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oh is this going to be one ofthosegames
there is something missing from this post can you spot itIn post 70, Staeg wrote:47-49 is burnworthy stuffKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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and yetIn post 80, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I'm willing to lynch anyone who claims post restriction.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Ok this is scum because ____________________________________________________________ .In post 20, Nahdia wrote:I think Dunnstral may be for highlighting what he thought was a soft in thread. Rather than, you know, taking it back to the scumthread and parsing what it may actually allude to.
I mean, he coulda done both, but my inclination is to think someone wouldn't bring up the same topic in two places. Maybe. I dunno. Maybe not.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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or explaining why she townread a post?In post 92, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Soft whiteknighting
I'll admit I assume daychat nowadays. I didn't read that godawful blue mess so I dunno if it says anything about that specifically.assuming daychat
ok now you're just assigning motivationspicking contrarian view so it look original and townie
have you met nahdiasuper wishy wash.
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Not really seeing an issue with SpyreX tho.In post 95, pirate mollie wrote:zito cld you pretty plz with sugar on top help out with spyrella
I see what you are seeing with sad, at least I think I do but you shld also note that sad was also fosing spyrella while doing nothing to further his read on him in lieu of this his push on nahdia
I love this post so much.In post 97, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Why do you have to get sarcastic and defensive about it if it was of no concern to you?
okIn post 135, SpyreX wrote:Zito I'm calling a blood vow chit get over here
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Why don't you talk to me about zito instead.
I heard he's a fine upstanding fellow that helps grannies cross the street.
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Clearly we need infinity votes to lynch this guy.In post 160, camntsuki wrote:In post 31, drealmerz7 wrote:do you mean you are thinking the mod might lie/this could be bastard to degrees?
.In post 150, Fate wrote:Infinity 324 (0): SpyreX, Dunnstral, Papa Zito, camntsukiKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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sameIn post 174, camntsuki wrote:We;re fine with a RC V/LA for 3 days if it means that he gets to stay in.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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broIn post 147, Papa Zito wrote:Why don't you talk to me about zito instead.
I heard he's a fine upstanding fellow that helps grannies cross the street.
What've YOU heard?
feed my ego
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@Spy:What's your take on this dreamer fellow? PS I'm not feeling the Infinity thing tbh.
Can you go into some more detail here. What did you like about that post in particular? What haven't you liked about SpyreX's response in particular?In post 253, RedCoyote wrote:I read back over 91 again, and I still think that sounds like a well constructed post. It lays out why Spyrex is a good wagon, and Spy's defense thus far has been shaky at best.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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oh jfc this is gonna confuse me all game
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I'm still not sure what you disliked about this response. SpyreX is saying he's seen townies fake PRs before, let's not jump to conclusions. Which seems perfectly reasonable to me. What issue do you have with it?In post 343, RedCoyote wrote:I did not like Spy's response to SAD (90). It stuck out to me because it was something as academic as a discussion over whether a post restriction is liable to be faked or not.
Where does he imply this?It's kind of been downhill from here. Spy seems fixated on camn's vote (though, to be fair, camn is tunneling very strongly) and goes further to imply that there's nothing else worth talking about.
Mollie's post (minus meta) references that same SAD post so ??He has no good offense, and mollie called him out on this in 91, too.
P.S. I had no idea about this bookmark trick you're doing this is gr8KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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is this game weird for anyone else? It feels like it's just flying in all directions.
I'm in love with Brofist tho hell yes.
I quoted this when it happened but then you explained it and while it seems awfully strange that she's your only REAL scumread I think I get why you're saying that so yeah carry on.
404 Interaction Not FoundIn post 354, SpyreX wrote:Look at the camn interaction on the last couple pages.
help me out
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Good GollyIn post 444, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
HolyIn post 439, Papa Zito wrote:is this game weird for anyone else? It feels like it's just flying in all directions.
Moly
Miss Mollie
If you feel this way about nacho why the hell did you unvote him?In post 453, drealmerz7 wrote:I'ma go ahead and put it out there and tell you all what I really think, because, hey, I'm town and I tell the Truth in this Astral Plane:
I would think nacho would have mmmm....not as much respect I'll say, for those who would give him any sort of pass if they legit. think he's scum.
come at him
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sameIn post 522, Kagami wrote:I don't get it, Mollie o.oKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Hey dude what's up.In post 535, Infinity 324 wrote:Man this fucking game
If anyone is on I'd like to talk about something, anythingKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Not particularly, no. Anticipating your follow-up question: I tried to get SpyreX to explain the issue but he doesn't really seem able to do so. I'm here at his request but the lack of push makes me sadface.In post 543, Infinity 324 wrote:Hi how's it going
Do you still think I'm scum, if so why, if not who is
I don't like anything the hydra has done and I'm curious to see what mollie is up to.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I meanIn post 548, SpyreX wrote:Dude zito i dont know how else to push
The guy now has a hundred thousand posts in here. You've pointed to a mysterious camn interaction I can't find but is that really the only thing that pinged in all those words? Is there nothing more recent? Cuz tbh he looks like someone trying to solve the game.
To ensure clarity I'm not sadfacing because I suspect you're an evil space squid here but because I remember ye olden times when you'd grab a game by the throat and shake it into submission.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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You got me Kagami. I've never ignored a vote in my entire career. I'm a rabid dog when I see those four letters proceed my name. People flee in terror. The national guard is mobilized. Children duck and cover beneath their desks. Lo, the hour is nigh. Tremble in terror or something.
Why in all the seven hells would I be voting SpyreX right now.In post 553, pirate mollie wrote:then why are you not voting spyrella
Yes the VC is shit, I pointed that out and SAD had a cute little fit about it.
@SpyI'm gonna go review all those things tonight when I have some time to iso things. Clearly I need to be doing deepdives anyway because this gamestate is all kinds of wrong.
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Is mastin in this hydra?In post 616, camntsuki wrote:You are saying I lied about ISOing you?
That's really your argument?
Well..IdidISO you.. and I would have no reason as scum to AVOID ISOing you.
And your ISO is short and meaningless.
AND your argument is ridiculous, and so is your face.
That whole post you just quoted was me trying to drag you INTO this game.. and your whole reaction is you trying to AVOID getting dragged in... but you are anyway!
Furthermore- I wasn't even using any of that post to "push this same bullshit push". I wasn't voting you then, and no vote came with that post. You wanna know the truth?
I actually was going to ruthlessly wagonanyone you wanted... I just needed you to actually start pushing a wagon instead of laying around. Your so-called Infinity hate was kitten-hate smoldering all game.. and I was hoping you hadanykind of fresh look.
There WAS no push on you until you decided a 1v1 was the thing to do... which is gonna be hilarious when Kats wakes up and sees what I did here.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Don't quit your day job.In post 667, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I will be the official translator for all of Zito's posts.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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So I looked through camntsuki's iso and boy howdy.
I'll start here. 0 talk about nahdia prior to this, or after really, and yet.In post 394, camntsuki wrote:
Agree. Lets do it your way then.In post 387, pirate mollie wrote:now is the time to breathe life into it
UNVOTE:
VOTE: nahdia.
So nacho and dreamer are scum together, ok. (note: still voting Nahdia)In post 397, camntsuki wrote:also- anyone wanna take odds on nacho and dreamerz being scum together?
...or not? Why protest this vote if camntsuki thinks dreamerz is scum? (note: still voting Nahdia)In post 415, camntsuki wrote:(lets go the other way, though! dreamerz might be pretty confused about a great number of things... but he is right as rain about lurkernacho = scumnacho...)
Hell of a waffle after 397. (note: still voting Nahdia)In post 488, camntsuki wrote:Like... tell me about this dreamers guy- should I hate him?
This one is what made me do a deeper look. Why oh why oh why appeal to nacho here? That makes absolutely 0 sense coming from someone who thinks nacho is scum.In post 589, camntsuki wrote:Mollie- ISO Spyrex. Ignore your Katsuki-hate.. and ISO spyrex.
Nacho- you too.
Here he does it again. Also now SpyreX-Dunnstral are partners, along with Nacho-dreamer. And I guess Nahdia.In post 594, camntsuki wrote:And Mollie and Nacho.. ISO SPYREX! TELL ME YOU SEE WHAT I SEE!
Dunnstrall too.. except you are partners with him. But Get on his wagon again now that its gonna be real.
[/quote]In post 624, camntsuki wrote:actually..I'm going to bed.. but let's see how this plays out:
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Infinity!
Oh but don't forget Infinity too. There are many scum in this game. This is especially ????? after spending so much energy screaming for a SpyreX wagon.
There's no progression in any of this. It's all random and self-contradictory and if I hear "welp hydra" I swear to god I'll burn this thread down. The weird dance with Mollie and 296 are gravy.
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You know what one of my favorite tactics is? I love the part when people self-meta and then project that onto another player. I am no longer my own person, I am now only an avatar of Infinity 324, The Most Classic Of Cars.In post 800, Infinity 324 wrote:My lynch list remains the same except plus zito and minus camn. Zito did a classic scum thing by "suddenly realizing" a top wagon is scummy and then making a case, it's one of my favorite scum tactics
Not to mention SpyreX and I had a conversation about camntsuki before I did that read I promised oops whooooooosh
Let's also not even address the points made let's just do some happy handwaving magics about them instead. Where have I seen this before, hmm I dunno where I could've seen that recently welp I'm off to go build my bush hut l8r
In post 804, Dunnstral wrote:We have ~3.5 days left. Time to vote infinity.rofl
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You know what? You're right. In the face of your massive contributions to this thread, I am thoroughly ashamed. Fuck me for putting effort into a game when I could just cross my arms and lean back and criticize people. Clearly I had scum intentions with the effort I put into that post, intentions you have so thoroughly put to light with your incredible arguments. I am obviously not scumhunting here, I am not examining motivations behind that slot's votes, I'm not looking at inconsistencies and timing, I sure as hell aren't putting my thoughts out there instead of hiding in the shadows like I could be doing. I'm just trying to push a lynch through on a slot I'd never mentioned before then because who the fuck cares as long as it's not me.In post 807, Nahdia wrote:it was a silly way to say it but ngl the camn case from you did feel iffy to me as well.
You guys got me. You are all A+ scumhunters and I'm a 300 ELO drooling moron. Thanks for putting me in my place, well done.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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In post 829, Kagami wrote:Somehow I believed I would enjoy this playerlist.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I still need to read up but to answer the major question -
Yes and no. I had in my possession a tradable item called the "Talisman of Protection". I thought it just protected against nightkills but apparently it protected against kills of any type.
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No I read all that. Let me ask a better question.In post 1233, pirate mollie wrote:here, I enlarged the letters in case your eyes glazed over from reading my walls as they intend to do, I am sure.
Yesterday you voted me because I'm an avocado. But prior to that you said you didn't have a scum read on me. Today you expressed a town read despite my not having posted. This is what I mean by your read on me being all over the damn place. I'm speaking about the whole game, not just the current moment. Can you talk about that?
@Dunnstrall:Why didn't you hammer camntsuki yesterday?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I read it in my catchup, I'll have to dig it up again. Give me a bit.In post 1238, Dunnstral wrote:I don't think they ever reached l-1? If they did, can you link me to where
I didn't say anything at the start of the day because I knew there'd be questions and I wanted to be here to answer them.In post 1244, Dunnstral wrote:I'm questioning whether papa zito would make up that he recieved an item in order to get out of the perceived danger of the governor theory. It doesn't help that he says absolutely nothing about it to start the day off
Specifically, how can you "not know" that it stops lynches?
The item doesn't mention anything about lynches specifically. I made the assumption that it only worked on NKs.
I guess I took your avocado comment as a scumread. If that's not what that was then ok.In post 1240, pirate mollie wrote:^^^ I have newfound theory based off of pple's interactions in case any1 is interested.
I'd like to hear your theory because I'm operating completely in the dark.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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@Dunn:Here's the thing I read:In post 1004, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:P happy with either Zito and Nacho, obv prefer the former.
I'm also p sure camnhydra got to L-1 over the last 10 pages, so that was interesting.
I don't understand this question.In post 1248, pirate mollie wrote:@ zito- a cple of questions for you; you are showing no concern for getting lynched off of 6 votes as opposed to 7. why is that?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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??In post 1251, pirate mollie wrote:you were lynched at 6 votes. so I am wondering why you have not commented on that it doesn't appear to have to do with your role. I wld like to hear your comments on this now.
I wasn't lynched and there were 7 votes. I have no clue what you mean.
@Nacho:You've just posted 2 points of "you should have done this." Are you serious. Do you not realize how absolutely stupid that is. Let's play make believe for a moment and pretend I played to Nachomamma8 Approved Standards. You know what would've happened? Some other clownboy would've strolled along and whined that I didn't do ithisway. GTFO with that noise. I am not you and I don't play exactly how you play oh em gee that's terrible. Here have a list of additional things.
1. People were dabbling in the whole "Zito is scum but I'm not gonna bother with reasons cuz lol" for most of the day. If they weren't openly voting they were making dumb side comments about it. The wagon didn't just spring up on the 6th.
2. Clearly if my goal was to "lurk to victory" I would have done something when it was abundantly clear the town was going full derp mode and not actually let myself get lynched? Some victory?
3. What's the point of burning a game-changing item when I could've just shown back up.
4. I didn't post until I was here to elaborate because if I'd done it your way I'd have a bunch of other people frothing about not answering questions for however long I was away from the thread.
Nobody was capable of answering this. My wagon was clearly scum pushed and I'm currently trying to figure out who they were.In post 1055, SpyreX wrote:That said camn lolractions and infinity handwringing wont get it done but why on zito. Like three bullet items. Or semaphore. Or anything that isnt just look at his iso bro bro broKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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You stole my next question. :/In post 1262, Dunnstral wrote:Didn't see it when it happened; not sure if SAD was even correct on the l-1 thing
I don't know if I would have hammered them either
If your goal is to protect the orbs like some kind of Warrior of Light then why wouldn't you have hammered them if you'd realized?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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So I'm lying about holidays and being busy?In post 1265, Nachomamma8 wrote:OR AM I A REAL HUMAN BEING WITH REAL HUMAN BEING CONCERNS???
Do you think this post is a lie?
If my issue was I'm apathetic scum wanting to lurk why the fuck am I so active now? Why does it makes sense to burn my extremely useful item first?
Glad to hear real life never happens to you. Keep up the good work.IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE GONE FROM THE THREAD
YOU COULD HAVE SAID YOU WERE GOING TO BE GONE FROM THE THREAD
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Well now I'm confused.In post 1267, Dunnstral wrote:I wouldn't have hammered you either if I were more inclined to believe you were town at the time
What did you mean by this then?In post 1080, Dunnstral wrote:I should have maybe mentioned this yesterday, but you should probably treat l-2 as if it's l-1, and know who's going to be placing the hammer. It won't be easy taking fragments from scum.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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jfcIn post 1270, Nachomamma8 wrote:in your hypothetical scum position i could see myself feeling meh and knowing that i wasn't going to die and dialing it in as a result
I've already ranted about applying self meta to other peopleIN THIS FUCKING GAME
if you want to say I'm scum that's fine I don't care but at least base it on things I'VE ACTUALLY SAID OR DONE
mlem fucking mlemKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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Which things?In post 1400, Nahdia wrote:I like desperado they think good things that I agree with
I'll be doing a bunch of reading at lunch yayKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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In post 1409, drealmerz7 wrote:(kagami aside who is totally fine and obvitown.)
how did you manage this in the space of a single postI think Nacho is scum, I think dunn is scum, they might be scum together or it might be multiball is more likely by the look of the associations going on. Dunn+Infinity+? Nacho+Kagami+?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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Just to be clear, the talisman was a one-shot passive. I'm not protected by it anymore.In post 1404, Kagami wrote:not the least of which is that regardless of alignment, he's getting to endgame, which I'm not crazy about. I think he gets a pass because the claimed power may or may not fit into the setup depending on how other things go.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.