the top group isn't definite, why not put kk up there if you think he's probably town?

I'm not playing silly games with semantics, I am trying to express a very real distinction in the confidence of my reads. It's sort of like the difference between "preponderance of the evidence" and "beyond a reasonable doubt".

[Xylthixlm]

I find it interesting that Xyl thinks Kmd and SpyreX are certainly town, because the three people I'm most suspicious of just happen to be Xyl, SpyreX, and Kmd.

I reserve the right to act smug after the game when you turn out to be totally wrong.

[iamausername]

-=Vote Count #54=-

Lowell (5) - Xylthixlm, curiouskarmadog, SerialClergyman, SpyreX, Faraday
SpyreX (1) - Wickedestjr
SerialClergyman (1) - Kmd4390

Not Voting (3) - Hayker, Kublai Khan, Lowell

6 to lynch.

[SpyreX]

May I also reserve smugness points? That'd be sweeeet.

As for lowell. It goes without saying that this better be good. Real good.

And the masons think I'm scummy because one of the mafia groups started making "better" kills?

And SC thinks I'm scummy because I'm not overly prolific.... but ckd is town?

Questions within questions. Sandwiches for all.

[Kmd4390]

Serial's logic against Xyl is crap. Xyl's stance seems perfectly clear to me.

If Lowell doesn't claim in his next post, I'm willing to hammer.

[Hayker]

[quote="SpyreX"]

And the masons think I'm scummy because one of the mafia groups started making "better" kills?
quote]

I'd like to say that I am a different person than wicked. I'm on a neutral leaning scum read for you right now, but for me that's not enough when I am very sure that lowell is mafia.

Lowell needs to explain

1)His statement of being empking's alt.

2)Why his role was worth making us wait until Sunday to find out.

[Lowell]

Okay let's just get on with it.

I'm vanilla, I have nothing to do with mufasa. My comment was a joke regarding my (and his) non-explanatory vote posts.

I feel like I have two kinds of games: those I have a handle on (and am active) and those I don't (and tend to lurk). I doubt it's much of a scum/towntell either way, but I can see why the latter looks scummier.

Still, with 78 pages it's a bit depressing that this is what we're looking at to lynch folks. I'll post some thoughts in the next few minutes if I can hold internet connection for that long, otherwise I'll be back Sunday to answer whatever needs answering.

[Lowell]

vote spy

This is as good as any. I briefly looked over the posts since my last recap, and his running narration just looks forced, and poor.